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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 01:06 | brad joined #koha | |
| 01:07 | brad | hello |
| 01:08 | does anybody knows how to create a php script that imports partrons data w/ md5 password to koha bcrypt encryption password? | |
| 01:09 | tuxayo | hi brad :) |
| 01:09 | brad | coz we want to integrate/automate our existing database to koha ..thanks |
| 01:10 | tuxayo | > partrons data w/ md5 password |
| 01:10 | So it's not the plain text password | |
| 01:10 | > to koha bcrypt encryption | |
| 01:10 | It's not possible to set passwords from just their MD5 | |
| 01:11 | AndrewFH joined #koha | |
| 01:14 | brad | we want to migrate our old koha 2.2.9 borrowers table w/ md5 password to latest koha 20.11 brycrpt |
| 01:16 | tuxayo | It's not straitforward possible. There might be ways to circumvent that with some efforts. |
| 01:17 | I don't have experience in this but, by the same way your new patrons and staff have their password set, you could use that way after upgrading Koha and loosing the passwords in the process. | |
| 01:17 | It's just an idea that came to my mind | |
| 01:18 | That could mean a lot of manual setting of passwords ^^" | |
| 01:19 | https://koha-community.org/man[…]atron-import-file | |
| 01:19 | > If your passwords are already encrypted, talk to your systems administrator about options | |
| 01:19 | i.e. it will get complicated ^_^" | |
| 01:21 | brad | is there any we can create a php script that insert patron data on koha databae borrowers table? |
| 01:21 | we dont knw ta bycrypt type koha use | |
| 01:21 | tuxayo | Sure, it's just a regular table on whatever DBMS (database) you have |
| 01:22 | "ta" ? | |
| 01:22 | brad | "the" |
| 01:22 | tuxayo | ok |
| 01:23 | brad | coz in our old koha 2.2.9 we create a php script that will automatically insert borrowers/patron data in md5 when new enrolled student created in our main database |
| 01:27 | tuxayo | Are there variation of bcrypt? |
| 01:28 | brad | old koha uses md5 while latest koha uses bcrypt type password |
| 01:30 | tuxayo | brad: hey it should work straitforward! :D |
| 01:30 | https://git.koha-community.org[…]/C4/Auth.pm#L2024 | |
| 01:30 | > # check what encryption algorithm was implemented: Bcrypt - if the hash starts with '$2' it is Bcrypt else md5 | |
| 01:30 | of course there is something like that, otherwise it would be a huge mess upgrading old Koha's which is what you are doing | |
| 01:31 | IIUC the new password (new users or change of password) when done via Koha should use Bcrypt by default | |
| 01:32 | > we create a php script that will automatically insert borrowers/patron data in md5 when new enrolled student created in our main database | |
| 01:32 | You mean it's not via Koha that the password are chosen and saved? | |
| 01:37 | brad | we want student portal password and kohas patron password will be the same |
| 01:40 | and also employees accounts | |
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| 01:54 | tuxayo | brad: I see. It would be great to adapt the php script to use bcrypt for new passwords. So in case of DB leak, these passwords would be much much safely protected. |
| 01:54 | So will be the other accounts elsewhere of the persons using the same passwords. | |
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| 06:24 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 06:28 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:16 | nlegrand | Bonjour #koha! |
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| 08:39 | dcook | Ahhhhh Plack. Whyyyy |
| 08:39 | haha | |
| 08:39 | ashimema | hugs |
| 08:44 | matts | I can feel the desperation in that scream, dcook :) |
| 08:46 | dcook | Thanks ashimema and matts :) |
| 08:46 | It looks like if you mount a PSGI app within another PSGI app.. it doesn't quite work the way the documentation says it should | |
| 08:46 | It'll find the nested app, but the higher level app does this weird internal 404 thing.. | |
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| 08:47 | dcook | Maybe I'm doing somethign wrong but it's weiiird |
| 08:52 | Unless.. | |
| 08:54 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 08:54 | dcook | Yep nope makes no sense :( |
| 08:56 | pastebot | "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "plack being the worst" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/417 |
| 09:03 | dcook | It's handling a 302 ok so it must be something else.. |
| 09:08 | Ugh... Mojolicious does some really weird stuff.. | |
| 09:08 | Or maybe it's just Koha.. | |
| 09:08 | Something is very messed up | |
| 09:09 | Getting tonnes of 200 statuses for things that are actually 404s.. | |
| 09:11 | For example: http://localhost:8081/mojo | |
| 09:16 | Whelp even more discouraged than I was this morning. Wasted 2 hours of my life for nothing :D. | |
| 09:17 | ciao #koha | |
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| 10:06 | fridolin | i have issue with unstable deb |
| 10:06 | E: Impossible de récupérer http://debian.koha-community.o[…]e177268-1_all.deb 404 Not Found [IP : 67.220.127.145 80] | |
| 10:07 | where do i find unstable repo ? | |
| 10:07 | * fridolin | on bionic |
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| 10:34 | oleonard joined #koha | |
| 10:35 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 10:39 | fridolin | Bug 28327 never ending story of delimiter ;) |
| 10:39 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28327 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , System preference CSVdelimiter special case for tabulation |
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| 11:38 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:39 | ashimema | morning tcohen |
| 11:39 | hope you are well today? | |
| 11:39 | tcohen | I am |
| 11:39 | :-D | |
| 11:39 | ashimema | excellent :) |
| 11:41 | * ashimema | is looking at the roles page before the meeting later today.. |
| 11:42 | ashimema | I'm tempted to rename Joubu's new 'IRC Meeting Facilitator' idea to something else.. to showcase it's as much about helping make sure the roadmap progresses as it is about chairing meetings. |
| 11:43 | it's almost a 'Community manager/Community secretary/chair' role (which also sounds better on paper so might be an easier sell to the purse string holders in companies) | |
| 11:43 | tcohen | I've just noticed we include jquery.validate, and am happy he |
| 11:43 | ashimema | hehe |
| 11:44 | I use it extensively in some of the accounts stuff | |
| 11:44 | It has its quirks but is generally pretty usable | |
| 11:45 | magnuse | did the behaviour of searching for tags change at some point? example: i have a koha where q=perl returns 5 hits. then i have tagged 2 of those records + 1 other record with "perl". the link from the tag is tag=perl&q=perl. that only gives 3 hits. i was expecting 6 = the union(?) of all of the records tagged with "perl" and all records that contain "perl" somwhere in the marc data |
| 11:46 | or am i just misremembering how this used to be? | |
| 11:55 | oleonard | All I know is that the whole tags feature is neglected... has it changed at all since it was first introduced? |
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| 12:06 | Joubu | oleonard: can you have a second look at bug 27899 please? |
| 12:06 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27899 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Missing description for libraryNotPickupLocation on request.pl |
| 12:06 | Joubu | would be good to have it pushed today (string freeze) |
| 12:24 | oleonard | ByWater sandboxes STILL down? Anyone know what's going on with that? |
| 12:27 | Joubu | ¡Ya esta! https://translate.koha-communi[…]g/projects/21.05/ |
| 12:30 | oleonard | PTFS-E sandboxes very popular :) |
| 12:33 | tcohen | great! |
| 12:33 | ashimema | :) |
| 12:34 | khall ^ | |
| 12:35 | * ashimema | is actually surprised to see ptfs-e sandboxes up still at the moment.. i though i had them limited to 8 at the moment but it seems I forgot to reset from 10.. it's a bit under-resourced for 10.. |
| 12:35 | ashimema | still.. whilst it's working I shant touch it.. haha |
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| 12:56 | henryb | Hi everyone |
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| 12:56 | oleonard | tcohen: I can reproduce Bug 27899 using my usual testing database but not using the sample data. Do you know anything more specific about how to trigger the bug? |
| 12:56 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27899 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Missing description for libraryNotPickupLocation on request.pl |
| 13:00 | henryb | Can/should you use koha testing docker to create and edit plugins? I'm trying to learn more about plugins from the excellent guides around but I'm too much of a beginner to follow the beginner's guides :( |
| 13:01 | ashimema | tcohen has added stuff to make k-t-d good for developing plugins.. |
| 13:01 | must admit though.. I've not really used it myself for that yet | |
| 13:01 | tcohen | I use it daily |
| 13:03 | ashimema | any tips for henryb |
| 13:03 | khall joined #koha | |
| 13:04 | khall | oleonard yep, they are still down. we are waiting on rackspace to upsize our private cloud so we can reluanch that server |
| 13:05 | tcohen | henryb I'm opening my configuration files |
| 13:05 | ashimema | what size server are/were they running on khall |
| 13:05 | tcohen | henryb are you familiar with the aliases we have? |
| 13:05 | khall | ashimema I really don't know, that's an Ops question ;) |
| 13:05 | ashimema | Joubu is getting the biblibre one's setup and used the specs of the ptfs-e server to get an idea of what he needs.. our server is remarkably low spec for what it's running.. not really sure how it's still alive |
| 13:05 | hehe | |
| 13:06 | no worries | |
| 13:06 | tcohen | however you launch KTD, take a look at the docker-compose.plugin.yml file |
| 13:06 | henryb | tcohen yes I know ku/kd etc. but I have no idea how they work in the background |
| 13:07 | tcohen | ok, then you have access to kup |
| 13:07 | the ku + plugin alias | |
| 13:07 | you need to set PLUGIN_REPO=your/plugin/path | |
| 13:07 | ashimema | you have to set another env right.. to point to a plugin |
| 13:07 | tcohen | before running it |
| 13:07 | ashimema | hehe.. way ahead of me |
| 13:07 | Joubu | It's 1G for the elastic container, then 1G per sandbox |
| 13:08 | so with 8G you can have MAX 6 sandboxes | |
| 13:08 | ashimema | lol.. so 11gb for the ptfs-e one's right now.. and I have only 6gb physical.. must be swapping like mad lol |
| 13:08 | tcohen | henryb: once you launch with 'kup' instead of the old 'ku' you need to tweak koha-conf.xml to point to /kohadevbox/koha_plugin |
| 13:09 | * ashimema | needs to nip to the shops before the meeting.. bbiab |
| 13:09 | henryb | so you work on the plugin outside of KTD and point KTD to the plugin files and test it works using KTD? Rather than editing the plugin code directly from within KTD? |
| 13:09 | tcohen | exactly |
| 13:10 | henryb | thanks for showing me kup - I had missed that alias! |
| 13:10 | tcohen | I use vscode for coding |
| 13:11 | henryb | Thank you tcohen that makes much more sense now! |
| 13:11 | tcohen++ | |
| 13:11 | tcohen | a sec |
| 13:11 | do you already have the plugin? | |
| 13:11 | structure? | |
| 13:12 | henryb | I thought I'd start trying to edit an existing plugin but maybe it would be better to follow your example from the Koha advent |
| 13:13 | tcohen | ah, good idea |
| 13:13 | henryb | So you need to have gulp and npm etc. running locally rather than just in KTD? |
| 13:13 | tcohen | ashimema Joubu should we start planning the KohaAdvent21? |
| 13:13 | henryb that's why I was asking, I use a docker container to run the build | |
| 13:15 | https://gitlab.com/thekesoluti[…]ontainer_registry | |
| 13:15 | that's old (node v8) | |
| 13:15 | will update it | |
| 13:16 | cait1 | tcohen: should it be on the roadmap? |
| 13:16 | :) | |
| 13:16 | tcohen | yes! could you write it down? |
| 13:16 | I'm rushing to write some patches for holds while my brain is not completely useful | |
| 13:16 | cait1 | not right now, but thought worth writing it down smewhere |
| 13:16 | we'll have to rememberlater then :) batch editing stuff here | |
| 13:17 | tcohen | *useless |
| 13:17 | ah damn | |
| 13:17 | I'll go write it | |
| 13:17 | haha | |
| 13:17 | bad cait | |
| 13:17 | kidclamp | cait++ |
| 13:17 | tcohen++ | |
| 13:18 | you're both good :-) | |
| 13:18 | cait1 | thx kidclamp :) |
| 13:20 | tcohen | thanks, indeed |
| 13:20 | cait1 | hm no good reason why we can't search sort1 and sort2 from orders... are there? |
| 13:20 | and the note fields | |
| 13:20 | *sigh* | |
| 13:21 | tcohen | where are you looking at? |
| 13:21 | *holds * holds (says a little fairy in my brain) | |
| 13:22 | cait1 | acq advanced search |
| 13:22 | it would totally make sense to have them there, but we don't | |
| 13:22 | it#s ok, just looking for a field the library can use | |
| 13:22 | on order line level | |
| 13:24 | Joubu | cait1: I have it in my calendar since last december ;) |
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| 13:26 | * tcohen | is anxious to rewrite all orders listing pages with the API now |
| 13:27 | cait1 | tcohen: i am very worried about you |
| 13:27 | tcohen | I'll be fine haha |
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| 13:49 | oleonard-away | Anyone know if there is a reason for an "x-code" attribute on a <script> tag? I can't seem to Google up anything about it. |
| 13:51 | oleonard | Hm, I guess it's just an odd hack? https://git.koha-community.org[…]c/overdue.tt#L176 |
| 13:52 | https://git.koha-community.org[…]c/overdue.tt#L267 | |
| 13:56 | kohaputti | the translation strings got just pushed? |
| 13:57 | tuxayo | Hi #koha :) |
| 13:57 | cait1 | tuxayo++ |
| 13:57 | tuxayo | ? |
| 13:57 | cait1 | thx for working on all the hard bugs :) |
| 13:57 | mailnig list etc. | |
| 13:57 | love it | |
| 13:57 | nlegrand | ^^ |
| 13:57 | tuxayo | thanks for the weekly emails, it's motivating :D |
| 13:58 | cait1 | yay :) |
| 13:58 | Joubu | kohaputti: yes, the 21.05 project has been created few hours ago |
| 13:59 | kohaputti | Joubu, awesome |
| 14:01 | Joubu | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 12 March 2021 |
| 14:01 | huginn | Meeting started Wed May 12 14:01:31 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 12 March 2021) | |
| 14:01 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_12_march_2021' |
| 14:01 | tuxayo | #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France |
| 14:01 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_12_May_2021 |
| 14:01 | nugged | o/ |
| 14:01 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio USA |
| 14:02 | ashimema | funny.. we don't have any Bugwrangler standing yet |
| 14:02 | kohaputti | #info Joonas Kylmälä |
| 14:02 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:02 | ashimema | that post is usually one that fills up |
| 14:02 | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK | |
| 14:02 | * ashimema | is waiting on a confirmation to add a name to that little group |
| 14:02 | Joubu | #topic Introductions |
| 14:02 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 12 March 2021) | |
| 14:03 | Joubu | #chair ashimema |
| 14:03 | huginn | Current chairs: Joubu ashimema |
| 14:03 | Joubu | #chair cait |
| 14:03 | ashimema | qa_team? |
| 14:03 | huginn | Warning: Nick not in channel: cait |
| 14:03 | Current chairs: Joubu ashimema cait | |
| 14:03 | tuxayo | ha ha |
| 14:03 | Joubu | I am in a meeting, please help me chairing |
| 14:03 | ashimema | sure thing |
| 14:03 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 14:03 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:03 | henryb | #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK |
| 14:04 | nugged | #info Andrew Nugged, National Library of Finland, Oulu |
| 14:04 | Joubu | #topic Announcements |
| 14:04 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 12 March 2021) | |
| 14:04 | Joubu | Anyone have something? |
| 14:04 | ashimema | Koha is awesome! |
| 14:04 | Joubu | #info Koha is awesome! |
| 14:05 | ashimema | :P |
| 14:05 | You've sent out the release schedule and dates.. we could remind people the email is out there ;) | |
| 14:05 | Joubu | #info String freeze is today! |
| 14:05 | kohaputti | was? :) |
| 14:05 | Joubu | Nothing much PQA today so I think you are good for starting the translation |
| 14:05 | petrov_ | #info Petro Vashchuk, National Library of Finland, Oulu |
| 14:06 | tcohen | can we wait one more day? |
| 14:06 | :-d | |
| 14:06 | Joubu | kohaputti: Bernardo told me he can regenerate the strings if needed later today |
| 14:06 | kohaputti | Joubu, ok |
| 14:06 | ashimema | #info Release is scheduled for 28th May - Keep your final bugfixes and qa momentum going everyone :) |
| 14:07 | Joubu | #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) |
| 14:07 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Manager (21.05) (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 12 March 2021) | |
| 14:07 | ashimema | nice to see you patrov_ :) |
| 14:07 | Joubu | all good for me, please focus on the 21.05 tag |
| 14:07 | https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate | |
| 14:07 | that's the one you should have bookmarked already | |
| 14:08 | there are some there that are blocker for the release | |
| 14:08 | bug 28317 | |
| 14:08 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28317 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Remove CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml dependency by using the default serializer |
| 14:08 | Joubu | bug 28302 |
| 14:08 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28302 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha does not work with CGI::Compile 0.24 |
| 14:08 | Joubu | bug 28200 |
| 14:08 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28200 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Net::Netmask 1.9104-2 requires constructor change for backwards compatibility |
| 14:08 | Joubu | at least those 3 |
| 14:09 | ashimema | Their at the top of my list for after this meeting ;) |
| 14:09 | it's been a busy few days :| | |
| 14:09 | Joubu | n |
| 14:09 | need eyes on bug 27916 | |
| 14:09 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27916 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Fee paid message can crash SIP server if paying fee that is not "renewable" |
| 14:09 | Joubu | and there are 4 criticals (check the dashboard), waiting for patches! |
| 14:10 | * ashimema | will have another go at a test |
| 14:10 | Joubu | any questions? |
| 14:10 | cait1 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:10 | Joubu | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 14:10 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 12 March 2021) | |
| 14:10 | Joubu | rmaints? |
| 14:10 | cait1 | sorry,... my alarm didn't go off |
| 14:11 | Joubu | @later tell rangi wahanui is not with us! |
| 14:11 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:12 | tuxayo | > wahanui is not with us! |
| 14:12 | We can't do confettis! | |
| 14:12 | Joubu | #info stable releases are scheduled for 24/25th |
| 14:13 | #topic Election of the Koha 21.11 Release Team | |
| 14:13 | Topic for #koha is now Election of the Koha 21.11 Release Team (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 12 March 2021) | |
| 14:13 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_21.11 |
| 14:13 | Do we missing people there? | |
| 14:13 | cait1 | tuxayo: right... might have to postpone elections withotu confettis! ;) |
| 14:13 | tuxayo | lol |
| 14:13 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:14 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:14 | oleonard | ✧*｡٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و✧*｡ <- confetti alternative |
| 14:14 | Joubu | Thanks ashimema for picking the IRC role! |
| 14:14 | ashimema | no worries.. |
| 14:14 | Joubu | caroline_catlady: no more in the documentation team? |
| 14:14 | ashimema | hopefully I can make it feel like a good role for someone to step into for the 22.05 cycle |
| 14:15 | Joubu | ashimema: AndrewFH told me he is willing to do it for 22.05! |
| 14:15 | kohaputti | Is Agustin Moyano wanting to continue in QA? |
| 14:15 | Agustin was in 21.05 release team | |
| 14:15 | Joubu | (I have proof of that) |
| 14:15 | ashimema | I just added Sally as a bugwrangler.. she's just getting the go ahead for it from her boss ;).. we can remove it if she doesn't but I wanted it on there for the vote |
| 14:15 | tcohen | yes |
| 14:15 | he forgot to add himself | |
| 14:15 | Agustin | |
| 14:16 | cait1 | I think we could still nominate caroline_catlady later - if she is not around now |
| 14:16 | henryb | Sally++ |
| 14:16 | cait1 | i think she wanted to, but was still figuring out docs manager role? |
| 14:16 | Sally++ | |
| 14:16 | ashimema | indeed |
| 14:16 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]or_RM_21.11_joubu |
| 14:17 | from this link, there is "Most of my time will be on RM duties and help the 21.11 roadmap topics" | |
| 14:17 | #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.11_roadmap | |
| 14:17 | which is really what I would like to do next cycle, focussing on what is in the roadmap | |
| 14:17 | cait1 | makes sense to me |
| 14:17 | Joubu | if you need my help, please add your topic/work there |
| 14:17 | tcohen | Agreed |
| 14:17 | ashimema | +1 |
| 14:18 | tcohen | what is the deadline for the roadmap? |
| 14:18 | Joubu | I won't help nothing big not in the roadmap |
| 14:18 | tcohen | :-D |
| 14:18 | cait1 | I'll try to check out the roadmap for possible additions before next week |
| 14:18 | if that's ok? | |
| 14:18 | Joubu | June 1st |
| 14:18 | * ashimema | too |
| 14:18 | ashimema | I've had a quick look but not a really detailed one yet.. I don't want to over-commit myself this time ;) |
| 14:19 | Joubu | good idea, ashimema ;) |
| 14:19 | cait1 | are we planning on prioritizing projects too? |
| 14:19 | can we info that? | |
| 14:19 | Joubu | you can still help other topics when you will have done all the ones you commited to |
| 14:19 | kohaputti | The C4-namespace stuff is still causing delays in fixing bugs |
| 14:19 | tcohen | ashimema can you help me with the holds table again, this cycle? |
| 14:19 | cait1 | #info June 1st is the deadline for the 21.11 roadmap |
| 14:19 | ashimema | certainly tcohen |
| 14:20 | cait1 | i am a little worried we will get a long list but be spread out too much |
| 14:20 | maybe good to mark what you will be focusing on first /highest priority | |
| 14:20 | also helps to see where we need to push qa/testing | |
| 14:21 | ashimema | as part of 'IRC Meeting Facilitator' we talk about keeping roadmap topics on track.. that's where I intend on focusing most of my effort in that role (and I suggested perhaps we rename the role if it makes sense to) |
| 14:21 | Joubu | kohaputti: I've stopped working on moving code from C4 to Koha because it took too long to get the changes tested and QAed |
| 14:21 | ashimema | we want to keep the list short and work through it.. if we finish one, perhaps we can add another in it's place.. capping a maximum that can appear on it at any given time or something along those lines. |
| 14:21 | Joubu | cait1: topics without enough people will be moved down |
| 14:22 | ashimema | yup |
| 14:22 | cait1 | Joubu: maybe we can talk sometime about how the move could progress (namespace) |
| 14:22 | henryb | Oops, I just added mine at the top |
| 14:22 | cait1 | if it's accessilbity that might be a good spot :) |
| 14:23 | Joubu | henryb: no worries, we will reorder later |
| 14:23 | ashimema | all good henry.. we'll sort them once we have an initial list and have pinned people down to help ;) |
| 14:23 | cait1 | I got to leave in 5 minutes, but could you count a +1 from me for the elections? Really happy overall, especially with growing QA team |
| 14:23 | ashimema | #link https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.11_roadmap Provisional Roadmap for 21.11 |
| 14:23 | cait1 | everyone signing up fresh for QA: expect a weekly email from me :) |
| 14:23 | Joubu | yes, nice QA team :) |
| 14:25 | what's the vote syntax? | |
| 14:25 | tcohen | yes :-D |
| 14:26 | cait1 | it's on the chairing meetings wiki page :P |
| 14:26 | ashimema | / #startvote <Question> <Options, comma separated> |
| 14:26 | cait1 | i think it's startvote question options |
| 14:26 | yep | |
| 14:26 | and end with a ? | |
| 14:26 | or it won't like it | |
| 14:26 | the question part :) | |
| 14:26 | ashimema | #startvote Do we agree to vote in the next release team as it stands on the wiki page right now? Yes, No, Abstain |
| 14:26 | huginn | Begin voting on: Do we agree to vote in the next release team as it stands on the wiki page right now? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
| 14:26 | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | |
| 14:27 | cait1 | #vote yes |
| 14:27 | ashimema | #vote Yes |
| 14:27 | tuxayo | #vote yes |
| 14:27 | tcohen | #vote yes |
| 14:27 | henryb | #vote yes |
| 14:27 | Joubu | #vote yes |
| 14:27 | cait1 | got to go! reading back later! |
| 14:27 | tcohen | wait, is is case sensitive? |
| 14:27 | thd | #vote Yes |
| 14:27 | tcohen | #vote Yes |
| 14:27 | tuxayo | hum |
| 14:27 | oleonard | #vote Yes |
| 14:27 | * tuxayo | check the old votes |
| 14:28 | kohaputti | probably yes, but who is Wainui Witika-Park for 19.11 release maintainer? |
| 14:28 | ashimema | I've never worked out if it's case sensative.. but it does take your last vote if you vote twice ;) |
| 14:28 | khall | #vote Yes |
| 14:28 | henryb | #vote Yes |
| 14:28 | tuxayo | kohaputti: Wainui is from Catalyst |
| 14:28 | ashimema | She is new at catalyst kohaputti, she's been working through accessability bugs to date |
| 14:28 | kohaputti | ok, I trust you guys, then my vote: |
| 14:29 | #vote yes | |
| 14:29 | ashimema | but.. she will have the backup of a good team at catalyst behind her.. Aliesha, Chris etc. |
| 14:29 | nugged | #vote yes |
| 14:29 | tuxayo | Vote isn't case sensitive |
| 14:29 | Joubu | nugged: great to see you around ;) |
| 14:29 | ashimema | OK.. will give it another minute for stragglers then call it. |
| 14:30 | 5 | |
| 14:30 | 4 | |
| 14:30 | 3 | |
| 14:30 | kidclamp | #vote yes |
| 14:30 | ashimema | 2 |
| 14:30 | 1 | |
| 14:30 | #endvote | |
| 14:30 | huginn | Voted on "Do we agree to vote in the next release team as it stands on the wiki page right now?" Results are |
| 14:30 | Yes (12): Joubu, cait1, oleonard, ashimema, tuxayo, kohaputti, khall, kidclamp, henryb, tcohen, nugged, thd | |
| 14:30 | tuxayo | confetti! |
| 14:30 | tcohen | confetti! |
| 14:30 | ashimema | 🎊 |
| 14:30 | tuxayo | ✧*｡٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و✧*｡ |
| 14:31 | ashimema | confetti! |
| 14:31 | tuxayo | ✧*｡٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و✧*｡ |
| 14:31 | 🎊 | |
| 14:32 | oleonard | ٩(✪ꀾ⍟༶)و |
| 14:32 | (ง ͡ʘ ͜ʖ ͡ʘ)ง | |
| 14:32 | ashimema | #topic Actions from last meeting |
| 14:32 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 12 March 2021) | |
| 14:32 | ashimema | Looks like it was a clear slate last meeting :) |
| 14:32 | anyone have any other buisines? | |
| 14:32 | thd | Good to see that some of my system fonts work for confetti :) |
| 14:32 | tuxayo | ^^ |
| 14:33 | ashimema | ok |
| 14:33 | #topic Time for next meeting | |
| 14:33 | Topic for #koha is now Time for next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 12 March 2021) | |
| 14:33 | * ashimema | should have prepped this bit |
| 14:34 | Joubu | 14UTC |
| 14:34 | ashimema | 16th June sound reasonable.. |
| 14:34 | Joubu | 9th is in 4w |
| 14:34 | * ashimema | tries to remember the syntax or the script.. it's been a while ;) |
| 14:34 | Joubu | otherwise it will overlap with dev meeting |
| 14:34 | tuxayo | #info Next meeting: 26 July 2017, 14 UTC |
| 14:35 | ashimema | #info Next meeting: 09 June 2021, 14 UTC |
| 14:35 | ok with everyone? | |
| 14:35 | tuxayo | shoots, it's #info so my example ended up in the log :o |
| 14:35 | ashimema | ok, lets call it that then :) |
| 14:35 | #endmeeting | |
| 14:35 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 14:35 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed May 12 14:35:56 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:35 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-05-12-14.01.html | |
| 14:35 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]1-05-12-14.01.txt | |
| 14:35 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]12-14.01.log.html | |
| 14:36 | ashimema | thanks everyone |
| 14:36 | kohaputti | thanks! |
| 14:36 | tuxayo | See you in 2017 o/ |
| 14:36 | tcohen | koha++ |
| 14:36 | Joubu++ | |
| 14:36 | tuxayo | thanks for chairing joubu++ ashimema++ |
| 14:38 | thanks oleonard for supplying the backup confettis | |
| 14:38 | henryb | Thanks all! |
| 14:38 | oleonard | tuxayo: We saw you in 2017, so I guess your message back in time worked |
| 14:38 | tuxayo | :o |
| 14:39 | tcohen | indeed :-D |
| 14:39 | tuxayo | nope, started in october 2017 |
| 14:40 | henryb | Terrible film pitch: someone creates a time machine and uses it to attend more meetings |
| 14:40 | oleonard | Shoot I didn't check the month :D |
| 14:40 | tcohen | henryb hahahaha |
| 14:41 | oleonard | Basically what Hermione did with the Time-Turner in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. |
| 14:41 | tuxayo | good film pitch: use it to report bad bugs and bring patches from the future |
| 14:44 | henryb | Amazing film pitch: use it to write patches for future bugs not yet reported |
| 14:45 | Unfortunately, the bugs all get together and send a super bug back in time to break the time machine | |
| 14:45 | oleonard | We find out in the future that once enough bugs are reported in Bugzilla, the bugs become sentient. |
| 14:46 | tuxayo | time machine running Koha lol. Talk about feature creep |
| 14:46 | oleonard | If we check the log I think you'll find that adding a time machine to Koha has always been part of the plan. |
| 14:47 | ashimema | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Release_Teams#21.05_Team updated :) |
| 14:49 | tuxayo | BTW what does the C4 namespace means? |
| 14:49 | oleonard | Modules in the C4 directory instead of Koha |
| 14:54 | ashimema | The system they had at Horowhenua before Koha was called C2 or something like that I think.. |
| 14:54 | so they called Koha's module namespace 'C4' as a throw back.. | |
| 14:54 | something like that anyway | |
| 14:55 | * ashimema | asked rangi once |
| 14:55 | henryb | Is this official? By wizzyrea: https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/koha-releases |
| 14:56 | "Koha was originally called "C4" which according to Rosalie Blake at HLT meant "Cheap, Cheerful Copy of Catalist" (their former system)." | |
| 14:56 | "According to Chris Cormack, C4 meant "It might go asplodey in your face." Little known fact: Koha was also briefly named Kumara (sweet potato)" | |
| 14:56 | tuxayo | :D thanks for these infos |
| 14:56 | tcohen | I always thought it was a reference to code4lib.org |
| 14:56 | :-D | |
| 14:56 | ashimema | nice find henry |
| 14:57 | oh cool | |
| 14:57 | oleonard | henryb: wizzyrea would have been working with good data but it doesn't look like it was maintained |
| 14:57 | ashimema | I love that.. 'Cheap, Cheerful Copy of Catalist' is a much cooler history |
| 14:57 | * ashimema | commits that to his memory instead |
| 14:57 | ashimema | I did know about Kumara though :).. |
| 14:57 | I'm sure I've seen that mentioned a few times | |
| 14:58 | Joubu | and kumara history is still available (and counted in the git stats) |
| 14:59 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_and_Shrinking | |
| 14:59 | not that link | |
| 14:59 | https://git.koha-community.org[…]-community/kumara | |
| 14:59 | tuxayo | :D |
| 14:59 | Joubu | https://git.koha-community.org[…]63cedb198dc65e120 |
| 15:03 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:04 | tuxayo | 21 years ago ^^" |
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| 15:04 | tuxayo | And there was an automated test! |
| 15:06 | fridolin | Joubu: hi, Bug 27621 do I backport ? |
| 15:06 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27621 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Pushed to master , Remove it-IT installer data |
| 15:06 | Joubu | no |
| 15:07 | fridolin | ok thanks |
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| 15:13 | tuxayo | Some long history article about Koha: https://librarytechnology.org/document/24481 |
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| 15:16 | cait1 | :) |
| 15:16 | we have a holiday here tomorrow, back Friday latest | |
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| 15:17 | henryb | Enjoy your holiday cait1! Do the other caits get the day off too? |
| 15:17 | ashimema | lol |
| 15:18 | tuxayo | Enjoy! cait1 :) |
| 15:18 | cait1 | henryb: i sure hope so! |
| 15:18 | :) | |
| 15:18 | henryb | :D |
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| 15:19 | * tuxayo | will continue reading the history latter. |
| 15:19 | tuxayo | In case that helps, here are the explicitly highlighted tickets during the meeting: bug 28317 bug 28302 bug 28200 bug 27916 |
| 15:19 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28317 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, In Discussion , Remove CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml dependency by using the default serializer |
| 15:19 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28302 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha does not work with CGI::Compile 0.24 | |
| 15:19 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28200 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Net::Netmask 1.9104-2 requires constructor change for backwards compatibility | |
| 15:19 | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27916 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Fee paid message can crash SIP server if paying fee that is not "renewable" | |
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| 15:28 | fridolin | Joubu: Bug 28248 I must backport right ? |
| 15:28 | huginn | Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28248 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Exception when getting all orders |
| 15:29 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:30 | well, it's not in master, it's for 20.11 | |
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| 15:30 | fridolin | oki |
| 15:30 | thanks again | |
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| 15:48 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 18989: DBRev 20.12.00.050 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]99f9ddc1c7f949982> |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 28189: (QA folloq-up) Fix fallback case <https://git.koha-community.org[…]208ad2e5f5d58586a> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 28091: Only show for logged in users <https://git.koha-community.org[…]6fe527ffb1cdfde1a> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 18989: Restore hidding items on detail <https://git.koha-community.org[…]9a37ac6bdb3efc3a1> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 18989: (QA follow-up) Make controllers use Koha::Biblio->hidden_in_opac <https://git.koha-community.org[…]805d81c698ac8e550> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 18989: (QA follow-up) Make Koha::Biblio->hidden_in_opac aware of OpacHiddenItemsH... <https://git.koha-community.org[…]2b74f2301b80d6649> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 28189: Move swagger file to YAML format <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d9ffe3ddc334f4070> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 18989: Fix syspref's value selection <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0dd53f7085b3e4585> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 28091: add meta content with Koha version to staff client pages <https://git.koha-community.org[…]332e54fb6c390a70c> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 18989: (QA follow-up) Have new preference default to current behaviour <https://git.koha-community.org[…]717feab44597cd17a> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 18989: (QA follow-up) Terminology fixes and linking the system preference in... <https://git.koha-community.org[…]f97111416c653cf21> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 18989: Add atomic update <https://git.koha-community.org[…]bf40c6d61387c257d> | |
| 15:48 | News from kohagit: Bug 18989: Allow displaying biblios with all items hidden by OpacHiddenItems <https://git.koha-community.org[…]361394844b3d1e5e3> | |
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