IRC log for #koha, 2021-01-05

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07:37 magnuse \o/
07:37 oops, that's a lot of unhappy jenkinses
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07:38 reiveune hello
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07:59 Joubu https://snipboard.io/6an3h7.jpg
07:59 The action list on each cell, wasn't it at the bottom of the cell?
07:59 the "add to cart", "edit record", etc.
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08:02 alex_a Bonjour
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08:13 cait1 good morning #koha!
08:20 magnuse Joubu: i thought it was at the bottom of the cell too, but i checked on a 19.11.11.000 install, and that shows the same as your image
08:22 Joubu thanks magnuse!
08:22 I will ask Owen's opinion when he will be around
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08:36 Joubu fridolin: bug 27055 had to be pushed with a change to ktd, to pick the latest selenium image
08:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27055 major, P5 - low, ---, victor, Pushed to stable , Update Firefox version used in Selenium GUI tests
08:42 Joubu fridolin: nevermind, I thought you pushed it few minutes ago, but you did last week actually
08:47 fridolin yep i fregot to change status
08:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.11_U16 build #18: FAILURE in 1 min 40 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.11_U16/18/
08:47 fridolin Joubu: i've picked some major from master, 20.11.x should be ready for release today or tomorrow
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10:20 * cait1 waves
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12:08 tuxayo hi #koha :)
12:11 magnuse hiya tuxayo
12:11 tuxayo hiya!
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12:57 oleonard Hi #koha
12:59 Joubu: if the action links were at the bottom of the cell that would create problems for titles with lots of items
12:59 It raises the question of whether we could handle the display of items better... and the answer is probably yes.
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13:04 Joubu indeed, oleonard, that makes sense. Thanks
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13:16 cait2 hm
13:16 someone ever dealt with negative overdue fines? :(
13:16 waht I think happened... fine was charged, waived, recalculated after adding closing days
13:16 but i can't quite prove it
13:16 i justwonder how to clean them up best
13:17 amountoutstanding < 0
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13:27 tuxayo Joubu: hi :), A followup has been sent to bug 26847 to fix the test currently failing in master
13:27 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26847 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Make borrower category code accessible in all pages of the OPAC
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13:29 Joubu thanks tuxayo, I am pretty sure it was passing locally before I pushed it yesterday
13:30 maybe I haven't a fresh ktd however
13:31 tuxayo maybe it's still with Selenium 2
13:42 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26847: (follow-up) fix get_attribute() call <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b1bc96bc9e3589496>
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14:20 cait2 ashimema++ :)
14:22 ashimema :)
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14:30 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:30 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:34 Yippee, build fixed!
14:34 wahanui Congratulations!
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15:59 oleonard Idea for staff client search results: https://zivotdesign.com/n/inde[…]s/sFTxsDiGFwixfrH
16:08 tuxayo oleonard: neat :D
16:08 cait2 yep :)
16:09 ashimema nice
16:09 cait2 i can imagine maybe wanting to highlight a local item before the fold
16:09 but that could be laaaater :)
16:10 * ashimema assumes it's using ajax requests against the API?
16:11 oleonard Haha, no it's just hiding and showing the data that's already in the template
16:11 ashimema oh really. all that data is already there
16:11 crumbs
16:12 ok cool..
16:12 oleonard I just took it out of the last column of the search results <table>
16:12 cait2 and we get rid of the 'table' look that way :)
16:13 and the "too much information really" for big library systems I guess
16:13 oleonard I think this makes the search results look a little more streamlined but I'm concerned that folks won't like that they have to click to see the holdings
16:13 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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16:13 Yippee, build fixed!
16:13 wahanui Congratulations!
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16:14 cait2 obvious answer would be to make it an option... but then we'd have to maintain another thing
16:14 would we have a vote / mailing list post?
16:15 oleonard If y'all think it's worthwhlie to pursue, yes
16:15 * oleonard wonders if lukeG1 is around
16:15 cait2 maybe email him directly?
16:17 caroline fwiw, I think it's nice
16:17 I can think of one client who wouldn't like it, but I think most of them clieck on the title to see the item details anyway
16:17 cait2 i always do that
16:17 * cait2 confesses
16:18 ashimema random question...
16:18 does it ever make sense to multiply money by money..
16:18 caroline like compound interest?
16:18 cait2 ?
16:18 ashimema i.e wouldn't you always for $3.50 * 2.. or 2 * £1.50..
16:18 but never do
16:19 $3.05 * $2.00
16:19 cait2 I can not imagine a use case right now...
16:19 ashimema I can't see how it makes sense
16:19 oleonard I can't either
16:19 ashimema the scientist in me turns that into $$6.10
16:19 caroline No I don't think you would multiply money by money
16:19 * cait2 writes a manual
16:19 finds bad translations
16:19 ashimema there's tests in a module I'm reading here for it.. but I would say the right result is to go bang
16:19 not do something
16:19 * cait2 fixes them on Pootle
16:20 uses dev tools to cheat for her screenshots
16:20 cait2 ok... no wi know why this takes way too long.
16:24 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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16:32 tuxayo sneaky cait ^^
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23:44 caroline cait and/or ashimema and/or anyone who understands serial frequencies: my clients are often confused about units per issue vs issues per unit and I noticed there was nothing about this in the manual. I tried to explain it can you review my "tip" (line 59) https://gitlab.com/carolinecyr[…]ource/serials.rst
23:46 cait caroline: always takes me a few attempts too
23:47 i might steal that for my German manual :)
23:47 just writing a serials one our our wiki atm
23:52 caroline it's a big one with a lot of ramifications... I had a support ticket asking me a bunch of questions on serials which is what prompted me to review the chapter in the manual
23:53 cait similar for me
23:54 i hope to move some thing sto the manual later, but need to get something out now
23:54 i have a bunch of tickets tagged with documentation about serials
23:54 and i really need something that i can point poeple too - also because we plan for online training soon
23:57 ... and ignore lal the typos :)
23:57 i forgot to write: reads good to me
23:57 caroline lol thanks!
23:57 Is that how you explain it too?
23:58 cait i haven't written that part
23:58 but i do something similar for the patterns
23:58 add 1 issue every 6 days until ... then go back to 1
23:58 or so
23:59 caroline I always tell them to write it in the description as "1/2 months" or "1/6 months" beause that way it gives you the answer 1/2 or 1/6
23:59 "2/month" 2/1

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