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| 07:10 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 07:30 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:56 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 08:45 | Joubu | @later tell khall I've attached a follow-up on bug 29735, please include it in 21.11.02 |
| 08:45 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 08:53 | marcelr | Joubu++ |
| 08:53 | trying to get back there | |
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| 09:50 | ashimema | morning |
| 09:50 | marcelr | just deleted a finished test; git reset ! |
| 09:50 | hi ashimema | |
| 10:00 | Joubu | git stash, always ;) |
| 10:00 | ashimema | hehe |
| 10:00 | my stash gets huge sometimes | |
| 10:03 | marcelr | i like to edit git formatted patches but sometimes things happen |
| 10:03 | lol | |
| 10:04 | it is a way to improve your code | |
| 10:04 | what you do not recollect, was not needed | |
| 10:04 | hmm | |
| 10:04 | cait1 | texts tend to get better if you are forced to write them a second time... but it#s still no fun |
| 10:04 | :) | |
| 10:05 | ashimema | lol |
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| 10:14 | * cait1 | waves |
| 10:22 | cait1 | I have an error Can't call method "isa" on an undefined value at when trying to install a plugin |
| 10:23 | anyone any idea about this? I wonder if it could be a dependency issue... as I have a report tht it installs fine for someone else on the same version | |
| 10:26 | Full error is: Can't call method "isa" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Plugins/Base.pm line 300 on koha 20.11.12 | |
| 10:29 | the lines are: sub _version_compare { my @args = @_; if ( $args[0]->isa('Koha::Plugins::Base') ) { shift @args; } | |
| 11:03 | ashimema | what plugin is it again cait1 |
| 11:04 | and are you installing it for the first time or upgrading it? | |
| 11:04 | must be upgrade I think, else it wouldn't call _version_compare (unless they're calling it internally in their plugin.. which I've seen a few times) | |
| 11:06 | basically.. make sure 'version' is defined in the metadata of the plugin | |
| 11:06 | it not being defined is what would lead to that error | |
| 11:06 | cait1 ^ | |
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| 11:10 | cait1 | installing for the first time |
| 11:10 | but have treid multiple times already... | |
| 11:10 | can I check easily if something has been isntalled despite the internal server error? | |
| 11:12 | ashimema | if you are installing for the first time and don't have any data to keep |
| 11:12 | nuke the plugins table in the database may be simplest | |
| 11:12 | cait1 | nope |
| 11:12 | ok, I am checkign the table sec | |
| 11:13 | ashimema | what plugin is it? |
| 11:13 | oop.. I see you PM'd me that | |
| 11:18 | not registered for hackfest yet? | |
| 11:18 | Paul tells me only Joubu has so far 😉 | |
| 11:19 | cait1 | I am not sure I'll be able to attend by then |
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| 11:20 | cait1 | March is really soon and the numbers/situation here is really bad with Covid |
| 11:20 | 10 hour train ride... big group of people... daily restaurant visits ... | |
| 11:21 | ashimema | fair |
| 11:21 | I'm still considering it all... hoping the numbers have settled down again by March | |
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| 11:27 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:28 | cait1 | March is usually pretty cold here still... I was hoping it would be pushed more into summer |
| 11:29 | ashimema | hackfest oleonard? |
| 11:30 | oleonard | Still deciding... I really want to. |
| 11:33 | ashimema | We have 3 here keen to go, plus one more whose waiting on more Covid data |
| 11:33 | the world is such a mess right now ☹️ | |
| 11:33 | oleonard | Understatement. |
| 11:33 | cait1 | yeah :( |
| 11:34 | I really WANT to go to | |
| 11:34 | o | |
| 11:34 | oleonard | I'm stuck between wanting to wait and see and wanting to get tickets before it's too late/expensive. |
| 11:34 | ashimema | yeah |
| 11:34 | cait1 | yeah, I think that's an issue with it being so soon |
| 11:34 | ashimema | totally the same position.. |
| 11:34 | prices will go up | |
| 11:34 | right now it's uber cheap to get there for us | |
| 11:35 | but those tickets will sell out or just be taken off the market as they are. | |
| 11:36 | we're trying to be more green as a company.. so have been considering training it.. it's really upsetting how much more the train costs vs a cheap flight.. like a 10x increase (with a 4x increase in time it takes too!) | |
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| 13:29 | cait1 | ashimema++ |
| 13:32 | tuxayo | hi ^^ |
| 13:35 | > it's really upsetting how much more the train costs vs a cheap flight.. like a 10x increase | |
| 13:35 | That's the problem with oil, it's overpowered compared to everything else, so no wonder we use so much of it and are addict ^^ | |
| 13:42 | > with a 4x increase in time it takes too! | |
| 13:42 | Which increases even more the cost! | |
| 13:42 | If that can help, know that for the Paris-Marseille part, night trains are again in service. It ceased during a few years. | |
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| 14:22 | matts | tuxayo, no tax on kerosene is vastly responsible for that, I think. |
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| 16:33 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:00 | domm | ashimema: I sent a mail to Paul Poulain regarding hackfest on tuesday but haven't heard back yet. Is he the wrong person? Or just busy? |
| 17:06 | ashimema | Oh really.. I got a mail back within minutes when I sent him one this morning ... He may just have missed or maybe it got marked as spam? |
| 17:06 | He's the right person I believe | |
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| 20:59 | tuxayo | matts: «no tax on kerosene is vastly responsible for that, I think» |
| 20:59 | Indeed, that *might* even make aviation more subsidized than rail and road infrastructure! | |
| 20:59 | Gary | Testing testing 123! Hi all, I have set up a Koha instance on an Amazon Virtual Machine I can connect to admin and opac fine, have added some patrons but everytime I try and add books via CSV I get a 500 |
| 21:00 | tuxayo | hi Gary do you have access to the log to get more details about that error 500? |
| 21:00 | Gary | I am not sure how to get there, but am willing to learn |
| 21:01 | tuxayo | Gary: what do you got in "/var/log/koha/" ? |
| 21:01 | I have a directory named with the name I gave my Koha instance and all the logfiles are there | |
| 21:02 | Gary | I have my library in that folder |
| 21:03 | Or I see the name of my library in blue | |
| 21:05 | tuxayo | great, when I investigate an issue I run this command: |
| 21:05 | tail -f /var/log/koha/kohadev/* | |
| 21:05 | In my case the directory of my library is named kohadev | |
| 21:05 | This command will output any new line logged in every file. To miss nothing. | |
| 21:05 | So I let this in a terminal and then do the action that yields an error and see the new line of log that came up. | |
| 21:05 | Gary | ok so thats where the logs are the, do I just open it sudo nano? |
| 21:06 | there are error logs for lots of things.... is plack the one I want? Sorry to be a pain | |
| 21:08 | ok I see thats how I open them, just no idea what Im looking for | |
| 21:10 | Things like this in the intranet log[proxy_http:error] [pid 2761] [client 159.223.155.224:48218] AH01097: pass request body failed to 0.0.0.0:0 (httpd-UDS) from 159$ | |
| 21:10 | tuxayo | Gary try to CSV book addition and check out the new line that came with that |
| 21:11 | Gary | in which error log? |
| 21:11 | will try now | |
| 21:13 | tuxayo | the tail command will give you all. I think it should be plack-intranet-error.log if there is too much noise from the other files. |
| 21:13 | "pass request body failed" is that a new line that pops when you CSV book addition? | |
| 21:14 | when you run the tail command, in this case, disregard the existing lines and focus on new ones coming when you get the error | |
| 21:14 | this should give a cleaner starting output | |
| 21:14 | tail -fn0 /var/log/koha/kohadev/* | |
| 21:17 | Gary | End of script output before headers: stage-marc-import.pl |
| 21:18 | and then this pops up in the log file "GET /intranet/errors/500.pl HTTP/ | |
| 21:18 | So I assume that is the error + message sent | |
| 21:19 | tuxayo | which Koha page do you use for importing CSV? |
| 21:19 | Gary | more of it [cgi:error] [pid 2402] [client 154.73.223.199:52262] End of script output before headers: stage-marc-import.pl |
| 21:19 | I used one that I had used before at school, yesterday in fact | |
| 21:20 | or do you mean how did i get there | |
| 21:20 | tuxayo | "Stage MARC records for import" and then "Manage staged MARC records" ? |
| 21:20 | Gary | tools stage marc |
| 21:20 | yeah but it stops when staging | |
| 21:20 | let me do it again | |
| 21:21 | tuxayo | I didn't know it worked with CSV. Because MARC isn't CSV. |
| 21:21 | Didn't you use MARC files with your Koha at school? | |
| 21:22 | Gary | Yeah, its using MARCedit to convert |
| 21:23 | so its a mrc file there, sorry I am not being clear | |
| 21:23 | tuxayo | Ok I just found this https://koha-community.org/man[…]el-data-into-koha |
| 21:23 | It's indeed MARCedit ^^ | |
| 21:24 | Gary | Ah, just seen this AH01215: Out of memory!: /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/tools/stage-marc-import.pl |
| 21:24 | tuxayo | lol |
| 21:25 | good catch | |
| 21:25 | how large is the MARC file? | |
| 21:26 | Gary | 3000 records not to big??? |
| 21:26 | let me try with 20 | |
| 21:28 | also did'nt work fork failed while attempting to run tools/stage-marc-import.pl as a background job: Cannot allocate memory at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/tools/stage-marc-import.pl line 130 | |
| 21:28 | tuxayo | > 3000 records not to big |
| 21:28 | I don't know how much free RAM is there. And how the process work. But yes people import much more without needed dozens of GB of RAM. | |
| 21:28 | Gary | I will see if I can up the memory on Amazon |
| 21:28 | tuxayo | what does `free -h` says? |
| 21:30 | Gary | 987m |
| 21:30 | sorry free 177 | |
| 21:30 | 737 used | |
| 21:30 | tuxayo | That wouldn't be a surprise it's not enough. |
| 21:31 | Gary | right lets see if I can change it, so near yet so far. Thanks for your help |
| 21:32 | tuxayo | Note that some Koha service might have been killed by the system due to lack of RAM. (like the background job worker used for imports!) I'm not sure it would restart on demand. So you might want to restart your Koha instance. |
| 21:33 | https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 21:33 | > Following these instructions will result in an instance of Koha and the necessary support software which together consume between 750MB - 1GB of memory at idle. If you are installing the MySQL server on the same machine as Koha, assume it is going to need another 350MB - 500MB of RAM. | |
| 21:33 | Gary | Looking at Amazons FAQ's I might be starting from scratch, but I would not have got to this point without your help! |
| 21:34 | tuxayo | it's a rough estimate, and it's likely a bit more now since it's old info. But if you monitor you RAM carefully you might not need to spend much more than now on RAM. |
| 21:35 | assuming 500M would cost a bit. | |
| 21:35 | Gary | I was trying to get this in on a 1gb free tier machine! |
| 21:36 | tuxayo | > I might be starting from scratch |
| 21:36 | it's not possible to change the RAM amount of a VM without destroying it's storage? | |
| 21:36 | ah ok | |
| 21:37 | Gary | Well its all a learning journey! Very impressed with Koha but beginning to wish I had no volunteered to get it going in a primary school in South Africa ;-) |
| 21:38 | tuxayo | Gary: would the free tier machine have been production instance or just a test? |
| 21:39 | To test setting up a Koha a local VM running Linux on you machine might be more convenient. | |
| 21:40 | Gary | I have done that and this is moving towards production. |
| 21:42 | tuxayo | good, I hope you find a suitable hosting. Nice project :) |
| 21:42 | Gary | Thanks very much indeed for your time |
| 21:54 | tuxayo | matts: followup: IIUC it's in big part due to how oil refineries work, there is a fixed amount of hydrogen and carbon in the input crude oil. |
| 21:54 | We produce a lot of gasoline for cars and to have an balanced output there must be something like 30% or more lighter elements like diesel and kerosene. | |
| 21:54 | Which is also why there was a shift towards diesel cars in Europe. As if it's was not hard enough to use less fossil fuel, they constrain each-other! | |
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