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| Time | Nick | Message | 
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| 05:03 | chriss joined #koha | |
| 05:47 | dcook | tfw you find a bug that has been in Koha since the feature was first introduced nearly 10 years ago... | 
| 06:12 | Then again maybe it's something else all together.. | |
| 06:14 | Ohh looks like Joonas may have broken it more recently.. | |
| 06:14 | Ah never that easy.. | |
| 06:15 | Actually looks like Joubu broke it :p | |
| 06:15 | bug 27715 | |
| 06:15 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27715 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to oldoldstable , Possibly SQL injection in virtualshelves | 
| 06:16 | dcook | Annd it's already been fixed | 
| 06:16 | Dont' know why I couldn't find that when just searching bugzilla | |
| 06:16 | And it's only Monday :| | |
| 06:26 | cait joined #koha | |
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| 06:42 | marcelr | hi #koha | 
| 06:51 | dcook | morning marcelr | 
| 06:52 | cait joined #koha | |
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| 06:57 | marcelr | hi dcook | 
| 06:57 | wahanui | hi dcook are you around? | 
| 06:57 | dcook | heh | 
| 06:58 | marcelr | dcook: never ending journey? | 
| 06:58 | dcook | Feels like it | 
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| 06:59 | alex_a | Bonjour | 
| 06:59 | wahanui | hello, alex_a | 
| 06:59 | marcelr | i will finish this little idea now | 
| 06:59 | dcook | I intended not to comment anymore heh | 
| 06:59 | I wasn't going to look at the bug report again after the first few days, but I'm just too opinionated :( | |
| 06:59 | marcelr | yeah but i responded to obsoleted comments :) | 
| 07:01 | * dcook | hides forever | 
| 07:01 | dcook | heh | 
| 07:01 | cait joined #koha | |
| 07:01 | dcook | Curious if anyone uses the OpacBrowser preference. I wonder what HEA says.. | 
| 07:01 | Hea* | |
| 07:02 | 400/11400... | |
| 07:02 | cait joined #koha | |
| 07:03 | dcook | I swear I find a new (old) Koha table every few months.. | 
| 07:04 | I think the system preference description might just be plain wrong.. | |
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| 07:05 | dcook | Or maybe just misleading.. | 
| 07:06 | cait1 joined #koha | |
| 07:06 | dcook | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]unning_the_script | 
| 07:07 | Only works for French and Dewey apparently.. | |
| 07:07 | cait1 | that's a realyl old one | 
| 07:07 | dcook | So old haha | 
| 07:08 | I think I need to take my brain out today and put it in a jar.. | |
| 07:28 | * magnuse | waves to dcook | 
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| 09:33 | cait1 | help? | 
| 09:33 | wahanui | rumour has it help is appreciated for bugs and keeping jenkins happy | 
| 09:34 | cait1 | i have a 16.11.09 branch in a kohadebox with a corresponding database | 
| 09:34 | and Koha keeps insisting on loading TT plugins that don't exist in this version | |
| 09:34 | and i am realyl stuck | |
| 09:34 | ashimema | hum | 
| 09:35 | cait1 | i am not sure where it gets the idea from really - can only assume it's some cache, or files related to kohadevbox | 
| 09:35 | ashimema | grep for $raw in the template dir? | 
| 09:35 | cait1 | i did | 
| 09:35 | nothing | |
| 09:35 | ashimema | humm | 
| 09:35 | cait1 | it should not be there | 
| 09:35 | ashimema | USE raw | 
| 09:35 | cait1 | no you misunderstand | 
| 09:35 | it oes not exist in 16.11 | |
| 09:35 | koha still wants to load it | |
| 09:35 | and dies | |
| 09:35 | ashimema | pass | 
| 09:35 | cait1 | it was added in 2018 | 
| 09:35 | so now i ADDED it | |
| 09:36 | and it asks for ASSETplugin | |
| 09:36 | which is another it shoudl not even know about | |
| 09:36 | i wonder if this has something to do witht h files gitify copies or so? | |
| 09:36 | it gets "newer" information from somewhere | |
| 09:37 | i've even tried commenting out the template cache line in koha-conf.xml... no change of course | |
| 09:51 | tcohen | good morning | 
| 09:57 | oleonard | Hi #koha | 
| 09:57 | cait1 | we figured it out: here it comes | 
| 09:58 | translated templates in German sticking around as untracked files | |
| 09:58 | my cookie was probably set to German, so it tried using them and they of course have the raw | |
| 09:58 | and.. git grep did not look in those | |
| 10:05 | it's always stuff like this you lose most time, isn't it? | |
| 10:05 | ashimema | 'fraid so | 
| 10:05 | cait1 | ashimema++ tcohen++ | 
| 10:38 | ashimema | cait1 did you look much at bug 24718 ? | 
| 10:38 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24718 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Patch doesn't apply , Introduce hour-based holds | 
| 10:38 | * ashimema | is trying to wrap his head around it.. | 
| 10:39 | ashimema | it meantions 'bookings' but I'm not sure I understand how it does that | 
| 10:39 | cait1 | not yet | 
| 10:39 | tbh... i feel booking should probably not also be put onto hold | |
| 10:39 | s | |
| 10:40 | if that's the idew | |
| 10:40 | if it's overnights that need a certain return time - that would be nice | |
| 10:40 | ashimema | well.. we have a client who needs bookings and I was going to do it entirely separately | 
| 10:40 | but wnated to scan BZ first to make sure I wasn't overlapping with anyone elses work | |
| 10:40 | cait1 | makes sense | 
| 10:40 | ashimema | then I saw this. | 
| 10:41 | it looks more like it just introduces time/hour handling in existing reserves.. | |
| 10:41 | honestly.. I'm not sure I have my head wrapped around 'future holds' enough to really get it | |
| 10:41 | cait1 | future holds just start in the future | 
| 10:41 | ashimema | mm | 
| 10:42 | cait1 | so different beast | 
| 10:42 | ashimema | I don't see any clever circulation enhancements in this one | 
| 10:43 | for me 'bookings' should either block checkout, or reduce the due date of a checkout, for booked materials such that the item would be back at the library ready for fulfilling the booking. | |
| 10:43 | at least that how I think it would work | |
| 10:43 | reserves, to me, feels much more about joining a queue and waiting | |
| 10:44 | with no guarantee the item will actually be there at any given time? | |
| 10:44 | am I conflating concepts? | |
| 10:46 | cait1 | no i think that's it | 
| 10:46 | a booking guarantees a certain ... loan period | |
| 10:46 | not period | |
| 10:46 | hm | |
| 10:46 | my english is failing | |
| 10:47 | ashimema | hehe | 
| 10:47 | cait1 | you are guaranteed to have the item at a certain time | 
| 10:47 | not for a certain length of time | |
| 10:47 | you are not joining a queue, but you are booking a time slot | |
| 10:47 | ashimema | indeed | 
| 10:47 | cait1 | so the system needs to determine free time slots | 
| 10:47 | ashimema | indeed | 
| 10:47 | I don't see that in Aleisha's code | |
| 10:47 | cait1 | so renewals and the holds system will get in the way | 
| 10:48 | because i ma not sure how you can make the queue work well together witht he time slots | |
| 10:48 | ashimema | still seems like a nice enough feature.. just not what I think of as bookings | 
| 10:48 | I think me developing a distinct bookings code wouldn't block her dev. | |
| 10:48 | that's what I'm aiming for.. making sure I'm not blocking her :) | |
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| 11:41 | oleonard | Is GoogleOpenIDConnect supposed to work in the staff interface? | 
| 11:41 | The system preference descriptions aren't very specific. | |
| 11:42 | khall | oleonard I'm only seeing references to it in the opac templates | 
| 11:43 | oleonard https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=10988 | |
| 11:43 | huginn | Bug 10988: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, vanoudt, CLOSED FIXED, Allow login via Google OAuth2 (OpenID Connect) | 
| 11:43 | khall | I think it's always been opac-only | 
| 11:47 | oleonard | Thanks khall, I should have grepped before asking | 
| 12:09 | marcelr | who is signing off bug 28935 please? | 
| 12:09 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28935 is not accessible. | 
| 12:10 | marcelr | 2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) | 
| 12:10 | should be doable | |
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| 13:03 | marcelr | kidclamp++ any chance that we can make your signoff a qa stamp? oleonard is testing too | 
| 13:06 | ashimema | sorry I threw problems into that one. | 
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| 13:06 | ashimema | ended up rather harder to achieve and scope crept all over the shop | 
| 13:06 | glad it's been simplified and split | |
| 13:06 | agian.. | |
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| 13:15 | oleonard | kidclamp: Not sure if I should add my signoff or wait so they can go on in reverse? Does the order matter ?? | 
| 13:15 | kidclamp | works for me, I think the order is fine oleonard | 
| 13:16 | marcelr: do you approve of my followup? | |
| 13:22 | marcelr | will have a look | 
| 13:23 | yeah sure oleonard++ | |
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| 13:23 | marcelr | could you change status nick? | 
| 13:29 | ashimema | looks great to me too | 
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| 13:34 | marcelr | ashimema: is the column set of any practical value on 28999, or should we just discard the whole thing now? | 
| 13:35 | ashimema | just reading it now as it happens | 
| 13:35 | marcelr | ok just pushing :) | 
| 13:35 | ashimema | I want to take a look and discus with tomas too with regards how we might apply at the object level for wide scope | 
| 13:35 | it's all nice and insteresting code.. I like it | |
| 13:36 | just not sure how best to utilise in koha | |
| 13:36 | marcelr | the allowlist is not much more than a hash slice | 
| 13:36 | but the clou of columnset is perhaps the place where to centralize them | |
| 14:02 | oleonard | GoogleOpenIDConnect is confusing... Should it *require* using Google for login, or not? it doesn't block login via regular Koha account. | 
| 14:07 | I guess I just don't understand why the "Log in to your account" link at the top doesn't offer a normal login, but the login form does. | |
| 14:09 | I guess it should allow both... "If you do not have a Google account, but do have a local account, you can still log in" | |
| 15:02 | cait1 | zebra-- | 
| 15:02 | oleonard: the latter would fit how other things do it | |
| 15:02 | but never used Google auth | |
| 16:58 | oleonard: still arond maybe? | |
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| 18:07 | oleonard | cait1: A little | 
| 18:29 | cait1 | i fixed that one, thx oleonard :) | 
| 18:29 | i had a weird issue with pull downs not opening up | |
| 18:30 | was a miplaced yui-class (old old templates here) | |
| 18:30 | now i am stuck with not being able to upate po files... always something new | |
| 18:33 | Can't locate LangInstaller.pm in @INC (you may need to install the LangInstaller module) - in kshell when running perl translate update de-DE (i need to update the po files) | |
| 18:33 | if someone has an idea | |
| 18:34 | tcohen | Add C4/Installer to PERL5LIB | 
| 18:37 | cait1 | how do I do that? | 
| 18:37 | and why C4/Installer? | |
| 18:37 | LangIntaller.pm is in misc/translator | |
| 18:39 | tcohen: don't go away :) | |
| 18:39 | tcohen | ah, that | 
| 18:39 | wahanui | ah, that is true, of course | 
| 18:40 | cait1 | ... so how? :) | 
| 18:40 | i am a little scared to break it totally trying to add | |
| 18:43 | hm i modified .bashrc for vagrant... adding /home/vagrant/kohaclone/misc/translator - it didn't explode yet | |
| 18:45 | tcohen++ | |
| 18:45 | that seemed to do the trick | |
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| 18:51 | cait1 | thx all :) | 
| 18:51 | bye! | |
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