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| 07:08 | fridolin | hi tehre |
| 07:08 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:08 | wahanui | que tal, reiveune |
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| 07:35 | ashimema | Morning |
| 07:37 | liliputech_asu | morning ashimema |
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| 07:47 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 07:47 | wahanui | bidet, alex_a |
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| 07:51 | Joubu | postponing yesterday's dev meeting |
| 07:51 | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 27 January 2021 | |
| 07:51 | huginn | Meeting started Thu Jan 28 07:51:52 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 07:51 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 07:51 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 27 January 2021) | |
| 07:51 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_27_january_2021' |
| 07:52 | Joubu | #info meeting postponed |
| 07:52 | #action amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc. | |
| 07:53 | #info Next meeting: 10 February 2021, 15 UTC | |
| 07:53 | #endmeeting | |
| 07:53 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 07:53 | huginn | Meeting ended Thu Jan 28 07:53:09 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 07:53 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-01-28-07.51.html | |
| 07:53 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]1-01-28-07.51.txt | |
| 07:53 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]28-07.51.log.html | |
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| 08:06 | hagud | morning, I have added a new facet at elasticsearch, but I am not able to add the labet at facets, anybody has an idea how to do it? |
| 08:17 | cait1 | you can't do it with configuration I think, you'll have to change the templates |
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| 08:19 | hagud | I guess I should edit opac-facets.inc |
| 08:26 | threre is huge differences between indexes in zebra and elasticsearch, should I open a bug explaining didferences? for example topic facets at zebra is just 650$a but ES are 6xx... what do you advice? | |
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| 08:38 | cait1 | i think opening a bug for improvements on elasticsearch would be good |
| 08:38 | 6xx does not actually make sense | |
| 08:38 | as a default as we have some other facets for other 6xx? (places?) | |
| 08:51 | hagud | yes su-geo is places,... subject should be 6xx, I will do all 'required changes' I have found that authority indexes are not defined (some of them) |
| 08:52 | mistake subject should not be 6xx | |
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| 08:56 | cait1 | i think ther eis a bug already for improving the elasticsearch defaults |
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| 09:06 | magnuse | bug 15522 |
| 09:06 | wahanui | hmmm... bug 15522 is the right place |
| 09:06 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Patch doesn't apply , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
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| 09:10 | Joubu | cait, hagud: bug 27314 |
| 09:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27314 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, NEW , Update default Elastic mapping |
| 09:10 | Joubu | not much on it however |
| 09:21 | cait | but a good idea in general :) |
| 09:21 | Joubu++ btw | |
| 09:21 | thx for looking after translate in the mornings for me | |
| 09:26 | Joubu | Williamson, Catherine 12/18/1930 (90 years) Kid (C) |
| 09:26 | lol | |
| 09:31 | hagud | have you realize the select css is not working for firefox at koha 20.11 |
| 09:31 | font-family rules are not applied the select dropdown options at any dropdown with firefox | |
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| 09:32 | Joubu | @later tell oleonard Hi Owen, waiting for your feedback on bug 27440 comment 7 and bug 27493 comment 10 :) |
| 09:32 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:33 | Joubu | hagud: no, haven't realised that. Which rule isn't applied correctly? |
| 09:33 | do you have the line and path of the .scss file? | |
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| 09:59 | hagud | In firefox select and option css rules are being not processing css rules from external fonts... I am going to open a bug at bugzilla... |
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| 10:34 | tcohen | buen día |
| 10:34 | bon dia | |
| 10:41 | liliputech_asu | dobre bzien tcohen |
| 10:42 | bz 17314 | |
| 10:42 | bug 17314 | |
| 10:42 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17314 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Routes to create, list and delete a purchase suggestion |
| 10:42 | liliputech_asu | dobre dzien |
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| 11:00 | tcohen | liliputech_asu: I'll take on it today |
| 11:00 | thanks for the reminder! | |
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| 11:28 | oleonard | Joubu I'll take a look |
| 11:30 | Joubu in return can I ask you a question about Hea installation? It's telling me it can't get a database connection but I've verified the db credentials | |
| 11:54 | liliputech_asu | tcohen: i've did a bit of rebase :) |
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| 13:00 | oleonard | Joubu: I agree on Bug 27493, have attached a followup |
| 13:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27493 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , Improve structure and style of checkbox columns in tables |
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| 13:21 | Joubu | thx oleonard! |
| 13:34 | ashimema | thanks oleonard |
| 13:34 | :) | |
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| 14:55 | ashimema | oleonard around? |
| 14:55 | or cait | |
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| 15:13 | oleonard | I'm here now ashimema |
| 15:14 | ashimema | Search filters on a datatable.. i.e the ones in a column header |
| 15:14 | with 20212 it appears they get reversed | |
| 15:15 | i.e 'Search blah blah' | |
| 15:15 | as apposed to 'Blah blah search' | |
| 15:15 | do you think that's a negative change? | |
| 15:16 | also.. any idea's why column widths might differ between an ajax datatable and a non-ajax one? | |
| 15:16 | oleonard | Can you give me an example of the search filter issue? |
| 15:17 | * ashimema | sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]shzQM/message.txt > |
| 15:17 | oleonard | Hm... Not like what I see on the item search table |
| 15:18 | ashimema | item search table? |
| 15:19 | oleonard | I just thought it was odd that neither of your screenshots resembled how it looks on the item search results view |
| 15:20 | * ashimema | also isn't sure why 'Order cost' wraps on the updated version of the table |
| 15:20 | ashimema | silly question.. how do I get to item search to see what you're talking about :PS |
| 15:21 | oleonard | The catalog item search, either from the header menu or the advanced search page. |
| 15:22 | ashimema | aha.. |
| 15:22 | I would say my 'before' shot looks pretty similar? | |
| 15:23 | except you have some that are dropdowns rather than pure string searches | |
| 15:24 | oleonard | I don't know what to tell you ashimema, 20212 doesn't apply for me. |
| 15:24 | https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15409892513019 | |
| 15:24 | ashimema | oh really |
| 15:24 | it applied for me only minutes ago | |
| 15:24 | it has a tonne of dependencies though | |
| 15:26 | second question.. in your knowledge to librarians use the form type filter options at the top left on the acquisitions screen.. this patchset removes them | |
| 15:28 | oleonard | Don't know about that, but I'm assuming there is a way to make that form act as a DataTables filter. We did that on the news page. |
| 15:28 | ashimema | as new bug perhaps.. if anyone misses them |
| 15:34 | oleonard | (IMO we should offer a full-featured sidebar filter rather than table header filters... I don't like them) |
| 15:35 | Joubu | we implemented the ajax based DTs to have column filters |
| 15:35 | It's complicated to have 2 group of filters to filter the same table | |
| 15:35 | why don't you like them? | |
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| 15:36 | oleonard | I think they're awkward, and they make my job harder :) |
| 15:37 | Joubu | on 20212 for instance we are adding filters on almost all the columns |
| 15:37 | when before we add only a few on the left | |
| 15:37 | how do they make your job harder? | |
| 15:38 | oleonard | I don't have direct experience with how librarians use it, but I suspect that a keyword filter would be sufficient for most searches |
| 15:39 | Why they make my job harder: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=23565#c2 | |
| 15:39 | huginn | Bug 23565: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add columns configuration and export options to item search results |
| 15:39 | cait1 | i don't like the search filters muche either .) |
| 15:39 | on the columns | |
| 15:39 | and i'd really leave off the "search" word | |
| 15:39 | altogether | |
| 15:39 | the translations never fit in there and you can't read the last bit anyway *shrugs* | |
| 15:40 | I thin librarians tend to miss them | |
| 15:40 | and we can't offer hints as easily as in a sidebar | |
| 15:40 | or a clear link | |
| 15:40 | it's all a bit more narrow | |
| 15:42 | ashimema | funny you should say 'leave the search off entirely' I was thinking the opposite approach.. and only putting 'search' or 'filter' in there.. as you have the column context directly above anyway. |
| 15:44 | tcohen | I attempted to leave it clear, and add an icon |
| 15:44 | but embarrasingly failed to align it properly | |
| 15:44 | fa-search | |
| 15:45 | ashimema | lol |
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| 15:47 | Joubu | oleonard: we are no longer using jquery.dataTables.columnFilter.js, it's obsolete. So maybe things have changed now |
| 15:47 | oleonard | Since Bug 20212? |
| 15:47 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Passed QA , Slowness in receiving in acquisitions |
| 15:47 | tcohen | on that specific table |
| 15:47 | Joubu | bug 27402 |
| 15:47 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Add column filtering to the Datatables REST API wrapper |
| 15:48 | Joubu | yes, where the REST API wrapper is used |
| 15:48 | so not impacting the existing tables | |
| 15:49 | to be clear, I removed the filters in the sidebar because the code was not trivial (and ugly) | |
| 15:49 | If there is an open question about it I prefer to not push it | |
| 15:49 | because once pushed, nobody will re-add them for sure | |
| 15:50 | oleonard | I don't know why we need both, I think removing it is fine if the table header searches are there. |
| 15:50 | Joubu | that's why I removed them |
| 15:51 | and keeping both in sync was a mess | |
| 15:51 | tcohen | I think we could re-add them if required, but let's give this a few weeks for people to get used to it |
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| 16:29 | cait1 | ashimema: leaving it empty would also work for me :) (teh column search header field thignies) |
| 16:29 | ashimema | :) |
| 16:30 | accessability wise I think we'd need decent aria descriptions | |
| 16:30 | cait1 | i think the text doesn't look so nice there really doubled up, like you sid |
| 16:30 | ashimema | but toherwise I'm good with that |
| 16:30 | cait1 | agreed |
| 16:30 | ashimema | 'Search' or 'Filter' would be my preference.. just to give the extra little hint at what the input does |
| 16:30 | cait1 | this feeling of being happy that it#s friday tomorrow and slight panic when looking at your todo list that the week is almost over... |
| 16:31 | is it just me? | |
| 16:32 | ashimema | I have an all day training tomorrow so I'm not hugely looking forward to it. |
| 16:32 | but am looking forward to the weekend | |
| 16:32 | cait1 | can you share the topic? :) |
| 16:32 | caroline | I just want the week to be over tbh... todo list is like the universe, always in expansion |
| 16:32 | cait1 | lol |
| 16:32 | that's actually too true to be funny... | |
| 16:33 | caroline | lol! like I sometimes say, it's sad and funny at the same time |
| 16:35 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Restore price formatting for ecost and replacement_price <https://git.koha-community.org[…]3a1107fdbb618b996> |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 27493: (follow-up) Remove redundant class <https://git.koha-community.org[…]1b04d4b95c9deac57> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21851: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b3821f7760e1a57a1> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 27440: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c058be3355ee8407d> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 27493: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org[…]bae244d051f1291f3> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Filter on publisher and notes <https://git.koha-community.org[…]14ddafaf81fd7b52a> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 26755: Make the guarantor search popup taller <https://git.koha-community.org[…]569edef624fd6f452> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20238: Display description of ITEMTYPECAT in search category <https://git.koha-community.org[…]65270569aa6c5a40d> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 27493: Add styling for hidden columns <https://git.koha-community.org[…]65c8ac0ce07b48526> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 27493: Set column width for checkbox only columns <https://git.koha-community.org[…]8f41a403bf2a6053c> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 27395: Add a warning to PatronSelfRegistrationDefaultCategory <https://git.koha-community.org[…]5ed918ba1400b5af9> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 27440: Improve structure and style of result toolbars in the OPAC <https://git.koha-community.org[…]a89c16939c4d6c490> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Remove fix_query and assume ugliness <https://git.koha-community.org[…]da22dbb4dc2ed8f18> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Fix query for the global filter <https://git.koha-community.org[…]bd42cddb04c505264> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Re-add EAN for UNIMARC <https://git.koha-community.org[…]74289b51c3cee531c> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Remove fixedHeader <https://git.koha-community.org[…]cf02ea4d98e639a0a> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Use the DT column filtering provided by the wrapper <https://git.koha-community.org[…]5b0af2e91876acf86> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20212: Search on fund's name instead of id <https://git.koha-community.org[…]48de86cf4f59e0158> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 20212: (follow-up) Avoid pagination on full resultset test <https://git.koha-community.org[…]1b414451e7cb1f1ca> | |
| 16:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21851: Improve style of sidebar forms <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b496640d3d552e960> | |
| 16:39 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:40 | cait1 | caroline: is there a date yet on branching 20.11? I wonder because of the link in koha |
| 16:41 | caroline | I do it when I start to receive merge requests for 21.05... I guess we could do it now |
| 16:41 | cait1 | especially the translation https://koha-community.org/man[…]e/html/index.html can't really be updated, because there is no 20.11 translation project yet |
| 16:42 | hm maybe to it next week? | |
| 16:42 | caroline | Hum, right |
| 16:42 | cait1 | i might send in some more patches :) |
| 16:42 | do it... gr. | |
| 16:42 | translating has side effects of seeing things | |
| 16:42 | caroline | lol! |
| 16:43 | oleonard | Kind of like how writing test plans often shows you how your patch is lacking |
| 16:43 | cait1 | but we are amost done with 20.05...but i worry that there will be lots of changes so would rather start on translating 20.11 now |
| 16:43 | true | |
| 16:44 | a lot of the takss i had for the students came from notes i took while translating the manual, acually all of them | |
| 16:44 | the only bad thing is now that they fixed those i will have to translte the parts again :) | |
| 16:44 | caroline: no rush, but maybe think about a good time? I can try and work thorugh some more of my notes first maybe | |
| 16:44 | caroline | that's always what I think about when updating the manual... it's like double the work |
| 16:44 | cait1 | or triple... translate,... fix ... translate |
| 16:45 | but i believe it's getting better overall | |
| 16:45 | our manual | |
| 16:45 | caroline | I think so too... bit by bit |
| 16:48 | cait1 | ok, time to go :) bye! |
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| 17:21 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #194: UNSTABLE in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/194/ |
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| 18:10 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1547: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1547/ |
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