IRC log for #koha, 2021-02-26

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00:22 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org
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00:34 marie-luce have a lovely day or night all
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07:06 marcelr hi #koha
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07:07 marcelr dashboard sleepy ?
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07:54 reiveune hello
07:59 cait1 good morning #koha
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08:10 jsicot Morning #koha
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09:00 ashimema morning
09:01 magnuse hiya ashimema
09:03 ashimema How is everyone today.. good I hope :-)
09:04 cait1 just finished talking to the swedish user group about bugzilla, so we can expect many new bug reports incoming i hope
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09:05 ashimema woopie
09:05 likely any code will come of those bugs?
09:05 or even better.. signoffs?
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09:07 cait1 small steps !
09:08 * ashimema is in a bug unsticking mood this morning.. hope it doesn't end up like wading through treacle
09:08 cait1 this was about using bugzilla, so aiming for commenting, what status means wheat etc.
09:08 heh
09:10 ashimema coolios
09:12 magnuse i have talked about signoffs to them, could probably be done again :-)
09:13 ashimema :D
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11:21 kohaputti ashimema, https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=25690#c14 – you had good comments there, I'm preparing follow-up but we can't get the destination branch without more refactoring so I will leave that job to someone else (or me later). Can I ask you does "Item is on hold and in transit for NAME" sound good as warning message?
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11:22 kohaputti or "Hold found for NAME and item is in transit"
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11:23 kohaputti The other messages use the word Reserve vs. Hold, but if I remember right Hold was the preferred term nowadays
11:23 oleonard Correct
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11:25 kohaputti uh, I think I might just go with "Item has an hold and is in transit for NAME", someone correct me if ungrammatical :P
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11:27 oleonard Sound good to me kohaputti
11:29 tuxayo Hi #Koha :)
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11:38 ashimema sounds good to me kohaputti :)
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11:40 ashimema yeah, I had a feeling it might be challenging to get the transit to location.. it's weird.. holds and transfers seem to internlinked, but then when you dig into the code they're not at all well linked
11:40 your solution is nice and pragmatic and I'm more than happy with it :)
11:40 It's a great piece of work
11:40 kohaputti added a comment about that, we need to pass around Koha::Hold to make it happen
11:41 but this series is already big enough for one person to review so not adding more stuff here
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12:01 TimothyAlexis Does anyone know where I can get the hold statuses? Such as Waiting, In transit, etc...
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12:02 TimothyAlexis And also, if it would be possible to use these as options in a multiple select system preference. bug 14783
12:03 https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14783
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12:08 oleonard TimothyAlexis: Some of it comes from the value in reserves.found
12:09 TimothyAlexis: But in-transit isn't a hold status
12:11 I guess the "T" value for reserves.found corresponds to a transfer
12:11 TimothyAlexis :\
12:12 What is in-transit then?
12:12 oleonard In-transit means there is an entry in branchtransfers which doesn't have  a "datearrived" value
12:13 The fact that this information is duplicated probably leads to problems when the transfer or the hold status isn't updated correctly in both places.
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12:16 kohaputti TimothyAlexis, if you have Koha::Hold object then $hold->found() should work
12:16 depending on your use case, note that there is also $hold->is_found
12:17 TimothyAlexis I'm thinking about the statuses in the holds table at https://koha-test.lub.lu.se/cg[…]l#opac-user-holds
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12:18 TimothyAlexis The setting would define for which of these a patron is allowed to change pickup location.
12:19 And rather than hardcoding the options into the system preference, I'm thinking it would be better to get them.
12:20 oleonard Much of it is based on reserves.found, but there's also information from reserves.suspend
12:20 kohaputti hmm, do we do anywhere exception handling, like could Koha::Hold::set_pickup_location just throw not allowed and then the script would need to handle that?
12:21 oleonard TimothyAlexis: I don't think there's a single official list that will let you avoid hardcoding it
12:21 TimothyAlexis So perhaps it would make sense to hardcode them?
12:21 cait1 i think so
12:21 they are pretty static and people can't add to them
12:21 TimothyAlexis OK, thank you.
12:22 kohaputti hard coding sounds the way to go for me as well, because we don't have hold_statuses table or anything.
12:22 and pretty much everywhere it is hard coded, but I am planning to submit a patch for that...
12:22 cait1 and I am not aware of bugs adding other statuses - i think they have been like that forever
12:22 kohaputti cait1, I added recently the processing status
12:25 oleonard kohaputti: A status which can appear in reserves.found?
12:25 kohaputti yes
12:25 currently we have: T, P, W
12:26 oleonard Under what circumstances is a hold "P" ?
12:28 kohaputti if you have selected the holdsneedprocessingsip syspref, so then when book is returned via a SIP2 machine it goes to processing instead of being immediately available/waiting. Especially useful now during COVID-19 when books needs to be "quarantined"
12:34 oleonard I was today years old when I learned about the HTML <datalist> element. :|
12:35 * oleonard feels oblivious
12:35 tcohen morning
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12:37 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
12:41 tcohen \o/
12:46 oleonard would Bug 27805 cause problems for systems which use some kind of non-standard local value for something like KohaAdminEmailAddress? Some kind of localhost address?
12:46 https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27805
12:52 I guess the default root@localhost is considered valid, so I shouldn't worry.
13:07 Do email preferences typically accept multiple values?
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13:17 TimothyAlexis Which statuses can appear in the /cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl#opac-user-holds table? I know Pending, In-transit and Waiting, are there any more?
13:19 oleonard Suspended, Suspended until <date>
13:23 TimothyAlexis oleonard++
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14:14 magnuse huh, trying to make a custom xslt, i copied the marc21 intranet detail xslt and MARC21slimUtils.xsl to /home/vagrant/kohaclone/, set  XSLTDetailsDisplay to the right path, set <xsl:import href="/home/vagrant/kohaclo​ne/MARC21slimUtils.xsl"/>, restarted all the things. but detail view does not show any data from the marc record. nothing in the logs. what am i forgetting?
14:17 oleonard magnuse: Did you do the little dance and say the magic words?
14:17 magnuse gah, that must be it!
14:18 @quote add oleonard> magnuse: Did you do the little dance and say the magic words?
14:19 oleonard Did you copy MARC21Languages.xsl?
14:19 magnuse oops
14:20 oleonard I think that one is fairly new, and I think it tripped me up the last time I was trying to make it work.
14:20 magnuse right you are!
14:20 oleonard++ a thousand times over
14:21 oleonard Hooray, my past pain has helped someone!
14:21 magnuse and it is included from the util file, not the main xslt...
14:21 yeah, that saved me some hours and some grey hair, i bet
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14:40 caroline oleonard-away: did you ever read Strange planet? If not, I think it'd be right up your alley :)
14:47 oleonard caroline: The comic?
14:48 caroline yes
14:48 with the aliens
14:54 oleonard I've seen it here and there... On the other hand I re-watched La Planète sauvage just the other day!
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15:09 caroline huh, I didn't know the reference! Then again, I'm not much a fan of experimental french movies
15:30 ashimema wizzyrea++ #gifting us more disk for the manuals
15:30 caroline When I go to https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/ and click on Administration, I get a "Not found" error, can someone confirm it's not just me?
15:30 ashimema I've just triggered a couple of builds for you caroline.. hopefully we'll have up to date 20.11 and 21.05 manuals again soon
15:30 yup
15:30 caroline ah that must be it
15:30 ashimema it's not just you
15:30 that's what I just fixed.
15:30 but it'll take a while for the builds to run now
15:31 https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]anual/-/pipelines
15:31 caroline thanks ashimema! wizzyrea++
15:31 ashimema see the two blue spinning ones ;)
15:45 cait1 ashimema++ caroline++ wizzyrea++
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15:56 oleonard cait1: Did you see my recent comment on Bug 5697?
15:59 reiveune bye
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16:24 cait1 oleonard: sorry way behind on bug mail, hope to catch up over the weekend
16:24 bug 5697
16:24 oleonard no huginn, no gmcharlt!
16:26 cait1 scary!
16:26 your comment reads good
16:26 if the space issue is always ther we should just file a separate bug for it i guess?
16:27 oleonard You're right I'll go ahead and do that
16:30 cait1 but yep, i think back to qa for this one :)
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18:48 ashimema Yeah, first pair of successful builds for the manual for a while
18:48 20.11 and 21.05 links should be working now :)
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18:58 caroline ashimema++
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19:54 oleonard Maybe this? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=16143692116112
19:54 caroline cool!
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