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| 07:03 | fridolin | hi here |
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| 07:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:36 | wahanui | kia ora, reiveune |
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| 07:48 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 08:18 | nlegrand | gut morgn #koha, un a gut yor! |
| 08:19 | magnuse | god morgen nlegrand |
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| 08:22 | cait1 | good morning #koha :) |
| 08:33 | nlegrand | o/ magnuse cait1 |
| 08:45 | cait1 | fridolin: are you using OpacBrowser in your libraries? the manual says: If you have the␠:ref:`OpacBrowser` preference set decide␠:ref:`when you want the contents to rebuild <cron-authorities-browser-label>` (French libraries only) - is it French or UNIMARC? |
| 08:50 | fridolin | hueuu |
| 08:51 | old code here | |
| 08:52 | "Browse by hierarchy" | |
| 08:52 | I search | |
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| 08:52 | dersmon | hey! |
| 08:55 | fridolin | cait1: looking at https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences |
| 08:55 | I see only 4 with syspref on | |
| 08:55 | so i think we dont enable it at Biblibre | |
| 08:56 | cait1 | fridolin: hm ok, wonder what it is! |
| 08:56 | thx for checking fridolin++ | |
| 08:56 | fridolin | Its generated by misc/cronjobs/build_browser_and_cloud.pl |
| 08:58 | cait1: yeeeek its french hardcoded in this cronjob | |
| 08:58 | ashimema | morning |
| 08:58 | fridolin | I think you can propose to remove this code |
| 08:59 | ashimema | lol |
| 09:00 | curse you cait1, you knocked me off the top spot :P | |
| 09:00 | cait1 | heh, but what about the four using it? |
| 09:00 | * ashimema | kinda wanted to encourage someone other than cait1 ;) |
| 09:00 | cait1 | I only did like 4! |
| 09:00 | ashimema | I know.. |
| 09:01 | I only QA'd one more than you to kick you off the top spot yesterday to be fair.. so I wasn't a hard tartget for you really ;) | |
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| 09:04 | Joubu | fridolin, cait: It's not 4, it's 304! |
| 09:06 | fridolin | ah oups |
| 09:06 | ok then | |
| 09:06 | cait1 | heh |
| 09:06 | and can you tell if it's "French" or "UNIMARC" specific? | |
| 09:06 | fridolin | note that french text is harcoded in script, its the Dewey classification |
| 09:07 | cait1 | oh interesting |
| 09:07 | french dewey? :) | |
| 09:07 | fridolin | cait1: it is not UNIMARC specific, and can be used in non-french |
| 09:07 | but text is only displayed for french lang I think | |
| 09:08 | Joubu | I'd ask paul_p |
| 09:09 | cait1 | ok, maybe we can write "in french only" in hte manual to make it more clear |
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| 11:04 | oleonard | HI #koha |
| 11:06 | cait2 | hi oleonard :) |
| 11:06 | ... and off for lunch break | |
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| 12:10 | oleonard | ashimema: Bug 27420 is indeed a weird one |
| 12:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27420 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , A mistake in bug 5161 leads to some patron attributes appearing without a fieldset |
| 12:11 | oleonard | It makes me wonder if it has always been the case that one has to select a class for an attribute type. There's no "blank" option. |
| 12:15 | cait2 | hm no |
| 12:15 | i think there should be a blank.... i can check in 18.11? | |
| 12:16 | ashimema | you don't have to select one.. |
| 12:16 | cait2 | our PA_CLASS pull down is empty |
| 12:16 | ashimema | if you don't, they just get added without a fieldset container |
| 12:16 | cait2 | i think they have a container |
| 12:16 | but it#s the general one | |
| 12:16 | ashimema | also.. you con't actually have to stick to the PA_CLASS av set either.. you can just type into the box if you've not added any PA_CLASS's |
| 12:16 | * ashimema | is in a call with the customer who is using all this stuff right now as it happens |
| 12:17 | oleonard | Unfortunately I still see problems after your patch |
| 12:17 | ashimema | oh really.. |
| 12:17 | that's interesting | |
| 12:18 | I actually only tested it on a 20.11.00 | |
| 12:18 | 'tis on my list to upgrade that customer to .01 release today actually | |
| 12:18 | I'll have a go with the patch on master | |
| 12:19 | * ashimema | goes back to his call |
| 12:19 | ashimema | bbiab |
| 12:20 | cait2 | ashimema: i can't type into the box |
| 12:20 | ashimema | if you don't have any PA_CLASS av's defined.. the box becomes a text box instead of a selectbox |
| 12:20 | cait2 | hm you can't delete categoriesand this one gets added by default |
| 12:20 | so you have to delete it using sQL... | |
| 12:20 | so I'd say that's a non-standard solution :) | |
| 12:21 | ashimema | the category can exists |
| 12:21 | cait2 | mine is empty and i have no text field |
| 12:21 | ashimema | the actaul values within it can be deleted I think |
| 12:21 | can't they? | |
| 12:21 | and it's empty to start | |
| 12:21 | oh really | |
| 12:21 | that's interseting | |
| 12:21 | oleonard | I get a text input if there are no values for PA_CLASS |
| 12:21 | cait2 | customization? |
| 12:21 | hm maybe a newer vresion thing | |
| 12:21 | ashimema | yeay, oleonard can replicate :) |
| 12:21 | cait2 | in 18.11 you can't :) |
| 12:22 | but back to the first question... i think a blank value is needed and in 18.11 without a class they get a general fieldset | |
| 12:22 | ashimema | yup |
| 12:22 | well.. ish | |
| 12:22 | cait2 | the label is "Additional attributes and identifiers" |
| 12:22 | ashimema | yeah.. I see that |
| 12:22 | then I also see a fieldset per class inside that.. | |
| 12:23 | and.. if there are some attributes without a class then they just sit in the parent fieldset | |
| 12:23 | at least that's what I was seeing this morning. | |
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| 12:28 | oleonard | cait2 did you see the discussion I had with ashimema the other day about Bug 27289? |
| 12:28 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Template tweaks for point of sale page |
| 12:28 | cait2 | sorry, I didn't |
| 12:29 | in a video conf, so reading back is a bit hard, can you summarize? | |
| 12:29 | oleonard | We talked about it for a bit and ultimately felt that trying to address your issue with the "required" labels would create more problems than it would solve. |
| 12:30 | cait2 | i just feel it looks a bit cluttery |
| 12:30 | because the text that appears is so long | |
| 12:30 | and it always displays then | |
| 12:31 | and it's even worse in German | |
| 12:33 | well more like very cluttery | |
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| 12:50 | cait2 | could we go with just "required" there? |
| 12:52 | oleonard | That's a good idea |
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| 13:01 | ashimema | ? |
| 13:01 | but it is both required and required to be a above a certain amount | |
| 13:02 | I don't know that you can remove the message without also removing the actual amount validations | |
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| 13:07 | oleonard | You can modify the error message for a generic "required" field so that it says "Required" rather than "This field is required" |
| 13:07 | * oleonard | is fiddling with it |
| 13:07 | ashimema | :) |
| 13:08 | what issues were you still seeing with bug 27420 btw? | |
| 13:08 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27420 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , A mistake in bug 5161 leads to some patron attributes appearing without a fieldset |
| 13:08 | ashimema | it all appears to work with my patch on master to me. |
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| 13:10 | oleonard | I don't have it in front of my anymore but there were still issues with things not being in fieldsets correctly |
| 13:11 | ashimema | humm |
| 13:11 | ok.. I might need more to go on to replicate issues when you have a moment ;) | |
| 13:11 | no rush though | |
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| 13:45 | cait2 | oleonard-away: thx for the patch for upcoming events :) |
| 13:46 | domm | where can I specify the smtp server (and port, etc) to use for sending mails? |
| 13:47 | I can't find any hint in koha-conf.xml, google or the admin ui | |
| 13:48 | ashimema | that's very recently changed in Koha domm.. what version are you running? |
| 13:49 | domm | 20.11 |
| 13:49 | ashimema | aha.. :) |
| 13:50 | Koha administration > SMPT servers | |
| 13:50 | in that case :) | |
| 13:50 | domm | ah, ok, NOW i see it.. |
| 13:50 | ashimema | hehe |
| 13:51 | it's very new.. hence I'm not sure it's been fully documented yet | |
| 13:51 | but it does work well when I tested it.. | |
| 13:51 | prior to this release you had to just configure it at the server.. i.e via your systems MTA | |
| 13:52 | domm | (but when I enter smtp into the search-system-prefs box, this option does not show up..) |
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| 13:53 | ashimema | the search-system-prefs box only searches the 'System preferences' |
| 13:53 | domm | ok, good that you added this, because I want to send via localhost:1025 on my dev machine, so I can use a fake-mailer |
| 13:53 | ashimema | this is it's own configuration area self contained |
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| 13:55 | domm | well, I'm still finding my way around Koha, so it's unfortunantley not always very clear to me, what is what. But if i figure out where to look (or what I'm actually after) it's usually very well documented :-) |
| 13:58 | ashimema | :) |
| 13:58 | oleonard | cait2: I hope I didn't miss some code somewhere... I didn't expect to only find template stuff |
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| 14:15 | ashimema | did you say you had some idea's for bug 27289 oleonard.. or should I take a look myself? |
| 14:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Template tweaks for point of sale page |
| 14:15 | domm | how do I tell cronjobs/process_message_queue.pl to use the non-default smtp server? |
| 14:16 | or how do I mark another smtp server as default? | |
| 14:16 | oleonard | ashimema I'm trying to leverage some of the more obscure settings of the validation plugin |
| 14:16 | ashimema | you don't ;) |
| 14:16 | once you've defined an smtp server from that UI | |
| 14:16 | you can then assign it to the branches | |
| 14:16 | * ashimema | reminds himself how it works for domm |
| 14:18 | ashimema | domm, it seems we didn't finish adding something I requested.. an easy way to one smtp server as the system default |
| 14:18 | domm | library_smtp_servers is emtpy, from the code I assume something needs to be in there |
| 14:19 | (the db table library_smtp_servers) | |
| 14:19 | ashimema | so.. if you go to 'System administration > Libraries' |
| 14:19 | and then edit a libray your interested in.. you can select which smtp server it uses there | |
| 14:19 | domm | ah, ok, foudn it |
| 14:19 | again, now that I see it, it makes sense :-) | |
| 14:19 | Joubu | oleonard: I was going to SO bug 27420, were you saying it does not work for you? |
| 14:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27420 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , A mistake in bug 5161 leads to some patron attributes appearing without a fieldset |
| 14:19 | ashimema | there's certainly not the greatest user experience |
| 14:20 | domm | step 1: define SMTP server |
| 14:20 | step 2: link SMTP server with library | |
| 14:20 | step 3: spam! | |
| 14:21 | ashimema | lol |
| 14:21 | caroline | step 4: profit! |
| 14:21 | magnuse | step 5: holiday! |
| 14:23 | domm | yay, I got mail! |
| 14:23 | ashimema | nice one |
| 14:23 | tcohen.. wasn't there a way to set a particular smtp server as the default ? | |
| 14:24 | tcohen did this development | |
| 14:24 | I could have swarn there was a simple way of making one of the defined smtp servers the default for all libraries | |
| 14:24 | that would be a nice addition.. right? | |
| 14:24 | Joubu | in $KOHA_CONF |
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| 14:24 | ashimema | yeah.. but I mean in the UI too |
| 14:25 | liliputech_asu | hi koha |
| 14:25 | Joubu | ashimema: nope |
| 14:25 | ashimema | at the moment to get a server to be used you have to add it via SMTP servers.. then go to each library and update it to use the newly added server.. |
| 14:25 | I feel like you should have a 'Make default' option somewhere in the smtp servers configuration UI | |
| 14:26 | so you can override the hard coded fallback in one hit | |
| 14:27 | Joubu | that would make sense |
| 14:29 | ashimema | right.. reported bug 27424 for it. |
| 14:29 | :) | |
| 14:29 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27424 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , One should be able to assign an SMTP server as the default |
| 14:33 | domm | yeah, I agree that this would make sense! |
| 14:33 | Joubu | but what to do if there is one defined in koha-conf? |
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| 14:34 | ashimema | I think there's also a bug open to force the use of koha-conf or not too |
| 14:35 | Joubu | bug 26188 |
| 14:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26188 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Allow disabling SMTP configuration in koha-conf.xml |
| 14:35 | ashimema | that's the one |
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| 14:44 | Joubu | dev meeting in 15 |
| 14:50 | cait2 | oi |
| 14:55 | ashimema | ohla |
| 14:55 | magnuse | what's the syspref for replacing the opac simple search box? or did we get rid of it? version 20.05 |
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| 14:56 | caroline | OpacCustomSearch |
| 14:56 | https://koha-community.org/man[…]able-opac-regions | |
| 14:57 | oleonard | OpacCustomSearch is in news now |
| 14:57 | caroline | It may have been moved to the news tool? |
| 14:58 | magnuse | ah yes, i think i see what happened now. some news items are set to "all" locations, including the OpacCustomSearch one |
| 14:59 | that was not quite obvious | |
| 14:59 | ashimema | we could really do with cleaning up that work.. |
| 14:59 | the News migration stuff that is.. finishing the job and doing it in a somewhat clearer way | |
| 15:00 | Joubu | yes, in the roadmap ;) |
| 15:00 | cait2 | i still want a "all languages" setting |
| 15:00 | :) | |
| 15:00 | oleonard | ^^ Yes |
| 15:00 | ashimema | yup.. me too |
| 15:00 | cait2 | that would make the migrations much more fun |
| 15:00 | migratet hem to all languages instead of duplicating | |
| 15:00 | ashimema | there's some work to convert to Objects.. but I'm not sure if it's testable yet or not |
| 15:00 | oleonard | I could use help with that. I tried to do it in the template and was unsuccessful. |
| 15:00 | cait2 | and let the people split it out later |
| 15:00 | i think it would be great to have before finishing | |
| 15:00 | ashimema | yes.. we need to get to work on working through that roadmap :) |
| 15:01 | Joubu | I am about to start the meeting |
| 15:01 | shhhhut | |
| 15:01 | cait2 | yep |
| 15:01 | we are heere | |
| 15:01 | Joubu | :) |
| 15:01 | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021 | |
| 15:01 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Jan 13 15:01:20 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 15:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:01 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_13_january_2021' |
| 15:01 | Joubu | #topic Introductions |
| 15:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:01 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 15:01 | qa_team? | |
| 15:01 | wahanui | qa_team is probably cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo |
| 15:01 | Joubu | rmaints? |
| 15:01 | wahanui | somebody said rmaints was fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo |
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| 15:01 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 15:01 | kidclamp | #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 15:01 | magnuse | #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
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| 15:02 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 15:02 | cait2 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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| 15:03 | jajm | #info Julian Maurice, BibLibre |
| 15:03 | fridolin | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblire |
| 15:03 | Joubu | #topic Announcements |
| 15:03 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:03 | Joubu | Anyone have something? |
| 15:04 | fridolin | Release of 20.11.01 is there |
| 15:04 | Joubu: do you know about packaging ? | |
| 15:04 | i see perldeps is still 20.11.00 | |
| 15:04 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS-Europe, UK |
| 15:04 | Joubu | I don't, mtj does not seem to be around much |
| 15:04 | maybe he is on holiday | |
| 15:05 | tuxayo | #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France |
| 15:05 | fridolin | oki no pb |
| 15:05 | cait2 | there were some gitlab notices yesterday triggered by him i think? |
| 15:05 | Joubu | fridolin: sent him an email! |
| 15:05 | fridolin | yep oki |
| 15:05 | Joubu | indeed cait2 |
| 15:05 | #topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) | |
| 15:05 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Manager (21.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:05 | cait2 | mjames on koha-testing-docker - so I think he is around in the background |
| 15:06 | Joubu | I am starting to push new enhancements for 21.05. We are entering the month where we can push big things! |
| 15:06 | I really would like to push bug 25026 before end of January. | |
| 15:06 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , RaiseError must be set for the UI |
| 15:06 | Joubu | About the roadmap (https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha_21.05_roadmap) I've sent some emails in the last 2 weeks to start working on some of the topics. |
| 15:06 | You can see the status of some of them (search for "Status:"). | |
| 15:06 | I am assuming everybody put there names and topics for now and I will move the topics without enough volunteers at the bottom ("LATER") | |
| 15:06 | and will continue sending emails next week. | |
| 15:07 | I'd like to highligh bug 20212 on which I worked in the last couple of days to improve it a bit. | |
| 15:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Slowness in receiving in acquisitions |
| 15:07 | Joubu | with bug 27402 and |
| 15:07 | liliputech_asu | #info Arthur Suzuki, BibLibre |
| 15:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27402 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add column filtering to the Datatables REST API wrapper |
| 15:07 | Joubu | bug 27403 |
| 15:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Enable fixedHeader for Datatables |
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| 15:07 | Joubu | It's ready for another SO+QA run. It's quite fun to test if you like REST API and DataTables. |
| 15:07 | any questions? | |
| 15:08 | khall | #info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 15:08 | cait2 | i could share testing with anothr qa member if possible |
| 15:09 | i not so confident about the code checking there, but can test the gui | |
| 15:09 | Joubu | Testing the UI would be very useful |
| 15:09 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 15:09 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:10 | cait2 | or maybe just do the sign-off with a note if i can |
| 15:10 | Joubu | #info 20.11.01 is out, deb packages will be released soon! |
| 15:11 | (hopefully) | |
| 15:11 | fridolin | i mailled |
| 15:11 | Joubu | anything else? |
| 15:11 | wahanui | i heard anything else was necessarily going to be incremental. |
| 15:11 | ashimema | :) |
| 15:11 | fridolin | is 20.05 release tarball ok now ? |
| 15:11 | ashimema | nice to see you back in the swing of things fridolin :) |
| 15:12 | fridolin | yep ;) |
| 15:12 | tuxayo2 | > is 20.05 release tarball ok now ? |
| 15:12 | it's there so it seems ok https://download.koha-community.org/ | |
| 15:12 | Joubu | was there a known problem about 20.05 tarball? |
| 15:12 | fridolin | https://download.koha-community.org/ yep |
| 15:13 | juste Andrew had not SSH access | |
| 15:13 | Joubu | ok, all good if fixed now :) |
| 15:13 | will see later if needed | |
| 15:13 | fridolin | BTW is anyone using it ? |
| 15:13 | do we have stats ? | |
| 15:13 | cait2 | is it 2011 or 20.05? |
| 15:14 | tuxayo2 | stats about version usage? |
| 15:14 | https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences | |
| 15:14 | cait2 | we are testing 20.05 but a bit behind and building our own packages... |
| 15:14 | tuxayo2 | wow 423 reported instances on 20.1100000 |
| 15:15 | ashimema | we have a couple of early adopters testing 20.11 |
| 15:15 | kidclamp | we upgrade to 20.05 in february |
| 15:15 | ashimema | they won't go live on it for a few more months.. but are testing the heck out of it with massive datasets copied from their live sites. |
| 15:15 | big public libraries so far.. might get a uni to thing about testing soon | |
| 15:16 | cait2 | good to hear that! |
| 15:16 | ashimema | 423 live on 20.11 in hea.. wow! |
| 15:17 | can we see history in hea somehow? | |
| 15:17 | I'm interested to see how many of those are new installs vs how many are upgrades | |
| 15:17 | i.e. is there a sudden decrease in 20.05 usage when 20.11 came out | |
| 15:17 | cait2 | 11.600 libaries too - i guess we can up our assumed number quite a bit |
| 15:18 | tuxayo2 | Koha is taking over the world :D |
| 15:19 | > can we see history in hea somehow? | |
| 15:19 | Nope, the only way is to make snapshots at https://web.archive.org/web/20[…]systempreferences | |
| 15:19 | * tuxayo2 | does one now |
| 15:20 | ashimema | `Ex Libris Titley - http://home.ostara.titley.com`.. interesting one to be in our stats |
| 15:21 | Joubu | moving on? |
| 15:21 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
| 15:21 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:21 | cait2 | #info QA queue is around 50ish, not super bad, but could be better! |
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| 15:22 | cait2 | #info Very glad to see more interaction in QA team and quite a bit of QA activity spread out a bit more |
| 15:22 | ashimema | I had a slow start this year.. but have been working through bugs this week |
| 15:22 | cait2 | please keep this up! |
| 15:22 | ashimema | working myself up to looking at the bigger things again |
| 15:22 | kidclamp | ^same |
| 15:22 | cait2 | yes, I need you devs to get rid of the scary ones for me ;) |
| 15:23 | but seriously, some I am not confident to touch, so always happy to see you guys go there | |
| 15:23 | kidclamp | I apologize to anyone who has been subjected to me rewriting things when I tery to QA, I will reign it in |
| 15:23 | Joubu | bug 27251 |
| 15:23 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27251 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Rewrite the QOTD editor using the Koha REST API |
| 15:23 | Joubu | pick that one |
| 15:23 | magnuse | qateam++ |
| 15:23 | ashimema | I'd love to see some others grabbing more of the easy ones.. and thus pushing me back into the harder ones.. |
| 15:23 | tuxayo2 | Had a hard time since last week to spend time on Koha & QA, hopefully thing will get better |
| 15:23 | :) | |
| 15:23 | ashimema | at the minute.. it's been a bit easy to pick low handing fruit ;) |
| 15:24 | Joubu | and bug 24488 |
| 15:24 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24488 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Holds to Pull sometimes shows the wrong 'first patron' details |
| 15:25 | ashimema | ah, that ol' chesnut.. 24488 has been on my list to look at for ages.. but every time I have I'd struggled to wrap my brain around it. |
| 15:26 | Joubu | # Actions from last meeting |
| 15:26 | #topic Actions from last meeting | |
| 15:26 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:26 | Joubu | #topic davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including release notes, manual and wiki (one source of the truth) (still working on this - feel free to reallocate) |
| 15:26 | Topic for #koha is now davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including release notes, manual and wiki (one source of the truth) (still working on this - feel free to reallocate) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:26 | Joubu | #info tuxayo: wikipage draft for System requirements and recommendations. Used by the RMaints for the latest minor release. |
| 15:27 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]d_recommendations | |
| 15:27 | next step would be to review it and find a good place to put them | |
| 15:27 | then we should point to that place from everywhere else | |
| 15:27 | tuxayo | +1 |
| 15:27 | ashimema | +1 |
| 15:27 | Joubu | tuxayo: willing to continue on it? |
| 15:28 | ashimema | they looked solid to me.. seems I forgot to say that :) |
| 15:28 | well done on collecting all the info tuxayo | |
| 15:29 | cait2 | phone call |
| 15:29 | Joubu | Is someone else willing to work on that? |
| 15:31 | ok, will continue by email for now, and update the action for the next meeting if needed | |
| 15:31 | #topic amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc. | |
| 15:31 | Topic for #koha is now amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc. (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:31 | Joubu | I sent a later to amoyano, will send an email |
| 15:31 | postponing | |
| 15:31 | #action amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc. | |
| 15:32 | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) | |
| 15:32 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:32 | Joubu | hum.. last minute topics |
| 15:32 | #topic ILS-DI bug 27423 | |
| 15:32 | Topic for #koha is now ILS-DI bug 27423 (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27423 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ILS-DI should be deprecated and functions moved to REST API |
| 15:32 | Joubu | kidclamp: ? |
| 15:33 | kidclamp | Just to be clear, I am not suggesting we disable or remove it anytime soon |
| 15:33 | It seems this specification is not managed anymore, so I think we should deprecate and consider replacing it | |
| 15:33 | tuxayo | System requirements and recommendations: I'm trying to focus consitently on some other tasks so I'm not sure I'll push much on that. |
| 15:33 | And not sure what more to do to review and I don't know about where is best to put them. | |
| 15:33 | Sorry, was long to write that >< | |
| 15:34 | kidclamp | cait made a good point about it being different from rest api, but I think we could find a way to provide the info more in line with rest |
| 15:34 | ashimema | bug 15522 |
| 15:34 | wahanui | hmmm... bug 15522 is the right place |
| 15:34 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Patch doesn't apply , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
| 15:35 | kidclamp | there are access concerns with current ILS-DI - it provides a lot of unprivileged access that must be managed via server config |
| 15:35 | ashimema | we could certainly start to advertise an intention to eventually deprecate it. |
| 15:35 | Joubu | kidclamp: if we have the REST API routes for the same info, I'd be ok to deprecate them (IMO!) |
| 15:36 | ashimema | I have a feeling it's widely used at the moment |
| 15:36 | kidclamp | agreed |
| 15:36 | Joubu | the other softwares can do the job if they know we are going to drop ILSDI |
| 15:36 | kidclamp | but we have some bugs/enh in the queue and no real clear guidance on how exactly it should work |
| 15:36 | ashimema | but yes.. I'd be keen to reduce our api surface a bit and instead encourage people onto one well maintained one... |
| 15:37 | kidclamp | bug 17229 made me think, and the idea that REST and ILS-DI shoudl match behaviour, raises questions of how they should perform |
| 15:37 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17229 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , ILS-DI HoldTitle and HoldItem should check if patron is expired |
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| 15:38 | kidclamp | please comment more on the bug - i will talk to tomas when he is back about how the REST api can serve similar function, but just seeking discussion at this point |
| 15:39 | ashimema | kidclamp++ |
| 15:39 | Joubu | #topic CI: ok to remove mysql 8 from 20.05 and only test in master? [tuxayo] |
| 15:39 | Topic for #koha is now CI: ok to remove mysql 8 from 20.05 and only test in master? [tuxayo] (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:39 | ashimema | ++ |
| 15:40 | Joubu | yes for me (already answered by email) |
| 15:40 | I will take on it | |
| 15:40 | tuxayo | It was proposed during a discussion about the system requirements and recommendations. |
| 15:40 | No objections? | |
| 15:41 | If there isn't, what to do, just delete the job in the CI or there are more steps? | |
| 15:41 | ashimema | as it's already not appearing in the Dashboard.. yeah.. I think that it' |
| 15:41 | jsut delete it from the CI | |
| 15:41 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:42 | done | |
| 15:42 | ashimema | :) |
| 15:42 | kidclamp | Joubu++ |
| 15:42 | ashimema | nice one |
| 15:42 | Joubu | anything else? |
| 15:42 | wahanui | i think anything else is necessarily going to be incremental. |
| 15:42 | tuxayo | Joubu++ |
| 15:42 | Joubu | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 15:42 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 13 January 2021) | |
| 15:43 | ashimema | do we test 19.x against D10? |
| 15:43 | Joubu | Koha_19.11_D10 |
| 15:43 | ashimema | seems weird we test it against U18 if we don't |
| 15:43 | ah.. | |
| 15:43 | ok.. there's a bug in the dashboard then | |
| 15:43 | haha | |
| 15:43 | I'll fix that | |
| 15:43 | Joubu | #info Next meeting: 27 January 2021, 14 UTC |
| 15:43 | no | |
| 15:44 | #info Next meeting: 27 January 2021, 20 UTC | |
| 15:44 | ashimema | works for me |
| 15:44 | Joubu | #endmeeting |
| 15:44 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 15:44 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Jan 13 15:44:36 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:44 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-01-13-15.01.html | |
| 15:44 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]1-01-13-15.01.txt | |
| 15:44 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]13-15.01.log.html | |
| 15:44 | Joubu | thanks |
| 15:44 | oleonard | Joubu++ |
| 15:45 | I forgot to announce that I left my brain in 2020 | |
| 15:45 | tuxayo | Thanks for chairing Joubu and thanks all :) |
| 15:45 | Joubu | stuck in 2020?? erk! |
| 15:45 | tuxayo | oleonard: that's inconvenient ^^" |
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| 16:08 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:21 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 26962: Compiled CSS <https://git.koha-community.org[…]fcb073bb09ed4c7cf> |
| 16:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 26950: Fix SIP/Message.t <https://git.koha-community.org[…]10c555a0c86490b0b> | |
| 16:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 27416: Make "Modify tag" and "Add tag" translatable <https://git.koha-community.org[…]23f6aa77000841bed> | |
| 16:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 26962: (follow-up) Catch other #000066 occurrences <https://git.koha-community.org[…]1012ca51c893e7ca5> | |
| 16:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 27325: Fix singular/plural forms on the OPAC dashboard <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b2fd93c3e575c690a> | |
| 16:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 27263: Link to preferences mentioned in system preference descriptions <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d3a8477c2f88a5b38> | |
| 16:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 26962: Make print.css pure black <https://git.koha-community.org[…]1502c403a09cfc4e4> | |
| 16:22 | oleonard | ashimema Bug 27289 has me thinking about how we could improve validation errors globally |
| 16:22 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27289 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Template tweaks for point of sale page |
| 16:22 | oleonard | https://zivotdesign.com/n/inde[…]s/6WrBe3G8mzoLXsN |
| 16:35 | ashimema | back now.. |
| 16:35 | That's pretty oleonard | |
| 16:59 | oleonard | Combine that with shorter warnings on the POS page and I think we've got something |
| 16:59 | ashimema | :) |
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| 17:05 | caroline | Is there a term encompassing all the things that are links in a record? |
| 17:06 | I would say authority, but it's not neccesarily authorities | |
| 17:06 | For example http://rn20-test.hapax.inlibro[…]blionumber=260958 | |
| 17:06 | Author, Publisher, Subjects, Genre/Form | |
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| 17:11 | cait2 | i think i call them search links |
| 17:12 | oleonard: loosk nice :) | |
| 17:12 | so it will not show the red long message until you emty it out? | |
| 17:14 | does doemoen know how the authentification for "non-public" reports via json works? | |
| 17:14 | ashimema | ? |
| 17:16 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 17:16 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 17:16 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #185: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/185/ |
| 17:17 | ashimema | @later tell rangi any chance of merging those two outstanding requests on the dashboard? |
| 17:17 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 17:19 | cait2 | ashimema: if i want a program to use a reprot via json that is not set to public |
| 17:19 | it requires authentication | |
| 17:20 | but our documentation is lacking there :) | |
| 17:20 | i assume you could get the cookie via curl or so? | |
| 17:21 | https://koha-community.org/man[…]-reports-services | |
| 17:24 | can you use csv/authentication? | |
| 17:25 | hm that only seems to apply to biblios? | |
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| 18:08 | ashimema | I've wanted to do this in the past too |
| 18:09 | But never managed to work it out | |
| 18:09 | I think rangi wrote it originally..maybe he knows | |
| 18:10 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 18:10 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 18:10 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1535: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1535/ |
| 18:13 | ashimema | looks like it uses standard 'get_template_and_user' |
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| 18:14 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 18:14 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 18:14 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #451: FIXED in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/451/ |
| 18:16 | ashimema | BASIC auth might work cait? |
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| 18:56 | * oleonard | needs a lesson on how to contribute to "side" projects like qa-test-tools |
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| 20:10 | philor | khall_: for https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24480 should we treat SimpleMARC as a stable API and add new methods to insert/copy/move fields in order? |
| 20:10 | huginn | Bug 24480: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Failed QA , Fields added with Marc modifications templates are not added in an ordered way |
| 20:57 | ashimema | I think contributing to most side projects now is basically submitting merge requests on gitlab oleonard |
| 20:58 | Or.. submitting issues there if you're not confident submitting code | |
| 20:58 | A small few of monitor them.. be nice to increase that minority number.. | |
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