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| 00:28 | liliputech_asu | hi koha |
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| 02:45 | liliputech_asu | bonjour inlibro j'ai retesté bz 14784 il y a encore des tests unitaires qui ne passent pas. j'ai vu que charles farmer avait repris ce bz, bon courage à lui! |
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| 06:12 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:43 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 07:59 | liliputech | bonjour |
| 08:00 | !later tell ashimema i've put some new on BZ 7376, if you have some time to check it out (also cait1 ) | |
| 08:03 | cait1 | with@ :) |
| 08:03 | bug 7376 | |
| 08:03 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7376 major, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Needs Signoff , Transfer limits should be checked at check-in |
| 08:05 | liliputech | oh ^^ thanks cait1 :) |
| 08:05 | @later tell ashimema i've put some new on BZ 7376, if you have some time to check it out (also cait1 ) | |
| 08:05 | huginn | liliputech: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:06 | * liliputech | spends too much time talking to bots, not enough with humans so it seems |
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| 08:16 | liliputech | hi paul_p_ , hi lds |
| 08:19 | cait1 | :) |
| 08:21 | liliputech | @quote random |
| 08:21 | huginn | liliputech: Quote #152: "gmcharlt: Koha: unifying the world one library at a time" (added by wizzyrea at 02:19 PM, September 13, 2011) |
| 08:21 | liliputech | :) |
| 08:21 | :) | |
| 08:21 | @quote random | |
| 08:21 | huginn | liliputech: Quote #324: "<LibraryClaire> we had to improvise to get across switzerland" (added by magnuse at 09:03 AM, October 18, 2016) |
| 08:21 | liliputech | haha |
| 08:21 | @quote random | |
| 08:22 | huginn | liliputech: Quote #122: "<member:oleonard>Everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver" (added by wizzyrea at 03:01 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 08:22 | liliputech | @quote random |
| 08:22 | huginn | liliputech: Quote #122: "<member:oleonard>Everyone is doin' the hot new dance the Cracked Out Kitty Tail Shiver" (added by wizzyrea at 03:01 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 08:22 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 08:22 | liliputech | @quote random |
| 08:22 | huginn | liliputech: Quote #125: "<oleonard> gmcharlt: Or I could fill the tub with milk and cereal and lock them in the bathroom." (added by gmcharlt at 01:14 PM, April 06, 2011) |
| 08:22 | liliputech | haha nice ^^ |
| 08:26 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 27673: Fix t/Context.t <https://git.koha-community.org[…]5f354300339e8048d> |
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| 08:47 | ashimema | wha... |
| 08:47 | milk in a bath.. yuk | |
| 08:47 | kohaputti | anybody want to help with fixing some checkout problems (whether a patron can checkout a book or not is a bit buggy and lots of logic duplication)? I have few refactoring and bug fixes in my head and will start writing them to source files if I find interested people. Asking because the C4/Circulation.pm and C4/Reserves.pm is very prone to merge conflicts. This refactoring i have in mind would also help reducing the chances of |
| 08:47 | conflicts in future. | |
| 08:48 | ashimema | I'm totally on board with that |
| 08:48 | and totally owe you a big and painful QA run... C4/Circulation would certainly count | |
| 08:50 | kohaputti | whee, I guess I could be brave enough to start fixing it with one person interested in signing-off :) Let's see what I will have by the end of day. |
| 08:50 | ashimema | I could possibly talk Sally into that.. she's pretty good regards testing.. |
| 08:51 | or/and AndrewFH | |
| 08:51 | or/and severine_q | |
| 08:51 | for me.. those are the strongest SO team :) | |
| 08:52 | I reckon I could bend kidclamps are for QA too as a backup.. Circ is a big scary place :) | |
| 08:57 | liliputech_asu++ #bug rescue | |
| 08:59 | liliputech | ashimema: ur welcome, thanks for ur attention on that one in the first place :) |
| 09:03 | kohaputti | Joubu, I decided it was best to leave out the bug 22569 from the reviews at this time because that change was quite complicated, I noticed your comment number 46 there and most of the issues you raised there was due to the patches in this bug 22569 only and not on the dependent ones. |
| 09:03 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22569 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add a 'Transfers to send' report |
| 09:04 | kohaputti | Joubu, just saying this in case you are holding back on pushing the dependend bugs because of this, maybe it would be better to push bug 22569 only later when QA has reviewed it |
| 09:05 | Joubu | kohaputti: ok, thanks |
| 09:06 | kohaputti: About the circ refactoring - start with opening bug reports, to tell us what exactly is in your head ;) | |
| 09:08 | ashimema | Sorry I was off the last couple of days so haven't got to Joubu's comments yet |
| 09:08 | but yeah.. those final two patches, bug 22569 haven't been through QA yet.. I have cait lined up | |
| 09:08 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22569 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add a 'Transfers to send' report |
| 09:09 | ashimema | but.. thanks for the review anyways.. means I can start taking care of things :) |
| 09:09 | I'll just finish reviewing bug 7376 than jump back onto my own bugs 😉 :) | |
| 09:09 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7376 major, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Needs Signoff , Transfer limits should be checked at check-in |
| 09:10 | liliputech | ashimema++ |
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| 09:11 | kohaputti | Joubu, The bugs already have bug reports, although I don't think we have issues for logic duplications. I find bugzilla model kinda hard to work with when doing changes that do not relate to specific issues but just enhance code quality (like removing duplicated logic). |
| 09:12 | Joubu | why is bugz model a problem in that case? |
| 09:14 | kohaputti | Joubu, hmm maybe there is no problem, I was thinking release notes and dependency fields in BZ, but in release notes I could list all the improvements/fixes from the patches attached to that bug report |
| 09:16 | Like if I attach a series of patches to just one report and it fixes dozen other bug reports we have we can just probably add those as duplicate later when the series is pushed | |
| 09:16 | so I think I can make it work | |
| 09:16 | The circ bug reports I see are many times due to same root cause | |
| 09:18 | ashimema | Hmm, i had that issue with some of the accounts stuff.. in places I ended up fixing bugs I wasn't even aware of without specifically meaning to.. |
| 09:18 | I keep finding old reports where I suddenly realise I've already fixed it.. and I end up marking them as resolved fixed with a link.. but that of course never make it into a release notes set. | |
| 09:19 | not sure how another system would better that though.. think it's unfortunately just part of the game | |
| 09:20 | kohaputti | Another system I had in mind was to keep bug reports separate from reviewing and handling patches |
| 09:21 | It's what I'm used to elsewhere | |
| 09:21 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 09:21 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 09:21 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1565: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1565/ |
| 09:21 | kohaputti | that's why I probably feel it more intuitive |
| 09:21 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #510: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/510/ |
| 09:22 | magnuse | did we know the national libraries of greece and cyprus use koha? |
| 09:22 | ashimema | greece yes.. wasn't aware cyprus did |
| 09:22 | liliputech | nice |
| 09:23 | magnuse | coolio |
| 09:23 | ashimema | with these transfer limits liliputech |
| 09:23 | liliputech | indexing καλημέρα should be a challenge :) |
| 09:23 | Joubu | kohaputti: I am excited by the idea of 1 patch that fixes them all, submit! :D |
| 09:23 | (well, write it before) | |
| 09:24 | liliputech | ashimema: yes? o:) |
| 09:24 | kohaputti | Joubu, series of patches, coming right up :) |
| 09:24 | ashimema | should we not allow a patron to return their item to a library that restricts transfers to it so long as it doesn't restrict a transfer back from it.. |
| 09:24 | my brain hurts trying to describe that | |
| 09:25 | liliputech | hooo, i suddenly understand why the licencing is "GNU" (actually the sound i did produce while trying to understand your last one) |
| 09:26 | describe what "it" means in your sentence may make it easier to understand :) | |
| 09:27 | ashimema | Limit = A -> B not allowed |
| 09:27 | Should a Patron be allowed to return an item to B | |
| 09:27 | There is not limit from B -> A.. so the item can make it's way home OK | |
| 09:28 | or.. are you intentionally restricting checkin in both directions.. | |
| 09:28 | liliputech | hum. maybe. it should be allowed to return to B. |
| 09:28 | ashimema | :) |
| 09:28 | liliputech | I was strugling with same question yesterday :) |
| 09:28 | ashimema | I can fix it with a QA followup |
| 09:29 | haha.. yeah.. it's really not obvious is it. | |
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| 09:29 | liliputech | hehe, nup! |
| 09:36 | ashimema | I think we need to take account of the 'returnbranch' circulation rule |
| 09:37 | I don't think we shoulc block for an 'OR' case... | |
| 09:37 | or not block for the OR | |
| 09:38 | Let me add a followup and then the code will speak for itself | |
| 09:38 | liliputech | ashimema yes please :) |
| 09:39 | cant visio now but if needed can be planned | |
| 09:40 | keyboard is a slow interface to have a discussion ;) | |
| 09:41 | ashimema | :) |
| 09:41 | leave it with me :) | |
| 09:43 | liliputech | thanks, ping when followup is ready :) |
| 09:43 | (actually given there will be no hackfest we should have one on the internet sometime) | |
| 09:45 | i mean, i don't know if paul_p has decided something but i *guess* it won't physically happen this year. | |
| 09:57 | Joubu | really, why that??? |
| 09:57 | @karma covid | |
| 09:57 | huginn | Joubu: covid has neutral karma. |
| 09:57 | Joubu | really? |
| 09:57 | covid-- | |
| 09:57 | covid-- ^100 | |
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| 10:15 | nlegrand | Salut #koha! |
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| 10:34 | liliputech | Ohayo gozaimasu nlegrand, daijobu desu ka? :) |
| 10:38 | nlegrand | liliputech: 大丈夫ですよ！ |
| 10:41 | Maybe for the next hackfest in Marseille I'll bring some chess and shogi games if there are some players :). | |
| 10:42 | I'm longing so much for going to a hackfest in Marseille ^^ | |
| 10:42 | Or xiangqi or go also. | |
| 10:49 | liliputech | nlegrand: those are games to spend a night on :) I only know chess and go actually |
| 10:52 | nlegrand | great! |
| 10:55 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1566: UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1566/ |
| 11:00 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:00 | liliputech | nlegrand: those are game which can be played through internet :) but having stones in hands and clicking them on a board is nice! never tried online go (or chess) |
| 11:00 | nlegrand | o/ oleonard |
| 11:01 | liliputech | nlegrand: not sure there will be a hackfest in marseille this year... :( maybe hackfest online? |
| 11:01 | oleonard | liliputech: Those random quotes were really something! |
| 11:02 | nlegrand | liliputech: for chess lichess is opensource and excellent. For go I didn't try to play yet but I have an app to do some tsume from time to time. |
| 11:04 | liliputech: maybe in Automn? | |
| 11:04 | liliputech | :) |
| 11:05 | hi oleonard o/ | |
| 11:16 | * oleonard | finishes researching why he said those strange things and gets to work |
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| 12:11 | oleonard | It would be cool if you could run an SQL report without saving it. |
| 12:27 | magnuse | hiya nlegrand |
| 12:27 | covid-- | |
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| 12:30 | liliputech | oleonard: you mean, like in an sql client? o:) |
| 12:31 | oleonard | Why not? |
| 12:32 | liliputech | huuuum... yup that actualy make quite sense... like a "try report" button and result would open in another tab/window so you keep the editing context? |
| 12:33 | (without the hassle of configuring an sql client and network/permission overhead) | |
| 12:33 | the more i think about it, the more it sounds very nice. maybe a koha-plugin? | |
| 12:34 | (actually, very useful feature, deserves to get into master) | |
| 12:35 | only drawback i can think about is, you probably don't want to give anyone the possibility to create and run reports on your koha instance, performance and other things could break. i don't know the permissions in koha, are they different for editing and running a report? | |
| 12:36 | oleonard | I believe so |
| 12:36 | liliputech | then testing a report should only be accessible to people with editing capabilities |
| 12:36 | (I guess) | |
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| 13:07 | nlegrand | o/ magnuse |
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| 14:34 | Joubu | kohaputti: if you are working on bug 27718, maybe you should fix on top of bug 27131 |
| 14:34 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27718 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Holds to Pull list doesn't respect holdallowed circulation rule anymore |
| 14:34 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27131 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move code from circ/pendingreserves.pl to modules | |
| 14:35 | kohaputti | Joubu, thanks, if I start working on fix I will keep it in mind. |
| 14:36 | currently trying to finish up the circ / reserve refactoring and fix patch series | |
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| 14:45 | ashimema | sorry liliputech.. it's been a long day |
| 14:45 | Just pushed a couple of patches up to 7376 | |
| 14:45 | I reckon we should squash a bunch of those soon.. we've gone round the houses a bit.. but I think what I've done there now achieves what has actually been asked for. | |
| 14:45 | right.. | |
| 14:46 | onto my queue of mail.. I'm waaaaay behind today. | |
| 14:55 | Joubu | kohaputti: I thought you were saying you were working on it. I will have a look now then |
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| 15:00 | kohaputti | Joubu, I was working on it a bit, at least I found the root cause it was the holdallowed rule missing. I have still the the refactoring series work open and this bug report came to me from library so I paused it and send report in so we won't forget this issue. |
| 15:01 | Joubu, i saw you marked it as assigned now so thanks, I appreciate the help! :) | |
| 15:02 | Joubu, you are so fast there is a patch pending sometimes from you before I even have opened $EDITOR and marked bug as assigned. :P | |
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| 15:03 | Joubu | sometimes it's easy, so I prefer to fix ASAP :) |
| 15:14 | kohaputti: Here you go. Thanks for having forced me to move some code to a module. Now we have tests, and it's easy to add new ones :) | |
| 15:17 | kohaputti | thanks! |
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| 15:24 | Joubu | @later tell mtj Yesterday I pushed 27673, which introduces YAML::XS as a new deps. Look like Master_U16 is failing because of that. Do you think it's ok to drop U16 support for 21.05? |
| 15:24 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:31 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24108: DBRev 20.12.00.013 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]abcbdb17ae0f6e12a> |
| 15:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 26274: (QA follow-up) Fix the order of summary groups <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d1a473659830702d8> | |
| 15:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 24108: Remove extra spaces <https://git.koha-community.org[…]229a575113c3dfc96> | |
| 15:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 24108: (QA follow-up) Add staff detail page to syspref description <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d188d0171ae81efb0> | |
| 15:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 24108: (QA follow-up) Add missing comma in sysprefs.sql <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0249567a3c2048c9a> | |
| 15:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 24108: Make export file names consistent <https://git.koha-community.org[…]7f8c08e0b891d240c> | |
| 15:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 24108: (QA follow-up) Adjust wording and use perl for update file <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c0648dfa7f7792ca8> | |
| 15:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 24108: (follow-up) Fix typo with .xml extension <https://git.koha-community.org[…]02895d7dcdcafbf99> | |
| 15:31 | News from kohagit: Bug 24108: Advanced editor: configure if biblionumber or control number is used for... <https://git.koha-community.org[…]23f9a0d97d721f01e> | |
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| 16:19 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #511: FAILURE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/511/ |
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| 16:58 | kohaputti | decided to push the WIP patches for the refactoring of circ and hold stuff to bug 25690 |
| 16:58 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25690 normal, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, NEW , SIP should not allow to check out an item in transfer because of a hold to another patron |
| 17:23 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 17:23 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 17:23 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1567: FIXED in 1 hr 4 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1567/ |
| 17:28 | lilipute1h | dude, it's not even 7pm and already a second pastis... subconscious says i'm missing marseille's camps... covid-- |
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| 17:35 | cait1 | lilipute1h: not only you... just without pastis here |
| 17:38 | bye all | |
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| 17:38 | lilipute1h | @later tell cait1 well, in your place, there is Ströh (not sure i spell it right) |
| 17:38 | huginn | lilipute1h: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:34 | reiveune | bye |
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| 19:11 | cait | Joubu: still around? |
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| 19:53 | ashimema | @later tell kohaputti looks like we might be working in similar areas again.. I will definitely check out bug 25690 tomorrow. I spotted some fun around reserves and transfers while doing some further review of transfers given Joubu's feedback |
| 19:53 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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| 20:34 | * thd | returned from post office but the scheduled IRC meeting had not started. |
| 20:36 | oleonard | In my experience no one really wants meetings at this time :( |
| 20:36 | cait | oh |
| 20:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #95: SUCCESS in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_U18/95/ |
| 20:38 | thd | In New York City, with a totally broken economy, even the post office has no consistent open hours. |
| 20:39 | If there is no meeting now I should go to the bank with ever shrinking hours. | |
| 20:39 | * oleonard | just got a letter mailed almost exactly one month ago from two states over. |
| 20:41 | thd | The US Postal Service near New York is so short of staff that mail processing overflow has gone to Texas for spare processing capacity even if it is sent back to New York for local delivery. |
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| 21:12 | joubu: Bug 27154: Fix test if the cache is populated already | |
| 21:12 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27154 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to oldstable , Koha/Util/SystemPreferences.pm must be removed |
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