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07:07 | ashimema | I'm retesting bug 27064 again tuxayo.. sounds like you're seeing very different behaviour to what I was seeing.. I must be missing something |
07:07 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27064 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Transferring an item with a hold allows the user to set a hold waiting without transferring to the correct branch |
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07:12 | ashimema | ok.. looks like it's broken again! |
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08:24 | ashimema | @later tell tuxayo, sorry dude, bug 27064 is back to working.. seems I messed up part of the re-arrangement and lost part of the code change on '(QA follow-up) Do not create transfer prior to accepting it'.. it should be working now. |
08:24 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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09:28 | ashimema | @later tell tuxayo I'm not sure I understand your final comment on bug 28368 I'm afraid.. feel free to catch me some time to discus |
09:28 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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10:02 | tuxayo | Hi #koha o/ |
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10:05 | tuxayo | ashimema: I'll check out bz 27064 again soon |
10:07 | bz 28368, I was wondering if the following is a bug: create debit type with price 0.00, try to buy them, it just refreshes the page and does nothing | |
10:07 | Just noticed when testing the bug, no influence on the ticket. | |
10:08 | ashimema | interesting, I don't think I ever even considered that as a use case.. |
10:08 | it might be.. | |
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10:25 | tuxayo | Ok, I'll report and will see. Thank for insight. |
10:25 | ashimema | I have the customer on a call at the moment.. I'll ask. |
10:26 | tuxayo | oh great! |
10:30 | ashimema | interesting |
10:31 | right now they don't use cash management for stock management at all.. so it works as they expect.. | |
10:31 | However.. they did point out that they do zero amount transactions as a way to open the cash register (we have a javascript plugin that triggers their tills to open under certain conditions). | |
10:31 | and we used to record that as a zero amount transactions for audit.. | |
10:32 | so.. | |
10:32 | in short.. it probably is a bug worth reporting.. or two perhaps.. one for 'open till' and one for 'zero amount transaction' | |
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10:47 | tuxayo | ashimema: what is the 'open till' thing? |
10:47 | ashimema | as in.. they have actual physical cash registers |
10:48 | where they store money | |
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10:48 | ashimema | so when they make a payment it triggers the cash regsiter to open so they cnan put money in/ take change etc |
10:49 | there are occassionals where thy need to open the till for other reasons.. like.. they have keys stored in the till for certain services.. so they need to trigger the till to open to get at the key. | |
10:49 | or they want to swap change from one till to another | |
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11:29 | tcohen | hola |
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11:37 | oleonard-away | Hi tcohen |
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11:56 | oleonard | Useful? Or confusing? https://zivotdesign.com/p/#1/16214252613854 |
11:56 | tcohen | It is great, oleonard |
11:57 | go for it | |
12:02 | * oleonard | will |
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13:08 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 28187: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org[…]eed2e7c3d7b656912> |
13:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 28351: (bug 26261) Fix datepicker for dateformat ne mm/dd/yyyy <https://git.koha-community.org[…]14fd2baffee752aa7> | |
13:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 28187: Exclude dtrg-group from row striping. <https://git.koha-community.org[…]82d876252b6267ae7> | |
13:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 28317: Use the default CGI::Session serializer <https://git.koha-community.org[…]13cb5eb7f33459ac0> | |
13:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 27837: (follow-up) Do not check subfield unless tag defined <https://git.koha-community.org[…]70487fd871fa3e70f> | |
13:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Always pass permanent location from items editor if it was defined <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ec46a771cceec72bb> | |
13:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Check the MARC directly, not the transformed item <https://git.koha-community.org[…]e6579f5c11969a90c> | |
13:08 | News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Unit tests for blank permanent location <https://git.koha-community.org[…]80786ed6cf55cacce> | |
13:09 | News from kohagit: Bug 28255: Follow up to bug 23463 - use item_object in misc/cronjobs/delete_items.pl <https://git.koha-community.org[…]572f4ca89937b02a4> | |
13:09 | News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Permanent location to be empty string, check if key exists <https://git.koha-community.org[…]e756dcb41f2f7a5ec> | |
13:09 | News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Prevent the tests to fail is the field is mapped <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b087d4e0f760a0533> | |
13:09 | News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Add unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org[…]01688bf9520d10595> | |
13:09 | News from kohagit: Bug 27837: Update permanent location if passed into ModItemFromMarc <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ead388c8ff99a0424> | |
13:09 | News from kohagit: Bug 27724: Use lenient also in Elasticsearch authorities search <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0383940063d2b6fca> | |
13:09 | News from kohagit: Bug 27724: Add unit test <https://git.koha-community.org[…]f157c087e655c5c04> | |
13:32 | Joubu | dev meeting in ~30min |
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13:45 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10_CPAN build #334: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ter_D10_CPAN/334/ |
13:52 | tuxayo | meeting in 10! |
13:57 | qa_team? rmaints? | |
13:58 | wahanui missing | |
13:58 | qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo | |
13:58 | rmaints is probably fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo | |
13:59 | fridolin | yey |
13:59 | # Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France | |
13:59 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe. |
13:59 | oh | |
13:59 | not actually started | |
13:59 | lol | |
14:00 | tuxayo | lol |
14:00 | didn't though about this confusion ^^" | |
14:01 | tcohen | #info Tomás Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
14:02 | Joubu | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 19 May 2021 |
14:02 | huginn | Meeting started Wed May 19 14:02:18 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
14:02 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
14:02 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 May 2021) | |
14:02 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_19_may_2021' |
14:02 | Joubu | #topic Introductions |
14:02 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 May 2021) | |
14:02 | tuxayo | #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France |
14:02 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
14:02 | tcohen | #info Tomás Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
14:02 | oleonard-away | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
14:02 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_19_May_2021 |
14:03 | lukeG1 | #info Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions |
14:03 | ashimema | thanks for all the testing tuxayo |
14:04 | tuxayo | ashimema: np, we will get this ticket! ^^ |
14:04 | Joubu | #topic Announcements |
14:04 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 May 2021) | |
14:04 | Joubu | Anyone have something? |
14:04 | cait1 | meeting? :) |
14:04 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK |
14:05 | cait1 | sorry, need to scroll down first :) |
14:05 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany | |
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14:05 | Joubu | #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) |
14:05 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Manager (21.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 May 2021) | |
14:05 | Joubu | ok so that's me |
14:05 | No major will be pushed from now | |
14:05 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
14:05 | Joubu | I will be conservative for the last week |
14:05 | some links: | |
14:05 | * https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]y_format=advanced | |
14:06 | missing release notes for 21.05 ^ | |
14:06 | tuxayo | only critical and blocker? |
14:06 | ashimema | :) |
14:06 | No majors.. or Only majors? | |
14:06 | Joubu | * https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate the 21.05 candidates |
14:06 | ashimema | ah, yes.. |
14:06 | Critical/Blockers.. that makes sense | |
14:06 | Joubu | no >= majors! |
14:06 | no < majors! | |
14:07 | * https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.11_roadmap | |
14:07 | ^ the roadmap for 21.11, please add your names. New topics poped up | |
14:07 | tuxayo | Ok, the calendar says "Only > major", it seemed odd |
14:07 | Joubu | there are still rooms for all of you |
14:07 | please read again the whole document and put your names there | |
14:08 | * and, a new one: https://annuel.framapad.org/p/[…]ech_release_notes | |
14:08 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #297: SUCCESS in 57 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/297/ |
14:08 | Joubu | I will send an email to the list shortly. You know the idea already. We want to highlight what has been done for this cycle |
14:08 | Arggggg | |
14:08 | https://annuel.framapad.org/p/[…]ech_release_notes | |
14:08 | This ^, we are still in 21.05.. | |
14:09 | I am messing with everything | |
14:09 | so, with all the effort I made to create confusions, do you have any questions? | |
14:10 | #link https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]y_format=advanced | |
14:10 | #link https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate | |
14:10 | #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.11_roadmap | |
14:10 | #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/[…]ech_release_notes | |
14:10 | tcohen | is there a deadline for the roadmap? |
14:11 | :-D | |
14:11 | Joubu | we decided on June 1st IIRC |
14:11 | fridolin | Git repository shrinking++ |
14:12 | Joubu | fridolin: add your name to "Remove remaining SQL based installers", we will need you (and few others) for fr-FR |
14:12 | and UNIMARC | |
14:12 | fridolin | ich id like to see jajm on that better |
14:13 | i prefer focus on other parts like ES | |
14:13 | Joubu | yeah, I prefer to focus on other parts as well |
14:13 | but it needs to be done | |
14:13 | fridolin | indeed |
14:13 | ashimema | we're so close.. :| |
14:13 | Joubu | I'd like to ask Nicolas and Séverine from BULAC, and Sonia |
14:14 | ashimema | don't let it get to a third RM having to deal with it. |
14:14 | ;) | |
14:14 | fridolin | yep |
14:14 | i add my name to it | |
14:14 | Joubu | thx |
14:14 | tcohen: I'd like you on Remove Mod/AddItemFromMarc from item form | |
14:14 | ashimema | fridolin, can you envisage a hackfest this coming cycle? |
14:14 | it's the sort of thing where trapping the right people in a room for half a day and it'll be done.. | |
14:14 | tcohen | Joubu sure! |
14:15 | Joubu | tcohen: we need to decide for the merge of the old/deleted* tables |
14:15 | if we continue or drop | |
14:15 | tcohen | we should do it |
14:15 | fridolin | ashimema: sure, as soon as possible HF in marseille |
14:15 | Joubu | so it must be on the roadmap |
14:15 | * ashimema | needs to renew his passport |
14:16 | ashimema | We should do it.. |
14:16 | Joubu | pubs reopening today in France so hackfest is possible finally |
14:16 | ashimema | but I don't know what's still required.. |
14:16 | tcohen | +1 |
14:16 | ashimema | is that not the one tomas and I pouired hours into QAing once.. perhaps twice.. already? |
14:16 | things have moved again since then.. but I think it's another one that feels very close and need a final push | |
14:16 | lol | |
14:16 | Joubu | bug 20271 and bug 25260 |
14:17 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables |
14:17 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Merge 'reserves' and 'old_reserves' into a new 'holds' table | |
14:17 | * ashimema | thinks some items on the roadmpa would lend themselves to group hack sessions at hackfest |
14:18 | tuxayo | fridolin: if you can raise the question at BibLibre, because there are chances that a hackfest will be possible in the last months of the year |
14:19 | Joubu | ok, moving on? |
14:19 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master build #1652: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/1652/ |
14:19 | Joubu | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
14:19 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 May 2021) | |
14:19 | fridolin | sure |
14:20 | Release of 20.11.06 will be around 25 | |
14:20 | i'm up to date with master | |
14:20 | nothing pending i'd say | |
14:20 | Joubu: are there backoports to higlight ? | |
14:21 | Joubu | I don't know |
14:21 | tcohen | yes |
14:22 | fridolin | whooo I see Kyle and Nick will be on 21.05.x, super cool |
14:22 | tcohen | bug 28351 is mandatory for all stables down to 20.05 |
14:22 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28351 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Cannot set restrictions when 'dateformat' is other than 'us' |
14:22 | cait1 | :) |
14:22 | hackfest++ | |
14:23 | for the raodmap: i put some comments also on the older ones - maybe check those | |
14:23 | fridolin | hackfest in Marseille is probably for 2022, sorry |
14:23 | tuxayo | ok, noted 28351 to watch |
14:23 | cait1 | too bad... maybe we shoudl try a virtual one |
14:23 | fridolin | oki notes |
14:23 | noted | |
14:23 | tcohen | +1 for an improvised hackfest once they allow us to get into Europe |
14:23 | fridolin | i'll catch master on friday |
14:24 | cait1 | so people can plan on having free time for a timeframe and we could use zoom rooms or so |
14:24 | ashimema | virtual hackfest perhaps? |
14:24 | so we have something to look forward to this year? | |
14:24 | fridolin | yep but real IPA ^^ |
14:24 | cait1 | yeah, not hte same by far... |
14:24 | tcohen | fridolin hehe |
14:24 | ashimema | indeed |
14:24 | cait1 | but it could be helpful still to some extend |
14:24 | i think the french librairans had one with some success? | |
14:24 | fridolin | we made a virtual biblibre meeting with online games a night and real IPAs |
14:24 | tuxayo | :D |
14:24 | Joubu | yes but they had real cheese, not virtual |
14:25 | tcohen | oleonard is 'get rid of jquery-ui' already on the roadmap? |
14:25 | oleonard | No, but in my mind the datepicker was the biggest impediment to doing so |
14:25 | If we agreed on a replacement that would really push the process forward. | |
14:26 | cait1 | makes sense |
14:26 | fridolin | +1 |
14:26 | tcohen | go for it! |
14:27 | ashimema | perhaps ask henryb and wananui to help find an accessibility friendly one? |
14:27 | tuxayo | *Wainui |
14:27 | ashimema | dang.. thanks |
14:27 | keyboard blurr.. :P | |
14:28 | oleonard | I can work on a test patch with flatpickr just to get a feel for it |
14:28 | ashimema | :) |
14:29 | tcohen | oleonard++ |
14:29 | Joubu | so, moving on? :D |
14:29 | hard to stick to the current topic :) | |
14:29 | tcohen | but, for the sake of the meeting, add it to the roadmap |
14:29 | Joubu | # Actions from last meeting |
14:29 | #topic Actions from last meeting | |
14:29 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 May 2021) | |
14:30 | Joubu | * ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) |
14:30 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27695 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to stable , Fix style of messages on Elasticsearch configuration page |
14:30 | ashimema | I was aiming to do it for next cycle.. |
14:30 | Joubu | #action ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) |
14:30 | ashimema | kinda thought the next dev meeting was next cycle.. last meeting.. oops |
14:30 | so one last postpone ;) | |
14:30 | hugs | |
14:30 | Joubu | * kidclamp Ask the ML for additional info about how to implement opt-out for notices. One idea would be to have "My message" at the OPAC (postponed) |
14:31 | #action kidclamp Ask the ML for additional info about how to implement opt-out for notices. One idea would be to have "My message" at the OPAC (postponed) | |
14:31 | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) | |
14:31 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 May 2021) | |
14:32 | Joubu | we can discuss anything you want now :) |
14:32 | ashimema | Too close to end of cycle for me.. my brain is |
14:32 | mush | |
14:32 | hehe | |
14:33 | thd | Sleep and eating some mushy mush helps with brain mush ;) |
14:34 | * thd | needs more sleep at the moment |
14:34 | oleonard | Same. |
14:34 | Joubu | #topic Set time of next meeting |
14:34 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 May 2021) | |
14:35 | Joubu | #info Next meeting: 2 June 2021, 14 UTC |
14:35 | #endmeeting | |
14:35 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
14:35 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed May 19 14:35:14 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
14:35 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-05-19-14.02.html | |
14:35 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]1-05-19-14.02.txt | |
14:35 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]19-14.02.log.html | |
14:35 | ashimema | +1 |
14:35 | thanks Joubu | |
14:35 | tuxayo | thanks Joubu for chairing, thanks everyone |
14:35 | * thd | will post another wiki DB migration and update next week with many fixes. |
14:35 | fridolin | thank Joubu |
14:36 | * ashimema | gets back to the brain breaking enhancement a customer has asked for |
14:36 | Joubu | please guys, the release notes, the technical release notes, and the 21.11 roadmap <3 |
14:36 | ashimema | :) |
14:37 | Joubu | and, eventually, if you have some time after that, there are a blocker for the release. Bug 28385 |
14:37 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28385 critical, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , ldap server configuration broken since migration from XML::Simple |
14:37 | ashimema | ack.. I should probably have spotted that one! |
14:37 | ldap xml is funky in place | |
14:38 | tuxayo | I'll ask for a test plan in the ticket (if anyone know, feel free to add one), I know almost nothing about LDAP but I have hope ^^ |
14:39 | Joubu | and bug 28386, ashimema will have a look but maybe additional eyes are needed |
14:39 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28386 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Replace dev_map.yaml from release_tools with .mailmap |
14:39 | tuxayo | enhancement? |
14:39 | Joubu | enhancement from the RM, it's blocker for the release ;) |
14:39 | tuxayo | oh ok, it's release_tools |
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14:53 | * thd | sleeps a little ... |
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17:17 | reiveune | bye |
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