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| 07:33 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:33 | wahanui | que tal, reiveune |
| 07:52 | cait | first timer bug fix on bug 27829! This is no practice! :) |
| 07:52 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 07:52 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 08:03 | Joubu | Hi there |
| 08:03 | wahanui | bidet, Joubu |
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| 08:04 | cait1 | good morning #koha |
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| 08:42 | ashimema | Mornin' #koha |
| 08:42 | 27829? | |
| 08:43 | I don't see a bug with that number cait1 | |
| 08:43 | cait1 | bug 27829 |
| 08:43 | hm typoed | |
| 08:43 | 27820 | |
| 08:43 | will I ever get a bug number right on hte first try? | |
| 08:43 | ashimema | lol |
| 08:44 | cait1 | found it? |
| 08:44 | ashimema | yup |
| 08:44 | oopsie on my part.. can't imagine how I left out the use line | |
| 08:44 | cait | :) |
| 08:44 | ashimema | will get onto it later today |
| 08:44 | just QAing bug 22690 at the minute | |
| 08:45 | cait | which bot are we missing? huginn? |
| 08:45 | gmcharlt: are you around and could you bring back our beloved huginn bot? :) | |
| 08:50 | Joubu | ashimema: I am a bit worried about this one. The cronaction statement is there since the first patch. Does it mean the patch never got tested correctly? |
| 08:50 | cait | maybe logs were turned off? |
| 08:50 | not sure if that would do it i didn't touch that one myself | |
| 08:51 | ashimema | Well, in the end I never implemented/updated the plugins I wrote it for to use it.. as it was ended up way more contentious than I thought.. I had a local test plugin I used to test it when i wrote it |
| 08:52 | maybe no-one tested it after.. I wouldnt' surprise me that I managed to miss our a final merged commit with the use statement so it worked locally but the patch was bad | |
| 08:52 | grr | |
| 08:52 | I'm still torn about this one now... I'd really like to see a team effort for getting the task queue viable and usable as a schedular | |
| 08:52 | but I have no idea when or if anyone is going to commit to that | |
| 08:53 | cait | this enh hs been backported |
| 08:53 | Joubu | for next cycle I'd say |
| 08:53 | cait | and is in the standard crontab... i think push the fix fast and then care about the future :) |
| 08:53 | ashimema | mm |
| 08:54 | Joubu | If it hasn't been tested it must be reverted from stable |
| 08:56 | ashimema | I actually thought we exported cronlogaction from Koha::Script.. but it appears not |
| 08:57 | cait | Joubu: we can revert, but will it remove lines from crontabs? I just merged ours and never sure how that works for people that use standard packages |
| 08:57 | so it might be more disruptive than fixing? | |
| 09:02 | Joubu | we can fix and test more carefully, yes |
| 09:09 | mtj: ? | |
| 09:09 | mtj: we need a fix for 26893 ASAP, please give me some updates about it | |
| 09:09 | @later tell mtj we need a fix for 26893 ASAP, please give me some updates about it | |
| 09:15 | ashimema | can anyone here see a reason not to add a proper constraint between aqorders and items? |
| 09:16 | or rather.. aqorders_item and items | |
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| 09:21 | cait | in which way? |
| 09:21 | i mean how do you want to constrain it? | |
| 09:21 | i think there are reasons to keep it | |
| 09:21 | if you break the connection, we lose the information about orders from deleted items | |
| 09:21 | so ... i think this could be a reason | |
| 09:22 | ashimema | as in... it's really odd to have a link table where links can be broken |
| 09:22 | cait | we want to know why an item was deleted, it being connected to a cancelled order is valuable |
| 09:22 | i am pretty usre i use that connection in our inventory book reports | |
| 09:22 | and you can unbreak it... it's only broken because of our split table design | |
| 09:23 | ashimema | god damn I hate our 'delete_' tables |
| 09:23 | cait | that's a discussion for another day |
| 09:23 | ashimema | so you actually want broken relationships |
| 09:23 | cait | no |
| 09:23 | i want theinformation | |
| 09:23 | and as i can not get it otherwiese, we cannot add the constraint now i think | |
| 09:24 | ashimema | your right |
| 09:24 | we can't add it because we use the deleted tables stuff | |
| 09:24 | which is a right pain | |
| 09:24 | cait | don't disagree there |
| 09:24 | ashimema | I think bug 22690 is a fqa then |
| 09:25 | cait | i really miss that bot |
| 09:25 | ashimema | me too |
| 09:25 | cait | oh |
| 09:25 | does it constrain? | |
| 09:26 | i would not even have thought of a database chance in there | |
| 09:27 | to #koha - checking version numbers on our demos now to update website, if you plan an update or want it updated within the month, let me know https://koha-community.org/demo/ | |
| 09:27 | ashimema | it doesn't.. |
| 09:27 | but what it does do is add a dbic relation | |
| 09:28 | problem is.. I tihnk that relation will explode in some cases where the key's are broken | |
| 09:30 | cait | ah I see |
| 09:31 | good catch | |
| 09:42 | ashimema | I feel mean |
| 09:42 | this patch is pretty good.. but I'm finding lots of little hard to spot edge cases. | |
| 09:49 | ' i can not not plan! i am german!' | |
| 09:49 | That's gotta be cait | |
| 10:01 | full circle on PQA and FQA.. first of the month makes this easy.. hehe | |
| 10:10 | is `Alvaro Cornejo` new? | |
| 10:14 | Joubu | no |
| 10:15 | ashimema | okies.. thanks |
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| 10:20 | ashimema | just need to find a bug to rescue now and my occupation will be complete.. mwhahaha.... |
| 10:30 | occupation complete :) | |
| 10:30 | https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ | |
| 10:30 | wahanui | i think https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ is up again :D |
| 10:33 | Joubu | it's a fragile one, it's only "1"! |
| 10:33 | I am sure you can do better | |
| 10:33 | :D | |
| 10:33 | ashimema | hahah |
| 10:34 | I was laying down the gauntlet.. don't want to make it too hard for people :P | |
| 10:35 | Joubu | bots, I pushed things! |
| 10:35 | ashimema | no bots :( |
| 10:36 | Joubu | ha, indeed |
| 10:42 | cait | hm? where did my quote come from? |
| 10:42 | ashimema | dashboard random quotes |
| 10:42 | cait | ah I see :) |
| 10:43 | maybe someone could email gmcharlt? | |
| 10:43 | (not me) heh | |
| 10:43 | anti-spam email config is so annoying | |
| 10:56 | fridolin | Bug 27820 this feature never worked :) |
| 10:56 | wahanui: ? | |
| 10:56 | wahanui | no idea, fridolin |
| 10:56 | fridolin | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27820 |
| 10:58 | ashimema | in production I reckon yes, it didn't work |
| 10:59 | we had a copy of it I used whilst testing.. I must have forgotten to squash in the use fix for the bugzilla entry.. and no-one noticed | |
| 10:59 | cait | fridolin++ |
| 11:01 | ashimema | it was written with the recalls plugin in mind |
| 11:06 | fridolin | https://github.com/bywatersolu[…]chen-sink/pull/15 for our beloved plugin |
| 11:06 | some other hooks are missing there | |
| 11:07 | ashimema | ooh.. good point |
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| 11:21 | ashimema | humm.. anyone here familiar with IPC and forking/threading... |
| 11:22 | I like bug 27267 but am imagining finding someone to QA it could be challenging. | |
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| 11:38 | TimothyAlexis | How should this system preference be written in opac.pref? |
| 11:38 | ('OpacAllowPickupLocationChange','','Pending, In-Transit, Suspended','Allow patrons to change pickup location for these statuses.).','multiple'), | |
| 11:40 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:42 | TimothyAlexis | Also, I'm wondering if 'suspended' should be one of the options. We don't use that one at our library. |
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| 11:43 | pastebot | "TimothyAlexis" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Is this correct for opac.pref?" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/27944 |
| 11:44 | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "TimothyAlexis: My suggestion:" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/27945 | |
| 11:46 | TimothyAlexis | That's a better description. |
| 11:48 | If anyone notices the syntax error in what I posted at [12:38], I've fixed it... | |
| 11:49 | oleonard++ | |
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| 12:11 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #516: SUCCESS in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/516/ |
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| 12:37 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:38 | slef | tcohen: good $TZAG |
| 12:39 | tcohen | hi slef! |
| 12:39 | slef | Has anyone a copy of koha-common_19.05.04*.deb cached anywhere that they can let me download, please? |
| 12:40 | (I think someone has been editing a koha without leaving notes...) | |
| 12:42 | https://download.koha-community.org/old_releases/ contains the tarballs not debs... or I could build it from clean git... hmm | |
| 12:43 | oleonard | Hi slef. Sorry, all I've got here is a Scrabble tile with the letter E (1 point), a 1984 50-cent coin, and a 64MB SanDisk SmartMedia camera memory card. |
| 12:45 | slef | oleonard: what are you doing with the contents of my saddlebag? |
| 12:46 | oleonard | slef: You thought you had a magical bag of holding but it turns out it just empties into my junk drawer. |
| 12:47 | slef | oleonard: go north |
| 12:47 | tcohen | great album |
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| 12:54 | Joubu | oleonard: do you agree with the patches on 27473? |
| 12:54 | IMO we are missing the "if not" part | |
| 12:55 | * oleonard | will look now |
| 12:55 | Joubu | otherwise it's like the 2 actions are unrelated |
| 12:58 | oleonard | Joubu: to be honest I think we should remove the text about the redirect. Why have it at this stage of the process? What's it for? |
| 13:03 | I see that cait made a similar comment on the bug | |
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| 13:11 | TimothyAlexis | I'm looking at opac-reserve.pl and opac-reserve.tt to check the logic for the pick up location <select> element. |
| 13:11 | tcohen | in which Koha version? |
| 13:12 | TimothyAlexis | Currently I'm looking at 20.05.03 |
| 13:12 | oleonard | Joubu: I've attached a suggested revision. |
| 13:13 | TimothyAlexis | What are these? "options_for_libraries" and "at_least_one_library_not_available_for_pickup" |
| 13:13 | Joubu | thanks oleonard, I was about to attach a patch :) |
| 13:14 | oleonard: mine was removing the redirect actually | |
| 13:14 | oleonard | I'm fine with that too, I just didn't think it mattered that much if it was still there |
| 13:15 | TimothyAlexis | If I want to add this <select> to the holds-table.inc, is there anything I need to think about in opac-user.pl ? |
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| 13:21 | cait | slef: is there none on debian.kc.org? |
| 13:21 | oh oops.... scroll down first, cait | |
| 13:23 | TimothyAlexis: I didn't realize before that you worked with Maria - can you say hi from me? I saw her comment at the meeting, but didn't get to respond :) | |
| 13:23 | tcohen | slef maybe we should start using gitlab's artifact repo |
| 13:24 | as an intermediate storage/cache | |
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| 13:26 | cait | oleonard-away: got a nice new bug report - the button for doing batch due date change is not displaying in chrome |
| 13:26 | i hate those :( | |
| 13:28 | oh, fixed with 20.05 at least | |
| 13:34 | Joubu | cait: 27099 maybe? |
| 13:38 | cait | ths one looks very suspicious at least! |
| 13:39 | thx | |
| 13:40 | Joubu++ | |
| 13:41 | oleonard | cait: I'm sending this message back in time so that we don't create a paradox |
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| 13:48 | oleonard | Who started referring to it as a "MARC flavor" ? I've come to the sudden realization that that is weird. |
| 13:48 | TimothyAlexis | cait: Done ;) |
| 13:50 | It was nice to see you and I think it is good for everyone to get some motivation to contribute. | |
| 13:50 | Thank you for the presentation. | |
| 13:51 | cait | it was great to "get out" a little bit :) |
| 13:52 | and thx for forwarding my message! | |
| 13:52 | TomothyAlexis++ | |
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| 15:31 | cait | oleonard: maybe... they were thinking of making it sound nicer... this way it makes you forget about the MARC part and think about icecream? |
| 15:32 | caroline_catlady | icecream++ |
| 15:33 | Cookie dough MARC | |
| 15:35 | oleonard | I suspect the usage passed from "flavors of Unix" to "flavors of Linux" to "flavors of MARC" |
| 15:36 | I guess if your sysadmin is installing Koha the term won't sound too weird. | |
| 15:38 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1572: FAILURE in 4 min 9 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1572/ |
| 15:39 | oleonard | I was thinking it would be nice to let the user know what steps were coming up: https://snipboard.io/mDg9i1.jpg |
| 15:39 | caroline_catlady | oleonard: your hypothesis makes more sense, but I prefer cait's :P |
| 15:40 | looks nice! | |
| 15:45 | @leter tell rangi now that the server issues are resolved, can you change the link for the "latest" manual to point to 20.11? | |
| 15:45 | @later tell rangi now that the server issues are resolved, can you change the link for the "latest" manual to point to 20.11? | |
| 15:46 | hm | |
| 15:46 | huginn is gone? | |
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| 16:07 | slef | Does everyone else get the Bowie song in their head when they see the starman process running or is it just me? |
| 16:07 | oleonard | I did reading that question |
| 16:08 | tcohen | of course |
| 16:10 | cait | caroline_catlady: now that I have mentioned icecream and you are in agood mood |
| 16:10 | do you have a moment for 2 questions? :) | |
| 16:10 | caroline_catlady | of source |
| 16:10 | course | |
| 16:11 | though the fact that I need to be in a good mood kinda scares me | |
| 16:11 | cait | I think we are finished with manual po for 20.05 now - how do I get those into the main repo and then on the website? :) |
| 16:11 | do you do that or should i create a pull request somehow? | |
| 16:11 | * oleonard | knows caroline_catlady has such a bad reputation for her temper ;) |
| 16:11 | caroline_catlady | You can create a pull request... I just have to find you the link |
| 16:11 | 1 sec | |
| 16:12 | https://translate.koha-community.org/tools/ | |
| 16:12 | cait | ok, I will give it a go |
| 16:12 | caroline_catlady | it should automatiqucally create a merge request in the manual repo |
| 16:12 | cait | the next question: have you talked to Bernardo about po files for 20.11 yet? |
| 16:13 | hm you don't have to give the language, that' sok? | |
| 16:13 | caroline_catlady | no, I keep forgetting... I'll add it to my to-do priority for today |
| 16:13 | cait | thank you! |
| 16:13 | caroline_catlady | yeah it's for evertyhing |
| 16:13 | cait | do you know when that was last done? becuase the translations on the website seemed quite old compared with bernardo's preview |
| 16:13 | shuld i put your email or mine? | |
| 16:14 | caroline_catlady | I did it in december |
| 16:14 | you can put in my email | |
| 16:14 | cait | hm ok, then it might explain it, i will check again once merged |
| 16:14 | caroline_catlady | caroline.cyr-la-roseinlibro.com |
| 16:14 | I think maybe ashimema did it more recently to set up the automatisation | |
| 16:15 | cait | it did finish |
| 16:16 | we now got all chapters translted but systempreferences and license... | |
| 16:16 | and it took forever :) | |
| 16:17 | caroline_catlady | I know, I'm so disenhearted by our manual (in fr-CA), its so much work I don't even know where to begin |
| 16:18 | ashimema around? | |
| 16:18 | at least if you're up to date, future translations should be quicker | |
| 16:19 | I got the email from the pull request, but it didn't create a merge request in the manual | |
| 16:20 | cait | caroline_catlady: we had a bit of help, but even then it takes long and it needs a proof reading - stuff like broken links slip in quickly |
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| 16:24 | caroline_catlady | cait do you remember what was the other thing I had to ask Bernardo? About the duplication of koha-community.org/manual vs translate.koha-community.org/*manual |
| 16:25 | I think we wanted to point from koha-community.org directly to his manusl, was that it? | |
| 16:28 | cait | sorry, i think I was not around for that discussion |
| 16:28 | oh not sure | |
| 16:28 | but that would resolve some issues | |
| 16:28 | probably need ashimema for this one | |
| 16:28 | it might be solved by bigger disc? but not sure | |
| 16:29 | caroline_catlady | we got the bigger disc from wizzyrea, but eventually, it's going to be a problem again, i think |
| 16:29 | ashimema | hi |
| 16:30 | caroline_catlady | hi! |
| 16:31 | cait and I are trying to get the new de-DE translations into the manual | |
| 16:31 | she did the pull request from the tool, but It's not creating a merge request in the manual repo | |
| 16:32 | ashimema | wizzyrea doubled the disk for us |
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| 16:32 | ashimema | but yes.. eventually it will be a problem again if we don't start archiving off the old manuals somehow |
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| 16:33 | ashimema | they're growing in size quickly now.. with each translation duplicating all the images etc |
| 16:34 | oleonard | I wonder if there has been any call for more barcode types in the patron card creator tool |
| 16:38 | ashimema | looking at why merge request didn't happen |
| 16:38 | problem with this stuff is we write it and then no-one uses it for 6 months | |
| 16:38 | caroline_catlady | yeah... sorry :/ |
| 16:42 | ashimema | merge request is there now caroline |
| 16:42 | not sure what cait did.. | |
| 16:42 | it just worked for me | |
| 16:43 | caroline_catlady | Do I have to do seomthing once I get the email? |
| 16:43 | ashimema | you won't get the email this time.. I put my own in to test it. |
| 16:43 | what you will see is a merge request in gitlab | |
| 16:43 | just clikg the merge button | |
| 16:44 | except.. it already says it can't be merged.. | |
| 16:44 | ffs | |
| 16:44 | caroline_catlady | Yeah, I don't see the merge button... It's like there is a merge request without a commit |
| 16:46 | ashimema | what version did you translate cait? |
| 16:47 | caroline_catlady | 20.05 |
| 16:47 | Translation update - Koha manual 20.05 - 20210301 (2021-03-01 13:15:06 -0300) | |
| 16:48 | ashimema | ok |
| 16:48 | I ran it for 20.11 | |
| 16:48 | I'll have another go | |
| 16:51 | caroline_catlady | ah, maybe it didn't work because there are no 20.11 po files right now |
| 16:52 | ashimema | there will be in a minute if I can work it out |
| 16:53 | caroline_catlady | I just emailed Bernardo, I put you (cait and ashimema) in cc |
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| 17:05 | cait | oh sorry, got pulled into something here |
| 17:05 | but yes, we worked on 20.05 and are finished for now - so hence wanting to update before moving on to 20.11 | |
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| 17:53 | oleonard | @seen chrisn |
| 17:54 | Oh dang is that huginn too? | |
| 17:54 | * oleonard | should have @seened chris_n anyway |
| 17:55 | oleonard | gmcharlt: around? |
| 17:56 | * oleonard | wonders why we offer the barcode types we do.... several others are in the code and commented out |
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| 18:35 | * oleonard | forgot about Bug 26692 |
| 18:36 | shakes his fist at missing huginn | |
| 18:36 | oleonard | Add barcode image generator service for OPAC https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26692 |
| 18:41 | khall_: Around? | |
| 18:59 | rangi | will do caroline_catlady |
| 18:59 | caroline_catlady | thx rangi! |
| 19:03 | rangi | done |
| 19:04 | caroline_catlady | rangi++ |
| 19:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 19:33 | oleonard | I like that there is a barcode format called "daft." |
| 19:36 | caroline_catlady | lol! |
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| 19:57 | * oleonard | foolishly wonders how hard it would be to rebuild the patron card creator in JavaScript |
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| 20:14 | cait | are you getting bored? |
| 20:14 | bug 100 | |
| 20:14 | still no huginn eh? | |
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| 20:33 | slef | when you use build-git-snapshot does it save the git changelog since the last version tag in the build anywhere? |
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