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00:22 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
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00:34 | marie-luce | have a lovely day or night all |
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07:06 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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07:54 | reiveune | hello |
07:59 | cait1 | good morning #koha |
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08:10 | jsicot | Morning #koha |
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09:00 | ashimema | morning |
09:01 | magnuse | hiya ashimema |
09:03 | ashimema | How is everyone today.. good I hope :-) |
09:04 | cait1 | just finished talking to the swedish user group about bugzilla, so we can expect many new bug reports incoming i hope |
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09:05 | ashimema | woopie |
09:05 | likely any code will come of those bugs? | |
09:05 | or even better.. signoffs? | |
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09:07 | cait1 | small steps ! |
09:08 | * ashimema | is in a bug unsticking mood this morning.. hope it doesn't end up like wading through treacle |
09:08 | cait1 | this was about using bugzilla, so aiming for commenting, what status means wheat etc. |
09:08 | heh | |
09:10 | ashimema | coolios |
09:12 | magnuse | i have talked about signoffs to them, could probably be done again :-) |
09:13 | ashimema | :D |
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11:15 | oleonard | HI #koha |
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11:21 | kohaputti | ashimema, https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=25690#c14 – you had good comments there, I'm preparing follow-up but we can't get the destination branch without more refactoring so I will leave that job to someone else (or me later). Can I ask you does "Item is on hold and in transit for NAME" sound good as warning message? |
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11:22 | kohaputti | or "Hold found for NAME and item is in transit" |
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11:23 | kohaputti | The other messages use the word Reserve vs. Hold, but if I remember right Hold was the preferred term nowadays |
11:23 | oleonard | Correct |
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11:25 | kohaputti | uh, I think I might just go with "Item has an hold and is in transit for NAME", someone correct me if ungrammatical :P |
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11:27 | oleonard | Sound good to me kohaputti |
11:29 | tuxayo | Hi #Koha :) |
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11:38 | ashimema | sounds good to me kohaputti :) |
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11:40 | ashimema | yeah, I had a feeling it might be challenging to get the transit to location.. it's weird.. holds and transfers seem to internlinked, but then when you dig into the code they're not at all well linked |
11:40 | your solution is nice and pragmatic and I'm more than happy with it :) | |
11:40 | It's a great piece of work | |
11:40 | kohaputti | added a comment about that, we need to pass around Koha::Hold to make it happen |
11:41 | but this series is already big enough for one person to review so not adding more stuff here | |
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12:01 | TimothyAlexis | Does anyone know where I can get the hold statuses? Such as Waiting, In transit, etc... |
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12:02 | TimothyAlexis | And also, if it would be possible to use these as options in a multiple select system preference. bug 14783 |
12:03 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14783 | |
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12:08 | oleonard | TimothyAlexis: Some of it comes from the value in reserves.found |
12:09 | TimothyAlexis: But in-transit isn't a hold status | |
12:11 | I guess the "T" value for reserves.found corresponds to a transfer | |
12:11 | TimothyAlexis | :\ |
12:12 | What is in-transit then? | |
12:12 | oleonard | In-transit means there is an entry in branchtransfers which doesn't have a "datearrived" value |
12:13 | The fact that this information is duplicated probably leads to problems when the transfer or the hold status isn't updated correctly in both places. | |
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12:16 | kohaputti | TimothyAlexis, if you have Koha::Hold object then $hold->found() should work |
12:16 | depending on your use case, note that there is also $hold->is_found | |
12:17 | TimothyAlexis | I'm thinking about the statuses in the holds table at https://koha-test.lub.lu.se/cg[…]l#opac-user-holds |
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12:18 | TimothyAlexis | The setting would define for which of these a patron is allowed to change pickup location. |
12:19 | And rather than hardcoding the options into the system preference, I'm thinking it would be better to get them. | |
12:20 | oleonard | Much of it is based on reserves.found, but there's also information from reserves.suspend |
12:20 | kohaputti | hmm, do we do anywhere exception handling, like could Koha::Hold::set_pickup_location just throw not allowed and then the script would need to handle that? |
12:21 | oleonard | TimothyAlexis: I don't think there's a single official list that will let you avoid hardcoding it |
12:21 | TimothyAlexis | So perhaps it would make sense to hardcode them? |
12:21 | cait1 | i think so |
12:21 | they are pretty static and people can't add to them | |
12:21 | TimothyAlexis | OK, thank you. |
12:22 | kohaputti | hard coding sounds the way to go for me as well, because we don't have hold_statuses table or anything. |
12:22 | and pretty much everywhere it is hard coded, but I am planning to submit a patch for that... | |
12:22 | cait1 | and I am not aware of bugs adding other statuses - i think they have been like that forever |
12:22 | kohaputti | cait1, I added recently the processing status |
12:25 | oleonard | kohaputti: A status which can appear in reserves.found? |
12:25 | kohaputti | yes |
12:25 | currently we have: T, P, W | |
12:26 | oleonard | Under what circumstances is a hold "P" ? |
12:28 | kohaputti | if you have selected the holdsneedprocessingsip syspref, so then when book is returned via a SIP2 machine it goes to processing instead of being immediately available/waiting. Especially useful now during COVID-19 when books needs to be "quarantined" |
12:34 | oleonard | I was today years old when I learned about the HTML <datalist> element. :| |
12:35 | * oleonard | feels oblivious |
12:35 | tcohen | morning |
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12:37 | magnuse | ¡hola tcohen! |
12:41 | tcohen | \o/ |
12:46 | oleonard | would Bug 27805 cause problems for systems which use some kind of non-standard local value for something like KohaAdminEmailAddress? Some kind of localhost address? |
12:46 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27805 | |
12:52 | I guess the default rootlocalhost is considered valid, so I shouldn't worry. | |
13:07 | Do email preferences typically accept multiple values? | |
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13:17 | TimothyAlexis | Which statuses can appear in the /cgi-bin/koha/opac-user.pl#opac-user-holds table? I know Pending, In-transit and Waiting, are there any more? |
13:19 | oleonard | Suspended, Suspended until <date> |
13:23 | TimothyAlexis | oleonard++ |
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14:14 | magnuse | huh, trying to make a custom xslt, i copied the marc21 intranet detail xslt and MARC21slimUtils.xsl to /home/vagrant/kohaclone/, set XSLTDetailsDisplay to the right path, set <xsl:import href="/home/vagrant/kohaclone/MARC21slimUtils.xsl"/>, restarted all the things. but detail view does not show any data from the marc record. nothing in the logs. what am i forgetting? |
14:17 | oleonard | magnuse: Did you do the little dance and say the magic words? |
14:17 | magnuse | gah, that must be it! |
14:18 | @quote add oleonard> magnuse: Did you do the little dance and say the magic words? | |
14:19 | oleonard | Did you copy MARC21Languages.xsl? |
14:19 | magnuse | oops |
14:20 | oleonard | I think that one is fairly new, and I think it tripped me up the last time I was trying to make it work. |
14:20 | magnuse | right you are! |
14:20 | oleonard++ a thousand times over | |
14:21 | oleonard | Hooray, my past pain has helped someone! |
14:21 | magnuse | and it is included from the util file, not the main xslt... |
14:21 | yeah, that saved me some hours and some grey hair, i bet | |
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14:40 | caroline | oleonard-away: did you ever read Strange planet? If not, I think it'd be right up your alley :) |
14:47 | oleonard | caroline: The comic? |
14:48 | caroline | yes |
14:48 | with the aliens | |
14:54 | oleonard | I've seen it here and there... On the other hand I re-watched La Planète sauvage just the other day! |
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15:09 | caroline | huh, I didn't know the reference! Then again, I'm not much a fan of experimental french movies |
15:30 | ashimema | wizzyrea++ #gifting us more disk for the manuals |
15:30 | caroline | When I go to https://koha-community.org/manual/20.11/en/html/ and click on Administration, I get a "Not found" error, can someone confirm it's not just me? |
15:30 | ashimema | I've just triggered a couple of builds for you caroline.. hopefully we'll have up to date 20.11 and 21.05 manuals again soon |
15:30 | yup | |
15:30 | caroline | ah that must be it |
15:30 | ashimema | it's not just you |
15:30 | that's what I just fixed. | |
15:30 | but it'll take a while for the builds to run now | |
15:31 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]anual/-/pipelines | |
15:31 | caroline | thanks ashimema! wizzyrea++ |
15:31 | ashimema | see the two blue spinning ones ;) |
15:45 | cait1 | ashimema++ caroline++ wizzyrea++ |
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15:56 | oleonard | cait1: Did you see my recent comment on Bug 5697? |
15:59 | reiveune | bye |
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16:24 | cait1 | oleonard: sorry way behind on bug mail, hope to catch up over the weekend |
16:24 | bug 5697 | |
16:24 | oleonard | no huginn, no gmcharlt! |
16:26 | cait1 | scary! |
16:26 | your comment reads good | |
16:26 | if the space issue is always ther we should just file a separate bug for it i guess? | |
16:27 | oleonard | You're right I'll go ahead and do that |
16:30 | cait1 | but yep, i think back to qa for this one :) |
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18:48 | ashimema | Yeah, first pair of successful builds for the manual for a while |
18:48 | 20.11 and 21.05 links should be working now :) | |
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18:58 | caroline | ashimema++ |
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19:54 | oleonard | Maybe this? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=16143692116112 |
19:54 | caroline | cool! |
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