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| 06:53 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:08 | fridolin | hi |
| 07:08 | wahanui | que tal, fridolin |
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| 07:29 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 08:15 | cait1 | snow snow snow.... |
| 08:54 | magnuse | snow here too, first time this year we had a "proper" snowfall |
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| 09:27 | cait1 | we never got that much as long as I can think of |
| 09:27 | not in Kontanz to be more specific | |
| 09:30 | ashimema | morning |
| 09:31 | fridolin.. have you tested bug 27299 ? | |
| 09:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27299 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Zebra phrase register is incorrectly tokenized when using ICU |
| 09:31 | ashimema | it works really well for us in testing.. I'm hoping to get it through QA |
| 09:38 | fridolin | ashimema: oh yep its perfect |
| 09:38 | ashimema | fancy giving it your magic stamp as I SO'd it ;) |
| 09:38 | I'm also looking at bug 11158.. which we've retested on top of the above.. and it works great too! | |
| 09:38 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11158 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Authorities 'starts with' search returns the same as 'contains' when using ICU |
| 09:39 | fridolin | ashimema: do you whant me to sign also ? |
| 09:39 | ashimema | but as Colin wrote it.. many moons ago.. I'm unable to SO or QA that one |
| 09:39 | if you fancied it :) | |
| 09:40 | ooh.. David re-wrote it.. so I can SO or QA :) | |
| 09:41 | so yeah.. if you can varify it works too that would be awesome.. then we can get both in. | |
| 09:41 | should mean Zebra and linking work much better :) | |
| 09:43 | fridolin | indeed, we are on this subject actually |
| 09:44 | ashimema | excellent |
| 09:44 | wahanui | darn tootin' it is. |
| 09:44 | * ashimema | is really happy to see a bit more love going into Zebra again at the moment.. |
| 09:45 | ashimema | ES is cool.. but I personally still think there's a fair bit of life left in Zebra |
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| 09:45 | der_smon | hey! |
| 09:47 | got pulled away from my keyboard yesterday and was not able to react: on 19.05 with elastic search, i get duplicates when batch modifying records in the search index | |
| 09:47 | meaning i have to reindex to get rid of the duplicate search results | |
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| 09:59 | ashimema | kidclamp is probably best to talk to about that.. but he won't be up for a few more hours I'm afraid der_smon |
| 10:10 | der_smon | ok |
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| 10:10 | der_smon | seems i am somewhat out of sync with kidclamp |
| 10:11 | ashimema | where are you based der_smon |
| 10:11 | kidclamp is USA | |
| 10:11 | der_smon | germany, and i start working quite early ;) |
| 10:11 | ashimema | the other one who knows elastic well is ere.. but I haven't seen him around much recently |
| 10:12 | generally, european afternoons are a good time to say hello.. at the point we should have a fair few europeans around as well as a few americans | |
| 10:12 | catches the widest group :) | |
| 10:13 | der_smon | thx ;) |
| 10:15 | ashimema | also.. my brain tends to wake up after a few cups of tea and I become more helpful in the afternoons too ;P |
| 10:20 | Joubu | der_smon: I am going to ask you the same question as yesterday: in elastic index or in the Koha search result view? |
| 10:21 | der_smon | in the result view |
| 10:21 | i am currently checking the index itself | |
| 10:21 | Joubu | Are they pointing to the same record (same biblionumber)? |
| 10:22 | (I don't think that's possible...) | |
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| 10:23 | ashimema | lol.. you beat me to it on bug 27047.. tnaks Joubu :) |
| 10:23 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27047 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Purchase suggestions can not search |
| 10:23 | Joubu | It was on my list for 2 months... |
| 10:23 | ashimema | haha.. |
| 10:24 | it had only just gone on mine.. but was on the 'when i get a five minute break' list.. which isn't often these days | |
| 10:24 | I'll test it though :) | |
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| 10:29 | jsicot | Hi #koha folks |
| 10:31 | I'm a koha enthusiast, I join this channel to find or share some information about my favorite ils ^^ | |
| 10:33 | Joubu | Welcome jsicot, that's the perfect place for that :) |
| 10:33 | der_smon | yes, same biblionumber |
| 10:33 | Joubu | der_smon: which exact version of Koha are you using? |
| 10:34 | der_smon | 19.05.05.000 |
| 10:34 | Joubu | then detail what you are doing exactly in the batch tool, I will try |
| 10:35 | der_smon: can you try with the latest 19.05.x? | |
| 10:35 | jsicot | Joubu Great :-) |
| 10:35 | Joubu | v19.05.17 |
| 10:35 | you are missing 12 minor versions | |
| 10:35 | der_smon | i will try |
| 10:36 | Joubu | there are 700 commits, maybe one is fixing it |
| 10:37 | der_smon | so my modification rule is "update existing or add new" and basically i check for specific values of 856 z and want to replace them with a different value |
| 10:37 | the duplicate shows up even if the record is not changed | |
| 10:37 | (meaning 856 z is no-matching) | |
| 10:41 | kidclamp | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25342 |
| 10:41 | huginn | Bug 25342: major, P5 - low, ---, nick, CLOSED FIXED, Scripts not running under plack can cause duplication of ES records |
| 10:41 | kidclamp | der_smon: ^^ |
| 10:43 | der_smon | ah nice |
| 10:44 | Joubu | Always consider the bug is fixed already, and update :) |
| 10:55 | cait1 | oh so much talking here to read back |
| 10:58 | * cait1 | waves at der_smon |
| 10:59 | cait1 | which library? |
| 11:02 | jsicot | Hi @cait1, Sorry, the question was for me? I'm a systems librarian at Rennes 2 university Library (in France) |
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| 11:06 | Joubu | jsicot, cait, I am pretty sure you met already :) |
| 11:07 | ashimema | I think cait1 was asking where dr_smon comes from.. as they said they're german earlier in chat :) |
| 11:08 | jsicot | ah sorry |
| 11:08 | ashimema | no worries.. |
| 11:08 | always nice to know where people are from.. | |
| 11:08 | we've probably met too.. if you've been to marseille hackfest in recent years :) | |
| 11:08 | * ashimema | is Martin from PTFS Europe |
| 11:09 | wonders if we should have some guidelines of form validation... bug 27427 has opened a small can of worms for me. | |
| 11:09 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update the way form validation errors are displayed |
| 11:09 | jsicot | yes, I was present at Hackfest perhaps in 2012 or 2013 ? |
| 11:10 | ashimema | aha.. I may or may not have been at one of those.. haha.. it's long enough ago my brain has faded |
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| 11:10 | jsicot | ^^ |
| 11:12 | cait | oh i meant der_smon - i know i have met jsicot :) |
| 11:12 | jsicot | :-) |
| 11:13 | cait | German users here always have me curious :) |
| 11:13 | ashimema | hehe |
| 11:13 | your not german are you cait? :P | |
| 11:16 | der_smon | huhu cait |
| 11:16 | dainst ;) | |
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| 11:53 | ashimema | I've updated bug 18017 to add bug 27299 as a dependancy fridolin |
| 11:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18017 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Use index_heading and index_match_heading in UNIMARC authorities zebra configuration |
| 11:53 | ashimema | I think it makes sense |
| 11:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27299 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Zebra phrase register is incorrectly tokenized when using ICU |
| 11:53 | oleonard-away | Hi all |
| 11:53 | ashimema | afraid I can't really test it.. don't know enough about UNIMARC.. but it 'looks right' to me. |
| 11:56 | hi oleonard | |
| 11:56 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
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| 12:44 | * oleonard | sees the ElasticSearch license news... :( |
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| 13:19 | cait | der_smon: I had a hunch :) |
| 13:38 | oleonard | It would be cool if you could click a statistic in Hea and see a breakdown of Koha version numbers. I'm curious, for instance, what version the 103 libraries using LibraryThingForLibraries are on |
| 13:39 | ...with the ulterior motive that I want to be able to jettison LTFL support ;) | |
| 13:44 | ashimema | that would indeed be cool |
| 13:47 | that looks like it could be doable actually | |
| 13:56 | magnuse | cookbook-meeting in about 1 hour? |
| 13:57 | * oleonard | has his apron ready |
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| 14:02 | cait | is it an hour or half an hour? |
| 14:02 | also with apron ready here :) | |
| 14:02 | ashimema | mmm, foood |
| 14:07 | magnuse | oh yes, maybe half past? |
| 14:08 | ah, yes, i am mistaken | |
| 14:09 | cookbook-meeting in about 21 minutes? | |
| 14:09 | cait | should we change the links on the website? Github Koha Gitweb |
| 14:10 | I'd like to change the first to: Github (mirror) and we are no longer using gitweb... so maybe Koha Git Repository? | |
| 14:10 | https://koha-community.org/ | |
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| 14:12 | oleonard | I agree cait. I would put "Koha Git Repository" above Github too |
| 14:12 | Joubu | cait: yes, could be "Koha Git Repository" and a link to the "Gitlab mirror" |
| 14:13 | cait | i think they are alphabetic |
| 14:13 | but it always bugged e too | |
| 14:13 | it# actually the github mirror | |
| 14:13 | but we could add the one on gitlab too? | |
| 14:13 | i will see how tog et there | |
| 14:14 | Joubu | I was suggesting to replace github with gitlab |
| 14:14 | cait | do you have th elink on hand maybe? i can do that |
| 14:15 | Joubu | https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha |
| 14:15 | cait | https://gitlab.com/koha-community |
| 14:15 | ah ok | |
| 14:16 | should we point to the koha repo or to the level above? | |
| 14:16 | Joubu | for the other one you can directly link to https://git.koha-community.org[…]ha-community/Koha |
| 14:16 | I'd point to the Koha repo dorectly | |
| 14:16 | directly | |
| 14:16 | cait | ok |
| 14:16 | on it | |
| 14:16 | please test | |
| 14:18 | Joubu | no changes |
| 14:18 | cait | hm |
| 14:18 | it shows for me | |
| 14:19 | Joubu | "Community Resources |
| 14:19 | " | |
| 14:19 | cait | deleting cache |
| 14:19 | Joubu | those link? |
| 14:19 | cait | try again please |
| 14:19 | Joubu | https://git.koha-community.org/Koha is wrong |
| 14:19 | it's https://git.koha-community.org[…]ha-community/Koha | |
| 14:19 | cait | hm not very handy that one :) |
| 14:19 | changing | |
| 14:20 | Joubu | it's following the same pattern "koha-community" is the group/namespace |
| 14:20 | and Koha is the project | |
| 14:20 | like gitlab | |
| 14:20 | cait | fixed |
| 14:20 | yeah i can see that, sorry | |
| 14:20 | Joubu | yup! |
| 14:21 | cait | is vimeo still being used? |
| 14:21 | kidclamp: do youknow maybe? | |
| 14:21 | https://vimeo.com/channels/kohails | |
| 14:21 | it lists only 5 videos | |
| 14:21 | i am tempted to remove it? | |
| 14:21 | koha 3.2 videos too | |
| 14:22 | last link in the list (in case you wondered what i am talking about) | |
| 14:22 | oleonard: the sequence is alphabetic, i see no option to change it :( | |
| 14:22 | oleonard | At least it's logical in some way |
| 14:23 | cait | any votes on killing the vimeo oneß |
| 14:23 | ? | |
| 14:23 | oleonard | I would remove it |
| 14:23 | cait | thx :) |
| 14:23 | i've set it to private | |
| 14:23 | so if someone wants we could bring it back | |
| 14:24 | Joubu | maybe add the youtube channel? |
| 14:24 | https://www.youtube.com/c/KohaILS | |
| 14:24 | cait | label? |
| 14:24 | wahanui | label is "Additional attributes and identifiers" |
| 14:25 | cait | heh wahanui, not in that case |
| 14:25 | Videos on Youtube ? | |
| 14:25 | Joubu | Youtube channel? |
| 14:26 | cait | done |
| 14:28 | jsicot | Twitter account https://twitter.com/kohails maybe ? |
| 14:29 | oleonard | A link to my SoundCloud? |
| 14:29 | cait | heh |
| 14:29 | i will do that | |
| 14:30 | twitter is a good idea, i have added it | |
| 14:30 | just labelled "Twitter" | |
| 14:31 | jsicot | thx |
| 14:31 | cait | thx for the suggestion ) |
| 14:31 | Joubu | (best meeting ever is coming, be ready) |
| 14:31 | cait | are we meeting here? |
| 14:31 | ok *jitters* | |
| 14:31 | caroline_crazycatlady | yes |
| 14:31 | i'm getting ready | |
| 14:31 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 14:31 | caroline_crazycatlady | should I create a wiki page to get the minutes and everything? |
| 14:32 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:32 | cait | just realized i forgot to check out the wiki page :( |
| 14:33 | Joubu | caroline_crazycatlady: nope, just the usual # |
| 14:33 | caroline_crazycatlady | ah ok good |
| 14:33 | #startmeeting Cookbook Working Group | |
| 14:33 | huginn | Meeting started Fri Jan 15 14:33:55 2021 UTC. The chair is caroline_crazycatlady. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:33 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:33 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Cookbook Working Group) | |
| 14:33 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'cookbook_working_group' |
| 14:34 | caroline_crazycatlady | #topic Introductions |
| 14:34 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Cookbook Working Group) | |
| 14:34 | caroline_crazycatlady | use #info for intorductions |
| 14:34 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 14:34 | caroline_crazycatlady | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Quebec, Canada |
| 14:34 | magnuse | #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
| 14:34 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, Germany |
| 14:35 | magnuse | (probably doing this on my own time, though) |
| 14:35 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, UK |
| 14:35 | me too.. | |
| 14:35 | cait | same |
| 14:35 | oleonard | Yes, won't someone please think of the shareholders! |
| 14:36 | caroline_crazycatlady | lol! |
| 14:36 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 14:37 | caroline_crazycatlady | Ok, I didn't really prepare an agenda, but I thought of some things -- format, asking for contributions, measurements (:P) |
| 14:37 | magnuse | international globetrotter ;-) |
| 14:37 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Koha_cookbook_RFC | |
| 14:38 | format can be both input and output, i guess | |
| 14:38 | caroline_crazycatlady | We can start with the format |
| 14:38 | on the RFC, it says PDF and or epub | |
| 14:38 | cait | i think an html version could be nice too |
| 14:38 | caroline_crazycatlady | how do we add contributions? |
| 14:39 | I'll edit the wiki page as we discuss | |
| 14:39 | magnuse | i am thinkgin a git repo that can maybe accept pull requests, but at least the working group members should be able to add commits |
| 14:39 | caroline_crazycatlady | epub might be a bit big |
| 14:40 | magnuse | big? |
| 14:40 | caroline_crazycatlady | to host |
| 14:40 | cait | caroline_crazycatlady: it#s easy if we use the same tools we have for the manual |
| 14:40 | magnuse | i had not thought of the tools for the manual, but that does sound like a good idea |
| 14:41 | ashimema | epub is not bad.. it was the translations that made things big in the manual |
| 14:41 | * ashimema | was wrong to blame epub |
| 14:41 | caroline_crazycatlady | so we want to use Restructured text for formatting and sphinx for output? |
| 14:41 | cait | it's an option that would make it quite easy to generate theother things... |
| 14:41 | caroline_crazycatlady | ok, good to know |
| 14:41 | cait | but there might be other options too |
| 14:41 | caroline_crazycatlady | but we still have to find somewhere to host it |
| 14:42 | Joubu | what do you need to host? |
| 14:42 | cait | we could put it on gitlab maybe? or the gitea |
| 14:42 | Joubu | only the output? |
| 14:42 | magnuse | gitea = https://git.koha-community.org/ ? |
| 14:42 | cait | yes |
| 14:42 | caroline_crazycatlady | I think so, since the input will be on gitlab |
| 14:42 | magnuse | don't we need to host the source too? |
| 14:42 | caroline_crazycatlady | or gitea |
| 14:42 | magnuse | ah |
| 14:43 | Joubu | I'd consider it the same as other side-projects, use gitlab and its workflow |
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| 14:43 | magnuse | sounds good to me |
| 14:43 | Joubu | I think we can rely on gitlab to host the output as well. If too big I can host the pdf/epub |
| 14:43 | caroline_crazycatlady | ok |
| 14:43 | * oleonard | wonders if we need a recipe copyright expert's advice |
| 14:43 | cait | +1 |
| 14:44 | magnuse | yeah, we have plenty of space/bandwith too |
| 14:44 | caroline_crazycatlady | #agreed use gitlab and its workflow |
| 14:44 | #agreed host the output on gitlab as well | |
| 14:45 | there was also a print-on-demand option | |
| 14:45 | in the wiki | |
| 14:45 | cait | i like the information/layout the wiki suggests, can we make this work with docbook in a structured way? |
| 14:45 | caroline_crazycatlady | https://www.blurb.com/bookstore |
| 14:45 | magnuse | yeah, i want a physical book :-) |
| 14:45 | caroline_crazycatlady | same! |
| 14:45 | cait | :) |
| 14:45 | sorry, we ar not using docbook... sphinx... thing | |
| 14:46 | might be good to create a template one can follow | |
| 14:46 | magnuse | i yup |
| 14:46 | awesome if people familiar with the manual could suggest a temaplte | |
| 14:47 | but should we say all submissions must use the template? or accept anything and convert to the template ourselves? | |
| 14:47 | cait | i am not sure we have many super familiar with the technical bits and ther might be things we don't really use yet? |
| 14:47 | i think we shoudl accept submissions outside of gitlab too | |
| 14:47 | oleonard | Agreed |
| 14:47 | cait | i'd be willing to help reformat, once we know how we do it |
| 14:47 | caroline_crazycatlady | yes bc not everyone is confortable with git |
| 14:48 | cait | can you make that an agreed plz? |
| 14:48 | Joubu | we could have a template wiki page |
| 14:48 | magnuse | keep it simple s**** ;-) |
| 14:48 | cait | even the wiki is a bit of a hurdle |
| 14:48 | caroline_crazycatlady | #agreed we accept contributions outside of gitlab |
| 14:48 | cait | maybe also have an email acceptance? |
| 14:48 | magnuse | but how? set up an email somewhere? |
| 14:49 | cait | hm list is bad because it eats the attachements |
| 14:49 | caroline_crazycatlady | kohacookbookgmail? |
| 14:49 | cait | gmail??? |
| 14:49 | sorry :) | |
| 14:49 | magnuse | i think gmail or similar makes sense |
| 14:49 | cait | paranoid German |
| 14:49 | caroline_crazycatlady | I don't really know other ones, sorry! |
| 14:49 | magnuse | hehe |
| 14:50 | cait | Joubu: you have a kc address... is that an option in general? |
| 14:50 | Joubu | we can use it, yes |
| 14:50 | ha | |
| 14:51 | sorry, you mean the bugs.k-c.org address? | |
| 14:51 | it's not k-c.org | |
| 14:51 | not sure it makes sense to have bugs.k-c.org | |
| 14:51 | cait | ah ok, yep no then |
| 14:51 | caroline_crazycatlady | cookbookk-c.org? |
| 14:51 | Joubu | no |
| 14:51 | caroline_crazycatlady | ok |
| 14:51 | Joubu | not possible |
| 14:51 | (there is no mail server) | |
| 14:51 | magnuse | cait: what are you actually paranoid about? it's not for sensitive info? :-) |
| 14:52 | Joubu | use koha_cookbookprotonmail.com |
| 14:52 | and we will create it | |
| 14:52 | cait | magnuse: it reads emails for advertising... i think that's creepy? |
| 14:52 | but offtopic here :) | |
| 14:53 | no idea waht protonmail is, but Joubu is usually right | |
| 14:53 | caroline_crazycatlady | so cookbookprotonmail.com is good? |
| 14:53 | Joubu | koha is missing :) |
| 14:53 | caroline_crazycatlady | #agreed use kohacookbookprotonmail.com to send recipes to the editors |
| 14:54 | cait | i like it all in one word |
| 14:54 | magnuse | is that webmail where we can log in and work in the queue? or would it just pass email along to everyone in the committe? |
| 14:56 | caroline_crazycatlady | #action caroline will create a template using restructuredtext for the contributions |
| 14:56 | magnuse | it would be practical if we had one webmail to log into where we could see which submissions had already been handled |
| 14:57 | caroline_crazycatlady | Joubu or ashimema : can you set up the git repository and the sphinx part? |
| 14:57 | Joubu | yes, action us |
| 14:57 | caroline_crazycatlady | #Joubu or ashimema will set up the git repository and the sphinx part |
| 14:58 | #Joubu will create the email address kohacookbookprotonmail.com |
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| 14:58 | #action Joubu will create the email address kohacookbookprotonmail.com |
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| 14:59 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:59 | Joubu | (I've create koha_cookbook already and sent you the credentials) |
| 14:59 | can recreate without _ if needed | |
| 14:59 | create*d* | |
| 14:59 | caroline_crazycatlady | can you set it up so that we can access it via web and/or set it up so that it sends us all emails? |
| 14:59 | oops, sorry, I didn't see! | |
| 15:00 | do we prefer koha_cookbook or kohacookbook? | |
| 15:00 | I don't have a preference | |
| 15:00 | magnuse | me neither |
| 15:00 | Joubu | I prefer with _ |
| 15:00 | :D | |
| 15:00 | cait | not a strong one |
| 15:00 | caroline_crazycatlady | ok so lets keep it that way |
| 15:01 | #info email is koha_cookbookprotonmail.com |
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| 15:01 | magnuse | (off topic: who can add 2021 on https://meetings.koha-community.org/ ?) |
| 15:01 | caroline_crazycatlady | I'll do it |
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| 15:01 | caroline_crazycatlady | I was already in there |
| 15:01 | Joubu | (magnuse: I've asked gmcharlt already) |
| 15:01 | cait | gmcharlt |
| 15:01 | wahanui | i think gmcharlt is usually lurking much earlier.. hense ashimema's pointing him out |
| 15:01 | magnuse | (cool!) |
| 15:02 | caroline_crazycatlady | ok if it's something complicated i'll l et them deal with it lol! |
| 15:02 | cait | i think you probably need to change the html template, not complicated but requires access |
| 15:02 | caroline_crazycatlady | 2020 stopped in June so I though it was a manual thing |
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| 15:03 | caroline_crazycatlady | ok back to cookbook |
| 15:03 | * oleonard | wishes 2020 had stopped in June |
| 15:03 | magnuse | lulz |
| 15:04 | cait | more .. February |
| 15:04 | do we agree on the general information to collect as stated on the wiki? | |
| 15:04 | the layout section? | |
| 15:04 | caroline_crazycatlady | does anyone have comments on the elements of the contribution (name of dish, short description, estc |
| 15:04 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]RFC#Contributions | |
| 15:05 | magnuse | i was thinking, if we accept more than one receipe per person, it might make sense to collect the info about the people in one place |
| 15:05 | caroline_crazycatlady | we had already discussed we wanted measurements in metric, so g for weight and ml for volume? |
| 15:05 | magnuse | and link bwtween them |
| 15:05 | oleonard | For completeness I would add "List of ingredients" to that list above "how to make the dish" |
| 15:05 | cait | i thin it's there |
| 15:05 | The receipe List of ingredients and quantities | |
| 15:06 | caroline_crazycatlady | yes under "The recipe" |
| 15:06 | cait | ah it's in contributions |
| 15:06 | but missing in layout | |
| 15:06 | caroline_crazycatlady | Do we want more than one contribution per person or just one? |
| 15:06 | oleonard | Right |
| 15:06 | cait | hm i think it depends on how many we get |
| 15:06 | maybe? | |
| 15:06 | caroline_crazycatlady | Ok I added it to the "Layout part" |
| 15:07 | magnuse | yeah, hard to tell if we will get lots of people contributing or not |
| 15:08 | caroline_crazycatlady | circling back to oleonard's copyright comment we have to specify to people that this has to be an original recipe, or at least sufficiently modified from an existing one |
| 15:08 | magnuse | yup |
| 15:08 | cait | are recipes (simple ones) copyrighted? |
| 15:08 | a lot of cake recipes are very basic | |
| 15:08 | caroline_crazycatlady | if they are published, yes |
| 15:09 | cait | waht about things like "pancake batter" |
| 15:09 | oleonard | The US perspective: https://www.copyright.gov/help[…]otect.html#recipe |
| 15:09 | cait | i mean a local recipe might be so general, it's hard to tell |
| 15:09 | something that is very common in a country | |
| 15:09 | A mere listing of ingredients is not protected under copyright law. < | |
| 15:09 | ok, so you have to make sure to write your own text? | |
| 15:10 | caroline_crazycatlady | If it's common, I wouldn't be worried about it |
| 15:10 | cait | #link https://www.copyright.gov/help[…]otect.html#recipe |
| 15:11 | any suggestions on wording? | |
| 15:11 | caroline_crazycatlady | #agreed specify to people that this has to be an original recipe, or at least sufficiently modified from an existing one |
| 15:11 | cait | +1 |
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| 15:11 | * ashimema | requests a beer recipe or two from Joubu ;) |
| 15:12 | caroline_crazycatlady | Oh yeah, that makes me think, do we wait for contributions to see how we want to organized them? |
| 15:12 | oleonard | I think that makes sense |
| 15:12 | cait | ah categories |
| 15:12 | magnuse | me too |
| 15:12 | cait | i think that makes snse too |
| 15:12 | caroline_crazycatlady | meaning in chapters, like desserts (first of course), main courses, drinks, etc |
| 15:12 | cait | but we could state that all is good? cocktails to desserts? :) |
| 15:12 | and beer | |
| 15:12 | magnuse | sure |
| 15:13 | caroline_crazycatlady | #agreed contributions of all sorts of recipes are welcome |
| 15:13 | cait | do we really need to ahve beer? *hides* |
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| 15:14 | magnuse | a separate book for beer receipies? ;-) |
| 15:14 | cait | maybe somethign for another volume |
| 15:14 | magnuse | i wouldn't mind a few |
| 15:14 | oleonard | cait no one will make you try the recipe |
| 15:14 | magnuse | hehe |
| 15:14 | marie-luce | favourite beer from different country |
| 15:15 | cait | was just joking :) |
| 15:15 | ashimema | hehe |
| 15:15 | marie-luce | me too :) |
| 15:15 | really exciting your project | |
| 15:16 | caroline_crazycatlady | The final point in the RFC is license |
| 15:16 | magnuse | related to the question of copyrught is the license of the compilation we are making |
| 15:16 | jinx! ;-) | |
| 15:16 | cait | just got a cake delivery, back in a moment |
| 15:16 | magnuse | :-O |
| 15:16 | oleonard | :D |
| 15:17 | Hey you're not allowed to interrupt food meetings for food!! | |
| 15:17 | magnuse | i think it should be as open as possible, allow for remixing etc |
| 15:17 | caroline_crazycatlady | CC0? CC BY? |
| 15:17 | https://creativecommons.org/about/cclicenses/ | |
| 15:18 | Non-commercial? | |
| 15:19 | Since we are an open-source community, I would go with CC0 | |
| 15:19 | oleonard | I would be fine with CC0 |
| 15:19 | magnuse | tricky |
| 15:19 | CC0 is public domain? | |
| 15:19 | caroline_crazycatlady | yes |
| 15:20 | magnuse | i'm fine with that |
| 15:20 | caroline_crazycatlady | anyone has an objection to CC0? |
| 15:20 | #agreed license will be CC0 | |
| 15:21 | magnuse | cool! |
| 15:21 | caroline_crazycatlady | #link https://creativecommons.org/pu[…]cdomain/zero/1.0/ |
| 15:21 | oops | |
| 15:21 | #link https://creativecommons.org/pu[…]cdomain/zero/1.0/ | |
| 15:21 | magnuse | CC0 x2 = CC0 |
| 15:21 | caroline_crazycatlady | (I shake a lot) |
| 15:22 | (It's a wonder I can actually knit) | |
| 15:22 | Ok so, to summarize | |
| 15:23 | We will send a request for contributions | |
| 15:23 | specifying the format, elements needed, copyright and licese information | |
| 15:24 | Gitlab will be set up | |
| 15:24 | and I think that's all we have to do until next mmeting | |
| 15:24 | am i forgetting something? | |
| 15:24 | magnuse | setting up the template? |
| 15:24 | Joubu | even the picture of the contributosr? |
| 15:25 | caroline_crazycatlady | good point |
| 15:25 | magnuse | do we want pics of contributors? |
| 15:25 | Joubu | yes it's the list |
| 15:26 | caroline_crazycatlady | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]RFC#Contributions |
| 15:26 | oleonard | I don't think we need it, personally |
| 15:26 | Joubu | yes it's *in* the list |
| 15:26 | caroline_crazycatlady | Me either |
| 15:26 | * caroline_crazycatlady | doesn't like having her picture taken |
| 15:27 | caroline_crazycatlady | anyone have strong feeling regarding pictures? |
| 15:27 | magnuse | i put it in the list, but i'm fine with leaving it out |
| 15:28 | caroline_crazycatlady | Can we put exceptions in a license? |
| 15:28 | magnuse | best not to? |
| 15:28 | caroline_crazycatlady | ok so we leave pictures of people out |
| 15:29 | but we want pictures of the dish | |
| 15:29 | Next meeting? | |
| 15:29 | wahanui | i guess Next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
| 15:29 | magnuse | i want to see pics, yes. but they could be optional? |
| 15:30 | did we decide on more than one receipe per contributor? | |
| 15:30 | oleonard | We postponed the decision |
| 15:30 | caroline_crazycatlady | No, we decided to wait and see what we receive |
| 15:31 | magnuse | ok, so if we get a flood we can say "one per person"? |
| 15:31 | sounds good to me | |
| 15:31 | caroline_crazycatlady | Do we give it two months? |
| 15:32 | Or is that too long? | |
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| 15:32 | magnuse | as the deadline for submissions? |
| 15:32 | caroline_crazycatlady | I was thinking next meeting |
| 15:32 | but good point | |
| 15:32 | magnuse | ah, sorry, ok |
| 15:33 | caroline_crazycatlady | I think we can have a deadline later that that |
| 15:33 | give time for people to find, test, wirte and take a picture of their recipe | |
| 15:33 | magnuse | sure |
| 15:34 | caroline_crazycatlady | So Friday march 12 same time for next meeting? |
| 15:35 | magnuse | works for me |
| 15:35 | oleonard | +1 |
| 15:35 | caroline_crazycatlady | #info Next meeting: 12 March 2021, 14:30 UTC |
| 15:35 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:35 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 15:35 | huginn | Meeting ended Fri Jan 15 15:35:38 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:35 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-01-15-14.33.html | |
| 15:35 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]1-01-15-14.33.txt | |
| 15:35 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]15-14.33.log.html | |
| 15:35 | cait | sorry, the cake was real |
| 15:35 | * caroline_crazycatlady | goes to see wat are her action points again... |
| 15:36 | magnuse | awesome meeting folks, this is gonna be so cool! |
| 15:36 | oleonard | cait: Real cake is my favorite |
| 15:36 | caroline_crazycatlady | XD |
| 15:37 | oleonard | I can't wait to submit my recipe for Marseille Cheese Lunch (1. Buy all the cheese 2. Eat all the cheese) |
| 15:37 | magnuse | +1 |
| 15:37 | and pictures | |
| 15:37 | wahanui | pictures are gooood |
| 15:38 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
| 15:38 | caroline_crazycatlady | I'll try to have a couple from our team... we have a very diverse team so it would be interesting |
| 15:38 | oleonard | And we can simply steal all these https://bywatersolutions.com/n[…]ay-cookie-recipes |
| 15:39 | cait | heh :) |
| 15:39 | yep a coworker dropped by to bring me cake... :) | |
| 15:39 | caroline_crazycatlady | nice! |
| 15:41 | * cait | got the best coworkers |
| 15:43 | ashimema | did you see my PM oleonard? |
| 15:43 | oleonard | Yes |
| 15:44 | I often think I'd like to contribute to hea and then I remember I have so much to do as it is | |
| 15:44 | ashimema | any thoughts? |
| 15:44 | haha | |
| 15:44 | I've added some graphs back in.. still not pretty | |
| 15:44 | but a start | |
| 15:44 | the code is a bit .. challenging.. to work with | |
| 15:45 | oleonard | My thought was to provide a kind of "detail view" for a particular preference, so you could click through from the main list and see a breakdown by Koha version and setting |
| 15:48 | ashimema | indeed |
| 15:48 | I was spitballing | |
| 15:49 | oleonard | Now that I think about it I think the installation process was a blocker for testing... |
| 15:50 | Joubu | it's dancer and the DB structure is in the repo |
| 15:50 | install process shouldn't be a blocker | |
| 15:51 | ashimema | I've pushed my proof of concept up and submitted a work in progress merge request |
| 15:52 | what is hea_ws? | |
| 15:52 | Joubu | the webservice |
| 15:52 | ashimema | I only needed hea_app |
| 15:52 | Joubu | yes |
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| 15:52 | * oleonard | should take another crack at it |
| 15:52 | Joubu | hea_ws is the service called by the Koha install to upload their data |
| 15:52 | ashimema | ah.. of course |
| 15:53 | my quick hack: http://mrdev-zebra-staff.koha-[…]erence_by_version | |
| 15:53 | my d3 isn't very good... I'm thinking stacked bard would be nice | |
| 15:53 | bars.. even | |
| 15:57 | biblibre host hea still don't they? | |
| 16:03 | liliputech_asu | according to the dns , yes it is |
| 16:03 | hea.koha-community.org.3599INCNAMEbs-acces.biblibre.com. | |
| 16:06 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:21 | cait | khall_: around maybe? |
| 16:21 | or kidclamp? | |
| 16:21 | wahanui | rumour has it kidclamp is reply i guess kidclamp is the first RM not to be bribed |
| 16:21 | cait | or both? :) |
| 16:22 | or anyone else interested/knowing about course reserves? | |
| 16:22 | oleonard: are you using course reserves in some way? | |
| 16:22 | caroline_crazycatlady: ? :) | |
| 16:22 | caroline_crazycatlady | some, what is the question? |
| 16:22 | oleonard | cait no |
| 16:23 | I've only tested it | |
| 16:23 | cait | we are sponsoring a new feature |
| 16:23 | bug 14237 | |
| 16:23 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14237 enhancement, P2, ---, hayleymapley, In Discussion , Allow bibs to be added to course without items |
| 16:23 | cait | because our electronic resources usually have no items... but people want to put them in course reserves |
| 16:24 | caroline_crazycatlady | for online ressources? |
| 16:24 | makes sense | |
| 16:24 | cait | yep |
| 16:24 | the question is how to do it in the database | |
| 16:24 | we could add a biblionumber column to course_items... or create a new table | |
| 16:25 | at the moment i lean a bit towards the latter, i think you'd only need the course Id and the bilbionumber... and all the rest of course_items would remain unused/empty... also the name doesn't fit then | |
| 16:25 | but not sure if that woudl be the best way to do it | |
| 16:26 | caroline_crazycatlady | I was leaning towards the first, but I'm not a DB architect, so I'm not the best person to ask |
| 16:26 | I don't necessarily want tables with a gazillion columns | |
| 16:27 | oleonard | Compare it to holds, where the reserve table has biblionumber and itemnumber, right? But only a hold with an itemnumber is an item-level hold. |
| 16:27 | Could it be similar for course reserves? | |
| 16:27 | cait | true |
| 16:27 | but the other holds columns are used for both | |
| 16:27 | http://schema.koha-community.o[…]course_items.html | |
| 16:27 | Joubu: maybe you know about the consequences more? | |
| 16:28 | caroline_crazycatlady | true |
| 16:28 | nothing else would be filled | |
| 16:29 | cait | timestamp |
| 16:29 | heh :) | |
| 16:31 | hm but we have no clear vote yet, right? | |
| 16:31 | caroline_crazycatlady | no |
| 16:32 | cait | thx for looking into this with me |
| 16:33 | caroline_crazycatlady | sorry I couldn't really help |
| 16:33 | cait | it's ok, i am stuck on this too |
| 16:33 | that's why we put it on bugzilla | |
| 16:58 | ashimema | I can think about it over the weekend cait |
| 16:58 | Right now.. a beer is calling | |
| 16:59 | lukeG1 | Enjoy ashimema! |
| 17:00 | ashimema | :-) |
| 17:02 | Ooh, ooh... Thanks for the signoff lukeG1 | |
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| 17:20 | cait | ashimema: have a nice weekend :) |
| 17:20 | I'll be semi-around on monday - another presentation to prepare... | |
| 17:23 | ashimema | Enjoy the weekend #koha friends |
| 17:23 | oleonard-away | Martin Luther King Jr. Holiday for Americans on Monday |
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| 17:52 | cait | enjoy yor holiday! |
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