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| 01:31 | nugged | @later tell cait that was "moved carefully by ... one person who I can't blame publicly" to another confluence space. I fixed for a moment: https://www.kiwi.fi/display/KK/KohaCon . ALSO: I am launching now draft on intro.perlkohacon.fi to stay on a stage for current KohaCon2022 presentation and call to join. Will update. |
| 01:31 | huginn` | nugged: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:31 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:31 | wahanui | bidet, reiveune |
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| 06:52 | alex_ | Bonjour |
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| 07:26 | ashimema | morning' |
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| 07:33 | cait | hellooo #koha |
| 07:58 | hm from logs on master: Can't call method "process" on an undefined value at /kohadevbox/koha/misc/background_jobs_worker.pl line 124. ? | |
| 08:00 | ashimema | Pass |
| 08:00 | But I can say we're generally finding the background job stuff incredibly unreliable | |
| 08:01 | cait | Hm i think the UX is not great atm- addings lots of extra clicks/steps |
| 08:38 | ashimema | For me it's the actual reliability of tasks getting processed.. |
| 08:38 | I'm constantly having to kick them | |
| 08:38 | cait | we are still on an older version, so not seeing this yet, although I think we have been hit by the 'staff name cannot have diacritics' bug |
| 08:54 | hm no kidclamp | |
| 08:56 | @later tell kidclamp coudl you help me to figure out the right syntax for Elasticsearch in bug 31471? | |
| 08:56 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:27 | cait | hm even quieter today... |
| 10:42 | ashimema | I'm here still 🙂 |
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| 11:24 | marcelr | o/ |
| 11:27 | cait: Did you report that warn: Can't call method "process" ? | |
| 11:28 | if you look in the script, it should be a job in the message broker part of the loop | |
| 11:28 | there is no check if the Koha find returned something | |
| 11:29 | there should be more checks in this worker thing to get a more reliable experience | |
| 11:44 | ashimema: still willing to check bug 22678 ? | |
| 11:44 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Set 'Koha::Logger' as the default mojo logger for the REST API |
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| 12:17 | ashimema | doh.. I thought I had |
| 12:35 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 12:35 | ashimema around? | |
| 12:35 | ashimema | hi |
| 12:36 | tcohen | do you think you have bandwidth this week so we tackle some background jobs-related stuffs? |
| 12:36 | ashimema | sure |
| 12:36 | tcohen | yay |
| 12:37 | marcelr: have you looked at the 'use the API to displya background jobs' bug? | |
| 12:37 | we were waiting for some more eyes | |
| 12:37 | I'd like us to build that component for 'the return of the progress bar' | |
| 12:37 | marcelr | ok i read somehting that you did push a report but i did not see it |
| 12:37 | tcohen | (using the API) |
| 12:38 | marcelr | a comment on 27421? |
| 12:38 | maybe i misread | |
| 12:38 | diagonally | |
| 12:38 | tcohen | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30982 |
| 12:38 | huginn` | Bug 30982: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Use the REST API for background job list view |
| 12:38 | marcelr | ah ok you didnt push yet |
| 12:38 | tcohen | I'd like to push it, would love you to review it |
| 12:39 | marcelr | sure |
| 12:39 | at least qa on friday maybe earlier | |
| 12:40 | depends on other stuff | |
| 12:41 | tcohen | just let me know if you hate it |
| 12:42 | marcelr | i would not expect that |
| 12:42 | even when i see ternaries | |
| 12:42 | tcohen | haha |
| 12:42 | marcelr | written awfully |
| 12:43 | *Â tcohen | hates nested ternaries |
| 12:45 | *Â marcelr | looks for testers of bug 31503 |
| 12:45 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Allow several consent types on the consents tab of OPAC account page |
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| 12:46 | ashimema | nice |
| 12:46 | tcohen | nice |
| 12:46 | count me in | |
| 12:49 | cait | marcelr: sorry, was stuck on soemthing else, didn't report |
| 12:53 | still a little distracted | |
| 12:53 | preparing for a workshop tomorrow | |
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| 12:56 | tcohen | good luck cait! |
| 12:56 | you will rock it for sure | |
| 12:56 | where is that workshop taking place? | |
| 12:57 | cait | ah online |
| 12:57 | it's a series of workshops, we are doing a bit of acq and serials tomorrow... which brings me to | |
| 12:58 | coudl someone maybe ping khall for me? :) | |
| 12:58 | hm that was the wrong direction | |
| 12:58 | (khall just left) | |
| 12:58 | tcohen | computer suspended, afk |
| 12:59 | cait | wanted to reask yesterday's question about the ACQORDER mails |
| 12:59 | if there is a way we coudl display the budget_name | |
| 12:59 | using TT | |
| 13:01 | tcohen | wait for it |
| 13:04 | cait | I wait :) |
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| 13:14 | ashimema | as far as I can see.. there's a shed load of custom code around that particular notice |
| 13:14 | so I don't think so cait | |
| 13:14 | unless.. you can get it from 'branches', 'aqbooksellers', 'aqcontacts' or possibly 'aqbasket' | |
| 13:14 | the actual orderdetails are a customer 'repeat' sql section | |
| 13:15 | is budget set at basket level, or per order line.. | |
| 13:15 | *Â ashimema | can't remember |
| 13:16 | cait | order line |
| 13:16 | ashimema | so you'd want budget per order line |
| 13:17 | so.. in theory you could just ignore the 'repeat' section entirely I reckon.. and instead iterate using TT based on the aqbasket | |
| 13:17 | [% FOREACH order IN basket.orders %].. | |
| 13:17 | something like that | |
| 13:18 | then [% order.fund.name %] | |
| 13:18 | that should probably work | |
| 13:18 | but yeah.. you may well need to re-write half the template to actually get it. | |
| 13:19 | cait | i tried several veriation with basket... |
| 13:19 | i didn't get it to output anything | |
| 13:19 | so i don't need like that... i need the exact by now | |
| 13:20 | tcohen | khall: around? |
| 13:20 | KotH | es, and fish are plants... in japan |
| 13:20 | oops | |
| 13:20 | khall | yep! |
| 13:20 | KotH | sorry.. wrong window ^^' |
| 13:20 | tcohen | khall: cait (and all of us) is struggling with the ACQORDER notice TT |
| 13:21 | which is one of a kind with all that custom stuff | |
| 13:21 | but we cannot seem to proide her a way to get the budget name | |
| 13:21 | cait | heh khall is already helping me |
| 13:21 | tcohen | ah |
| 13:21 | cait | we can move here too - or share results |
| 13:22 | conclusion.... new bug whatever we end up with | |
| 13:22 | ashimema | do it 🙂 |
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| 13:23 | *Â ashimema | would like to kill off SendAlerts |
| 13:23 | ashimema | it's a weird set of cases |
| 13:23 | cait | it shoudl be moved to be different methods |
| 13:23 | split up | |
| 13:23 | acq orders and claims are almost the same, but otherwise it's a lot of very different things | |
| 13:25 | ashimema | as far as I'm concerned.. the majority of the custom handling could just go away if we rewrite the default notice templates to use TT |
| 13:25 | we really don't need this custom 'repeat' chuff any more | |
| 13:25 | I did start working through these things but never really got much support.. so I gave up | |
| 13:25 | it was yet another up hill struggle | |
| 13:29 | tcohen | with TT and Koha::Object(s) we should be able to provide a better (and more generic) approach |
| 13:30 | we are still missing a nice doc on what info you can get from object to generate good notices/slips, though | |
| 13:31 | cait | i'd be interested, but for a long time I couldn't test email well |
| 13:31 | ashimema | that was right up high on my list tcohen |
| 13:31 | cait | I can now :) witht he SMTP stuff I got it working |
| 13:31 | ashimema | better documentation and a much clearer picker thing |
| 13:32 | email is now testable on sandboxes cait 🙂 | |
| 13:32 | I had it enabled by default, which was the last missing step, for sandboxes last week | |
| 13:32 | tcohen | andrewfh once showed me you could dump all the template vars on the notice |
| 13:32 | ashimema | so now.. the message queue processing stuff happens every 5 minutes and will output emails to the mail log in the sandboxes |
| 13:32 | cait | oh nice, didn't know that |
| 13:33 | ptfs sandboxes for now? | |
| 13:33 | tcohen | marcelr: are the deps for 31503 correct? |
| 13:33 | marcelr | no they are wrong |
| 13:34 | will move the omnibus | |
| 13:38 | cait | khall++ |
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| 13:39 | oleonard | Hi from KohaCon |
| 13:40 | tcohen | o/ |
| 13:40 | conffetti | |
| 13:40 | marcelr | hi kohacon |
| 13:40 | tcohen | confetti? |
| 13:40 | wahanui | o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 13:41 | cait | oleonard: please do all the things we'd do and all the other stuff as well :) |
| 13:41 | oleonard | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_vxMZ60OmQ |
| 13:42 | ashimema | question.. |
| 13:42 | wahanui | hmmm... question is a bit general |
| 13:42 | cait | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 13:42 | wahanui | :) |
| 13:42 | ashimema | do we have a clear guideline as to what should be a tab at the side of the page on catalog details pages.. and what should be a tab at the bottom? |
| 13:43 | oleonard | Not really :/ |
| 13:43 | ashimema | haha |
| 13:43 | had a feeling that might be the case.. | |
| 13:43 | I'm stuck wondering where I should put something now.. | |
| 13:44 | I wanted to add my concerns stuff to actually appear with the bib | |
| 13:44 | but should it be a side tab or a bottom tab.. haha | |
| 13:44 | cait | hm as it's part of the MARC... i feel like maybe below? |
| 13:44 | oleonard | That feels like a bottom tab to me if you're taking votes |
| 13:44 | ashimema | or perhaps a 'message' card like we have for messages on patron accounts |
| 13:45 | cait | I am utterly confused by this card terminology |
| 13:46 | tcohen | kohacon++ |
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| 14:05 | ashimema | Thanks đź‘Ť |
| 14:27 | cait | khall++ |
| 14:28 | bug 31587 | |
| 14:28 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31587 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Basket not accessible from ACQORDER notice |
| 14:36 | tcohen | khall++ |
| 14:36 | cait++ # in advance for that documentation hehe | |
| 14:37 | cait | I'll add the new notice template, once we have this gone through - makes more sense then, so we can make a nice one |
| 14:38 | i have nother puzzling bug: Bug 31585 | |
| 14:38 | i have no idea why not all of the listed ations show up in our form right now | |
| 14:38 | i thinkt he bug is in the template, but there's a lot of magic there | |
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| 14:52 | cait | tcohen++ |
| 14:53 | small errors... big consequences | |
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| 15:08 | tcohen | can we standardize on 'extended_attributes' for attributes outside of the table? |
| 15:09 | ashimema | ? |
| 15:11 | tcohen | patron extended_attributes, then items (more_xml_subfields) |
| 15:11 | and then we have Koha::AdditionalFieldValues | |
| 15:11 | ashimema | lol |
| 15:11 | crazy huh | |
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| 15:38 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:42 | oleonard | I did not anticipate that Koha testing would be so difficult on a new Mac laptop |
| 15:42 | koha-testing-docker not working, VirtualBox doesn't work | |
| 15:56 | tuxayo | oleonard: You have an ARM Mac with MacOS? |
| 15:56 | oleonard | Yes |
| 15:56 | tuxayo | I think paulderscheid has that and is running KTD |
| 15:57 | oleonard | Hm, okay. All I've found so far is this: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]cker/-/issues/277 |
| 16:02 | tuxayo | great, you are 3 people at least trying to run that! |
| 16:06 | tcohen | the problem is ES |
| 16:06 | the rest of it should work? | |
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| 16:17 | tcohen | hi kidclamp |
| 16:17 | !! | |
| 16:17 | *Â kidclamp | waves |
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| 16:21 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "docker-compose -f docker-compose-light.yml -p koha up --force-recreate" (7 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/14931 |
| 16:23 | oleonard | tcohen does that give you any insight? |
| 16:25 | tcohen | nope |
| 16:25 | aren't you using the 'ktd' command? | |
| 16:25 | oleonard | I'm having trouble with my aliases |
| 16:25 | tcohen | I haven't had the chance to play with an M1 mac |
| 16:25 | ktd is a symlink | |
| 16:25 | not an alias | |
| 16:26 | something new we added | |
| 16:26 | oleonard | Oh. I'll have to try more after lunch :) |
| 16:26 | tcohen | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ting-docker#setup |
| 16:28 | tuxayo | Should the ktd command yield a different result than docker-compose-light.yml ? |
| 16:29 | weird apache error | |
| 16:43 | tcohen | ktd up => docker-compose-light.yml |
| 16:43 | ktd --es7 up => you get it | |
| 16:45 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ster/bin/ktd#L139 | |
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| 17:49 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Using "ktd up"" (16 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/14936 |
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| 17:50 | oleonard_ | If you're still around, tcohen ^^ |
| 17:50 | Or other smart people | |
| 17:51 | tcohen | echo $KOHA_IMAGE |
| 17:51 | ? | |
| 17:52 | ktd down | |
| 17:52 | KOHA_IMAGE=master-bullseye ktd up | |
| 17:52 | that's what I'm using | |
| 17:52 | *Â oleonard_ | trying |
| 18:00 | mtj | hi oleonard_, tcohen |
| 18:01 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "KOHA_IMAGE=master-bullseye ktd up" (14 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/14938 |
| 18:01 | oleonard | Hi mtj! |
| 18:02 | mtj | hi oleonard, ill try to sort a master image for your m1 |
| 18:03 | oleonard | Thanks mtj |
| 18:04 | mtj | oleonard: Â perhaps try getting a 22.05-bullseye thing running 1st |
| 18:05 | oleonard: Â clone this https://gitlab.com/mjames/ktd-arm64 | |
| 18:06 | change to 22.05 branch | |
| 18:06 | wahanui | mtj: that doesn't look right |
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| 18:07 | pastebot | "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ka-arm64-22.05" (25 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/14940 |
| 18:07 | mtj | oleonard: Â then run that ^ |
| 18:08 | oleonard | 🙏 |
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| 18:20 | oleonard | mtj: koha-koha-1 exited after "Cannnot open file No such file or directory at /kohadevbox/misc4dev/cp_debian_files.pl line 35." |
| 18:22 | mtj | export SYNC_REPO="/home/mason/g/k/ktd_koha" |
| 18:22 | oleonard: you might need to set your export SYNC_REPO var? | |
| 18:22 | tcohen | just in case (happened to me recently on the mac) |
| 18:22 | unset PERL5LIB | |
| 18:23 | on the shell you're running things | |
| 18:23 | mtj | cp ./env/defaults.env .env |
| 18:23 | ^ oleonard: and get a sane default .env file | |
| 18:25 | oleonard | sane doesn't fit my mood |
| 18:26 | tcohen | ROTFL |
| 18:27 | tuxayo | We need insane-defaults.env |
| 18:30 | *Â tcohen | loves randomly failing settings |
| 18:31 | tcohen | as in selenium tests in Koha_Master |
| 18:31 | oleonard | mtj looks like I'm up and running, thank you so much! |
| 18:34 | mtj | no probs, the elastic stuff does work on arm64/m1 |
| 18:37 | tuxayo | mtj++ |
| 18:37 | welcome back oleonard ^^ Is ES running also ? | |
| 18:38 | oleonard | I don't know, I didn't check! |
| 18:38 | I usually don't test ES because it makes things more difficult | |
| 18:39 | tuxayo | Currently live from KohaCon, «Koha Implementation in GHQ central Library» by Sher Afzal Khan (Koha Pakistan) |
| 18:39 | https://youtube.com/kohaus/live | |
| 18:39 | mtj | oleonard: there is a master-bullseye image now |
| 18:40 | git checkout master | |
| 18:40 | git fetch; git pull | |
| 18:41 | hmm, its untested tho... ill start a test on it | |
| 18:59 | oleonard: master-bullseye image seems to work, if that helps... | |
| 19:01 | oleonard | mtj++ |
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| 19:20 | thd | oleonard: Are you in Kansas now? |
| 19:20 | oleonard | Yes |
| 19:22 | thd | I do not have access to the KohaCon22 Google Group. Â I did not use a gmail address to register for the virtual conference. |
| 19:24 | davidnind[m] | thd: link for live stream https://youtube.com/kohaus/live |
| 19:28 | thd | davidnind[m]: Â Thanks, I have been attending the YouTube stream more or less but am missing some other information from the KohaCon22 Google Group to which I am not subscribed. |
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| 19:31 | thd | kidclamp: Â You should be testing performance against at least hundreds of thousands of records if not millions. |
| 19:33 | kidclamp | I do that sometimes, but when I hear my CPU fan kick on, I throttle back :-D |
| 19:44 | thd | That keeps your CPU fan well tested :) |
| 19:52 | tuxayo | thd: if the KohaCon22 Google Group is like the Koha US "mailing list" (it's a Google Group) then you need a Google account. If more people report that they can't read or take part due to that then hopefully future choices or tool will be more respectable. |
| 19:52 | Hostile digital tools are everywhere :( | |
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| 19:55 | thd | tuxayo: I gave oleonard a googlemail address which I have but never use in hopes that he might be able to reach someone in person to add that address to the Google Group. |
| 19:56 | tuxayo | you can reach "info AT koha-us.org " also |
| 19:57 | Careful, it's Gmail address, so risk of ending up in spam | |
| 19:59 | thd | tuxayo: Running a mail server or group messaging requires some effort particularly at spam prevention. Â Even with the specially created email address through which I registered for virtual conference attendance half of the four or so messages I have are spam. |
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| 20:17 | tuxayo | Currently live from KohaCon, «Twilio – Enhancing Patron Communication» by Christopher Brannon (Coeur d’Alene Public Library / Cooperative Information Network) |
| 20:18 | Just starting https://youtube.com/kohaus/live | |
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