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| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:07 | cait1 | good morning #koha! |
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| 08:16 | tcohen | hi |
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| 08:19 | cait1 | oh hi tcohen |
| 08:19 | early for you! | |
| 08:19 | tcohen | thunderstorm woke me up |
| 08:19 | will go back to bed hehe | |
| 08:20 | cait1 | sounds like a good idea |
| 08:23 | Joubu | @later tell AndrewFH 27108 needs to be reverted from 20.05.x |
| 08:23 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:29 | magnuse | bug 27108 |
| 08:29 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27108 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to oldstable , Update team for 21.05 cycle |
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| 09:09 | ashimema | not sure it does Joubu? |
| 09:11 | Joubu | ashimema: hum, why not? |
| 09:11 | ashimema | it'll be the 21.06 stuff it gets the 'Current maintenance team' from |
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| 09:12 | ashimema | so.. the column on the right of the 'Koha team' page changes every six months now to reflect the new team ;) |
| 09:12 | we don't remove anything.. we just add to that teams yaml file | |
| 09:12 | so backporting for the three support releases is the right thing to do.. I think | |
| 09:13 | that way.. if people are actually updating each month, they'll have the correct information available should that want to know who the current maintenance team is. :) | |
| 09:14 | Joubu | you are right, it will only add the "21.05" roles next to the names |
| 09:14 | @later tell AndrewFH disclaimer, don't revert 27108! :) | |
| 09:14 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 09:14 | Joubu | thx ashimema |
| 09:14 | ashimema | :) |
| 09:14 | no worries | |
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| 11:46 | cait2 | quiet Friday |
| 11:50 | tcohen | hi all |
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| 12:20 | magnuse | kia ora |
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| 13:17 | nlegrand | good afternoon |
| 13:37 | magnuse | bonjour nlegrand |
| 13:43 | nlegrand | Hei magnuse! |
| 13:44 | magnuse | wie geht's? |
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| 14:19 | nlegrand | magnuse: ausgezeichnet! |
| 14:20 | bald die Ferien! | |
| 14:28 | * cait2 | screatches her head |
| 14:28 | cait2 | waht happened? |
| 14:28 | someone switched #koha to German? | |
| 14:28 | ashimema | Ich spreche kein Deutsch |
| 14:28 | ;) | |
| 14:34 | caroline | I was just watching a video in which a French man said all French know one sentence in German : Ich bin ein Kartoffel |
| 14:35 | cait2 | interesting |
| 14:35 | i am a potato | |
| 14:35 | i should havenot said that | |
| 14:35 | caroline | For me the only one I learned was Ich liebe Dich, which my dad said to me before going to bed |
| 14:36 | cait2 | :) |
| 14:39 | caroline | Is there more than one type of love in German? In English there is like and love, in french there is just love |
| 14:40 | cait2 | ther is like and love in German |
| 14:41 | mögen und lieben | |
| 14:41 | hm even some other terms for like that come to mind | |
| 14:42 | domm | sorry for a short more-on-topic question regarding stage_marc_import.pl, which I'm converting to a BackgroundJob: I think the a better name than BackgroundJob::StageMARCImport is just BackgroundJob::MARCImport (as the actual staging is done in the form, which will then start (stage) the actual import |
| 14:42 | ) | |
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| 14:52 | jim | hello |
| 14:56 | Joubu | Yes, domm! |
| 14:58 | domm | Or ImportMARC, so the acronym does not clash with the CamelCase? |
| 14:58 | sorry.. naming things :-) | |
| 15:01 | Joubu | MARCImport is clearer for Koha people I think, for ears |
| 15:01 | but I am bad at naming things :D | |
| 15:03 | domm: don't hesitate to release early, even if not finished yet! | |
| 15:09 | nlegrand | caroline: to say like in French, it's very weird, you say love good. I like that -> I love that good. Which is a bit weird. |
| 15:10 | caroline | j'aime bien, right |
| 15:11 | nlegrand | It's not weirder any than when we say in French “without a doubt” which means “maybe”. |
| 15:11 | Language is weird. :D | |
| 15:12 | mhmm... | |
| 15:12 | caroline | language is fun :D |
| 15:12 | nlegrand | my writing is a bit inconsistent today... |
| 15:12 | caroline: yup ^^ | |
| 15:13 | caroline | Should Datedue in the case be translated? https://snipboard.io/yXPFtT.jpg |
| 15:13 | *this case | |
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| 15:13 | caroline | I'm always suspicious when words are together without a space like this |
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| 15:15 | Joubu | note the CASE, but the other one can be translated |
| 15:15 | do you see where it's displayed? it's the circ rules | |
| 15:16 | nlegrand | anywaaaaay.... Time to stop working, I wish you all a nice end of year! See you all in 2021 (which maybe will be a little bit less crappy than 2020). I hope very much we could have a hackfest. |
| 15:16 | Joubu | The stored value of the new rule 'daysmode' is Calendar, Datedue, Days, etc. |
| 15:16 | jim | Can anybody tell me how to put autocomplete search for publisher in 260 b |
| 15:16 | Joubu | the title of the span element is a "tooltip" to explain what does the value |
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| 15:17 | Joubu | The string displayed is what you have inside the span (so the second "Calendar", etc.) |
| 15:17 | caroline | this? https://snipboard.io/gEjris.jpg |
| 15:17 | Joubu | so you can translate it, but not sure you will find something meaningful |
| 15:17 | yes! | |
| 15:18 | caroline | But Datedue is not anywhere |
| 15:18 | Joubu | are you comparing the same code and UI? |
| 15:18 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27026 | |
| 15:18 | huginn | Bug 27026: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , New circulation rule "Days mode" values are not explained anywhere |
| 15:19 | caroline | I think the drop-down menu is this code https://snipboard.io/qg8tTM.jpg |
| 15:19 | Joubu | ha |
| 15:19 | erk | |
| 15:19 | both should have been updated on 27026 I'd say | |
| 15:20 | caroline | oh I think I get it |
| 15:20 | one is the result of the selection and the other is the selection itself | |
| 15:21 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:21 | one is the dropdown, the other is what is displayed in the table | |
| 15:21 | both should be identical | |
| 15:21 | caroline | ok I'll just translate it to Next open day |
| 15:23 | domm | Joubu: ok, than I'll stick with MARCImport (also saves me renaming files :-) |
| 15:25 | caroline | thanks for the help Joubu! |
| 15:25 | Joubu | caroline: bug 27280 |
| 15:25 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27280 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Explanation for "Days mode" is not consistent |
| 15:25 | caroline | lol did you just do it right now? |
| 15:26 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:26 | caroline | Joubu++ |
| 15:31 | signed off ;) | |
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| 15:56 | magnuse | have fun #koha! |
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| 16:19 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:34 | cait2 | have a nice weekend everyone! |
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| 16:47 | kohaputti | I noticed the holdingbranch is updated only after checking out the item, meaning the circulation rules will be taken from the where it is actually physically not in |
| 16:47 | I'm guessing we should update it before | |
| 16:48 | caroline | how did the item get to the holding branch? |
| 16:48 | transfer? | |
| 16:48 | kohaputti | no, the transfer was skipped because they are in same building |
| 16:48 | caroline | the transfer should update the holding branch |
| 16:49 | kohaputti | yeah, it would work like that |
| 16:49 | caroline | ah maybe that's why, the step of changing the holding branch is missing |
| 16:49 | kohaputti | just thinking if this is done, I think one would want to use the correct holding branch (like where it is at the moment of checkout) and not where it used to be |
| 16:50 | in case there was no transfer done and the book magically appeared to the other branch | |
| 16:50 | caroline | isn't there a syspref that let's yu specify the branch where the transaction is done |
| 16:51 | trying to find the name | |
| 16:51 | kohaputti | There is HomeOrHoldingBranch |
| 16:51 | and then there is CircControl | |
| 16:51 | caroline | CircControl |
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| 16:52 | caroline | CircControl is the one I was thinking of |
| 16:52 | Use the checkout and fines rules of the library your are logged in at | |
| 16:52 | kohaputti | if you use circontrol you can use the "library you are logged in" at but it has more bugs than "the library the item is" from option :D |
| 16:53 | caroline | ah... no clients have reported bugs to me :/ it's either good or not good |
| 16:53 | kohaputti | the renewals and fines don't use the same rules with library you are logged in at |
| 16:53 | we have branch specific rules that cause the problems | |
| 16:53 | with only default rules it would be fine | |
| 16:54 | and I guess some subset of branch specific rules there is no issues either | |
| 16:54 | anyway, I'm thinking of submitting a patch for updating the holdingbranch before checkout | |
| 16:55 | caroline | I guess that would make sense too |
| 16:55 | ashimema | humm.. checkin should update holding branch in all cases I thought |
| 16:55 | so I'm wondering how you end up doing a checkout form a library the item isn't already at | |
| 16:55 | caroline | we're talking about checkout |
| 16:56 | ashimema | indeed.. |
| 16:56 | kohaputti | ashimema, checkin updates, but this is checkout I'm talking about |
| 16:56 | caroline | they just walked to the "other" library |
| 16:56 | ashimema | but how is the items holdingbranch not the branch you're performing the checkout from? |
| 16:56 | kohaputti | ashimema, because the places are nearby so there is no koha transfer made |
| 16:56 | ashimema | as in.. they stole the book from one library, then walked into the second to check it out? |
| 16:56 | kohaputti | or... maybe somebody finds a book on the ground and takes it to wrong library |
| 16:57 | ashimema | shouldn't you 'checkin' in that case.. rather than check out?? |
| 16:57 | oop.. keyboard is silly today.. seems to be repeating characters | |
| 16:57 | caroline | both libraries are in the same building, so I think the staff just went and got the book |
| 16:58 | I think there is definitely a step missing here, like a transfer or something | |
| 16:58 | kohaputti | ashimema, you probably should but you could also checkout the book to the person who just brought it back to the library without checkin it first |
| 16:58 | ashimema, just thinking the corner cases here | |
| 16:58 | ashimema | interesting |
| 16:58 | caroline | but it would make sens to update theholding library before checkout |
| 16:58 | ashimema | I actually thought in that case we automagically called AddReturn |
| 16:58 | kohaputti | if there is no downsides why not |
| 16:59 | ashimema | there are soooooo many darn routes through that code |
| 16:59 | enough to send anyone crazy ;P | |
| 16:59 | caroline | trying to think of a case where we wouldn't want that |
| 16:59 | ashimema | there's a bunch of stuff around WrongTransfer you might want to think about? |
| 17:00 | kohaputti | ashimema, yup, will read through the code to see if there are any blockers before submitting patch |
| 17:01 | the current circulation.pl code just calls CanBookBeIssued and then AddIssue | |
| 17:02 | ashimema | fun |
| 17:02 | thanks kohaputti | |
| 17:02 | I do trust you. :) | |
| 17:02 | late on a friday.. my brain is mush | |
| 17:03 | kohaputti | should go probably enjoy weekend soon :) |
| 17:03 | ashimema | :) |
| 17:03 | * kohaputti | thinks AddIssue is scary |
| 17:04 | kohaputti | there is loots of fine and transfer code |
| 17:04 | the fine code is because of renewals | |
| 17:05 | somewhere somebody should have probs called AddRenewal instead of AddIssue | |
| 17:07 | ashimema | lol |
| 17:07 | yup | |
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| 18:00 | kohaputti | ashimema, hmm, I guess I need gitlab account to do the code review for transfers, but I noticed in the toggle_indemand function already a problem so before I forget and get around it here it is: the code inside the if block is another function so if you can take it it would be easier to understand because it has then a name attached to it, and the tests will be easier to make because you can focus on smaller amount of cases |
| 18:03 | ashimema, hmm, if you could send the patches via email I could do inline review | |
| 18:04 | I guess I can send them to myself and the comments then to you... or just sign-up on gitlab | |
| 18:05 | ashimema | I'm open to any form of feedback.. so what ever works easiest for you really |
| 18:05 | Just cooking and bits at the minute. | |
| 18:06 | GitHub, gitlab.. and branch anywhere... Or just sticking to bugzilla and I'll attempt to maintain it there.. | |
| 18:06 | I tend to find it hard to see full context on bz | |
| 18:09 | kohaputti | ok, will come up with something. I'm going now, have a nice weekend, and holidays too :) I will get around probably in January for in-depth review given it looks like this will take min 4 hours to review |
| 18:11 | Transfer.pm is missing license text | |
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