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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:01 | Wainui joined #koha | |
| 00:03 | tuxayo | Wainui: hi :) |
| 00:03 | did the release went well? | |
| 00:04 | mtj around ? | |
| 00:04 | It's expected that these build have failing tests right? | |
| 00:04 | Koha_20.11_D10-Core and Koha_20.11_D10-Full | |
| 00:04 | Wainui | Hi @tuxayo |
| 00:05 | running into problems with release | |
| 00:05 | but doing it now | |
| 00:11 | tuxayo | Wainui: good luck, don't hesitate to ask if you have questions. |
| 00:11 | My first release spanned over 3 days I think >< , struggling on almost everything. I hope the completions I did in wiki will help. | |
| 00:14 | Meanwhile I almost finished releasing 20.11.x on behalf of Fridolin. Who if currently moving to Papeete (French Polynesia) :D | |
| 00:14 | So they will be closer to Aotearoa | |
| 00:15 | (I phrased it like it was the goal of the move but no ^^) | |
| 00:31 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #325: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U18/325/ |
| 00:32 | Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #104: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_U20/104/ | |
| 00:32 | Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #398: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D8/398/ | |
| 00:45 | Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #340: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_D9/340/ | |
| 00:57 | Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #118: UNSTABLE in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_D10/118/ | |
| 01:01 | Project Koha_19.11_U20 build #224: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_U20/224/ | |
| 01:03 | mtj | hi tuxayo, yep, they are currrently experimental builds |
| 01:05 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.11_U16 build #95: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_U16/95/ |
| 01:07 | Project Koha_20.11_D9 build #111: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_D9/111/ | |
| 01:07 | mtj | tuxayo: they *should* build ok, but dont worry if they do not |
| 01:13 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #96: SUCCESS in 1 hr 15 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_U18/96/ |
| 01:24 | Project Koha_20.11_U20 build #105: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_U20/105/ | |
| 01:29 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 01:29 | Project Koha_19.11_U2010 build #23: FIXED in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_19.11_U2010/23/ | |
| 01:38 | Project Koha_20.11_U_Stable build #12: SUCCESS in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]0.11_U_Stable/12/ | |
| 01:38 | Project Koha_19.11_U16 build #85: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_U16/85/ | |
| 01:42 | Project Koha_20.11_U18 build #97: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_U18/97/ | |
| 01:56 | Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #129: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_D11/129/ | |
| 02:12 | Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #130: UNSTABLE in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_D11/130/ | |
| 02:22 | Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #177: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.11_D10/177/ | |
| 02:31 | Project Koha_20.11_U_Stable build #13: SUCCESS in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]0.11_U_Stable/13/ | |
| 02:58 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 02:58 | Project Koha_19.11_U16 build #86: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_U16/86/ | |
| 03:39 | Wainui joined #koha | |
| 03:39 | Wainui | hey to rmaints etc |
| 03:39 | I've done my stuff for the 19.11.19 release | |
| 03:39 | and need to announce now I think | |
| 03:39 | but not too sure how to log into the koha community site to make a post | |
| 03:48 | Wainui joined #koha | |
| 03:49 | Wainui | oh and that is very cool about Fridolin's move! |
| 03:50 | but yeah I've done all my release things I think so just have to do announcements! | |
| 04:08 | tuxayo | back |
| 04:08 | Oh, snap Wainui doesn't have website access | |
| 04:08 | I forgot to ask earlier | |
| 04:12 | gmcharlt arround? | |
| 04:15 | or rangi. | |
| 04:15 | Wainui needs an account on the Koha website to announce their release. And you are listed as having admin access to it :) | |
| 04:18 | mtj: great, no need to worry about. Thanks for experimenting stuff and making the CI even better :D | |
| 04:29 | Wainui joined #koha | |
| 04:29 | Wainui | rangi said he isn't able to anymore :( |
| 04:31 | tuxayo | :( |
| 04:32 | Indeed, Chris only has sysadmin rights | |
| 04:46 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.11_D10-Core build #37: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]0.11_D10-Core/37/ |
| 04:54 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 04:54 | Project Koha_20.11_D11 build #131: FIXED in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_D11/131/ | |
| 05:11 | mtj | dcook: i might attempt a koha-libs package this week |
| 05:11 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.11_D10-Full build #36: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]0.11_D10-Full/36/ |
| 05:15 | dcook | mtj: yeah? |
| 05:20 | mtj | fingers crossed :) - ill follow this thread -> https://lists.koha-community.o[…]April/046413.html |
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| 05:21 | mtj | dcook: i cant think how to test the pkg, once installed... can you? |
| 05:23 | "I'm thinking about the absolute minimum required to run things like the SIP server or some other service/microservice (e.g. z3950-responder, REST service, etc)." | |
| 05:27 | dcook: do you have any of your rpm packaging stuff availble? | |
| 05:28 | dcook | mtj: Just in a virtual meeting at the moment heh |
| 05:29 | mtj | no probs 🍕 |
| 05:30 | dcook | The RPM "<package>-libs" stuff was for a different project which is not open source so I can't really share it. But it just leverages RPM spec file functionality. |
| 05:30 | RPM spec files are a million times easier to work with than the DEB packaging mess.. | |
| 05:30 | As for testing, I'd have to put a bit of thought into it | |
| 05:31 | It should be easy to test anything that just processes data, but I can't think of a function off the top of my head | |
| 05:32 | For things that need to access the database, it might be enough to copy a koha-conf.xml file over and write a simple script that just fetches borrowers or something | |
| 05:32 | What I did lately with one project was to package "<package>-libs" and add that as a dependency to a different project where I just wrote a simple message queue consumer | |
| 05:40 | mtj | i got stuck on making an rpm koha package, when i clicked that all the a2* scripts for debian's apache are missing on redhat :'( |
| 05:40 | i didnt realise they were debian specific | |
| 05:41 | dcook | Yeah very Debian specific |
| 05:41 | Apache gets implemented so differently across the OSes | |
| 05:41 | Because why not, eh? haha | |
| 05:43 | mtj | it seems there is no equiv of the a2* scripts on redhat, so... thats a problem |
| 05:46 | dcook | Is it? How often do you end up using them? |
| 05:46 | I guess we do the a2enmod stuff and what not every time | |
| 05:47 | With my RPMs, I think I try not to touch anything Apache with my packages | |
| 05:47 | I consider them to be 2 separate things | |
| 05:47 | Of course easier said than done in the case of Koha | |
| 05:50 | Hmm opensuse has quite a few a2 scripts | |
| 05:50 | mtj: which version of RHEL are you looking at? | |
| 05:51 | Technically you could probably make some shims as well and use PATH magic to invoke them.. | |
| 05:53 | mtj | dcook: twas looking at fedora stable |
| 05:55 | great find for a2* on opensuse | |
| 05:55 | there is a some a2* magic in koha-common.postinst, koha-remove, koha-plack, koha-create | |
| 05:56 | dcook | Of course there is heh |
| 05:56 | A useful but problematic integration.. | |
| 05:56 | mtj | ..so all of those scripts will need to be patched to work on redhat/fedora (and friends) |
| 05:57 | dcook | Yeah, that's a big part of why it's never happened |
| 05:57 | The packaging isn't so hard, but supporting Koha on other OSes.. | |
| 05:57 | I've mostly given up on it | |
| 05:57 | We're migrating everyone to Debian/Ubuntu, because Koha is too wedded to those OSes | |
| 05:57 | And then special installs for RHEL where absolutely necessary | |
| 05:58 | I have thought a bit about how we might change Koha to not rely on Apache per se | |
| 05:59 | But also easier said than done | |
| 06:03 | mtj | ill take a look at opensuse, and see if i can make more progress with its apache |
| 06:04 | dcook | What's the goal? |
| 06:04 | mtj | 'personal growth' |
| 06:04 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.11_D10 build #119: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.11_D10/119/ |
| 06:05 | dcook | Fair enough heh |
| 06:07 | mtj | i have no knowledge of rpm packaging, creating a koha package could be a good way to learn |
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| 06:37 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:43 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 06:53 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 09:34 | Mesfin | hello everyone |
| 09:35 | I am having problems upgrading Koha 20.05.06.000 to the latest version | |
| 09:35 | I am getting Row size too large. The maximum row size for the used table type, not counting BLOBs, is .... | |
| 09:36 | The table in question is the `items` table | |
| 09:36 | cait2 | hi Mesfin, we haven't encountered that with items yet, but we had it a whie ago with borrowers I think |
| 09:37 | Mesfin | How did you resolve it? |
| 09:37 | cait2 | i am trying to find the bug report |
| 09:37 | Mesfin | Thank you for responding cait2 |
| 09:37 | My google search leads me to changing the table to Dynamic row_format | |
| 09:38 | cait2 | the bug in question was https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24986 |
| 09:38 | huginn | Bug 24986: critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to oldoldstable , Maximum row size reached soon for borrowers and deletedborrowers |
| 09:38 | Mesfin | Most of the tables in my Koha Database are in Compact Row_format |
| 09:38 | Is this ok? | |
| 09:38 | cait2 | I cannot tell you, I am sorry |
| 09:39 | ashimema | ooh, that would be a good bug report Mesfin. |
| 09:39 | cait2 | hm the last 2 comments suggest it might be a possible solution |
| 09:39 | and yes, please report | |
| 09:39 | ashimema++ | |
| 09:40 | ashimema | right now Dynamic should be fine |
| 09:40 | but yes, please report the bug.. we should split that table out if we can if we're reaching max row sizes | |
| 09:42 | Mesfin | so setting the items row_format to dynamic should address the problem and allow me to upgrade, right? |
| 09:42 | Thank you, ashimema | |
| 09:42 | ashimema | I believe so |
| 09:44 | mtj | Mesfin: this page looks helpful -> https://mariadb.com/kb/en/trou[…]rors-with-innodb/ |
| 09:46 | Mesfin | Thank you, mtj! I have looked at that. I wanted to be sure that changing the `items` table row_format to dynamic doesn't cause problems |
| 09:50 | Thank you, friends. I will try upgrading again after this change. | |
| 09:51 | I have submitted a bug report as well | |
| 09:51 | ashimema | awesome, thanks Mesfin |
| 10:30 | magnuse | ooh, not a fan of the "Showing 1 to 10 of 15 entries" feature when looking at a table in schema.k-c... |
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| 10:51 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 10:55 | ashimema | which cait, cait1, cait2 do we have today? |
| 10:55 | hi oleonard | |
| 10:58 | oleonard | @wunder ashimema's house |
| 10:58 | huginn | oleonard: Error: I could not find a valid location for: ashimema's house |
| 10:59 | ashimema | lol |
| 10:59 | @wunder stevenage, UK | |
| 10:59 | huginn | ashimema: Error: I could not find a valid location for: stevenage, UK |
| 10:59 | ashimema | * @wunder Stevenage, England |
| 10:59 | @wunder Stevenage, England | |
| 10:59 | huginn | ashimema: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Stevenage, England |
| 10:59 | ashimema | grr.. wunder doesn't work so well these days |
| 11:00 | oleonard | No so well, no. |
| 11:00 | ashimema | 16 degrees C.. |
| 11:00 | and raining.. hehe | |
| 11:00 | feel for bag.. man that's crazy hot over there.. | |
| 11:00 | not so bad where you are though right? | |
| 11:00 | oleonard | High of 32C here today. Not great but not as bad as bag. |
| 11:01 | Although he seems to be doing fine with it XD | |
| 11:01 | cait2 | all of them? :) |
| 11:01 | but this one is heading to lunch | |
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| 11:47 | tcohen | morning all |
| 11:47 | tuxayo you will need to mount your gpg stuff as well | |
| 11:50 | mtj | hi Mesfin, i will reply to your email on the koha mailing list, as others may find it helpful :) |
| 11:56 | looks like bug 28267 describes the problem ^ | |
| 11:56 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28267 normal, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Koha-common package upgrade problem from 20.05.xx to 20.11.04-1 |
| 11:58 | Mesfin | Thank you, mtj |
| 11:58 | Yeah, that will be very helpful | |
| 12:05 | mtj | ALTER TABLE `items` ROW_FORMAT=DYNAMIC; |
| 12:05 | Mesfin: does that SQL fix your upgrade? ^ | |
| 12:06 | Mesfin | I have done that change already but waiting for off-peak hours to try the upgrade. Will try it tonight and update you. |
| 12:08 | I have been upgrading Koha for sometime now and there are a number of tables in the database that are on compact row_format even though the default for the server is Dynamic. | |
| 12:10 | mtj: I am on Mariadb 103 | |
| 12:10 | 10.3 | |
| 12:32 | mtj | Mesfin: try to always test your major upgrades on another server/vm first |
| 12:35 | Mesfin | What I usually do is take snapshots and if things don't work then I revert to the snapshots |
| 12:35 | on the VM | |
| 12:40 | mtj | thats a good upgrade plan :p |
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| 13:08 | tuxayo | Does anyone know of package signature works when doing release maintenance? |
| 13:09 | Like the following says it's OK | |
| 13:09 | *how the package signature | |
| 13:09 | gpg --verify releases/koha-20.05.13.tar.gz.MD5.asc | |
| 13:09 | Even when the tarball and it's MD5 file are not there. | |
| 13:11 | checking releases/koha-20.05.13.tar.gz.sig actually checks the tarball. | |
| 13:11 | but I don't know what the .tar.gz.MD5.asc is for. | |
| 13:11 | and the .tar.gz.MD5 file isn't checked by anything | |
| 13:12 | tcohen | that's for end users to verify the package is legit, right? |
| 13:15 | tuxayo | tcohen: Indeed they can verify that the tarball is legit using the *.tar.gz.sig file. |
| 13:15 | But the use of the *.tar.gz.MD5.asc is a mystery and the *.tar.gz.MD5 doesn't seem to be verifiable. | |
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| 15:39 | tuxayo | > they can verify that the tarball is legit |
| 15:39 | Well, if they had my public key lol | |
| 16:08 | reiveune | bye |
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| 21:40 | EvrenTombul | Hi everyone, I was wondering what the word koha means, does anyone know? Could you also explain the meaning of the word koha? meaning of letters |
| 21:42 | cait | hi, there is a lot of information about this online |
| 21:42 | EvrenTombul: https://maoridictionary.co.nz/[…]ds=&keywords=koha | |
| 21:43 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]s_and_Explanation | |
| 21:43 | EvrenTombul: it's not an abbreviation, but a word - see the dictionary link above, so there is no meaning to the letters | |
| 21:43 | Koha is the correct spelling | |
| 21:44 | EvrenTombul | thanks cait |
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