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| 00:10 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #260: FAILURE in 15 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U20/260/ |
| 00:19 | Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #374: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D9/374/ | |
| 00:23 | Project Koha_19.11_U16 build #114: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U16/114/ | |
| 00:51 | Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #375: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D9/375/ | |
| 05:28 | lmstrand joined #koha | |
| 05:29 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 05:29 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 05:29 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #261: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U20/261/ |
| 06:15 | fridolin joined #koha | |
| 06:16 | fridolin | hihi |
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| 07:10 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:18 | magnuse | bonjour |
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| 07:53 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 07:57 | cait joined #koha | |
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| 08:04 | cait1 | bug 29796 |
| 08:04 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29796 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Cannot create new patron accounts |
| 08:26 | magnuse | new patrons - who needs 'em? i say we just get rid of that "feature" |
| 08:27 | cait1 | radical thought |
| 08:28 | a library finally free of users that untidy the shelves... | |
| 08:32 | magnuse | yup, win-win solution |
| 08:35 | cait1 | ;) |
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| 10:42 | Joubu | anyone familiar with self-checkout? |
| 10:44 | Pascal joined #koha | |
| 11:25 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:58 | AndrewFH joined #koha | |
| 12:00 | cait1 | hi oleonard :) |
| 12:10 | hm what will be the next LTS after 19.11? | |
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| 13:06 | oleonard | pastebot not working? |
| 13:11 | cait1 | not sure I ever used it |
| 13:11 | oleonard | Isn't that the bot that posts messages from paste.koha-community.org? |
| 13:14 | magnuse | think so |
| 13:18 | cait1 | is that when you check the checkbox? |
| 13:19 | ah no, you have to select a channel | |
| 13:19 | pastebot | "cait1" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Test" (1 line) at https://paste.koha-community.org/7078 |
| 13:19 | tcohen | rangi++ added SSL recently |
| 13:20 | cait1 | nice |
| 13:20 | oleonard | I thought I selected a channel, maybe I didn't. |
| 13:20 | cait1 | i finally got to test bug 13545 which has been in Koha forever |
| 13:20 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=13545 normal, P1 - high, ---, kyle, CLOSED FIXED, Add barcode image generator service |
| 13:20 | cait1 | and love it :) |
| 13:21 | magnuse | yay! |
| 13:21 | oleonard | It occurs to me that we could create a little GUI for testing different parameters to see how the output looks |
| 13:21 | magnuse | yay! |
| 13:23 | cait1 | oleonard: I've tagged it for manual - hope I didn't just miss it |
| 13:24 | not sure wher eit should go... it's great for slips, but also in other places maybe? you coudl do QR codes for a list of new items or so | |
| 13:25 | tcohen | sounds great, cait1 |
| 13:28 | cait1 | also coudl go on ILL slips :) |
| 13:30 | hm a lot of our updated 20.11 have these coming from the daily crons: Use of uninitialized value $val in substitution iterator at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Letters.pm line 664. Odd number of elements in anonymous hash at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Letters.pm line 879. Odd number of elements in anonymous hash at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Letters.pm line 879. | |
| 13:30 | and i am not even sure where to start looking | |
| 13:50 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_21.05_U18 build #121: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_U18/121/ |
| 13:51 | Project Koha_21.05_D11 build #148: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_D11/148/ | |
| 14:01 | Project Koha_21.05_D12 build #75: SUCCESS in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_D12/75/ | |
| 14:10 | Project Koha_21.05_D9 build #123: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_D9/123/ | |
| 14:14 | cait1 | oleonard: are you using the web based self check feature in your library? |
| 14:15 | oleonard | No, I've only tested it. |
| 14:18 | Is there a bug you're investigating? | |
| 14:23 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #130: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_U20/130/ |
| 14:24 | cait1 | yes, but it's ok |
| 14:26 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_21.05_U16 build #130: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_U16/130/ |
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| 14:27 | ngospodinov | Hello! |
| 14:31 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:31 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 14:31 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_21.05_D10 build #193: FIXED in 1 hr 17 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_D10/193/ |
| 14:31 | ngospodinov | Hello. I have the following question. After attaching an electronic copy to an existing library record and then raising the flag to clear the item (which is only one), is there a way to search for the title of the same book in OPAC to get the attached electronic copy. |
| 14:32 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:32 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 14:32 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_21.05_U_Stable build #124: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…].05_U_Stable/124/ |
| 14:35 | oleonard | ngospodinov: I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking whether there is a way to go directly to the OPAC to view a record you're in the process of editing? |
| 14:43 | tuxayo | meeting in 15min! |
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| 14:45 | ngospodinov | No. After raising the flag to clear the item, then I save the changes and only then search for the title of the same book in OPAC to get the attached electronic copy. |
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| 14:46 | cait1 | what you dou mean by 'clear the item'? |
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| 14:47 | ngospodinov | I mean delete |
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| 14:51 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_21.05_U20 build #131: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_21.05_U20/131/ |
| 14:55 | fridolin joined #koha | |
| 14:56 | tuxayo | meeting in 5 min! |
| 14:56 | oleonard | ngospodinov: I still don't understand the terms you're using. What do you mean by "electronic copy" ? |
| 14:56 | tuxayo | qa_team? |
| 14:56 | wahanui | well, qa_team is cait, joubu, tuxayo, marcelr, kidclamp, khall, tcohen, ashimema, nugged, kohaputti, petrova |
| 14:56 | tuxayo | rmaints? |
| 14:56 | wahanui | i heard rmaints was khall, AndrewFH, wainui and tuxayo |
| 14:56 | fridolin | le bonjour |
| 14:57 | AndrewFH | the good morning :) |
| 14:57 | tuxayo | le RM! :D |
| 14:57 | fridolin | thanks :D |
| 14:57 | just out of bed | |
| 14:58 | oleonard | out_of_bed-- |
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| 15:00 | tuxayo | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022 |
| 15:00 | huginn` | Meeting started Wed Jan 5 15:00:52 2022 UTC. The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:00 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 15:00 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022) | |
| 15:00 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_5_january_2022' |
| 15:01 | tuxayo | #topic Introductions |
| 15:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022) | |
| 15:01 | tuxayo | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ng_5_January_2022 Today's agenda |
| 15:01 | cait1 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 15:01 | tuxayo | #info Victor Grousset, Tuxayo GmbH, France |
| 15:01 | fridolin | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France |
| 15:02 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 15:02 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 15:02 | AndrewFH | #info Andrew Fuerste-Henry, ByWater Solutions |
| 15:02 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [major COVID-19 centre take care] |
| 15:03 | kidclamp | #info, Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 15:03 | cait1 | happy new year all :) |
| 15:03 | tuxayo | #topic Announcements |
| 15:03 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022) | |
| 15:04 | tuxayo | Any announcement that doesn't fit another topic? |
| 15:04 | happy new year indeed! | |
| 15:04 | Joubu | #info Enjoy 2022! |
| 15:04 | * thd | after a period of extra work in a retail environment has tested positive for the virus of the day despite vaccinations, extra ventilation, barriers, and 95% mask filtering. I may be past my infectious period but please keep a safe distance. Remember a virus is merely a bundle of information with replication instructions. |
| 15:05 | tuxayo | thd: best wishes for remission (if that's the right word). Thankfully, nothing to be worried over IRC :) |
| 15:06 | #topic Update from the Release manager (21.11) | |
| 15:06 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (21.11) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022) | |
| 15:06 | tuxayo | fridolin? |
| 15:06 | wahanui | fridolin is, like, indeed, but maybe not on Rmain 18.11 |
| 15:06 | tuxayo | lol |
| 15:06 | cait1 | wahanui forget fridolin |
| 15:06 | wahanui | cait1: I forgot fridolin |
| 15:06 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_21.05_U21 build #63: SUCCESS in 56 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_21.05_U21/63/ |
| 15:06 | tuxayo | :o |
| 15:06 | cait1 | wahanui: fridolin is RM for 22.05 |
| 15:06 | wahanui | OK, cait1. |
| 15:07 | cait1 | just fixing... |
| 15:07 | fridolin | yey |
| 15:07 | I've starting again after a few hollidays | |
| 15:07 | Kids have 4 weeks here | |
| 15:07 | khall joined #koha | |
| 15:07 | thd | Seems mild so far but was hoping that symptoms were a less troublesome infection with more decades of experience for management. |
| 15:07 | tuxayo | It's summer after all |
| 15:08 | fridolin | indeed :) |
| 15:08 | Nothing special for RM | |
| 15:08 | tuxayo | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 15:08 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022) | |
| 15:08 | nugged | #info Andrew Nugged, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI |
| 15:09 | tuxayo | As koha-jenkins just said, 21.05 builds ^^ |
| 15:09 | Nothing unusual for the 1st release of 20.05 this cycle | |
| 15:10 | AndrewFH | yeah, nothing to report on 21.05 at this time |
| 15:11 | Oh! except we're off of the usual point release numbering. Kyle did two releases in November 2021, so December was 21.05.08 rather than the standard 21.05.07. just FYI | |
| 15:12 | tuxayo | Nothing to worry about. Urgent security releases do that. |
| 15:12 | AndrewFH | Yeah, I didn't see how it would cause trouble aside from mild confusion :) |
| 15:12 | fridolin | this month 22 is on a weekend, we may release on next monday |
| 15:13 | cait1 | rmaints++ |
| 15:13 | tuxayo | Right! Last month we forgot to coordinate to confirm the release date ^^" |
| 15:13 | moving on? | |
| 15:14 | #topic Status of roadmap projects | |
| 15:14 | Topic for #koha is now Status of roadmap projects (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022) | |
| 15:16 | tuxayo | Anything on something? |
| 15:16 | fridolin | it has been calm |
| 15:16 | thd | Fixed some bugs in rsync copying of binary and other non-version control files for wiki. I should be able to restart commits to version control again soon. |
| 15:16 | Joubu | don't worry fridolin, I am back :D |
| 15:17 | thd | s/wiki/wiki migration/ |
| 15:17 | fridolin | cool B) |
| 15:17 | thd | I will not be running down my health point with all night sessions at least until I am clear from the virus. |
| 15:18 | tuxayo | wise decision, even without sickness |
| 15:18 | #topic Actions from last meeting | |
| 15:18 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022) | |
| 15:19 | tuxayo | > fridolin asks general ML about the discussed KohaCon22 bidding changes and announcement them at the beginning of January if there was not opposition. |
| 15:19 | fridolin | done |
| 15:19 | there have been a few answers that agree | |
| 15:20 | cait1 | i was the one who put that up actually |
| 15:20 | the suggestions | |
| 15:20 | and there was a misunderstanding actually .) | |
| 15:20 | fridolin | I also have contacted Stockholm University because they made a candidature in KohaCon19 |
| 15:20 | cait1 | I didn't mean to make the past continents valid again, but to give people the chance to host an online only meeting without losing the chance to host an in person conf the next 3 years |
| 15:21 | fridolin | but they decline for 2022 |
| 15:21 | cait1 | i think some possible candidates might be holding back |
| 15:21 | becuse they hope to have a "real one" | |
| 15:21 | that is close by, like all the european ones | |
| 15:21 | fridolin | i like the idea |
| 15:22 | tuxayo | cait1: I don't remember if it was misunderstood of it inspired a similar proposal on the last meeting. |
| 15:22 | Definitely related though | |
| 15:22 | fridolin | saying full-online can always propose is the same no ? th |
| 15:22 | cait1 | I think it probably got lost in translation |
| 15:23 | I had to miss the last meeting, so couldn't explain it | |
| 15:23 | i think yoru email only made past ones 'valid' | |
| 15:23 | not talking about not losing the continents psot for the 23 one | |
| 15:23 | not the same | |
| 15:23 | fridolin | ah i get it |
| 15:24 | ok to add this phrase, better be explicit | |
| 15:24 | i hope we will have a proposal ... | |
| 15:24 | cait1 | yeah me too |
| 15:25 | the suggestions came from trying to attract more bids really | |
| 15:25 | because we are running out of time... but an online conf might be something people might take on | |
| 15:25 | tuxayo | +1 it's better lossen up further more the rules with that. |
| 15:26 | cait1 | oleonard: kidclamp: could you help phrasing? I failed already once :) |
| 15:26 | thd | Do we have a scheme of preference for both in person with online component as opposed to online only? |
| 15:26 | cait1 | Maybe: If an online only conference is proposed, the same continent will still be possible to hold KohaCon in the folling year not being removed from rotation? |
| 15:27 | we have asked for bids for either hybrid or online only | |
| 15:27 | a sole in-person is not an option for this year | |
| 15:27 | if we get more than one bid, we can hold a vote and people can factor in their preferences | |
| 15:27 | kidclamp | An online conference will not make a continent ineligible for future in-person conferences |
| 15:29 | cait1 | oh or that |
| 15:29 | fridolin | So action = I will make announcement and edit wiki page |
| 15:29 | cait1 | maybe we should clarify timeframe? |
| 15:29 | thx frido | |
| 15:29 | ineligible (forever... bidding next year) | |
| 15:30 | tuxayo | What was the chances about the timeframe again? |
| 15:30 | oleonard | "An online conference bid will not make a continent ineligible for hosting an in-person conference the following year" |
| 15:30 | cait1 | +1 |
| 15:31 | tuxayo: hm? | |
| 15:31 | tuxayo | *changes |
| 15:31 | oops | |
| 15:31 | cait1 | i think we said end of feb? or middle of feb? |
| 15:31 | fridolin | wiki page says we add 4 weeks |
| 15:32 | so end of feb | |
| 15:32 | cait1 | can you share the link? |
| 15:32 | fridolin | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ontinent_rotation |
| 15:32 | If there is no bid after the deadline that meets the rules, there will be a 4 weeks extension to the deadline. If there is still no bid after the extension period, exceptions from the rules are possible. | |
| 15:32 | cait1 | ah, i was not aware of that passus, thx! |
| 15:32 | i think w don't hae to stick strictly ot that as we are already so late this year | |
| 15:33 | I mean we can change the rules/exceptions right away with the extension | |
| 15:33 | ... and pester every big library we know about hosting KohaCon | |
| 15:34 | fridolin | ++ |
| 15:34 | but OK with end of Feb ? | |
| 15:35 | not sure we will have several proposals to vote for | |
| 15:35 | tuxayo | # actionDRAFT fridolin announces timeframe extension (end of feb) and for this one allow proposals outside eligible continents, keeping priority to actual ones |
| 15:35 | ##actionDRAFT fridolin chances wiki page with "An online conference bid will not make a continent ineligible for hosting an in-person conference the following year". And announcement de change | |
| 15:36 | cait1 | having one would be good |
| 15:36 | :) | |
| 15:36 | tuxayo | yes ^^ |
| 15:36 | ok for end of february | |
| 15:36 | cait1 | yes |
| 15:36 | i think it might take a little to dicsuss in institutions, so should not be too short | |
| 15:36 | tuxayo | So let's write the action and move on |
| 15:36 | cait1 | yep |
| 15:37 | you already did :) | |
| 15:37 | tuxayo | #action fridolin announces timeframe extension (end of feb) and for this one allow proposals outside eligible continents, keeping priority to actual ones |
| 15:37 | #action fridolin chances wiki page with "An online conference bid will not make a continent ineligible for hosting an in-person conference the following year". And announcement de change | |
| 15:37 | s/chances/changes | |
| 15:37 | >_< | |
| 15:37 | > fridolin bring back the topic of keeping or not marcflavour a param for: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=29652#c1 | |
| 15:37 | huginn` | Bug 29652: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Move Koha::Biblio->get_marc_* to Koha::Biblio::Metadata |
| 15:38 | fridolin | this is just to share the decision, any reason to keep this ? |
| 15:38 | looks like a very old code | |
| 15:39 | without answers i'll remove it | |
| 15:39 | cait1 | it hink we need it still |
| 15:39 | in some form | |
| 15:39 | there are some display things that also check for marcflavor | |
| 15:39 | we are not always delaing with the records | |
| 15:40 | oh, i think i misunderstood... we arenot taking about removing the pref...right? | |
| 15:40 | fridolin | noooo |
| 15:40 | cait1 | ok, withdraw! :) |
| 15:40 | Joubu | fridolin: yes, remove it |
| 15:41 | fridolin | oki thanks |
| 15:41 | cait1 | what Joubu says |
| 15:42 | fridolin | action = new bug report to remove it, Bug 27268 dependency |
| 15:42 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to master , Move C4::Biblio::GetMarcNotes to Koha namespace |
| 15:44 | fridolin | tuxayo: ? |
| 15:44 | tuxayo | #action fridolin open ticket about removing marcflavour as a param in context of bug 29652. Add it a dependency of bug 27268. |
| 15:44 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29652 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Move Koha::Biblio->get_marc_* to Koha::Biblio::Metadata |
| 15:44 | tuxayo | > tuxayo inform mtj about the minor release (and no big deal if packages come after, no hurry for this one) |
| 15:44 | Was done, mtj++ thanks for the packages | |
| 15:44 | > fridolin open a ticket for qa-test-tools about using _() or __() in the right context. .tt files vs .js files | |
| 15:44 | fridolin | done |
| 15:45 | we can discuss details in this ticket | |
| 15:45 | tuxayo | #link https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]tools/-/issues/55 |
| 15:45 | > tuxayo calls for volunteers to work on ES 7 support in the koha-devel mailing list | |
| 15:45 | dono | |
| 15:45 | *done | |
| 15:45 | fridolin | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]tools/-/issues/55 |
| 15:46 | your call have been eard at Biblibre, we plan to put some dev workers on it | |
| 15:46 | tuxayo | biblibre++ |
| 15:47 | For anyone interested in submitting patches or testing/reviewing , see bug 25439. | |
| 15:47 | Some look like trivial patches about default values | |
| 15:48 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25439 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [Omnibus] Prepare Koha to ElasticSearch 7 - ES7 |
| 15:48 | tuxayo | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
| 15:48 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022) | |
| 15:48 | cait1 | biblibre++ |
| 15:48 | fridolin | I'd like to point Bug 29672 |
| 15:48 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29672 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Increase performance of Koha::Plugins->call |
| 15:49 | fridolin | performance of plugins is really important, like for intranet_js hook ie |
| 15:49 | Joubu: could you continue on it please ? | |
| 15:50 | Joubu | continue what? |
| 15:50 | fridolin | Bug 29672 |
| 15:50 | Joubu | add a reply, a follow-up? Wait for QA? |
| 15:50 | fridolin | discuss with how to do it good |
| 15:50 | Joubu | ok, will have a look at it again |
| 15:50 | fridolin | followup id need |
| 15:50 | thanks a lot | |
| 15:51 | we notices performance gap is more important when DB server is remote | |
| 15:51 | Joubu | I don't think something is needed, I was discussing with Julian and he told me I was wrong |
| 15:51 | fridolin | ah |
| 15:52 | but there is a benchmark Comment 3 | |
| 15:53 | tuxayo | You mean it needs a second run from someone else? |
| 15:54 | fridolin | any help is welcome |
| 15:55 | lets move on | |
| 15:55 | tuxayo | Any other pressing general development discussion? |
| 15:56 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:56 | have a look at bug 29746, it's great | |
| 15:56 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29746 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Add a handy Koha::Result::Boolean class |
| 15:56 | Joubu | that's all :) |
| 15:56 | tuxayo | go :) |
| 15:56 | cait1 | :) |
| 15:56 | Joubu | (no, that was not a discussion) |
| 15:57 | tuxayo | moving on then :) |
| 15:57 | #topic Review of coding guidelines | |
| 15:57 | Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022) | |
| 15:57 | tuxayo | > fridolin : Remove the deprecated text parts in J5 ? |
| 15:58 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]linked_JavaScript | |
| 15:58 | fridolin | its confusing |
| 15:58 | related to qa tools issue | |
| 15:59 | oleonard | The examples for how to leverage 21156 could be expanded, but removing the DEPRECATED information makes sense |
| 15:59 | cait1 | yes, remove DEPRECATED |
| 15:59 | i mean everything that is deprecated... | |
| 15:59 | fridolin | it is since 19.11.04 |
| 16:00 | i'll leave the reference to 21156 | |
| 16:01 | tuxayo | So just removing everything from DEPRECATED to the end of JS5? |
| 16:01 | fridolin | yep |
| 16:02 | tuxayo | no objections or amendments? |
| 16:02 | fridolin | RIP ☠️ |
| 16:03 | tuxayo | #action tuxayo Update coding guideline JS5 to removed everything from DEPRECATED to the end of JS5. |
| 16:03 | next | |
| 16:03 | > Perltidy config ? There is xt/perltidyrc (untouched since 2008) | |
| 16:04 | cait1 | i think it was hard to agree on things back then |
| 16:04 | fridolin | I have always use default config, but it may be wrong |
| 16:05 | cait1 | what are the differences to default config? |
| 16:06 | fridolin | i mean what are other dev using ? |
| 16:06 | ahhh https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]s#PERL1:_Perltidy | |
| 16:06 | tuxayo | The only uncommented stuff is |
| 16:06 | --cuddled-else --maximum-line-length=178 --opening-brace-always-on-right --paren-tightness=1 --vertical-tightness=2 | |
| 16:06 | ||
| 16:08 | http://perltidy.sourceforge.net/ | |
| 16:08 | > The default parameter settings approximately follow the suggestions in the Perl Style Guide. | |
| 16:09 | https://perldoc.perl.org/perlstyle.html | |
| 16:09 | fridolin | ah ok, so maybe juste remove xt/perltidyrc |
| 16:10 | cait1 | maybe we should write it down then |
| 16:10 | that the standard is used? | |
| 16:10 | tuxayo | Is it actually used by the related test? |
| 16:11 | cait1 | also a good question |
| 16:11 | i tmigh tbe needed for the test | |
| 16:12 | oleonard | We seem to be slowing down... |
| 16:12 | tuxayo | And maybe we keep it empty to have it ready for adding non default value? Or do we expect to unlikely something else than the default? |
| 16:13 | fridolin | we may postpone this |
| 16:14 | tuxayo | #action tuxayo check if xt/perltidyrc is used to see if we currently rely on it's values |
| 16:14 | last! | |
| 16:14 | > Avoid formatting single words within sentences to ease translation (example: Bug 29589) | |
| 16:14 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29589 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Passed QA , Translation issue with formatting in MARC overlay rules page |
| 16:14 | fridolin | i mean create a new guide line to explain that |
| 16:15 | oleonard | I find that restriction to be be unreasonable, and I wish we could come up with a solution. |
| 16:15 | Joubu | I reused the pattern on bug 29602 as well |
| 16:15 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29602 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , We must be nicer with translators |
| 16:15 | fridolin | oleonard: how is it a restriction ? |
| 16:16 | oleonard | I want to be able to use markup in the middle of a sentence. |
| 16:16 | cait1 | i think there have beens ome solutions proposed |
| 16:16 | but I don't remember exactly where .( | |
| 16:16 | fridolin | i mean the guide line can advice not to use it for translation |
| 16:16 | cait1 | basically it was using a TT plugin i think |
| 16:16 | because TT stuff gets parsed into a sentence, we have issues with html elements | |
| 16:16 | Joubu | yes but it only adds a span |
| 16:17 | oleonard: do you mean you would like to use <b> for instance in a sentence? | |
| 16:17 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ent.cgi?id=128698 | |
| 16:17 | cait1 | it might be on the old bugs of mveron, when he cleaned up a lot of those |
| 16:17 | Joubu | + The [% pref_MARCOverlayRules_link | $KohaSpan %] preference is not set, don't forget to enable it for rules to take effect. |
| 16:17 | we could have [% string | KohaTab tag => 'b' %] | |
| 16:17 | /KohaTab/KohaTag | |
| 16:17 | cait1 | I believe that should work with the tools |
| 16:17 | for translation | |
| 16:17 | oleonard | Joubu: Yes I would like to be able to <em>emphasize</em> words, for example. |
| 16:18 | cait1 | i agree, it shoudl be possible |
| 16:18 | fridolin | ah sure |
| 16:18 | cait1 | woudl the proposed solution work oleonard? |
| 16:18 | Joubu | no |
| 16:18 | cait1 | hm? |
| 16:18 | Joubu | it won't work I think |
| 16:18 | the [% string %] won't be translatable | |
| 16:19 | cait1 | hm right |
| 16:19 | can we assign text in TT varialbes that is translatable? | |
| 16:19 | Joubu | [% SET string = t("translate_me") %] |
| 16:19 | The [% string | $KohaTag tag => 'em' %] stuff blabla | |
| 16:20 | but it will end up weirdly in the po | |
| 16:20 | fridolin | the purpose is to have in PO : The %s stuff blabla |
| 16:20 | right ? | |
| 16:20 | Joubu | you will have translate_me in one string, and the other "The %s blabla" in another one |
| 16:20 | cait1 | i'll give an example i was working on today sec |
| 16:21 | Joubu | BUT |
| 16:21 | oleonard | I don't think we have to solve this problem now, but I wanted to express that I don't think a coding guideline is a long-term solution. |
| 16:21 | cait1 | (Requires above, does not work during self-registration if PatronSelfRegistrationVerifyByEmail is set.) |
| 16:21 | Joubu | [% SET string = ("The <em>Translate me</em> stuff blabla"); %] |
| 16:21 | will work | |
| 16:21 | cait1 | so the PatronselfRegistrationbyEmail is a link |
| 16:21 | and self-registration is too | |
| 16:21 | Joubu | missing t() |
| 16:21 | cait1 | that makes to translate: if |
| 16:21 | Joubu | [% SET string = t("The <em>Translate me</em> stuff blabla"); %] |
| 16:21 | ^^ that will work, problem fixed | |
| 16:22 | cait1 | is set. |
| 16:22 | which is... hard | |
| 16:22 | Joubu++ | |
| 16:22 | so... who is going to try it out? :) | |
| 16:22 | Joubu | cait1: your version can be fixed using the other version, from 29602 |
| 16:22 | cait1 | yes and no, self registration is no pref |
| 16:23 | in that case | |
| 16:24 | should we try it and make the coding guideline up next time? | |
| 16:24 | the string on patron attributs config might be a good case | |
| 16:24 | Joubu | [% SET PatronSelfRegistrationVerifyByEmail_link = '<a href="/cgi-bin/koha/admin/preferences.pl?op=search&searchfield=PatronSelfRegistrationVerifyByEmail">PatronSelfRegistrationVerifyByEmail</a>' %] |
| 16:24 | [% SET self_registration_link = '<a></a>' %] #Same as before | |
| 16:25 | ha | |
| 16:25 | yes, ok, will think about that | |
| 16:25 | move on :) | |
| 16:25 | fridolin | oki |
| 16:26 | tuxayo | #action tuxayo postpone "Avoid formatting single words within sentences to ease translation (example: Bug 29589)" to wait for test results |
| 16:26 | huginn` | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29589 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Passed QA , Translation issue with formatting in MARC overlay rules page |
| 16:26 | tuxayo | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 16:26 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 January 2022) | |
| 16:26 | tuxayo | The 19th at the same hour then |
| 16:27 | fridolin | sounds good |
| 16:27 | cait1 | tuxayo++ |
| 16:27 | fridolin | tuxayo++ |
| 16:27 | tuxayo | #info Next meeting: 19 January 2022, 15 UTC |
| 16:27 | #endmeeting | |
| 16:27 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 16:27 | huginn` | Meeting ended Wed Jan 5 16:27:46 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 16:27 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-01-05-15.00.html | |
| 16:27 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]2-01-05-15.00.txt | |
| 16:27 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]05-15.00.log.html | |
| 16:27 | Joubu | fridolin: are you running the meeting string? |
| 16:28 | tuxayo | thanks all for the attendance and participation. |
| 16:28 | fridolin | Joubu: yep it works |
| 16:28 | tuxayo | great thanks for the updating the wiki |
| 16:28 | fridolin | i just need to configure for calendar, ive skipped last time |
| 16:33 | good day/night to you all, see you around ;) | |
| 16:46 | oleonard | The "holds to pull" report broken for anyone else? |
| 16:49 | Hm... not after a reset_all, only with my own testing data... | |
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| 18:05 | ngospodinov_ | Good evening all. Earlier today I wrote in connection with the attached electronic copy to an existing bibliographic record. The electronic copy is the scanned book in PDF format. The bibliographic record is on the same book. An item with a barcode, inv. number, author, title, etc has been created in this bibliographic record. My question is this: 1. After deducting (hiding it for users in OPAC) this item is there a way for users to see the attachment |
| 18:07 | kidclamp | If you hide the item via OpacHiddenItems and set OpacHiddenItemsHidesRecord to "Don't hide" then the record will be visible and the attachment to the record should be visible |
| 18:15 | ngospodinov_ | I will try this |
| 18:45 | reiveune | bye |
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| 19:06 | ngospodinov_ | where i can find OpacHiddenItemsHidesRecord |
| 19:07 | oleonard-away | ngospodinov_: In system preferences |
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| 19:08 | ngospodinov_ | I cant find it there. I only find OpacHiddenItems |
| 19:08 | oleonard | It was added in Koha version 21.05 |
| 19:10 | ngospodinov_ | Ok |
| 19:11 | I am with older version | |
| 19:13 | Can I do something else on the older version or I have to install this version | |
| 19:14 | oleonard | I assume the feature was added because it couldn't be easily implemented otherwise, but I don't know. |
| 19:15 | ngospodinov_ | Still Thank you very much! |
| 19:44 | If anyone has an idea how I can achieve the desired result in version 20.05 please share with me | |
| 19:53 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 19:53 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 19:53 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master build #1878: FIXED in 1 hr 7 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/1878/ |
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