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| 06:13 | magnuse_ | \o/ |
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| 06:39 | alex_ | Bonjour |
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| 06:56 | cait1 | good morning #koha |
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| 07:08 | paulderscheid[m] | morning #koha |
| 08:00 | cait1 | morgen paulderscheid[m] |
| 08:00 | ;) | |
| 08:03 | paulderscheid[m] | Morgen cait1 |
| 08:04 | How do I enter the database in ktd with the default env vars? | |
| 08:07 | fridolin | paulderscheid[m]: yey, use koha-mysql kohadev |
| 08:07 | after a kshell | |
| 08:09 | paulderscheid[m] | Thank you |
| 08:09 | Entering the db container and using root apparently also works | |
| 08:09 | fridolin | sure |
| 08:10 | paulderscheid[m] | fridolin: This is more convenient though ^^ |
| 08:11 | fridolin | i bet you can build this in one command |
| 08:11 | i like having root access | |
| 08:11 | my computer is always sudo without password, whooo | |
| 08:12 | paulderscheid[m] | me too |
| 08:12 | no time for passwords ^^ | |
| 08:12 | fridolin | sudo fetch me a beer |
| 08:13 | paulderscheid[m] | 🍻 |
| 08:19 | How to I trigger a Zebra reindex in ktd? | |
| 08:21 | fridolin | heuuu koha-zebra-rebuild ... something |
| 08:23 | paulderscheid[m] | Thanks again |
| 08:23 | fridolin | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]oha-rebuild-zebra |
| 08:24 | paulderscheid[m] | It was koha-rebuild-zebra |
| 08:24 | I really have to bookmark this stuff | |
| 08:55 | cait1 | paulderscheid[m]: I often end up doing sudo koha- tabtabtab |
| 08:57 | paulderscheid[m] | That's also good advice ^^ |
| 09:16 | domm[m] | Quick question: If sending a mail (message_queue) via an external SMTP (i.e. not running on localhost) failed (eg due to network problems), would I find that in some (which?) logfile? |
| 09:16 | in message_queue table `failure_code` is null and `status` is `sent`, so I assume the send worked | |
| 09:18 | the problem was that one mail was sent ~15 times, and I now assume that there was some upstream network problems, but I'd like to make sure that Koha actually offloaded that mail to the external STMP server, and did so only once... | |
| 09:24 | ashimema | that's my understanding of the code domm, yes |
| 09:25 | we try to catch failures in the actual send routines.. but we don't look for bounce emails for example.. so your right.. if upstream has a problem we don't see it. | |
| 09:25 | domm[m] | yeah, which is fine, IMO |
| 09:25 | ashimema | agreed.. |
| 09:25 | domm[m] | as soon as one STMP server accepted the mail, it's that servers job to deliver it. once :-) |
| 09:26 | ashimema | adding client functionality.. which you'd need to grab bounces for example.. would be a lot of code for little benefit to us.. |
| 09:26 | domm[m] | bounce handling is maybe another issue, but not related to my actual bug report... |
| 09:26 | ashimema | I kinda like the idea of adding basic mail client functionality for other things... but I'm not confident I'll ever get the funding for it. |
| 09:26 | indeed | |
| 09:27 | once an SMTP server has accepted it koha assumes it's all worked from there. | |
| 09:27 | we do allow return-path and stuff.. so in theory you can direct bounce mail to a corporate address to be able to spot them already | |
| 09:28 | so whats your bug?.. the SMPT server didn't accept and we didn't give a meaningful failure for that? | |
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| 11:09 | marcelr | o/ |
| 12:23 | cait1 | ashimema: domm: we use the return-path to the bounces get into a library account |
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| 12:33 | anne | Hi, in normal view, I don't have any info. Title, author ... doesn't appear (whatever the record) - in Marc view title, authors etc. appear. How can I customize normal view so that this information appears ? |
| 12:34 | Oh I change language to English and it appeared ! But not in French view ! | |
| 12:46 | paulderscheid[m] | Hi, does someone have an idea what I'm doing wrong here? |
| 12:46 | https://paste.koha-community.org/13464 | |
| 12:46 | LMSCloud's version of koha btw | |
| 12:53 | cait1 | anne: the normal view is built using XSLT |
| 12:53 | maybe the translated XSLT Is broken, it can happen for example if html entities are entered in translations | |
| 12:54 | you could report a bug for your specific version if you are using standard and nothing was changed locally | |
| 12:55 | paulderscheid[m]: I have no idea... but what is _pp? | |
| 12:56 | anne | Thanks cait1. I was about to contact Koha Translation Project. Is it the right thing to do ? Or how can I report a bug ? (nothing changed locally) |
| 12:57 | cait1 | it might need fixing on the translation project, but maybe better to do a bug report or you could email koha-translate |
| 12:57 | tuxayo: do you know how to best get in touch with French translators? | |
| 12:58 | paulderscheid[m] | cait1: per page maybe? |
| 13:00 | cait1 | anne: which version do you use? |
| 13:01 | paulderscheid[m] | 21.05.14 |
| 13:01 | anne | 22.05.03 |
| 13:01 | paulderscheid[m] | oops ^^ |
| 13:01 | cait1 | anne: I'll have a quick look |
| 13:01 | caroline | anne: it is probably a in the translation files |
| 13:01 | is it fr-FR or fr-CA? | |
| 13:02 | cait1 | yes :) and MARC21 or UNIMARC? |
| 13:02 | and hi caroline! | |
| 13:02 | caroline | hi cait1! :) |
| 13:03 | anne | fr-Fr and Unimarc |
| 13:03 | cait1 | caroline: that was my suspicion too - was going to see if i can find it - still not speaking French |
| 13:03 | do you want/can you take over? | |
| 13:04 | It looks like htere are a bunch in the MARC21 file: https://translate.koha-communi[…]sp&sfields=source,target | |
| 13:05 | but UNIMARC appears ok | |
| 13:05 | caroline | cait1, sure I can look |
| 13:06 | cait1 | thx! |
| 13:06 | caroline: does your IRC client light up when we say French? :) | |
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| 13:07 | caroline | lol no! I just happened to look at that moment. But it should maybe :) |
| 13:12 | there are 12 " " in fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po | |
| 13:12 | anne, do you have access to your po files? | |
| 13:12 | cait1 | hm bad search on my part, thx for double checking! |
| 13:13 | caroline | I downloaded the file from https://translate.koha-communi[…]/export/22.05/fr/ |
| 13:13 | It's always a bit late compared to the pootle interface | |
| 13:15 | cait1 | maybe someone fixed it? .04 was just released |
| 13:17 | caroline | anne, if you have access to the po files, you can correct the in fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po and reinstall (or reupdate? I'm never sure which does which) the translations, it should correct your problem... I will correct them on Pootle so if you don't have access, maybe it will be corrected in your next update |
| 13:18 | anne | caroline : thanks, I have root access to the server, I'm looking for the location of this file |
| 13:19 | caroline | ugh, nvm I can't correct them bc I'm not part of that language team... |
| 13:19 | anne, mine are in misc/translator/po/ | |
| 13:21 | cait1 | caroline: i could add you... |
| 13:22 | caroline | I was going to ask frido maybe |
| 13:22 | cait1 | wrong time for him I think, was hoping for tuxayo earlier :) |
| 13:22 | but if you are ok with fixing I could give you permission | |
| 13:23 | actually I just did | |
| 13:35 | marcelr | ashimema: always glad to assist :) |
| 13:36 | ashimema | ? |
| 13:36 | marcelr | qaing your patch set |
| 13:43 | cait1 | which one? :) |
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| 14:03 | ashimema | awesome, thanks |
| 14:05 | anne | I corrected fr-FR-marc_UNIMARC.po and with sudo koha-translate -u fr-FR it worked ;) Merci Caroline ! |
| 14:08 | cait1 | caroline++ |
| 14:08 | anne++ :) | |
| 14:08 | wajasu | my librarian was looking at course reserves. in the opac i have a biblio for ISBN 0140448942 which displays details fine. it has "Online resources: Table of contents only | Contributor bigraphical information | Publisher description" with each URL pulling up the external page correctly. |
| 14:09 | * cait1 | waits for the bug :) |
| 14:11 | wajasu | no if i go to course reserves, and select that book, I have "Record Url" link. It tries to take all three URLs which it takes from the biblioitems.url field and doesn't separate them for the link. |
| 14:12 | i think it needs to break it apart using the pipe character and provide 3 links. | |
| 14:13 | https://dallaslibrary.rts.edu/[…]iblionumber=20275 works | |
| 14:14 | https://dallaslibrary.rts.edu/[…]ls.pl?course_id=5 doesn't | |
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| 14:16 | wajasu | Of course the code in the opac-detail uses GetMarcUrls frmothe marc record (856) |
| 14:18 | the course-details grabs it from the cr.biblioitems.url and whatever built the url column each into one. | |
| 14:19 | cait1 | wajasu: there is an existing bug for that |
| 14:19 | that probably coudl use some input | |
| 14:20 | I remember not being uappy with it using Reord URL as we have so many on the ebooks... | |
| 14:20 | bug 20502 | |
| 14:20 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20502 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Record URL broken, when there is more than one 856 on the record |
| 14:20 | wajasu | i am not sure if it needs to get the marc record and use getMarcUrls, to know the context to display a title just as in opac-detail, or or parse and provide three non contextual links. |
| 14:20 | cait1 | opac-detail uses XSLT |
| 14:21 | it dosn't use getMarcUrls | |
| 14:22 | wajasu | well. i am on 22.0.03 and see code in bootstrap/en/modules/opac-detail.tt and course-reserves-detail.tt or such. |
| 14:25 | marcelr | bug 30571 ready for testing. Pleas try |
| 14:25 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30571 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Table z3950servers: Make host, syntax and encoding NOT NULL |
| 14:25 | thd | tcohen: Are you around today with some time to test wiki migration to Canasta? Sorry that as I reported yesterday morning the power supply connector on my laptop developed a bad connection. I was back on IRC later with swapped hardware. |
| 14:28 | anne | caroline : an other bug I think, when I am looking for a book, in research page, I got : "Exemplaires en consultation sur place : Not for loan" Not for loan is not translated (it's not in fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po but I'm not sure if it's OK or not ; I don't know how to fix it anyway) (22.05.03) |
| 14:29 | wajasu | ok. i see bug. couldn't find it. thanks. I think that we could get the marc record and code it like it is in opac-details, as jonathan druart mentioned in comment1. it's a small like of books for a course, so it's not much overhead. |
| 15:18 | caroline | anne, sorry I was in a meeting... glad the translation fix worked! I'll check for the "Not for loan" part. It might be in fr-FR-opac-bootstrap |
| 15:52 | cait1 | anne: maybe it takes it from the NOT_LOAN authorised value |
| 15:52 | so from the database - worth a test | |
| 15:53 | wajasu: we probably could, but I don't htinke we have the logic the XSLt does as a perl component yet | |
| 15:53 | waht you see might in opac-detail might be related to the old non-xslt views, they are no longer in use | |
| 16:00 | anne | cait1 : Thank you for looking. I saw that in normal view/holdings the translation "Not for loan" worked (but not in research page). But I have to go ... |
| 16:19 | cait1 | got to leave as well :) bye all! |
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