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| 04:33 | dcook | Is it just me or is the web installer broken for fresh installs when using Plack? |
| 04:33 | non-Plack works fine | |
| 04:33 | koha-schema-upgrade is also no good.. | |
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| 05:15 | tuxayo | :o |
| 05:15 | Which step? | |
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| 05:43 | tuxayo | dcook: I just speedran the installer and logged into Koha. Nothing unusual, what was the issue? |
| 05:43 | (i'm on a plack install) | |
| 05:46 | dcook | tuxayo: Well, this is an unusual case i suppose |
| 05:46 | It's taking an existing instance, upgrading, and then starting over with an empty database | |
| 05:47 | Perhaps there is some koha-create option or something I could've used. I find that command is almost unusable except for creating from scratch though | |
| 05:47 | Doesn't matter too much but good to know you didn't have issues | |
| 05:49 | tuxayo | dcook: «It's taking an existing instance, upgrading, and then starting over with an empty database» |
| 05:49 | In which case it's doing that? | |
| 05:50 | dcook | testing an upgrade |
| 05:50 | and don't have a prod backup so just trying to use a sample db | |
| 05:50 | Doesn't matter. I'll work it out. | |
| 05:51 | Working OK in CGI mode | |
| 05:51 | Although now having issues with the onboarding.pl.. | |
| 05:53 | Although it worked fine in koha-testing-docker i thought.. | |
| 05:55 | I guess I didn't need onboarding.pl there.. | |
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| 05:57 | dcook | Hmm don't know what was going on there but working now.. |
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| 06:00 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:01 | dcook | hola reiveune |
| 06:01 | tuxayo | Hi reiveune :) |
| 06:01 | dcook | Man.. working fine in koha-testing-docker but not in a package install.. |
| 06:01 | tuxayo | «but working now» |
| 06:01 | It's magic | |
| 06:01 | reiveune | \o_ |
| 06:02 | tuxayo | :D |
| 06:06 | dcook | Nah, just something different broke |
| 06:06 | In an even more perplexing way | |
| 06:09 | Ah I was comparing apples to oranges | |
| 06:10 | I think onboarding.pl might be a little broken in 21.05.. | |
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| 06:11 | saa | i am trying to configure elasticsearch in latest version of koha but it is throwing following error [NoNodes] ** No nodes are available: [http://127.0.0.1:9200], called from sub Search::Elasticsearch::Role::Client::Direct::__ANON__ at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/Indexer.pm line 416.rootlinux:/usr/share/koha/bin |
| 06:12 | which version of elastic search should be insalled on ubuntu 21.01 and koha 21.05.01 | |
| 06:12 | can anyone help to guide properly | |
| 06:12 | i tried installing 7.x as well as 6.x but above error is there | |
| 06:19 | tuxayo | saa: no support for ES7 as of now |
| 06:19 | saa | ok |
| 06:19 | tuxayo | > as well as 6.x |
| 06:19 | saa | oh |
| 06:19 | so should i install 5.x | |
| 06:19 | tuxayo | I'm just quoting your message |
| 06:20 | About that, that's should work. Are you able to query ES directly on 127.0.0.1:9200 ? | |
| 06:20 | saa | no |
| 06:21 | when i run rebuild_elasticsearch -v it throws above error | |
| 06:21 | have i done any wrong configuration | |
| 06:21 | dcook | Ah looks like the Board patron type is the reason I as having issues.. |
| 06:22 | tuxayo | saa: can you check without Koha that ES is up and reachable from Koha's machine? |
| 06:22 | saa | should i open browser and check 127.0.0.1:9200 |
| 06:23 | or can u tell me the way to check | |
| 06:23 | tuxayo | I don't know much about ES but that would be my way to go to troubleshoot this. Querying directly |
| 06:24 | saa | k |
| 06:25 | tuxayo | I just tried on my koha the following: |
| 06:25 | curl 127.0.0.1:9200 | |
| 06:25 | And I got an output with various stuff from ES | |
| 06:26 | Testing in a browser should work. | |
| 06:26 | saa | let me chk reinstalling again |
| 06:38 | i install elasticsearch 5.x and when i ran curl 127.0.0.1:9200 { "name" : "fMSAqU8", "cluster_name" : "elasticsearch", "cluster_uuid" : "rMHtCwDjRBSWkDgJoTGMwg", "version" : { "number" : "5.6.16", "build_hash" : "3a740d1", "build_date" : "2019-03-13T15:33:36.565Z", "build_snapshot" : false, "lucene_version" : "6.6.1" }, "tagline" : "You Know, for Search" | |
| 06:38 | it gave above | |
| 06:39 | so elasticsearch is installed | |
| 06:39 | now when i run rebuild_elasticsearch.pl -v it gives error Can't open '/etc/koha/sites/ncl/searchengine/elasticsearch/index_config.yaml' for input: No such file or directory at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.30/YAML/XS.pm line 48. | |
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| 06:45 | jase | Hello |
| 06:46 | I have updated my koha from 3.14 to 20.05 | |
| 06:47 | I have 150000 records under my biblio so want to migrate with same biblionumber with new koha. | |
| 06:47 | I used bulkmarcimport.pl for updating but creating new biblionumber instead of old biblionumber in marc file. | |
| 06:48 | Please help how to update same biblio number with new sysytem. | |
| 06:50 | Nemo_bis | congratulations for your update! I hope someone with experience in migrations will be able to point to some documentation |
| 06:50 | jase | i used koha-upgrade-schema instance name which is also failed. |
| 06:50 | Nemo_bis | (the last time I searched for such documentation was several years ago, I'm quite out of date) |
| 06:51 | jase | Please help me if anyone know more about these issues. |
| 06:56 | tuxayo | saa: ES5 isn't supported anymore I think. So ES6 only |
| 06:57 | saa | oh |
| 06:57 | tuxayo | retry with ES6. The last error index_config.yaml isn't related to ES5 I think so that's puzzeling |
| 06:58 | saa | but when installed 5.x and tried installing analysis-icu it installed without any trouble |
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| 06:58 | saa | let me do again quickly with 6 and show u error |
| 06:58 | give me a sec | |
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| 06:58 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 06:59 | jase | I am using ES6 |
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| 07:01 | saa | i tried installing elasticsearch 6.x and installed analysis-icu after doing this when I ran rebuild_elasticsearch.pl it threw error Can't open '/etc/koha/sites/ncl/searchengine/elasticsearch/index_config.yaml' for input: No such file or directory at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.30/YAML/XS.pm line 48. |
| 07:01 | do i need to do any change in any file | |
| 07:03 | tuxayo | saa: that not the same error as when you first tried rebuild_elasticsearch.pl right? Which was also with ES6 |
| 07:03 | saa | right |
| 07:04 | earlier i had done many changes in Cxn.pm etc as well as in /etc/eleasticsearch/elasticsearch.yml but now i have not changed anything | |
| 07:04 | i have just installed elasticsearch, restarted service and tried using rebuild_elasticsearch command in koha | |
| 07:05 | jase | You need to enable /etc/koha/sites/ncl/searchengine/elasticsearch/index_config.yaml in config file. |
| 07:05 | saa | i have enabled that in koha_conf.xml |
| 07:06 | jase | check file permision also |
| 07:08 | saa | rw-r----- 1 root ncl-koha 20K Jul 14 16:22 koha-conf.xml -rw-r----- 1 ncl-koha ncl-koha 2.8K Jul 14 12:16 log4perl.conf -rw-r----- 1 root ncl-koha 2.0K Jul 14 12:16 zebra-authorities-dom.cfg -rw-r----- 1 root ncl-koha 2.3K Jul 14 12:16 zebra-biblios-dom.cfg -rw-r----- 1 root ncl-koha 26 Jul 14 12:16 zebra.passwd |
| 07:08 | tuxayo | jase: indeed bulkmarcimport should allow to keep the biblionumbers. Since you use a marc export that doesn't contain the biblionumbers. I don't know what would be a clean way to do this. |
| 07:09 | Ideally there would be a way for you to not have the constraint of keeping the biblionumbers. But that would be too easy right? ^^" | |
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| 07:10 | tuxayo | saa: ls -l /etc/koha/sites/ncl/searchengine/elasticsearch/index_config.yaml |
| 07:10 | But it's already known that it's not there | |
| 07:10 | saa | yes searchengine folder itself is not there |
| 07:10 | tuxayo | I don't know how is that file created, could it be somewhere else? Or with just a typo |
| 07:10 | saa | how to create it |
| 07:11 | dcook | Boo metacpan is down.. |
| 07:11 | saa | it available in usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/admin/searchengine |
| 07:15 | i commented out all lines where overwrite option was there and again tried command and now it is indexing data | |
| 07:15 | tx | |
| 07:15 | let me finish this process and come back if there is still any error | |
| 07:15 | tuxayo tx | |
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| 07:18 | jase | If anyone know, how to keep same same bibblionumber while migrating from version 3.14 to 20.05 |
| 07:19 | I tried many ways but still not get the results | |
| 07:19 | tuxayo | saa: IIUC the index_config.yaml in /usr/share should be the default file. So it should have been copied in the config directory of your Koha instance. |
| 07:20 | I don't know how it's supposed to be done. But there was something missing in the setup of your Koha instance and using the file from /usr/share is a circumvention. | |
| 07:20 | saa | should i recreate my instance |
| 07:21 | tuxayo | Also, IIRC this file can be edited via Koha, but it won't work. As this file in /usr/share won't be writable for Koha. And if you manually edit it as root. When updating Koha, that will conflict is the default file is changed. |
| 07:22 | saa | so what is correct way to get it |
| 07:23 | tuxayo | > recreate my instance |
| 07:23 | Yes, at least try a parallel one. Recheck carefully the instructions and check if the files in /etc/koha/sites/INSTANCE_NAME/ are there | |
| 07:23 | saa | ok tx |
| 07:24 | why i am trying elasticsearch is koha takes lot of time in searching records if we use zebra | |
| 07:24 | do u have any answer on this | |
| 07:24 | if zebra works fine we would stick to zebra only | |
| 07:25 | tuxayo | jase: is there a way for you to not need to keep the bibblionumbers? |
| 07:25 | If on a test 3.14 install, you load you production data, and try a direct upgrade (no exporting and importing) is the result working? | |
| 07:26 | saa: I'm not sure to understand. So you need ES because Zebra is too slow for your usecase right? | |
| 07:26 | About redoing you install, which instructions did you use? | |
| 07:26 | *your install | |
| 07:29 | saa | <tuxayo> saa: I'm not sure to understand. So you need ES because Zebra is too slow for your usecase right? YES |
| 07:29 | <tuxayo> About redoing you install, which instructions did you use? I simply downloaded ES 6.x deb file and installed and koha was installed through wiki instructions | |
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| 07:31 | jase | I want to keep biblio numbers beacuse all records updated in DOI |
| 07:34 | tuxayo | saa: so, these ones? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ian#Elasticsearch |
| 07:34 | Just to be sure. | |
| 07:34 | saa | yes correct |
| 07:38 | tuxayo | Anyway, that's a far as I can stay. Good luck you two. If still stuck, ask again in hours so there will be people from different timezones/moments of their day. |
| 07:38 | Next step will be to ask in the general mailing-list: https://koha-community.org/sup[…]ha-mailing-lists/ | |
| 07:39 | So, good night all, see you at the IRC meeting for those who will attend :) | |
| 07:44 | saa | tx a lot tuxayo |
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| 07:51 | jase | Please check my quries. |
| 07:53 | * tuxayo | gives a last peak at the chat |
| 07:54 | tuxayo | jase: You should ask in the general mailing list, it's a tricky migration case. There are more people there with migration experience |
| 08:00 | jase | share any contact in general mailing list for checking my quries. |
| 08:09 | ashimema | cait around ? |
| 08:09 | tuxayo | jase: https://koha-community.org/sup[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
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| 08:55 | severine_q | Hello Koha :) |
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| 09:29 | cait1 | hi severine_q :) |
| 09:29 | ashimema: kind of around now, what's up? | |
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| 09:48 | ashimema | I was going to ask how much you understand about 'Holdings' records? |
| 09:49 | * ashimema | is seeing lots of parallels in bug 20447 and bug 24857 in terms of overall targets.. |
| 09:49 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20447 new feature, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , Add support for MARC holdings records |
| 09:49 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24857 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to create "Volumes" for records, and assign items to volumes | |
| 09:49 | ashimema | but they take two very different approaches |
| 09:50 | also been thinking again about the 'Bundles' bug and how we might be able to make it work from both perspectives.. in MARC and in DB.. both or just one. | |
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| 10:22 | cait1 | hm i know some about Holdings |
| 10:22 | we process MARC Holdings when importing data into Koha | |
| 10:23 | so I have seeen quite a bit of them - but I haven't tested the patch for Koha | |
| 10:23 | I thin i give initial feedback on the RFC - it's on the wiki | |
| 10:23 | ashimema: ^ | |
| 10:23 | ashimema | yeah, I read the RFC |
| 10:23 | indeed | |
| 10:23 | cait1 | i think the idea usually is not for "bundles2... but it could be helpful |
| 10:24 | ashimema | I think it looks like a reasonable addition, especially given they've made it entirely optional |
| 10:24 | cait1 | yes |
| 10:24 | we have been missing this "level" | |
| 10:24 | at the moment waht we do is writing information from the holdings into the bibliographic records before importing into Koha | |
| 10:24 | ashimema | well.. I SO'd.. so it's awaiting QA now |
| 10:24 | cait1 | I am curious to see how we might be able to improve workflows long term |
| 10:24 | time... :( | |
| 10:24 | ashimema | mm |
| 10:25 | cait1 | just preparing for another meeting and trying to have a bite before it |
| 10:25 | ashimema | I'm still interested in how it fits with Kyles Volumes work |
| 10:25 | that also sorta introduces the same level.. but in an entirely different way | |
| 10:25 | hugs | |
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| 10:49 | cait1 | MARC holdings is maybe too complicated for some - unless we have tools to make the linkings/entries more automatic/comfortable maybe |
| 10:50 | paxed | the marc holdings change is in use in the finnish national library and they absolutely need it |
| 10:51 | and it's marc format stuff | |
| 10:51 | unlike the (rather cryptically named, imo) volume level holds? | |
| 10:53 | cait1 | paxed: not disagreeing with you at all |
| 10:53 | just talking about how it might relate to other proposed features | |
| 10:53 | like the volumn one ashimema mentioned | |
| 10:54 | using the holdings for that purpose might be a little overkill - or might require some nice to handle helpers | |
| 10:54 | it's totally MARC standard and I think we shoudl have them :) | |
| 10:55 | paxed | ah. i thought it was an either-or situation |
| 10:55 | ashimema | Indeed.. I was looking at it from he perspective of how do we use Holdings records but still make it simple enough to achieve the stuff 'Volumes' does |
| 10:55 | well.. I personally think it's really confusing to have such similar functionality both make it in ;) | |
| 10:56 | but I'm keen for 'Holdings' to win.. I wasn't really aware how similar they are until yesterday though | |
| 10:56 | paxed | i'm not at the national library, so can't really say for sure (i'm at the public libraries), but we have a long-standing ticket for holds where any of multiple copies fulfill it |
| 10:57 | ashimema | such a shame when things like this happen.. would have been great to see Kyle test/qa Holdings rather than write a 'simpler' competing piece |
| 10:57 | paxed | (not just a "volume", but for example a different course material books) |
| 10:57 | ashimema | there's a 'hold groups' feature somewhere isn't there.. |
| 10:57 | I've lost track honestly. | |
| 10:58 | paxed | we're running an old koha fork, so not for us. haven't kept up to community, because resources. |
| 10:58 | ashimema | I'm basically re-investigating all this stuff as we have a contract to add 'boxes' or 'collections' or 'bundles' or whatever at the other end of the structure. |
| 10:58 | paxed | ahh |
| 10:59 | ashimema | with the same time we need to add 'bookings' so rather than just reserving an item for next in queue when it comes back.. people can actually book a time slot for it. |
| 11:29 | hope the floods haven't affected you at all cait | |
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| 11:32 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 11:33 | ashimema | hi marcelr |
| 11:33 | just about to head out for a bit, but may catch you later for a chat | |
| 11:34 | also wondered if you might be a good candidate to QA bug 20447.. think it needs some librarian perspective.. the code looks reasonable so far.. and in my understanding all seems sane enough.. but I'm by no means a cataloguer | |
| 11:34 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20447 new feature, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , Add support for MARC holdings records |
| 11:36 | marcelr | could have a look, no cataloger too ;) |
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| 12:22 | oleonard-away | cait1: I was able to reproduce Bug 27081...and then I wasn't. |
| 12:22 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27081 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Notes missing from lost items report column configuration |
| 12:33 | paxed | ashimema: not knowing what you mean by "'boxes' or 'collections' or 'bundles'", couldn't those be catalogued as "kits"? |
| 12:34 | oleonard | I wonder if the original intention of the add item form is that if you leave an "important" field empty you're supposed to be able to continue after confirming. |
| 12:36 | Joubu | oleonard: yes |
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| 12:45 | oleonard | It doesn't work that way :) |
| 12:47 | Joubu | only on the add item form |
| 12:47 | additem.pl | |
| 12:47 | bug 28690 | |
| 12:47 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28690 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Important and mandatory not checked on all item forms |
| 12:50 | oleonard | Haha you discovered the bug after filing 28689 just as I did after working on 28689 |
| 12:52 | Our cataloging-related JS is spread out over so many files | |
| 12:56 | Joubu | oleonard: I found it after bug 27526 actually. Its mid-term goal is to refactor/centralize the code for the add/mod item forms |
| 12:56 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27526 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Remove Mod/AddItemFromMarc from additem.pl |
| 12:56 | Joubu | which will fix those inconsistencies hopefully |
| 12:57 | oleonard | Let me know if there's anything I can do to help |
| 12:57 | I was playing around with changing out such errors are displayed in Bug 28694 | |
| 12:57 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28694 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Check alert in cataloguing should be a modal |
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| 13:02 | Joubu | oleonard: working your patch on top of 27526 to prevent conflicts will be help a lot :) |
| 13:02 | s/working/writing | |
| 13:03 | oleonard | I will do that... I'm not sure that my current proposal is the correct one. |
| 13:07 | Joubu++ | |
| 13:07 | 27526 looks like a lot of work | |
| 13:09 | Joubu | not much, yet. But it's the start of something bigger :) If we have the different item forms all using the same code that would be great |
| 13:09 | They have been made unecessarily too complex | |
| 13:12 | * oleonard | biab |
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| 13:42 | oleonard | Oh dangit, patched the wrong bug report :( |
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| 13:53 | Joubu | oleonard: Does my comment on bug 28694 make sense? |
| 13:53 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28694 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Check alert in cataloguing should be a modal |
| 13:55 | marcelr | ashimema: i would be bit hesitant to qa 20447 as long as its base is still pending in PQA |
| 13:56 | ashimema | fair enough |
| 13:56 | tuxayo | meeting in 5 min! |
| 13:56 | ashimema | it's in Joubu queue to push so I'm sure it'll happen soon enough |
| 13:56 | dang.. meeting | |
| 13:56 | I'm so bad at this | |
| 13:56 | tuxayo | qa_team? rmaints? |
| 13:57 | qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, kidclamp, khall, tuxayo, petrova, nugged | |
| 13:57 | rmaints is probably fridolin, khall, kidclamp, wainui and tuxayo | |
| 14:00 | nugged | o/ |
| 14:02 | ashimema | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021 |
| 14:02 | huginn | Meeting started Thu Jul 15 14:02:41 2021 UTC. The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:02 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:02 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:02 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_15_july_2021' |
| 14:02 | ashimema | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_15_July_2021 Agenda |
| 14:03 | #topic Introductions | |
| 14:03 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:03 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 14:03 | ashimema | #info please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes |
| 14:03 | petrova | #info Peter (Petro) Vashchuk, National Library of Finland, Helsinki |
| 14:03 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK |
| 14:03 | tuxayo | #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France |
| 14:03 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 14:03 | marcelr | #info Marcel de Rooy |
| 14:03 | thd | #info |
| 14:03 | Joubu | (I might disappear in the middle of the meeting) |
| 14:04 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:04 | ashimema | #chair Joubu |
| 14:04 | huginn | Current chairs: Joubu ashimema |
| 14:04 | ashimema | #chair tuxayo |
| 14:04 | huginn | Current chairs: Joubu ashimema tuxayo |
| 14:04 | tuxayo | :D |
| 14:04 | ashimema | #topic Announcements |
| 14:04 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:04 | ashimema | Anyone have anything to announce? |
| 14:05 | did I imagine hackfest dates have come out? | |
| 14:05 | tuxayo | no, it happened |
| 14:06 | * tuxayo | digs |
| 14:06 | Joubu | Next year: march 28th - april 1st. |
| 14:06 | " PS : it's not an april fool" | |
| 14:06 | ashimema | #info The next Marseille Hackfest has been announced: March 28th - April 1st. |
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| 14:06 | ashimema | Get those hotels booked :) |
| 14:06 | tuxayo | thanks Joubu |
| 14:07 | Joubu | be all there, it will be fun! |
| 14:07 | ashimema | Paul also suggested that that's the new dates generally going forward didn't he.. |
| 14:07 | * oleonard | will move mountains to make it |
| 14:07 | ashimema | so people can plan way ahead now :) |
| 14:08 | moving on | |
| 14:08 | #topic Update from the Release manager | |
| 14:08 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:08 | ashimema | over to you Joubu |
| 14:08 | Joubu | I am very slow at everything, sorry about that |
| 14:09 | Bug 17600 is going to be pushed very soon (for real), like tomorrow. It took me way more time than expected. | |
| 14:09 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Passed QA , Standardize the EXPORT |
| 14:09 | tuxayo | found! https://lists.koha-community.o[…]-July/046602.html |
| 14:09 | #link next hackfest announcement https://lists.koha-community.o[…]-July/046602.html | |
| 14:09 | Joubu | I will be back to process the PQA queue beginning of next week and I will deal with the conflicts (on those ones) caused by 17600. |
| 14:10 | tuxayo | #info and fixed dates for futures ones: 4th week of March |
| 14:10 | Joubu | that's all :D |
| 14:10 | ha | |
| 14:10 | ashimema | Joubu++ |
| 14:10 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 14:10 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:10 | Joubu | bug 12561, bug 3142, bug 27829, bug 25078 |
| 14:10 | and bug 27526 | |
| 14:10 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=12561 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Remove non-XSLT views |
| 14:10 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3142 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Standardize how OPAC and staff determine requestability | |
| 14:11 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27829 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [OMNIBUS] Remove specific LANG installer data | |
| 14:11 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Update DB process - wrap each DBRev inside a transaction and better error handling | |
| 14:11 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27526 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Remove Mod/AddItemFromMarc from additem.pl | |
| 14:11 | Joubu | is my top priority list |
| 14:11 | nugged | #info Andrew Nugged, National Library of Finland, HELSINKI |
| 14:11 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:11 | nugged | ( 🤷♂️ ) |
| 14:12 | ashimema | anything to say tuxayo.. think you're the only rmaint here |
| 14:12 | tuxayo | right! missed the topic |
| 14:13 | ashimema | well it looks like rmaint has been ticking along ot me |
| 14:13 | so lets move on | |
| 14:13 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
| 14:13 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:13 | ashimema | cait |
| 14:13 | tuxayo | #info RMaint: few backports, one regression found in vairous releases and someone submitted a fix, do all good |
| 14:14 | marcelr | cait1 |
| 14:15 | * Joubu | disappears |
| 14:15 | tuxayo | :o |
| 14:15 | Minimal QA from me in the form of following up on stuff that I tested. | |
| 14:16 | ashimema | #info QA is running OK. Please keep an eye on your emails QA team, cait gives good direction. |
| 14:16 | tuxayo | indeed! |
| 14:16 | ashimema | #topic Status of roadmap projects |
| 14:16 | Topic for #koha is now Status of roadmap projects (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:17 | ashimema | I've not kept up at all this month.. has anything moved on the roadmap? |
| 14:17 | #info Bug 17600 is about to be pushed! :) | |
| 14:17 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Passed QA , Standardize the EXPORT |
| 14:18 | ashimema | #info Bug 27526 is nearing the top of the RM's priorities again, lets get testing/qaing asap. |
| 14:18 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27526 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Remove Mod/AddItemFromMarc from additem.pl |
| 14:18 | ashimema | #info Bug 25078 is in good shape, needs a QA eye. |
| 14:18 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25078 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Update DB process - wrap each DBRev inside a transaction and better error handling |
| 14:19 | thd | I resent an email to people in the wiki group where Joubu had not seen messages from me. |
| 14:19 | tuxayo | yep, it's greap! |
| 14:19 | *great | |
| 14:19 | ashimema | #info Accessibility improvements - Bugs attached to bug 28188 - Please help them move forward by testing. |
| 14:19 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28188 minor, P5 - low, ---, bolshawh, ASSIGNED , Accessibility: OPAC - the contrast ratio for text is insufficient [OMNIBUS] |
| 14:20 | ashimema | #info Wiki migration - Email sent to the wiki group, please reply as necessary. |
| 14:20 | thd | Gmail treats messages from my mail server as unauthenticated likely junk. |
| 14:20 | oleonard | ashimema: Wrong bug number? I don't see dependent bugs on 28188 |
| 14:20 | ashimema | #info Bug 22544 is moving forward rapidly, needs a final QA and then next steps |
| 14:20 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Move C4:NewsChannels to Koha namespace |
| 14:20 | thd | The important thing to know is merely whether someone did not receive a message from me last week. |
| 14:21 | ashimema | humm.. that's the bug number listed on the roadmap.. seems they've not actually added bugs to it yet :( |
| 14:21 | marcelr | pushed |
| 14:21 | ashimema | I did.. but it went to spam again |
| 14:21 | ooh.. pushed now.. damn | |
| 14:21 | I can't keep up :) | |
| 14:22 | marcelr | redundancy |
| 14:22 | ashimema | #info News - I meant bug 24387 |
| 14:22 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Patch doesn't apply , Rename News tool |
| 14:22 | ashimema | Joubu ^ I couldn't resolve the merge conflict there.. it confused me |
| 14:22 | thd | ashimema: If you whitelist my domain agogme.com as Joubu did, I promise never to send any actual spam. |
| 14:23 | tuxayo | ^^ |
| 14:23 | ashimema | I think the rest of them are further off.. I will send some chaser emails out asap. |
| 14:24 | #topic Actions from last meeting | |
| 14:24 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:24 | thd | Part of the issue for acceptance of my mail server is that my mail system actually runs on agogme.net and merely pretends to send from agogme.com . |
| 14:24 | ashimema | #action ashimema Talk to key players about message passing for alerts |
| 14:24 | I didn't manage to get to that.. too many things on my plate :( | |
| 14:25 | #topic General development discussion | |
| 14:25 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:25 | ashimema | I don't see any topic listed on the agenda, so we can move on unless anyone has anything they'd like to raise? |
| 14:25 | #topic Review of coding guidelines | |
| 14:25 | Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:25 | ashimema | #info Nothing to discus |
| 14:26 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 14:26 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 July 2021) | |
| 14:26 | nugged | Victor wanted to discuss something about action_log and unblessed? |
| 14:26 | (Petro?) | |
| 14:26 | tuxayo | oh right! |
| 14:27 | ashimema | ok.. go for it. |
| 14:27 | tuxayo | to follow up on the petrova email |
| 14:28 | ashimema | I don't see an email from petrova |
| 14:29 | tuxayo | I don't have anything myself to say on the topic but I can relay some things from http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]1-07-12#i_2364995 |
| 14:29 | email => irc actually | |
| 14:29 | they found there action_logs table grow from 4g to 35g in weeks | |
| 14:29 | nugged | yes |
| 14:30 | tuxayo | due to some perl blessing thing that caused date ending up in the DB in a very verbose form |
| 14:30 | nugged | and it was because item MODIFY log entries was 370Kb each |
| 14:30 | because two things: indented dumps with lot of spaces (370Kb -> 48Kb not indented) | |
| 14:31 | marcelr | there are some bugs in the queue now for that ? |
| 14:31 | tuxayo | #info if anyone have a massive increase of action_logs, check out bug 28700 and 28692 |
| 14:31 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28700 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Needs Signoff , "Unblessed" method in Object.pm has blessed values for keys in some cases |
| 14:32 | tuxayo | #info and eyes and opinions are needed for the proposed solutions |
| 14:32 | nugged | and because Object.pm ->unblessed returns DateTime objects inside unblessed results (sometimes and for explained in the ticket reason reason) |
| 14:32 | marcelr | there is also another one for whitespace |
| 14:32 | ashimema | #info See bug 28700 and bug 28692 for details around action_logs growth and unblessed. |
| 14:32 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28692 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Needs Signoff , Reduce DB action_log table size |
| 14:32 | ashimema | too slow :) |
| 14:33 | nugged | yes, these two tickets |
| 14:33 | ashimema | ok.. lets take a look and get back later on those |
| 14:33 | tuxayo | So that's the sums of the things. |
| 14:33 | *sum up | |
| 14:33 | * ashimema | has to go collect kids from school |
| 14:33 | ashimema | #info Next meeting: 21 July 2021, 14 UTC |
| 14:33 | seem OK to people? | |
| 14:33 | marcelr | huh 6 days |
| 14:33 | nugged | our libraries started inventory check and get out of space on hosting :). |
| 14:33 | tuxayo | in 6 days? |
| 14:33 | nugged | ok then. |
| 14:34 | ashimema | ack |
| 14:34 | I emant 28th | |
| 14:34 | #info Next meeting: 28 July 2021, 14 UTC | |
| 14:34 | my bad | |
| 14:34 | thanks# | |
| 14:34 | tuxayo | good to me :) |
| 14:34 | * ashimema | will not be around for 28th, but I'm sure someone can run it for us ;) |
| 14:34 | ashimema | #endmeeting |
| 14:34 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 14:34 | huginn | Meeting ended Thu Jul 15 14:34:51 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:34 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-07-15-14.02.html | |
| 14:34 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]1-07-15-14.02.txt | |
| 14:34 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]15-14.02.log.html | |
| 14:34 | tuxayo | ashimema++ |
| 14:34 | ashimema | thanks chaps |
| 14:35 | tuxayo | See you all. |
| 14:35 | * tuxayo | runs for groceries |
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| 14:58 | jim_ | anyone here |
| 14:58 | oleonard | jim_: Whether anyone is here depends on what your question is ;) |
| 15:00 | jim_ | Sir I have barcoades which are 7 digits but I want to make it 6 |
| 15:00 | what are ways I can edit | |
| 15:03 | oleonard | You can change item barcodes in the Cataloging module using the item edit form. |
| 15:05 | jim_ | that is individually I have around a 100 such barcodes to edit |
| 15:05 | so I want to edit in a range or in bulk | |
| 15:07 | oleonard | I don't believe Koha offers any way to do that. You could export your records, manipulate them outside of Koha, and then re-import them. |
| 15:07 | caroline_catlady | I agree with oleonard I don't think you can do that inside Koha |
| 15:07 | oleonard | Barcodes are generally assumed to be a physical label on an item, so bulk changes of barcodes involves physical alteration of the items. It's not usually an automated process. |
| 15:08 | caroline_catlady | maybe it could be possible in the db directly |
| 15:08 | something like update items set barcode = right(barcode, 6); | |
| 15:08 | I haven't tried it so test it first | |
| 15:11 | jim_ | Caroline if this could be tried I think it would be of great help |
| 15:11 | to others also if someone face such an issue | |
| 15:13 | caroline_catlady | jim_: can you give me an example of a barcode that you have and what you want it to be? |
| 15:14 | like 1234567 -> 234567 | |
| 15:16 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:17 | jim_ | yes for example i have a barcode 5801 I want a 0 to it and another barcode I000898 with an extra 0 |
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| 15:18 | jim_ | So I want them to be modified as per 6 digit |
| 15:18 | 5801 in this it should be 05801 | |
| 15:19 | 5801 sorry i mean 005801 | |
| 15:28 | caroline_catlady | jim_: ok for this case (where the barcode is shorter than 6 digits) you can do this command in the db |
| 15:28 | update items set barcode = lpad(barcode,6,0) where length(barcode) <= 6; | |
| 15:29 | I just tried it and it gave me | |
| 15:29 | MariaDB [koha_v20_dev_inlibro]> select barcode from items where barcode like "%5801%"; | |
| 15:29 | +---------+ | |
| 15:29 | | barcode | | |
| 15:29 | +---------+ | |
| 15:29 | | 005801 | | |
| 15:29 | +---------+ | |
| 15:29 | jim_ | this command I need to put in SQl right |
| 15:29 | caroline_catlady | yes exactly |
| 15:29 | jim_ | Wo great |
| 15:29 | caroline_catlady | try it on a test db first if you can |
| 15:30 | or at least backup your db | |
| 15:30 | jim_ | yes I have a test one at home |
| 15:30 | caroline_catlady | great |
| 15:32 | jim_ | i saw a SQL report can I share here can that be modified to achieve the other issue I wonder |
| 15:33 | caroline_catlady | the other issue being the longer barcodes? |
| 15:33 | jim_ | yes |
| 15:34 | caroline_catlady | what shoudl I000898 become? |
| 15:34 | jim_ | where the 0 is extra within a barcode |
| 15:34 | yes it has an extra 0 | |
| 15:34 | caroline_catlady | so the end result should be I00898? |
| 15:35 | jim_ | correct |
| 15:35 | caroline_catlady | hm, this one is harder... |
| 15:36 | I don't think it's possible to change those in bulk, at least I don't have the knowledge for it | |
| 15:36 | jim_ | Oww |
| 15:37 | caroline_catlady | maybe you can try asking on the mailing list https://koha-community.org/sup[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 15:38 | jim_ | Thank you for your help |
| 15:38 | and sorry for the trouble | |
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| 15:57 | jim_ | can we map 852 data to 952 |
| 16:11 | anyone here | |
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| 17:38 | cait1 | @later tell jim_: you could, but don't do it. The indexing is set up for 952, much easier to change your data than to adapt all necessary configuration |
| 17:38 | huginn | cait1: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:34 | tuxayo | @later tell jim : you could, but don't do it. The indexing is set up for 952, much easier to change your data than to adapt all necessary configuration |
| 18:34 | huginn | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:35 | tuxayo | We are covered whether their nickname will be jim or jim_ |
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| 23:55 | dcook | I love how Paul Evans wants people to use Object::Pad in their code and yet it's experimental so who is going to actually do that... |
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