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| 07:16 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 08:13 | fridolin1 | in 2 hours meeting https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_9_March_2022 |
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| 08:47 | Joubu | mtj[m], fridolin: test suite is failing because of: DBI Connection failed: install_driver(SQLite) failed: Can't locate DBD/SQLite.pm |
| 08:48 | fridolin | ah i just sent an email about that |
| 08:49 | linked to Bug 29881 | |
| 08:49 | ? | |
| 08:49 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29881 blocker, P1 - high, ---, mtj, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove SQLite2 dependency |
| 08:49 | Joubu | mtj[m]: do we need bug 30209 to fix it? |
| 08:49 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30209 blocker, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Signed Off , Upgrade 'libdbd-sqlite2-perl' package to 'libdbd-sqlite3-perl' |
| 08:51 | fridolin | why does it work on D12 ? |
| 08:52 | and i dont reproduce on KTD running D11 | |
| 08:55 | Joubu | did you pull the latest? |
| 08:56 | fridolin | ahhh nope |
| 09:04 | ok so its something for mtj | |
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| 09:08 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 30190: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org[…]de6b67a049a56a22b> |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 30128: DBrev 21.12.00.017 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]66727fe46efb431ff> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 30128: DBIC Schema update <https://git.koha-community.org[…]704dc2bfc8c916764> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 15594: (QA follow-up) Move span to publisher name, fix whitespace, only add space... <https://git.koha-community.org[…]6cca93a3524f72df0> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 15594: Class in now unchanged after the patch <https://git.koha-community.org[…]cb37c44f54fe1983c> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 30190: Green buttons turn blue for a second when clicking them <https://git.koha-community.org[…]58a6cb72ebb4dee64> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 22993: Handle default messaging preferences during patron creation from API <https://git.koha-community.org[…]322f9960e0b318365> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 22993: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org[…]65da7ef3761f00280> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 29136: (QA follow-up) missing filters <https://git.koha-community.org[…]6a205ed3cb02fb983> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 30128: Change language_subtag_registry.description to varchar(255) <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ec65a05ecbc13316f> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 29136: Don't redirect if the whole set is > 1 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]4b78afdb69b452aeb> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 29136: Ajaxify the patron search when placing a hold <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ad03750f558b5e223> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 29771: Scalar context for split <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d51ee745580ec34f4> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 29771: Remove trivial cases <https://git.koha-community.org[…]27ff8d7175b7a6095> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 15594: preserve sequence of 260 subfields in (staff) detail page <https://git.koha-community.org[…]24cd884b179a26605> | |
| 09:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 15594: preserve sequence of 260 subfields in detail page <https://git.koha-community.org[…]75f0a5f2051ef8e79> | |
| 09:22 | mtj | hi fridolin, bug 30209 should fix the master builds |
| 09:22 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30209 blocker, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Signed Off , Upgrade 'libdbd-sqlite2-perl' package to 'libdbd-sqlite3-perl' |
| 09:24 | mtj | Joubu: ^ |
| 09:28 | fridolin | mtj ah oki, meanwhile could be restore libdbd-sqlite2-perl in KTD ? |
| 09:29 | see that libdbd-sqlite3-perl is not in D9 | |
| 09:29 | but i'm asking for obsolete it | |
| 09:30 | davewood | I want to add JS to addbiblio.pl/addbiblio.tt ... whats the recommended way? is there a specific dir where i can put a JS file and it will be included? |
| 09:32 | mtj | fridolin: deb9 version is available.. https://packages.debian.org/st[…]bdbd-sqlite3-perl |
| 09:33 | Joubu | davewood: use the system preference "IntranetUserJS" |
| 09:33 | mtj | bug 29881 has broken the builds |
| 09:33 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29881 blocker, P1 - high, ---, mtj, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove SQLite2 dependency |
| 09:34 | Joubu | each view has its own id, you can use it to apply js to only the page you want |
| 09:34 | mtj | ... but 30209 fixes it |
| 09:35 | fridolin | ahhh D9 is stretch, not jessie |
| 09:36 | davewood | Joubu: for real? I'd rather do it somewhere in the filesystem specific to this page. |
| 09:36 | Joubu: ah. you mentioned the page id | |
| 09:37 | still, is there no way to do it via the filesystem? | |
| 09:37 | Joubu | davewood: no, everything is stored in the DB, to ease backup |
| 09:37 | or you can write a plugin | |
| 09:40 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11_CPAN build #550: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ter_D11_CPAN/550/ |
| 09:41 | davewood | Joubu: I will checkout plugins. thank you |
| 09:42 | Joubu | davewood: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Koha_Plugin_Hooks |
| 09:42 | search for "intranet_js" | |
| 09:43 | mtj | hi Joubu, fridolin - i think we could roll back bz-29881 on stable and lower |
| 09:44 | we might have accidentally broken the create_koc_db.pl script on prod systems | |
| 09:45 | fridolin | ah we can do this with sec release maybe |
| 09:45 | tuxayo: there ? | |
| 09:46 | mtj | i dont thik we have an tests for create_koc_db.pl, so jenkins may not have detected it |
| 09:46 | any | |
| 09:51 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11_My8 build #764: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ster_D11_My8/764/ |
| 09:52 | mtj | the fix is easy - admins can can run 'create_koc_db.pl' with --sqlite3 arg, not --sqlite2 |
| 09:53 | if we revert bz-29881, we can leave koha-stable using create_koc_db.pl with sqlite2 | |
| 09:55 | fridolin | ok we can tell taht in coming dev meeting |
| 09:55 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_9_March_2022 in 5 | |
| 09:55 | tuxayo | hi #koha :) |
| 09:57 | fridolin | we talk revert bz-29881 in stable |
| 10:00 | Joubu | @later tell oleonard is there a plan to upgrade the bootstrap version for the staff interface? Ideally v5 :) |
| 10:00 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:01 | tuxayo | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022 |
| 10:01 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Mar 9 10:01:15 2022 UTC. The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 10:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 10:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022) | |
| 10:01 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_9_march_2022' |
| 10:01 | tuxayo | #topic Introductions |
| 10:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022) | |
| 10:02 | tuxayo | #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo Company Limited, France |
| 10:03 | qa_team? | |
| 10:03 | qa_team is cait, joubu, tuxayo, marcelr, kidclamp, khall, tcohen, ashimema, nugged, kohaputti, petrova | |
| 10:03 | rmaints? | |
| 10:03 | i heard rmaints was khall_ , AndrewFH, wainui and tuxayo | |
| 10:03 | ashimema | sorry, just come out of another meeting |
| 10:03 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 10:03 | fridolin | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France |
| 10:03 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK |
| 10:05 | tuxayo | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_9_March_2022 Today's agenda |
| 10:06 | #topic Announcements | |
| 10:06 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022) | |
| 10:07 | ashimema | hackfest? |
| 10:07 | Joubu | refresh the meeting page, I've added some bullets |
| 10:07 | fridolin | yey |
| 10:07 | Paul sent a mail about it | |
| 10:08 | Joubu | I've got permission from organiser to bring some homemade beers to drink after the work day ;) |
| 10:08 | tuxayo | ^^ |
| 10:08 | fridolin | woooo coooool |
| 10:08 | Joubu | I think that's the most important thing I had to say today |
| 10:08 | ashimema | 🙂 |
| 10:08 | fridolin | ;) |
| 10:09 | cait1 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 10:09 | fridolin | So HackFest in Marseille is confirmed, see email from Paul and inscriptions doc |
| 10:10 | welcome cait1 | |
| 10:10 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U21 build #110: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U21/110/ |
| 10:10 | tuxayo | #info Hackfest registration: email paul.poulain AT biblibre DOT com |
| 10:10 | fridolin | i'll be there :D |
| 10:11 | tuxayo | #info KohaCon 2022: In Lawrence, Kansas by koha-US. Please fill survey for attendance to help pick venue size |
| 10:12 | cait1 | do we have a link for the survey yet? I thought it was not published |
| 10:12 | tuxayo | #info it should be (or should come) in the general mailing list |
| 10:12 | cait1 | ah :) |
| 10:13 | tuxayo | #info KohaCon: the selected dates are September 20-23, 2022 |
| 10:13 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U20 build #323: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U20/323/ |
| 10:14 | tuxayo | #info Koha Community Challenge https://runsignup.com/Race/CA/[…]SpringintoFitness |
| 10:14 | #info Bug Squashing Event in May: https://bywatersolutions.com/e[…]g-squashing-event | |
| 10:15 | #info In France there will be the a meeting event in May in Orléans https://koha-fr.org/symposium-2022 | |
| 10:15 | I think that's all! | |
| 10:15 | cait1 | that's a lot :) |
| 10:15 | ashimema | 🙂 |
| 10:15 | fridolin | yep nice to see movement |
| 10:15 | tuxayo | #topic Update from the Release manager (22.05) |
| 10:15 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (22.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022) | |
| 10:15 | cait1 | community++ |
| 10:15 | fridolin | and IRL events |
| 10:16 | ok me | |
| 10:16 | tuxayo | yes :D |
| 10:16 | fridolin | Behavior with AnonymousPatron Bug 30007 |
| 10:16 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Make ->anonymize methods throw an exception if AnonymousPatron is not set |
| 10:16 | tuxayo | fridolin: the mic is your's, you can use #info |
| 10:16 | fridolin | just to expose that this means no anonymise with NULL as borrowernumber anymore |
| 10:16 | cait1 | I am not sure that worked in all places beore |
| 10:17 | fridolin | indeed, tomas said that |
| 10:17 | cait1 | there are several older bugs dealing with problems with the anon-user not being set and we have added a warning on System information tab |
| 10:17 | fridolin | i'm ok with the change but we must alert admin on that |
| 10:17 | alohabot | 🎁 🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo 🍙🌶🥭 |
| 10:17 | tuxayo | mtj++ |
| 10:18 | fridolin | #info Beware behavior around AnonymousPatron with Bug 30007 pushed |
| 10:18 | cait1 | for everything user side a message would be nice - I thik we do that for the checkout privacy feature in OPAC and probably other places |
| 10:19 | fridolin | yep it will be more for cronjob batch_anonymise.pl so admins |
| 10:19 | sys admins | |
| 10:19 | cait1 | so in theory hopefully the exception would not happen? |
| 10:19 | ok | |
| 10:19 | fridolin | indeed |
| 10:19 | cait1 | I am not sure, but i think the gui anonymize tool already had a warning |
| 10:19 | fridolin | and when syspref fixed the missing are done |
| 10:20 | if every one agrees its cool | |
| 10:20 | long live the Anonymous ;) | |
| 10:20 | cait1 | might be worth checking the GUI tool for the functionlity does give some nice info |
| 10:21 | fridolin | ok i'll test |
| 10:21 | cait1 | bug 6756 suggests it did indeed use to workw ithout the anon user |
| 10:21 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6756 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, CLOSED FIXED, Patron anonymizing tool reports false success in anonymous patron not defined |
| 10:22 | fridolin | #action fridolin checking the GUI tool for alter on AnonymousPatron |
| 10:23 | about https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]d_recommendations | |
| 10:23 | i see we have Ubuntu 16.04. But there is no Jenkins. | |
| 10:23 | ashimema | I kinda feel like we aught to be setting up such a user on install automagically |
| 10:23 | tuxayo | For 21.11 |
| 10:23 | fridolin | may we drop for this cycle ? |
| 10:23 | ashimema | but hey, that would be too easy right 😛 |
| 10:23 | Joubu | 6756 is an old one :) |
| 10:24 | fridolin | ashimema: indeed, we must have a user that will not be deleted |
| 10:24 | Joubu | you cannot remove it already I think |
| 10:25 | fridolin | with delete_patron.pl you can if its not a librarian |
| 10:25 | and expired | |
| 10:25 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1893: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 16 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1893/ |
| 10:25 | Joubu | "Unable to delete patron that is set as AnonymousPatron" |
| 10:25 | on the UI you cannot | |
| 10:25 | fridolin | good |
| 10:26 | maybe we should skip it in delete_patron.pl | |
| 10:26 | Joubu | we shouldn't deal with incorrect configuration, I thought we agreed on that already |
| 10:27 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master build #1939: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 17 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/1939/ |
| 10:27 | Joubu | if anonpatron is not set correct you get a warning on the about page, and it can explode elsewhere |
| 10:27 | fridolin | but if its defined but not in staff and expired ? |
| 10:27 | cait1 | i like it better when things not explode, but I undertand it being easier |
| 10:28 | Joubu | we should continue the discussion later, and move one. Or the meeting won't fit in 1h... |
| 10:28 | cait1 | ok |
| 10:28 | fridolin | we should not delete it with CLI script |
| 10:28 | Joubu | yes, I agree with that fridolin |
| 10:28 | cait1 | +1 |
| 10:28 | fridolin | ok i create a bug report |
| 10:29 | #action fridolin create bug report for skipping AnonymousPatron from delete_patrons.pl | |
| 10:29 | tuxayo: "for 21.11" ? | |
| 10:29 | tuxayo | great thanks fridolin |
| 10:29 | only 21.11 doesn't have CI for Ubuntu 16.04 | |
| 10:29 | And master | |
| 10:29 | ashimema | we throw an exception in the object.. so it must be direct SQL somewhere if it's getting deleted |
| 10:29 | https://git.koha-community.org[…]ha/Patron.pm#L375 | |
| 10:29 | anywho | |
| 10:29 | fridolin | ok so drop support >= 21.11 ? |
| 10:30 | ahhh ashimema that must be new , thanks | |
| 10:30 | tuxayo | I guess we could |
| 10:31 | ashimema | 🙂 |
| 10:31 | fridolin | we at Biblibre have mandatory upgraded to Bionic 20.04 for 20.11 |
| 10:32 | an 22.04 is comming (actually beta exists) | |
| 10:32 | ashimema | right.. so do we need a few more 'retired' logos on https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
| 10:32 | as well as the wiki getting updated of course 🙂 | |
| 10:33 | fridolin | ah we dont have OS in HEA ? |
| 10:34 | tuxayo | no |
| 10:34 | fridolin | that would be usefull |
| 10:34 | at least perl version | |
| 10:34 | tuxayo | #action tuxayo update wiki to remove ub16.04 support for Koha 21.11 (and check if MariaDB versions should change also) |
| 10:35 | ashimema | wowsers LTS really is L in Ubuntu land |
| 10:35 | tuxayo | I'm not sure 16.04 is publicly supported. (their extended security maintennace) It might actually be EOL. |
| 10:36 | ashimema | indeed |
| 10:36 | I agree we should officially remove our support though 🙂 | |
| 10:36 | tuxayo | fridolin: anything else from you? |
| 10:36 | fridolin | nope continue |
| 10:36 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D12 build #94: SUCCESS in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D12/94/ |
| 10:37 | tuxayo | Support might have been a copy paste from 21.05 |
| 10:37 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 10:37 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022) | |
| 10:37 | tuxayo | rmaints? |
| 10:37 | ashimema | I'm surprised we're supporting D9 still to honestly |
| 10:37 | tuxayo | i heard rmaints was khall_ , AndrewFH, wainui and tuxayo |
| 10:37 | ashimema: Koha_19.11_D8 is still enabled :P | |
| 10:38 | ashimema | lol |
| 10:38 | fridolin | i've thought dropping also D9, but it is OEL in june 2022 |
| 10:38 | tuxayo | 20.11.x: nothing to report |
| 10:38 | ashimema | LTS is, yes |
| 10:38 | Joubu | 22.05 will drop D9, see bug 30194 |
| 10:38 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30194 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Update required JSON::Validator version |
| 10:38 | ashimema | standard EOL was 07/07/2020 |
| 10:39 | excellent | |
| 10:39 | fridolin | mtj whas speaking reverting Bug 29881 in stable |
| 10:39 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29881 blocker, P1 - high, ---, mtj, RESOLVED FIXED, Remove SQLite2 dependency |
| 10:39 | fridolin | maybe include in this month release |
| 10:40 | we should reopen the bug and confirm RMaints | |
| 10:41 | tuxayo | Don't hesitate to email all of us RMaints for these kind of patches to be sure it's not missed if it's for this month's release |
| 10:41 | moving on? | |
| 10:41 | ashimema | go for it |
| 10:41 | tuxayo | #topic Updates from the QA team |
| 10:41 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022) | |
| 10:41 | tuxayo | qa_team? |
| 10:42 | ashimema | cait still here? |
| 10:42 | tuxayo | qa_team is cait, joubu, tuxayo, marcelr, kidclamp, khall, tcohen, ashimema, nugged, kohaputti, petrova |
| 10:42 | ashimema | grr.. I really wish we had the bots still |
| 10:42 | tuxayo++ for standing in for them :P# | |
| 10:42 | tuxayo | XD |
| 10:42 | fridolin | tuxayo+++ |
| 10:42 | ashimema | QA numbers feel low to me this month so far |
| 10:43 | * ashimema | hasn't managed to spend much time |
| 10:43 | tuxayo | @later tell rangi we miss wahanui <3 |
| 10:43 | huginn | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:44 | tuxayo | last call to review Bug 19532 , it will be pass QA this week if no one find anything off. |
| 10:44 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha |
| 10:44 | * ashimema | sits on hands |
| 10:45 | tuxayo | aleisha++ |
| 10:45 | marcelr++ | |
| 10:45 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #549: STILL UNSTABLE in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/549/ |
| 10:45 | tuxayo | moving on? |
| 10:45 | ashimema | yup |
| 10:45 | tuxayo | #topic Actions from last meeting |
| 10:45 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022) | |
| 10:46 | tuxayo | «shall we share the slides with Koha General? » |
| 10:46 | ??? | |
| 10:46 | fridolin | Staff interface work ? |
| 10:46 | tuxayo | Ah, GUI design? |
| 10:46 | ashimema | this was the UX work |
| 10:46 | yup | |
| 10:46 | did they not get shared already? | |
| 10:47 | cait1 | i think only here |
| 10:47 | Or I am not sure actually - there were a lot of comments from different peopl eon the slides, but I don't remember an email | |
| 10:47 | and sorry, got called away! | |
| 10:47 | fridolin | i dont see it in ML |
| 10:48 | ashimema | me either now I look |
| 10:48 | tuxayo | fridolin: "mediawiki blame" (tool doesn't exists) points to you for the addition of the topic to the agenda :P |
| 10:48 | Joubu | https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]ruary/057429.html |
| 10:48 | ashimema | aha, well found |
| 10:48 | fridolin | ok thanks Joubu ^ |
| 10:49 | next | |
| 10:49 | tuxayo | great thanks |
| 10:49 | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) | |
| 10:49 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022) | |
| 10:50 | tuxayo | We have anonymize/anonymise ; missing in https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology |
| 10:50 | ashimema | We user american spelling right.. so it should be z |
| 10:50 | cait1 | i think that is covered by standardizing on AE |
| 10:51 | fridolin | there is batch_anonymise.pl |
| 10:51 | ashimema | mm |
| 10:51 | tuxayo | rg --glob '!{*.po}' -i "anonymise" | wc -l |
| 10:51 | 60 | |
| 10:51 | cait1 | no need to list all of those |
| 10:51 | tuxayo | rg --glob '!{*.po}' -i "anonymize" | wc -l |
| 10:51 | 163 | |
| 10:51 | cait1 | some of those might be file names |
| 10:51 | fridolin | and since tehre is pseudonymize |
| 10:51 | tuxayo | batch_anonymise.pl is the only find with "anon" in the name |
| 10:51 | ashimema | I see no problem adding it to that list.. but I also agree it's covered by AE rules |
| 10:52 | QA spell checks should be spotting it.. shouldn't they | |
| 10:52 | (though I found my spelling stuff wasn't working the other day and never got to the bottom of it) | |
| 10:52 | tuxayo | pseudonymize: good catch. Only the "ze" ending is used |
| 10:53 | fridolin | it iz ze good form then ;) |
| 10:53 | create a bug report as start point ? | |
| 10:54 | tuxayo | yep |
| 10:54 | Joubu | is that really high priority? |
| 10:54 | fridolin | nope |
| 10:54 | tuxayo | Ah, it's about terminology |
| 10:54 | right | |
| 10:55 | fridolin | but i was puzzled when searching for anonymize and seeing i dont find the script |
| 10:55 | Joubu | people will have to update their cronjob, etc. |
| 10:55 | it's work for us, for sysops, etc. What is the win here? | |
| 10:55 | tuxayo | Yes, renaming the cronjob might not be worth it |
| 10:55 | fridolin | upgrade can do that no ? |
| 10:55 | tuxayo | It's manual work |
| 10:56 | fridolin | ok so just add to Terminology |
| 10:56 | tuxayo | To renamed in the system cron config |
| 10:56 | *to rename | |
| 10:56 | no objection to add it to Terminology? | |
| 10:56 | Joubu | it's handled in the Terminology already |
| 10:56 | "American English" | |
| 10:56 | cait1 | fridolin: no |
| 10:56 | Joubu | we won't list all the s/z words |
| 10:56 | tuxayo | LOL it is indeed already |
| 10:57 | Ah It's just ashimema that added it now | |
| 10:57 | fridolin | cool, so closed |
| 10:58 | tuxayo | next |
| 10:58 | Bug 30063 - Make the main patron search use the /patrons REST API route | |
| 10:58 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Make the main patron search use the /patrons REST API route |
| 10:58 | Joubu | from me, I have added 3 topics here |
| 10:58 | cait1 | I haven't had time for testing bigger patches lately :( |
| 10:58 | Joubu | I have been working on the rewrite of *all* patron searches we have in Koha. |
| 10:58 | They are now using the REST API route and the different features brought by the DT wrapper. | |
| 10:58 | bug 30063 | |
| 10:58 | fridolin | i just pushed the on on reserves, its great |
| 10:58 | * ashimema | aims to get back to that, and would love to see it finalised at or before hackfest |
| 10:59 | Joubu | there is a remote branch for this last bug report, with all the children applied |
| 10:59 | I will try to maintain it up-to-date | |
| 10:59 | cait1 | I hope to make some time during hackfest to virtually join you all |
| 10:59 | Joubu | It's a goal we have been aiming for years, I really would like to see it receive the love it deserves :) |
| 10:59 | * ashimema | needs to submit a list of stuff I want to get done and how I intend to do it to the boss for my hackfest submission |
| 10:59 | ashimema | that one is on the list |
| 10:59 | Joubu | There is one known bug, but it's an existing bug already |
| 10:59 | cait1 | but we have big migration going live next week, so not sure yet |
| 10:59 | fridolin | Joubu++ |
| 10:59 | Joubu | which is not trivial to fix |
| 11:00 | The patch tree is quite huge but it's easy to test, and the code is much easier to read after than before (it's getting rid of C4::DT::Members!) | |
| 11:00 | Any questions? | |
| 11:00 | the known-bug-tricky-to-fix is bug 30165 | |
| 11:00 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30165 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Several q parameters break the filters |
| 11:01 | tuxayo | in the patch message: «* sticky header - Does not work (?)» |
| 11:01 | fridolin | do you need big db tests ? |
| 11:01 | Joubu | it's fixed later |
| 11:01 | no | |
| 11:01 | ashimema | I've been working with tcohen on the API q param related stuff |
| 11:01 | He's done some awesome work | |
| 11:01 | tuxayo | fixed: ok, no question then ^^ |
| 11:02 | Joubu | ha, and I wrote plenty of tests btw |
| 11:02 | tuxayo | yay |
| 11:02 | fridolin | marvelous |
| 11:02 | Joubu | ok, next then |
| 11:02 | ashimema | Great work Joubu |
| 11:02 | Joubu++ | |
| 11:02 | Joubu | * React vs Vue vs nothing |
| 11:03 | I wrote two versions of the admin (CRUD) cities view, in React and Vue. | |
| 11:03 | bug 30225 | |
| 11:03 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30225 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Rewrite cities admin view in Vue |
| 11:03 | Joubu | bue 30160 |
| 11:03 | bug 30160 | |
| 11:03 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30160 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Rewrite cities admin view in React |
| 11:03 | Joubu | The idea was to provide an overview of what is possible and what is the minimum code required to make them work |
| 11:03 | I would like to use one of them to start the ERM project | |
| 11:03 | It would be nice to integrate a new tech, and it will be easier as we are starting "from scratch" | |
| 11:04 | However the sponsors are a bit reluctant if we don't reach a consensus (very) soon | |
| 11:04 | tuxayo | (30063 has UI tests, great!) |
| 11:04 | ashimema | That's another on my hackfest list.. would like to sit down together and review it with the intention of making a decision there |
| 11:04 | Joubu | So basically it's either now or never. |
| 11:04 | tuxayo | ERM? |
| 11:04 | ashimema | Electronic resource management |
| 11:04 | Joubu | next topic |
| 11:04 | ashimema | Like coral, but in koha |
| 11:04 | tuxayo | :o |
| 11:04 | Joubu | I am all for Vue now i think |
| 11:05 | questions? | |
| 11:05 | ashimema | oh cool |
| 11:05 | Joubu | action? |
| 11:05 | ashimema | I know vue better than I know react at this point.. but I don't know either well enough to really advocate |
| 11:05 | I want a feel for 'How quick can I, and therefore hopefully others, get up to speed and productive with it' | |
| 11:06 | Joubu | there are plenty of great tutorials, videos, etc. |
| 11:06 | web is full of examples | |
| 11:06 | and I wrote examples with code you know, Koha | |
| 11:06 | ashimema | it's all about learning curve and productivity to me.. rather than getting bogged down in the gory technical details... certainly for Koha anyways |
| 11:06 | yeah.. | |
| 11:06 | Joubu | so it's just a matter of time |
| 11:06 | tuxayo | any takeaway on vue vs react from bug 15522 ? |
| 11:06 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Patch doesn't apply , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
| 11:06 | cait1 | I thnk maybe we could give a strong recommendation from hackfest |
| 11:06 | ashimema | do we think we have enough core devs at hackfest to make a decision there? |
| 11:07 | cait1 | and put it to official vote after? |
| 11:07 | and also please thnk about starting dev documentation early on and keep it updated | |
| 11:07 | Joubu | I need to start to code now actually |
| 11:07 | so I am going to start with Vue | |
| 11:07 | and come with a plan at the hackfest | |
| 11:08 | but the decision will be made on my side already | |
| 11:08 | ashimema | excellent |
| 11:08 | cait1 | i thnk that would work but for moving it into a coding guideline that it is allowed/can be used it ight be nice to have a meeting vote on |
| 11:08 | Joubu | and nobody is against one or the other anyway |
| 11:08 | cait1 | i don't think we wil get a veto |
| 11:08 | as long as we don't seay we rewrite everthing to it tomororw :) | |
| 11:08 | * ashimema | can sway the sponsors in either direction Joubu.. I trust your knowledge, especially now you've clearly dug into both options |
| 11:09 | Joubu | cait1: that's the thing, cait1. It will only be used for totally new code here |
| 11:09 | using full REST API routes for CRUD operations | |
| 11:09 | fridolin | makes sens |
| 11:09 | Joubu | and a framework to make thing smooth on the UI |
| 11:09 | existing code won't be touched, and nobody will be forced to use/read/write code in this new module | |
| 11:10 | ok, so, ERM | |
| 11:10 | * ashimema | throws full weight behind Joubu here.. we have all the right people on side I feel |
| 11:10 | Joubu | Not much to say yet |
| 11:10 | but code has been written already, and more are coming | |
| 11:10 | We will certainly communicate more about it in the next weeks. If you want to join us, just drop us an email! | |
| 11:10 | tuxayo | > and nobody is against one or the other anyway |
| 11:10 | I don't remember something blocking for one or another in the previous Vue vs React talk when following 15522 | |
| 11:10 | ashimema | is there a branch? |
| 11:10 | Joubu | https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]ruary/057447.html |
| 11:10 | ashimema: nothing pushed yet | |
| 11:11 | it's all dirty locally | |
| 11:11 | and that's the thing. | |
| 11:11 | ashimema | I think the biggest block has generally been a lack of knowledge tuxayo |
| 11:11 | all good | |
| 11:11 | just poke me when you want someone to look | |
| 11:11 | Joubu | to explain a bit, I have started with the "agreements", that can have several periods, users, etc. |
| 11:11 | I have started written the "old way", with jQuery ugly code to add/remove/modify the block | |
| 11:12 | it's just crazy to continue like that | |
| 11:12 | cait1 | Joubu: i know, sorry, getting distracted: I just want to add it to guidelines too and agree we can do that after you started/not epecting issues |
| 11:12 | Joubu | so I am rewriting everything now using Vue, and we will see if it's a win, or if we don't continue |
| 11:12 | cait1 | it#s just somethign we chould also communicate/document - that's all ) |
| 11:13 | Joubu | yes |
| 11:13 | that's all from me | |
| 11:14 | fridolin | tanks for the news |
| 11:14 | tuxayo | So the plan is no issues for Joubu to experiment. And with the feedback propose a guideline that any completely new interactive UI must be with Vue? |
| 11:14 | ashimema | there is a wiki page for anyone interested https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ERM |
| 11:15 | and specs are being written and refined regularly by the sponsors | |
| 11:15 | tuxayo | interactive UI => dynamic UI, i don't know how to say it well |
| 11:15 | cait1 | i thik we can cross the 'all have to' bridge a little later |
| 11:16 | tuxayo | #info plan for and ERM in Koha https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ERM https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]ruary/057447.html |
| 11:16 | cait1 | for now it's important we'll accept the Vue based code |
| 11:16 | tuxayo | ok |
| 11:16 | right because it's a big dep | |
| 11:17 | So, good for this topic? | |
| 11:17 | ashimema | I reckon so |
| 11:17 | tuxayo | #topic Review of coding guidelines |
| 11:17 | Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022) | |
| 11:17 | tuxayo | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=30072#c16 |
| 11:17 | huginn | Bug 30072: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to oldstable , Add more holds hooks |
| 11:18 | fridolin | "This works well and uses the reference passing style we now require (Is there a coding guideline for this yet?)" sais ashimema |
| 11:18 | tuxayo | Is that about "reference passing style" ? |
| 11:18 | ashimema | ah yes |
| 11:18 | I didn't check | |
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| 11:18 | fridolin | is there an existing guide line, do we need one ? |
| 11:19 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11_MDB_Latest build #816: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]1_MDB_Latest/816/ |
| 11:19 | ashimema | I reckon so.. |
| 11:19 | after a whole series of bugs we settled on passing references to the hook calls | |
| 11:20 | so that plugins run in a loop that use the same hook can get the relevant updated data | |
| 11:20 | Joubu | code won't work anyway, not sure it needs a coding guideline then |
| 11:20 | fridolin | ah in order to do recursive call |
| 11:20 | ashimema | we need to ensure, as QA people, that we catch cases where we're not passing a reference |
| 11:20 | Joubu | or maybe it does I don't know, I wasn't in the loop |
| 11:20 | ashimema | don't we |
| 11:21 | fridolin | ok and hooks are not very often added |
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| 11:21 | ashimema | it works either way.. it's when you have multiple plugins it can cause issues without it being a reference |
| 11:21 | I think | |
| 11:21 | indeed.. they're not often added | |
| 11:21 | it's just something to be aware of in QA | |
| 11:22 | Joubu | so yes we need a guideline |
| 11:23 | ashimema | https://git.koha-community.org[…]ha/Plugins.pm#L69 |
| 11:23 | fridolin | sorry i have to go, i'll read the end. Thanks a lot tuxayo for chairing |
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| 11:23 | ashimema | so there's already a note in the codebase about it |
| 11:23 | we just need to add that note to the guidelines I reckon to make sure we're all on the same page 🙂 | |
| 11:23 | I can draft it up | |
| 11:24 | Joubu | it's more something for the "how to write plugins" page, if we have one |
| 11:24 | tuxayo | But QAer might miss it then |
| 11:24 | ashimema | well.. ish |
| 11:24 | probably both | |
| 11:24 | how to write plugins and how to add hooks to core | |
| 11:25 | tuxayo | # action ashimema draft coding guideline about reference passing for plugins |
| 11:25 | ashimema | 🙂 |
| 11:25 | tuxayo | is that how I should write it? |
| 11:25 | Joubu | without space |
| 11:26 | tuxayo | (lol I work markdown syntax and the text is gigantic) |
| 11:26 | #action ashimema draft coding guideline about reference passing for plugins | |
| 11:26 | ok it what to check the phrasing | |
| 11:26 | *it was | |
| 11:26 | no more topics? | |
| 11:27 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 11:27 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 9 March 2022) | |
| 11:28 | tuxayo | shoots, we don't know from Fridolin about the time. |
| 11:28 | Let's assume same time then | |
| 11:29 | No issues? | |
| 11:29 | Joubu | in my understanding we were suppose to switch |
| 11:29 | tuxayo | Alternate from this time to 15 UTC? |
| 11:30 | *and | |
| 11:30 | date would be the 23th, the week before the hackfest | |
| 11:31 | Let's switch for the time. | |
| 11:31 | #info Next meeting: 23 March 2022, 15 UTC | |
| 11:32 | Might change if needed, don't forget to check the calendar or the dev mailing list the day before the next meeting | |
| 11:32 | #endmeeting | |
| 11:32 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 11:32 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Mar 9 11:32:38 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 11:32 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-03-09-10.01.html | |
| 11:32 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-03-09-10.01.txt | |
| 11:32 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]09-10.01.log.html | |
| 11:32 | tuxayo | thanks a lot all for your attendance and time |
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| 13:03 | udkoha_ | don't underestimate the complexity of Vue.js ! and remember KISS principle |
| 13:03 | :-) | |
| 13:04 | I have again a question concerning remote debugging and koha-testing-docker | |
| 13:04 | it seems to work but ... but ... | |
| 13:05 | we use komodo and debugging is set to "stop at the first line ..." | |
| 13:06 | when we start koha using start_plack_debug our komodo IDE detects the request coming from the docker container - but the first line of the application is "starman" and komodo complains that there is no file mapping for "/kohadevbox/usr/bin....starman" | |
| 13:07 | but in our local environment we do not have starman | |
| 13:07 | then I tried to add a breakpoint in mainpage.pl but this breakpoint is never reached | |
| 13:07 | what can we do to get this run? | |
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| 14:39 | udkoha_ | could it be possible, that remote debugging does not find other breakpoints cause within this magic plack app another port is used for debugging instead of the one I configured in .env in REMOTE_DEBUGGER_LOCATION ? I'm asking, cause I do not use port 9000 !! |
| 14:47 | tcohen | I found issues yesterday |
| 14:48 | related to host.docker.internal not being resolved | |
| 14:49 | udkoha_ | I changed it to the name of my machine |
| 14:49 | that's not the error | |
| 14:49 | but thanks for looking | |
| 14:50 | I found a strange thing in plack-debug.log : breakpoint_set -t line -f file:///koha/mainpage.pl this path is not valid for me | |
| 14:52 | if I tail this logfile I see that this line becomes inserted, when I create the braekpoint in Komodo | |
| 14:52 | something must be wrong with my mapping | |
| 14:52 | tcohen | it all points to the mapping being wrong |
| 14:52 | udkoha_ | :-) |
| 14:54 | for koha sources I map URI: file://kohadevbox/koha to /home/uwe/projects/koha/koha | |
| 14:57 | Komodo shows a file:///home... in the Mapped URIs overview but in the mapping dialog the file:///home... becomes a /home... | |
| 14:59 | I'm confused what they mean with local and remote - I believe that local is from the perspective within the running app (means within the docker container) - in your example you used as URI file://kohadevbox/koha which I believe is a path within the docker container - isn't it? | |
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| 16:29 | reiveune | bye |
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| 19:36 | udkoha | another question concerning the debugging - meanwhile we see the hopefully correct mapping in the plack-debug.log |
| 19:36 | and we still enter the IDE debugger when we use "stop at first line" | |
| 19:37 | but we can't debug, when we try to debug one of the perl programs like mainfile.pl, admin...pl or whatever | |
| 19:38 | how can we be sure that debugging is working, when we load an URL of koha with path /cgi-bin/koha/whatever.pl ?? | |
| 19:39 | in other word - if we send an CGI request, does this run in the plack environment - please help us koha newbies ;-) | |
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| 21:25 | Jess_ | Hello! Our school's OPAC is down with an internal server error. This was initially due to a full disk, but since clearing that to 51% usage (and restarting everything), the server error remains. I have the following plack error: CGI::Session::Driver::DBI::retrieve(): DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha_tsaslibrary.sessions' doesn't exist in engine that might be causing it, but I'm not sure where to go from there. I have logs ready if help |
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