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| 06:04 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 06:32 | marcelr | hi fridolin |
| 06:33 | fridolin | yey marcelr le bonjour |
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| 06:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:40 | wahanui | bonjour, reiveune |
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| 06:41 | marcelr | hi reiveune |
| 06:41 | and cait | |
| 06:41 | reiveune | \o_ |
| 06:42 | * cait | waves |
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| 07:56 | paulderscheid[m] | morning #koha |
| 07:56 | I've got an interesting idea. Wouldn't it be great if we had key-based auth on the API? | |
| 07:57 | I thought about managing sysprefs via API but I think without key-based auth it's not safe enough. | |
| 08:02 | matts | hi paulderscheid[m], you can create API keys for a given user: https://koha-community.org/man[…]rface-for-patrons |
| 08:02 | marcelr | yeah it is already there |
| 08:02 | we only have the cookie based stuff too | |
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| 08:02 | ashimema | I assume you mean pki pauldetscheid |
| 08:03 | But I still don't see why that would be a requirement.. we don't require it for login in general, but do offer it I believe ... Can't say I've actually seen anyone using it in the wild though if I'm honest | |
| 08:04 | What we do need however is to support more oauth flows | |
| 08:04 | Our client credentials only flow isn't great | |
| 08:05 | paulderscheid[m] | Very cool |
| 08:05 | marcelr | ashimema: i pqaed 29744 and simplied 31468 and made it dependent; could you have a look again? |
| 08:05 | paulderscheid[m] | Good to know |
| 08:05 | marcelr | s/simplied/simplified/ |
| 08:06 | ashimema | This afternoon I can.. once I'm back from the school run I need to concentrate on writing a post for our new website.. lunchtime deadline |
| 08:06 | marcelr | thx |
| 08:07 | paulderscheid[m] | ashimema: I think we'll make use of that in the near future |
| 08:08 | Anyway, thanks for the pointers. I'm glad that it's already there ^^ | |
| 08:13 | <ashimema> "What we do need however is to..." <- What's missing? | |
| 08:13 | Just out of curiosity | |
| 08:23 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 08:52 | cait | po files on Pootle have been updated (no string freeze announced yet I think) |
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| 08:53 | lds | hi |
| 08:54 | hello | |
| 08:54 | do you have feedback on using mariadb 10.6 with koha? | |
| 08:56 | cait | hm no idea what we are using let me check |
| 08:56 | 10.3.34-MariaDB - no known issues, we always use what's in Debian I believe | |
| 09:00 | lds | jenkins test is ok https://jenkins.koha-community[…]b/Koha_21.05_U22/ |
| 09:03 | fridolin | it is not yet in https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]d_recommendations |
| 09:03 | maybe it should be | |
| 09:03 | tuxayo: do you know about MariaDB 10.6 ? | |
| 09:11 | mtj | hi lds, we have a mariadb-latest build, that seems to be passing - running 10.9.2 |
| 09:12 | https://jenkins.koha-community[…]r_D11_MDB_Latest/ | |
| 09:13 | cait | if you need a website update let me know |
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| 09:16 | marcelr | hi mtj did you see the Debian 9 bug |
| 09:17 | few days ago | |
| 09:17 | mtj | marcelr: yes, i updated the wiki page to remove EOL deb9 |
| 09:18 | marcelr | ok |
| 09:18 | that makes sense | |
| 09:18 | should we announce that somewhere else too? | |
| 09:19 | mtj | yeah, i think so |
| 09:20 | ML perhaps? | |
| 09:20 | ..and website 'news' item? | |
| 09:21 | lds, i'll change the U22 jenkins builds to use mariadb-10.6 | |
| 09:24 | i think it is a good idea to have each OS build, running the DB version which is avaiable in it's repo | |
| 09:24 | ... rather than all builds running mariadb 10.3, etc | |
| 09:27 | that way we can test more db versions too | |
| 09:28 | marcelr | mtj: ML would be good |
| 09:32 | mtj | ok, i can do that |
| 09:33 | marcelr | mtj++ |
| 09:33 | i closed the bug | |
| 09:35 | cait | mtj: coudl you help me fix https://koha-community.org/download-koha/ ? |
| 09:35 | it lists debian 9 under Current Release | |
| 09:37 | the link List of all released versions of Koha also seems not correctly labelled | |
| 09:37 | released versions and packaged versions are different - also the link doesn't show all packages ever made.. | |
| 09:37 | possibly shoudl be change dto https://download.koha-community.org/old_releases/ ? | |
| 09:38 | mtj | me looks |
| 09:38 | cait | thanks :) |
| 09:38 | just saw "M... is currently editing" :) | |
| 09:45 | marcelr | ashimema++ |
| 09:47 | cait | mtj++ |
| 09:48 | mtj | cait: look ok? |
| 10:01 | ashimema | erm |
| 10:01 | cait.. I can't replicate bug 31465 | |
| 10:01 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 21.11 manual says it is 20.05 manual |
| 10:02 | ashimema | hang on... |
| 10:04 | how are you getting to '/systempreferences.html'... it's 'globalpreferences.html' for me... | |
| 10:04 | if I navigate around the manual I can't find a link page you link to from the bug anywhere.. | |
| 10:04 | I'm confused | |
| 10:06 | OK.. back in january 2021 I split up the one huge sysprefs file into smaller ones.. looks like that's when 'systempreferences' became 'globalpreferences' | |
| 10:11 | cait | ashimema: i just copied the link i used earlier... |
| 10:11 | not navigating | |
| 10:12 | let me check | |
| 10:12 | the link works for me: https://koha-community.org/man[…]mpreferences.html | |
| 10:12 | oh i see | |
| 10:12 | maybe an old file was not deleted and that's all? | |
| 10:12 | https://koha-community.org/man[…]tml#web-installer is correct version-wise | |
| 10:13 | ashimema | exactly |
| 10:13 | I'm confused though.. the rsync is meant to get rid of deleted files | |
| 10:13 | cait | i had manipulated the url given on the bug trying a different version |
| 10:13 | ashimema | I'm jsut building locally so try and work out what's going on. |
| 10:13 | cait | ok |
| 10:13 | but maybe deleting them once woudl also be ok | |
| 10:13 | ashimema | I'll ask on the bug.. I'm wondering where the URL is coming from in the first place |
| 10:14 | I reckon it couldperhaps be at the koha help end | |
| 10:14 | cait | hm yeah |
| 10:14 | so we'd need to change different spots | |
| 10:14 | make the page go away, but also fix the link | |
| 10:14 | ashimema | indeed |
| 10:14 | cait | the mapping is in a .pm module |
| 10:15 | i recently added a link, but forgot the exact name | |
| 10:15 | ashimema | so the file doesn't exist when I build recent branches.. I have no idea how you don't get a 404 |
| 10:15 | rsync must be doing something funky I reckon | |
| 10:15 | cait | https://git.koha-community.org[…]oha/Manual.pm#L92 |
| 10:16 | ashimema | aha.. thans |
| 10:16 | I've never really dug into that area of Koha | |
| 10:16 | fancy fixing it there and I'll QA it.. | |
| 10:17 | I'll work on the rsync side | |
| 10:17 | cait | i'll step out for a quick lunch, bbiab |
| 10:17 | ashimema | okies |
| 10:17 | cait | probably won't get to do that today - long todo :( |
| 10:19 | ashimema | rsync -c -u -r -e.. looks like we're missing --del |
| 10:19 | I'll ask ranig about it.. there might be something I'm overlooking | |
| 10:19 | @seen rangi | |
| 10:19 | huginn` | ashimema: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 year, 13 weeks, 6 days, 13 hours, 51 minutes, and 1 second ago: <rangi> ive been accused of worse |
| 10:19 | ashimema | holy moly |
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| 11:08 | cait | not much on IRC these days |
| 11:55 | lds | mtj[m]: : thanks :) |
| 11:55 | I did some tests with mariadb 10.6 everything seems ok, the only thing that bothers me is that : https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-28327 | |
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| 12:08 | tcohen | hola #koha |
| 12:08 | cait | hola |
| 12:22 | ashimema | Hi |
| 12:22 | wahanui | hello, ashimema |
| 12:37 | ashimema | would anyone mind if I stepped in and cleared the mreege request queue on the manual? |
| 12:50 | cait | not me for sure :) |
| 12:51 | * ashimema | is working through |
| 12:51 | tcohen | ashimema++ |
| 12:51 | ashimema | there are things in here that should really have gone in months ago |
| 12:51 | like carolines excellent work on the recalls docs | |
| 12:52 | cait | push them :) |
| 12:52 | apologize later ;) | |
| 12:52 | ashimema | 😛 |
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| 13:04 | ashimema | right... |
| 13:04 | so I'm merging to the current branch.. so far everything has made sense to do so | |
| 13:05 | so that's 22.05.. | |
| 13:05 | what I've not done is backported.. with the backlog, I'm not sure if it's worthwhile going through or not honestly.. | |
| 13:05 | I think we should draw a line and try and start the next cycle better regarding docs | |
| 13:06 | mtj | lds, the U22 jenkins tests are now using latest mariadb 10.6 (10.6.9) - but tests are not all passing (yet) |
| 13:07 | master_u22 is green :) https://jenkins.koha-community[…]b/Koha_Master_U22 | |
| 13:10 | lds, probably safer to go with ubuntu 20.04 LTS, and mariadb 10.3 | |
| 13:10 | https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/mariadb-server | |
| 13:25 | lds | mtj: ok :) |
| 13:26 | mtj: mariadb 10.6 is LTS that's why I would like to install it on my park https://endoflife.date/mariadb | |
| 13:29 | mtj | lds: yep, but you want to install a version of mariadb that everyone is using |
| 13:30 | ...rather than a newer version, that nobody is using | |
| 13:30 | lds | mtj: |
| 13:30 | mtj: I want to use a version that does not cause problems with koha :) | |
| 13:30 | and I would like it to be consistent with the other software in my fleet that use 10.6 | |
| 13:31 | 10.6 exist since 1 year and 2 months .... | |
| 13:34 | tuxayo | mtj: is the problem about t/db_dependent/Koha/Items.t ? |
| 13:34 | Or is this failure not related to Maria DB 10.6? | |
| 13:34 | hi lds :) | |
| 13:35 | mtj | tuxayo: i dont know either way |
| 13:36 | lds: 21.05 with maria 10.6 is passing | |
| 13:36 | https://jenkins.koha-community[…]b/Koha_21.05_U22/ | |
| 13:36 | tuxayo | found, it's bug 31473 |
| 13:36 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31473 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Test about bad OpacHiddenItems conf fragile |
| 13:37 | tuxayo | Which I backported to 21.05 which is why it's passing. |
| 13:37 | However it's just a test fix. | |
| 13:38 | So there seems to be no know bug with Koha it self is it? | |
| 13:39 | lds: «10.6 exist since 1 year and 2 months ....» It's been a while we have passing tests on 10.6 if I recall correcly. | |
| 13:41 | mtj: Unless there is a known issue with MariaDB 10.6, the situation looks like to be we are waiting for the 1st large hoster to deploy 10.6 | |
| 13:43 | > we have passing tests on 10.6 if I recall correcly. | |
| 13:43 | Ok, now it's even MariaDB 10.8 for main/master branch | |
| 13:44 | mtj | i guess we've been testing maria 10.6 on master-mdb-latest build, since july-2021 |
| 13:44 | .. until feb 2022 | |
| 13:45 | tuxayo | Thanks, I wasn't able to see past the august build in the CI |
| 13:46 | > .. until feb 2022 | |
| 13:46 | Image probably switched to 10.7 | |
| 13:46 | And then the Ubuntu 22.04 build took over I guess | |
| 13:46 | mtj | anyhoo.. u22 builds are now testing with maria-10.6, so we start testing it properly |
| 13:47 | yeah, bump to 10.7 on 08 Feb 2022 | |
| 13:47 | https://endoflife.date/mariadb | |
| 13:47 | tuxayo | I'm digging in the last 6 month of the tickets to find mariadb bugs and found nothing related to 10.6 |
| 13:48 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MariaDB#Versioning | |
| 13:48 | 10.7 | |
| 13:48 | 17 September 2021; 11 months ago | |
| 13:48 | The Wikipedia article and endoflife.date diverge | |
| 13:48 | ^^" | |
| 13:49 | lds | tuxayo: I deployed 10.6 on ephemeral instances |
| 13:49 | I did not notice any problems | |
| 13:49 | I'm going to pass the demos in 10.6 I'll let you know if we find any problems | |
| 13:49 | tuxayo | Maybe wikipedia counts from the Release Candidate date and not the |
| 13:49 | GA date | |
| 13:49 | lds: Don't expect to find any issue with basic usage of Koha | |
| 13:50 | If there is a 10.6 it should be sutble | |
| 13:50 | lds: oh, if that helps, a few months ago, I was running 10.6 locally when testing patches. | |
| 13:51 | I was running the mariadb lastest at that time | |
| 13:52 | mtj | tuxayo: looks like EOL website tracks 'stable' versions, not rc/alpha/beta |
| 13:52 | https://mariadb.com/kb/en/chan[…]riadb-106-series/ | |
| 13:52 | https://mariadb.com/kb/en/chan[…]riadb-107-series/ | |
| 13:53 | tuxayo | mtj: ok so wikipedia article tracks at less useful date, good to know |
| 13:53 | *a less | |
| 13:54 | mtj | lds, thanks for testing 10.6 - i think you will be ok :) |
| 13:59 | tuxayo | mtj: I give up digging tickets ^^ So no known issues, tests show no issue in Koha for 21.11, I was using mariadb 10.6 a few month back to test patch without finding something. |
| 13:59 | They can totally put it in a few moderate size production instances without really expecting trouble? What do you think? | |
| 13:59 | mtj | lds: the good news with maria10.6 is that its been tested with koha-master for 7-ish months |
| 14:02 | tuxayo: i think it looks promising :) | |
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| 14:08 | tuxayo | lds: So go for 10.6🚀 |
| 14:21 | You were not going to deploy your new containers to everyone anyway? | |
| 14:21 | lds: are you also upgrading to ubuntu 22.04? | |
| 14:22 | mtj «i think it is a good idea to have each OS build, running the DB version which is avaiable in it's repo» | |
| 14:22 | +1, need help to edit the CI jobs? | |
| 14:23 | * ashimema | hopes he hasn't broken gitlab... I now have rather a large number of manual builds running.. haha |
| 14:26 | tuxayo | How large? Should we expect power outages in Europe already? :P |
| 14:26 | ⚡️📈⚡️ | |
| 14:34 | mtj | tuxayo: no need to edit the jobs, build.pl handles the problem |
| 14:34 | tuxayo | Cool, is this new? |
| 14:35 | mtj | hmm, new-ish... |
| 14:35 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]nfig/build.pl#L37 | |
| 14:36 | aaah, we are missing u18 and u20 :) | |
| 14:42 | tuxayo | This is neat! |
| 14:44 | mtj: so about the sysreq wikipage it's not enough for OSes and DBMS to extract it from the CI? I hoped it would have been that simple ^^ | |
| 14:45 | cait | tcohen++ |
| 14:45 | tcohen | koha++ |
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| 15:01 | reiveune | bye |
| 15:02 | reiveune left #koha | |
| 15:22 | ashimema | https://koha-community.org/manual/22.11/en/html/ now actually goes somewhere 🙂 |
| 15:45 | tcohen | ahismema++ |
| 15:45 | ashimema++ | |
| 15:46 | ashimema | 😀 |
| 15:48 | caroline_catlady | ashimema++ good news indeed! Thanks for merging |
| 15:51 | ashimema | Pleasure.. sorry I failed to rebase one for you.. the others in was confident with but that one I couldn't quite work out |
| 15:51 | I'm contemplating standing for docs manager next cycle to help get this stuff more of a yellow brick road | |
| 15:56 | caroline_catlady | I was going to offer myself as tribute, but I think you're more reliable than me since you're always here. I get swamped in client migrations |
| 16:15 | cait | ashimema++ |
| 16:20 | have a nice weekend all! | |
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| 17:27 | tuxayo | caroline_catlady: hi :) |
| 17:27 | Do you know something about the controversial design points of bug 17015 that block it? | |
| 17:27 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17015 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Failed QA , New Koha Calendar |
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| 17:54 | caroline_catlady | tuxayo, not much. I know it is controversial and we basically abandoned it as part of community work. It is part of our own patch set since its inception, but I wasn't there at that time (I've "only" been with inlibro 5 years and this calendar has been around more than that lol!) so I don't know exactly what was the problem with the calendar to prompt a complete redesign. |
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| 18:44 | tuxayo | caroline_catlady thanks, which of your colleagues would know best about what blocks this? |
| 18:44 | caroline_catlady | probably blou/Philippe Blouin he's our head of dev |
| 19:10 | tuxayo | thanks! |
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