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| 04:55 | saa | GM |
| 04:55 | Our acquisitions is throwing error while receiving and adding item and here is log | |
| 04:55 | [Wed Sep 28 10:11:52.496940 2022] [cgi:error] [pid 19438] [client 172.16.2.37:31232] AH01215: Use of uninitialized value $origquantityrec in numeric gt (>) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/finishreceive.pl line 80.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/finishreceive.pl, referer: http://kohaadmin.ncl.res.in/cg[…]575&invoiceid=257 [Wed Sep 28 10:11:52.542073 2022] [cgi:error] [pid 19438] [client 172.16.2.37:3 | |
| 04:56 | AH01215: Use of uninitialized value $origquantityrec in numeric gt (>) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/finishreceive.pl line 80.: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/finishreceive.pl, referer: http://kohaadmin.ncl.res.in/cg[…]575&invoiceid=257 [Wed Sep 28 10:11:52.542073 2022] [cgi:error] [pid 19438] [client 172.16.2.37:31232] AH01215: DBIx::Class::Row::store_column(): No such column 'invoicenumber' on K | |
| 04:56 | i had sent email to group as well but did not receive any reply | |
| 04:56 | can anyone figure out what could be the issue | |
| 04:58 | AH01215: DBIx::Class::Row::store_column(): No such column 'discount' on Koha::Schema::Result::Item at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Object.pm line 79: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/acqui/finishreceive.pl, referer: http://kohaadm | |
| 04:58 | we could see several logs where at different places it is mentioning no such column | |
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| 06:10 | alex_ | Bonjour |
| 06:10 | wahanui | privet, alex_ |
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| 06:41 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:21 | ashimema | morning |
| 08:21 | magnuse_ | hooray for bug 5697! |
| 08:21 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Automatic linking in guided reports |
| 08:21 | magnuse_ | kia ora ashimema |
| 08:25 | cait | hello #koha |
| 08:51 | magnuse_ | is the staff client redesign still available in a sandbox somewhere? |
| 08:53 | cait | magnuse_: yes and no |
| 08:53 | biblibre sandboxes has a bit of an older versio, but you shoudl be able to create a new one the tandard way | |
| 08:53 | just don't forget to build CSS | |
| 08:54 | ah, I see it got deleted, I will make one | |
| 08:54 | https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ | |
| 08:54 | wahanui | https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ is broken |
| 08:56 | cait | wahanui: forget https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ |
| 08:56 | wahanui | cait: I forgot https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ |
| 08:59 | cait | magnuse_: https://staff-gui.sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ shoudl be ready now |
| 08:59 | magnuse_ | awesome, thanks! |
| 09:00 | and are we still aiming to have it in 22.11? | |
| 09:00 | cait | I thnk final decision has not been made, tcohen woudl be the one to ask |
| 09:00 | I think it might be good | |
| 09:03 | * magnuse_ | too |
| 09:05 | cait | Discussion happens here. https://github.com/jajm/koha-s[…]e-redesign/issues |
| 09:07 | magnuse_ | on https://sandboxes.biblibre.eu/ the "erm sandbox" links to the bug for the staff client redesign... |
| 09:08 | cait | yes... I chose to ignroe that :) |
| 09:10 | magnuse_ | :-) |
| 09:11 | i can't seem to find the erm bug, though... | |
| 09:20 | cait | don't think there is a bug |
| 09:20 | all on the kanban | |
| 09:21 | https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]u-koha-erm/kanban | |
| 09:22 | magnuse_ | ah, gotcha. a bug might not be a bad idea though, as a "placeholder" |
| 09:22 | cait | code is here: https://gitlab.com/joubu/Koha/-/commits/erm |
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| 10:31 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:06 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 11:06 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
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| 11:16 | marcelr | o/ |
| 11:20 | cait | hi marcelr |
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| 13:40 | lukeg | hi |
| 13:40 | wahanui | privet, lukeg |
| 13:42 | oleonard | Hi lukeg |
| 13:42 | * cait | waves |
| 13:43 | oleonard | In the redesign, there is no longer a difference between the menu associated with a patron or biblio and menu which is just navigation: https://snipboard.io/lbaG5n.jpg |
| 13:43 | https://snipboard.io/ZR4alW.jpg | |
| 13:43 | cait | oleonard: could you maybe provide me with a little template help? |
| 13:43 | but I will look at your screenshot first :) | |
| 13:43 | oleonard | I wonder if that's an important distinction to preserve? |
| 13:44 | And yes cait I'd be happy to | |
| 13:44 | cait | I have this here imploding in the intranet: <a href="[% PROCESS biblio_a_href biblionumber => biblio.biblionumber %]" class="title"> |
| 13:44 | Template process failed: file error - biblio_a_href: not found at /kohadevbox/koha/C4/Templates.pm line 127 | |
| 13:45 | it looks like we never use the link = 1 in the staff interface elsewhere... so i have no working example | |
| 13:46 | or maybe I am just too confused right now | |
| 13:46 | In the template I have: [% INCLUDE 'biblio-title.inc' link = 1 biblio=BIBLIO_RESULT.HOSTITEMENTRIES %] [% BIBLIO_RESULT.RELATEDPARTS | $raw %] | |
| 13:47 | so ... we end in biblio-title.inc here: | |
| 13:47 | [% IF ( link ) %] | |
| 13:47 | <a href="[% PROCESS biblio_a_href biblionumber => biblio.biblionumber %]" class="title"> | |
| 13:47 | [% END %] | |
| 13:47 | but I am stuck on the PROCESS and have to admit I am not sure how they work in the first place | |
| 13:49 | oleonard | cait you're trying to add something? Or this is a bug with an existing page? |
| 13:49 | cait | it's bug 16522 exploding when trying to send a cart from staff interface |
| 13:49 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16522 normal, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Add 773 (Host item entry) to the cart and list displays and e-mails |
| 13:49 | cait | I am trying to fix it |
| 13:50 | how does TT know where to find the code for a Process block? | |
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| 13:55 | cait | hm I think i got an idea... the include might be missing from the file used for generating the email, a sit's not using the standard header/footer |
| 13:56 | oleonard | That was going to be my guess cait |
| 13:56 | cait | it is exactly that, adding the process line fixed it |
| 13:57 | yay :) oleonard++ | |
| 13:57 | oleonard | I did nothing :D |
| 13:57 | cait | you were there with your calming presence and listening :) |
| 13:58 | oleonard | :) |
| 13:58 | jajm, lukeg: I'd be interested in your opinions about the screenshots above if you get a moment | |
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| 14:03 | cait | oleonard: i also took a look at your screenshots, but might need more clues |
| 14:04 | lukeg | oleonard: I'll have a look ASAP! |
| 14:07 | oleonard | cait compare to the differing style of these menus: https://snipboard.io/Ft5blD.jpg |
| 14:07 | https://snipboard.io/a5y8Fb.jpg | |
| 14:11 | kidclamp | Hey all, just curious if anyone is or knows who the owner of koha-community.slack.com is |
| 14:11 | jajm | oleonard: i think it's clear that the patron menu is related to the patron as there are patron specific informations inside the same block, but it's not the case for biblios |
| 14:25 | cait | kidclamp: i don't know |
| 14:27 | jajm | oleonard: maybe we clarify by adding a title above the menu ? |
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| 14:39 | domm[m] | Can we run one instance of RabbitMQ and have several different Koha instances use it? Or do we have to have one RabbitMQ instance per Koha instance? |
| 15:00 | lukeg | oleonard, jajm: I agree with jajm, I think the links in each navigation menu make it clear what the menu is for. The new look is quite nice imo and I don't think the 2 menus need to be visually distinct. IMHO |
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| 15:07 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:07 | oleonard | I'm surprised that the black-on-green tabs have enough contrast... It doesn't look like it to me. |
| 15:07 | A screenshot with a possible alternative: https://snipboard.io/kHSALa.jpg | |
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| 15:11 | jajm | oleonard: black on green pass WCAG AAA test |
| 15:11 | oleonard | I know, I just don't think it looks like it does |
| 15:12 | I find it more difficult to read than the white on green | |
| 16:01 | cait | bye all |
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| 16:03 | caroline | I'm very late, but I just wanted to chime in on the side menus thing. I think one is a navigational menu (the Circulation > Checkouts one) for different sections and the other (the patron file) is a navigational menu for the same patron... So one goes between sections and the other stays in the same section, but different subsections(?) |
| 16:04 | I don't think it's critical that they be different, I prefer the new unified look personally... but I *think* there may be one instance where there are both in the same page? I'm trying to find it... maybe I dreamt it | |
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| 16:38 | oleonard | Yes caroline I think there might be some pages in Acquisitions |
| 16:55 | caroline | I'm doing a training on the acq module this afternoon... I'll keep my eyes peeled |
| 16:58 | oleonard | caroline: https://snipboard.io/xWEuTn.jpg |
| 16:58 | caroline | ah! there it is! I didn't hallucinate it |
| 17:01 | oleonard | In the redesign: https://snipboard.io/B3mYL2.jpg |
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| 19:09 | thd | tcohen: Are you around? |
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| 20:51 | thd | tcohen: Are you around? |
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| 21:00 | tuxayo_ | hi :) |
| 21:00 | Anyone for the meeting? | |
| 21:02 | thd | Yes |
| 21:02 | davidnind[m] | Hi tuxayo |
| 21:02 | tuxayo_ | Great :D |
| 21:02 | I'm not at home, I need to get my credential for the wiki etc | |
| 21:03 | thd | ElasticSearch indexing working in MediaWiki Canasta testing for the past two weeks. |
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| 21:06 | tuxayo_ | ok, I'm in, I need to move some things in the agenda |
| 21:06 | alexbuckley | Hi everyone! |
| 21:06 | thd | I missed tcohen . |
| 21:07 | tuxayo_ | What is the wikipage with the meeting cheat sheet again? |
| 21:07 | ah https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Chairing_meetings | |
| 21:07 | let's goooo! | |
| 21:08 | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 28 September 2022 | |
| 21:08 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Sep 28 21:08:15 2022 UTC. The chair is tuxayo_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 21:08 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 21:08 | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_28_september_2022' | |
| 21:08 | tuxayo_ | #topic Introductions |
| 21:08 | alexbuckley | #info Alex Buckley, Catalyst IT, NZ |
| 21:08 | tuxayo_ | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ember_2022#Agenda Today's agenda |
| 21:09 | Refresh it if you had it open | |
| 21:09 | davidnind[m] | #info David Nind, NZ |
| 21:09 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 21:10 | tuxayo_ | #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo Empire, France |
| 21:10 | fridolin | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France |
| 21:10 | * tuxayo_ | is starting to get paid for Koha work! |
| 21:10 | fridolin | tuxayo : Empire strikes back then ^^ |
| 21:10 | ++ | |
| 21:12 | thd | tuxayo_ Please avoid pay distorting your perspective :) |
| 21:12 | tuxayo_ | At a 2% growth per year I expect to consume all the visible universe in 2000 years. Exponentials are great |
| 21:13 | #topic Announcements | |
| 21:13 | Anything to announce that doesn't fit better in the other topics? | |
| 21:13 | davidnind[m] | #info Individual videos and slides (where available) are now online! https://koha-us.org/2022/09/27[…]lides-recordings/ |
| 21:14 | tuxayo_ | great! |
| 21:14 | davidnind[m] | #info Thanks to koha-US for organising KohaCon22 |
| 21:14 | fridolin | super, ill have a look |
| 21:14 | tuxayo_ | thd: there will be certainly one distorion: now I can stop getting worried about rent and food and fearing to have to stop working on Koha |
| 21:14 | koha-us++ | |
| 21:14 | community++ | |
| 21:15 | fridolin | food++ |
| 21:15 | davidnind[m] | From a remote perspective (apart from the timezone 😀) things seem to go really well. |
| 21:15 | bag | #info Brendan Gallagher ByWater |
| 21:15 | tuxayo_ | What do you mean? |
| 21:15 | super cool the page with videos and slides for the conference | |
| 21:16 | Anything else to announce? | |
| 21:17 | thd | Aside from one longish outage using library wifi much better than most conferences at avoiding livestream connection problems. |
| 21:18 | tuxayo_ | Proposal Website for KohaCon 23 https://www.kiwi.fi/display/KK/KohaCon |
| 21:18 | thd | Uses hard wires whenever possible. |
| 21:18 | tuxayo_ | ethernet++ |
| 21:18 | #topic Update from the Release manager (22.11) | |
| 21:18 | tcohen: arround? | |
| 21:18 | IIUC, no | |
| 21:18 | fridolin | wires++, only use wireless for the FM radio ;) |
| 21:19 | tuxayo_ | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 21:19 | rmaints? | |
| 21:19 | wahanui | rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo |
| 21:19 | fridolin | liliputech told he is on releasing 21.11.12 these days |
| 21:19 | tuxayo_ | Everything good so far this month. |
| 21:20 | fridolin: ah great | |
| 21:20 | lucas release stable today I think | |
| 21:20 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
| 21:20 | qa_team? | |
| 21:20 | wahanui | qa_team is probably cait, marcelr, khall, kidclamp, kohaputti, lukeg, aleisha, fridolin, ashimema, tuxayo, nugged, petrova, Joubu and dcook |
| 21:21 | nugged | o/ |
| 21:21 | tuxayo_ | \o |
| 21:21 | fridolin | I didnt do much this month sorry |
| 21:21 | tuxayo_ | I guided another patch testing session with french librarians but this time attendance was very low. It's a bit worrying. |
| 21:21 | fridolin | but i try to follow the current mood |
| 21:22 | i mean the current news | |
| 21:22 | Universities are back on busy time | |
| 21:22 | we see it in our support | |
| 21:23 | tuxayo_ | And monday a patch testing session in english but only people from Germany and Austria came lol Where are english speaking librarians ^^ |
| 21:23 | We tested a few patches and extensively walked through the process | |
| 21:23 | davidnind[m] | tuxayo_++ |
| 21:23 | tuxayo_ | Hopefully it will be a good time investement ^^ |
| 21:24 | davidnind: I hope in the end you will have nothing left to test :P | |
| 21:24 | But it's harder than I though to get attendance | |
| 21:24 | nugged | Keep it flowing as it goes, mates! (tuxayo++ tuxayo_++) because - |
| 21:25 | davidnind[m] | I don't think that will happen any time soon... 😀 |
| 21:25 | fridolin | I see there is life in the french translation ML, you may want to go there fishing for testers |
| 21:25 | tuxayo_ | #info support companies: please relay patch testing sessions to your customers that would be keen to test patch. (announcement in the koha general list) |
| 21:25 | davidnind[m] | I feel slightly guilty that the Needs QA queue is so big.... |
| 21:25 | tuxayo_ | fridolin: that's what I do ;) |
| 21:26 | fridolin | ah super |
| 21:26 | nugged | because don't panic, I (more or less confidently) prognose that all those my and our from-Finland efforts and potentially-to-happen declared things also come into power in upcoming month and this year will be very productive for us in further time - I will have more interest soon from Finnish libraries and some groups will come to help us also because of "KohaCon 2023 and PerlCon which will be all together as one) |
| 21:26 | tuxayo_ | nugged: that's great! :) |
| 21:27 | fridolin | ah what a chance, but i will not be able to be tehre IRL |
| 21:27 | fetch me a T-shirt of PerlCon please ;) | |
| 21:27 | tuxayo_ | he he |
| 21:27 | moving on | |
| 21:28 | #topic Status of roadmap projects | |
| 21:28 | nugged | this one will be "Perl and Koha Conference" so this is unique something "very new", |
| 21:28 | ah, btw: | |
| 21:28 | tuxayo_ | #info https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_22.11_roadmap |
| 21:28 | thd | ElasticSearch indexing has been working in MediaWiki Canasta testing for the past two weeks. |
| 21:28 | nugged | #info Andrew Nugged, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI |
| 21:28 | (sorry lost my info tag :) ) | |
| 21:28 | tuxayo_ | nugged: this is so cool to have both at same time and place |
| 21:29 | nugged | yes and it's also now more moves further made now |
| 21:29 | tuxayo_ | thd: media wiki uses ES now? |
| 21:29 | nugged | I actully drowning in this and this is something "massive" to happen, so - |
| 21:29 | fridolin: maybe you reconsider? | |
| 21:29 | thd | Wikipedia has used ES for a long time. |
| 21:30 | tuxayo_ | So the ugprade of our wiki will introduce ES? |
| 21:30 | thd | Most importantly some extensions are dependent upon ES. |
| 21:30 | I had previously told tcohen that we did not need ES quickly but it was too easy and too much depends on it. | |
| 21:31 | nugged | (sorry for scattering topics, mates, but) btw, link I see posted above, here some updated "few extra info places" - please consider these two: |
| 21:31 | https://bit.ly/PerlKohaCon_welcome | |
| 21:31 | tuxayo_ | Great, it's easy |
| 21:31 | nugged | https://intro.perlkohacon.fi/ |
| 21:31 | tuxayo_ | thanks nugged |
| 21:31 | Sorry, I changed topic too fast | |
| 21:31 | nugged | and I am working now hard to set up all "socicla channels" environment |
| 21:31 | *social | |
| 21:31 | thd | ES indexing took only 5 min. in 1 GiB RAM. |
| 21:32 | with shared single CPU core. | |
| 21:32 | I had been worried about resource use. | |
| 21:32 | nugged | and also we have official dates confirmed - from 14 August (premises booked, and lobbies, etc, for 2023 conference) |
| 21:33 | thd: sorry for scattering threads, I'll some later once you tell I can. Let's go under your lead. | |
| 21:33 | thd | Do not poke this too hard as it has minimal resources: https://koha-mw-canasta-test03.agogme.com/ . |
| 21:33 | davidnind[m] | nugged++ |
| 21:33 | thd++ | |
| 21:33 | alexbuckley | nugged++ |
| 21:34 | thd | I finished VectorMod a modified version of the Vector skin allowing people to use either. |
| 21:34 | I plan to set everyone to VectorMod as default. | |
| 21:35 | tuxayo_ | thd: great full scale pictures now work :D |
| 21:35 | thd++ | |
| 21:35 | thd | They always worked in Apache. |
| 21:35 | tuxayo_ | ah ok |
| 21:35 | nugged++ thanks for the info | |
| 21:35 | thd | Nginx was always the problem. The workaround for Nginx requires work. |
| 21:36 | tuxayo_ | thd: what is left before rolling out the upgrade? |
| 21:36 | davidnind[m] | thd: Do you need testers to have a look around? From a quick browse things looked OK to me. |
| 21:37 | thd | Essentially nothing but getting together with tcohen who is working on integrating a custom Docker container with Koha container infrastructure. |
| 21:38 | davidnind[m] | Excellent! |
| 21:38 | wahanui | darn tootin' it is. |
| 21:38 | tuxayo_ | thd: that's great new |
| 21:38 | davidnind[m] | And then it gets switched over? |
| 21:38 | thd | davidnind[m] testers should be careful not to poke too hard because of low resources there. |
| 21:38 | tuxayo_ | thd++ congrats on getting rid of the blockers |
| 21:39 | thd | Also much trouble with varnish caching in my testing. |
| 21:39 | tcohen said that we probably will not use varnish which is fine. | |
| 21:40 | Problems are about clearing the varnsih Docker container cache after changing a non-content page feature. | |
| 21:41 | I modified the AdvancedSearch extension but it would not appear until the cache expired for non-logged in users. | |
| 21:42 | Similarly changes in the navigation sidebar which gives separate links to current and obsolete content. | |
| 21:42 | mtj ran some diffs between production and my out of date testing copies of the database. | |
| 21:43 | tuxayo_ | mtj++ |
| 21:43 | thd: when can we hope to have the upgrade rolled? Assuming the usual last moment suprises | |
| 21:43 | thd | The only differences he found in a crawl were obvious updates where content was not current on my testing copy of the database. |
| 21:44 | It could be tomorrow if tcohen appears and is ready. | |
| 21:44 | tuxayo_ | wooow |
| 21:44 | davidnind[m] | Excellent! |
| 21:44 | wahanui | darn tootin' it is. |
| 21:44 | thd | More likely next week if I catch him at the right hour. |
| 21:45 | tuxayo_ | thd: that great! |
| 21:45 | Moving on? | |
| 21:45 | #topic Actions from last meeting | |
| 21:45 | thd | He may honour some holidays around now. I honour none but do have another surprise job on, in addition to my regular late and early week job. |
| 21:45 | tuxayo_ | tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together |
| 21:46 | #action tcohen to schedule/call a "CSRF day" to work on related patches together | |
| 21:46 | @later tell tcohen any news about the above? http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-09-28#i_2452788 | |
| 21:46 | huginn` | tuxayo_: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:46 | tuxayo_ | liliputech (deferred from previous meetingx3) discuss koha CI (docker image built + manual build) hosting on gitlab instance provided by BibLibre's partner AFI. |
| 21:46 | let's drop that | |
| 21:46 | Katrin to update LTS wiki page with current information from last dev meeting | |
| 21:47 | thd | tcohen is probably best reached early in the morning in his time zone when I am often asleep in the same or similar time zone. |
| 21:47 | tuxayo_ | what is the wiki page again |
| 21:48 | I guess https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]workflow_proposal | |
| 21:48 | #action cait /Katrin to update LTS wiki page with current information from last dev meeting | |
| 21:49 | ashimema will file a bug making Koha::Object::public_read_list throw an exception | |
| 21:49 | I dunno | |
| 21:49 | #action ashimema will file a bug making Koha::Object::public_read_list throw an exception | |
| 21:49 | tcohen Date proposal for master→main change and draft of action list | |
| 21:49 | I think I meant draft | |
| 21:49 | #action tcohen draft proposal for master→main change and draft of action list | |
| 21:50 | @later tell tcohen any news about the above? http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-09-28#i_2452803 | |
| 21:50 | huginn` | tuxayo_: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:50 | tuxayo_ | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 21:50 | Bug 31150 - _on or _date for DB date columns? | |
| 21:50 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31150 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , _on or _date for DB date columns? |
| 21:50 | tuxayo_ | «We need to decide a naming for the dates column.» |
| 21:50 | «We have _on and _date:» | |
| 21:52 | thd | _on is certainly cryptic without context. |
| 21:52 | tuxayo_ | So contributions needed on bug 31150 to settle the matter |
| 21:53 | davidnind[m] | Maybe add as an action for those interested to comment on the bug, and then bring back to the next meeting? |
| 21:53 | khall joined #koha | |
| 21:53 | tuxayo_ | #action thd |
| 21:53 | oops | |
| 21:54 | thd | ... however, as Joubu identifies _date is problematic when it is not merely a date but actually a date with time. |
| 21:54 | tuxayo_ | #action thd give their two cents on bug 31150 in order to tilt the scale to on side. |
| 21:55 | @later tell ashimema So in the meeting we just highlighted bug 31150 and called for contributions. If you had something else in mind, feel free to put back on the agenda. | |
| 21:55 | huginn` | tuxayo_: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:55 | tuxayo_ | next: Are we supporting MySQL? (either 5.7 or 8.0) - CI only tests MySQL 8 on main/master. |
| 21:55 | Anyone here know something about our DB support? | |
| 21:57 | #action tuxayo ask on the mailing list « are we supporting MySQL? (either 5.7 or 8.0) - CI only tests MySQL 8 on main/master. » | |
| 21:57 | davidnind[m] | System requirements: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]d_recommendations |
| 21:58 | Doesn't mention MySQL... | |
| 21:58 | tuxayo_ | I'm raising the topic to know if it should mention it |
| 21:59 | davidnind[m] | Great! |
| 21:59 | tuxayo_ | Maybe we dropped strong support for MySQL years ago? And only kept MySQL 8 on master to catch the strict SQL mode issues |
| 21:59 | Because that's mostly how I hear about MySQL | |
| 22:00 | And MySQL 5.7 still has the db increment issue I heard on a past meeting | |
| 22:02 | Let's see what we will learn when asking on the list | |
| 22:02 | next: SQL8 of our coding guidelines state that SQL should not be in .pl, but should be in the module in C4 or Koha. This would mean that SQL in the Koha namespace is allowed and there is no mention of DBIC in the coding guidelines right now. | |
| 22:03 | davidnind[m] | I have no idea... 🙂 |
| 22:04 | tuxayo_ | let's ask on the other meeting slot. It looks straightforward to add that SQL is allowed in DBIC. but «This would mean that SQL in the Koha namespace is allowed» does this mean we should ban SQL from .pm? |
| 22:04 | #action tuxayo postpone «SQL8 of our coding guidelines state that SQL should not be in .pl, but should be in the module in C4 or Koha. This would mean that SQL in the Koha namespace is allowed and there is no mention of DBIC in the coding guidelines right now. » | |
| 22:05 | Update guidelines with the replacement of jQueryUI Datepicker with flatpickr - introduced in bug 29239. And document the usage in the wiki | |
| 22:05 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29239 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [OMNIBUS] Replace jQueryUI's timepicker with flatpickr |
| 22:06 | tuxayo_ | It's hard to get the few people that know the details of flatpickr usage in meeting. Let's move that to the mailing list |
| 22:06 | davidnind[m] | +1 |
| 22:07 | tuxayo_ | #action tuxayo can for volunteers on the mailing list to «Update coding guidelines with the replacement of jQueryUI Datepicker with flatpickr - introduced in bug 29239. And document the usage in the wiki. cc Aleisha who had trouble with using flatpickr for the detail of what is missing» |
| 22:07 | Any other topic before closing? | |
| 22:07 | davidnind[m] | Maybe we should create a bug for that, so that the guidelines are updated - they all mention jQueryUI datepicker.. |
| 22:07 | Nothing from me.... | |
| 22:10 | tuxayo_ | #action tuxayo maybe create a ticket for updating the guidelines about flatpickr |
| 22:10 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 22:10 | I'll get the time for next meeting in the other time slot | |
| 22:11 | For the next meeting in this this timeslot, same hour? When the daylight saving time change in NZ and Australia? | |
| 22:11 | davidnind[m] | NZ is now in daylight savings time... |
| 22:12 | tuxayo_ | Oh, it changed? |
| 22:12 | So the meeting didn't that on 9:00 am for you? | |
| 22:12 | *didn't start | |
| 22:12 | davidnind[m] | 10am for us now... |
| 22:13 | Changed last weekend | |
| 22:13 | tuxayo_ | ok |
| 22:13 | Maybe it changed in Australia | |
| 22:13 | nugged | 1am in Finland :P ) |
| 22:13 | tuxayo_ | ^^ |
| 22:13 | And we might get a nice time for dcook | |
| 22:13 | nugged | (don't asking for any time slot changes though :) ) |
| 22:14 | davidnind[m] | nugged++ |
| 22:14 | thd | Australia changes on 2 October this year. |
| 22:15 | tuxayo_ | ok thanks |
| 22:15 | davidnind[m] | #info Bug 31645 created for updating coding guidelines for flatpickr |
| 22:15 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31645 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , flatpickr - update coding guidelines |
| 22:16 | tuxayo_ | Next meeting on this time slot would be 26 october |
| 22:16 | now let's see what it does for Australia | |
| 22:18 | At 22 UTC it would be 9:00 in Australia and 11:00 in Aotearoa | |
| 22:18 | fridolin | this is after DST change in France right ? |
| 22:19 | davidnind[m] | Depends what state, https://www.timeanddate.com/wo[…]iso=20221026T2200 |
| 22:19 | tuxayo_ | fridolin « ends on the last Sunday of October» |
| 22:19 | not yet | |
| 22:19 | davidnind[m]: ah yes, I meant the one where dcook it | |
| 22:20 | *is | |
| 22:20 | fridolin | ok |
| 22:20 | tuxayo_ | new south wales |
| 22:20 | davidnind[m] | dcook = Sydney, so during his working day |
| 22:20 | thd | 6 am in Perth |
| 22:21 | tuxayo_ | davidnind[m]: can you chair the 26th of october at 11:00 your time? |
| 22:21 | I can't be sure to chair at 00:00 my time | |
| 22:21 | * fridolin | AFK |
| 22:21 | tuxayo_ | or fridolin ! |
| 22:21 | davidnind[m] | OK with me |
| 22:21 | tuxayo_ | thanks a lot |
| 22:21 | davidnind++ | |
| 22:21 | let's finally end this | |
| 22:21 | davidnind[m] | I'm sure someone will |
| 22:22 | tuxayo_ | #info Next meeting: 12 October 2022, 14 UTC |
| 22:22 | ######info Next Oceania-Americas slot meeting: 26 October 2022, 22 UTC | |
| 22:22 | #endmeeting | |
| 22:22 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Sep 28 22:22:49 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 22:22 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-09-28-21.08.html | |
| 22:22 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-09-28-21.08.txt | |
| 22:22 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]28-21.08.log.html | |
| 22:23 | davidnind[m] | tuxayo_++ |
| 22:23 | tuxayo_ | Thanks all for attending. Sorry, that what is bit of a struggle |
| 22:24 | I hope using ######info is enough for the script not to break seeing the meeting after the next being planned | |
| 22:24 | nugged | so, again - dates confirmed, I am working hard to announce further things and get maximum from Perl community as well, and soon (maybe weeks) I will come with detailed vision (days, streams, etc) + I will chase most of us (Koha community core team members and activists) with topics and SIG- invites and so on, |
| 22:24 | thd | Time zones are always a struggle. We need the world to function on UTC all together :) |
| 22:25 | hard | |
| 22:26 | nugged | also for this I want us to organize some dev- SIGs to work on things we already working but to rise that up to higher level and other people attention (ERM ILL BibFrame and so on like that) |
| 22:27 | and more. That's why we here organizing some social channels to follow and will go round and round on those topics and more to get the best results, as written here - https://intro.perlkohacon.fi/#/ - to be more in "culmination" point that in just "starting" :) | |
| 22:28 | davidnind[m] | nugged: I'm sure koha-US would be happy to add a new SIG(s) |
| 22:28 | nugged | and yes, please, - check here: https://bit.ly/PerlKohaCon_welcome and then soon we'll start to make social noise |
| 22:29 | <davidnind[m]> - yes, I personally open and that's my plan for Sep-Oct to establish as much as possible communication and coordination to make the most of this event. | |
| 22:29 | (and we know koha-US loves SIGs :) ) | |
| 22:29 | tuxayo_ | thd: «We need the world to function on UTC all together» That doesn't change the issue, I would have to search when the work day start on Australia and NZ. And DST could still be a thing |
| 22:30 | We need the world be flat, that would solve the issues! | |
| 22:30 | davidnind[m] | nugged: let me know if you would like access to the kohails Twitter account (we use Tweetdeck) for posting #KohaCon23 things |
| 22:30 | nugged | > We need the world be flat, that would solve the issues! |
| 22:30 | there are "corner and border case issues" then :) | |
| 22:30 | thd | tuxayo_ Flat is what I meant, with everyone starting at more or less the same time irrespective of daylight :) |
| 22:31 | tuxayo_ | he he |
| 22:31 | nugged: «to be more in "culmination" point that in just "starting"» Interesting point! | |
| 22:32 | nugged++ | |
| 22:32 | nugged | ... but guys, I'll tell ya, UTC TZ DST problems ... Meh... say this for Ukraine ppl. |
| 22:32 | tuxayo_: and yes, we want here in Finland that much as possible people to be in-person, really. | |
| 22:33 | * thd | likes darkness or at least the idea that I can work late without much disturbance while I can stay awake. Early rising is an alternative but more difficult with regular late hours when working in person ;) |
| 22:33 | nugged | (sidenote: Ukrainian warriors working on some "deadline" for something to stop and I hope that will be more reasons to meet in person than just Perl and Koha!) |
| 22:34 | davidnind[m]: twitter case: OK! noted. I'll come for more hints anyway in direct connections. Ok. | |
| 22:34 | tuxayo_ | see ya soon folk, bye :) |
| 22:34 | *folks | |
| 22:35 | tuxayo_ left #koha | |
| 22:37 | nugged | 🤗 |
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