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| 07:24 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 07:24 | wahanui | kia ora, alex_a |
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| 07:39 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:36 | ashimema | good morning 'koha |
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| 08:37 | nlegrand | bonjour |
| 08:37 | wahanui | hi, nlegrand |
| 08:37 | nlegrand | wahanui: a good day sir |
| 08:37 | wahanui | nlegrand: huh? |
| 08:37 | nlegrand | wahanui: calire taught me how to speak proper english |
| 08:37 | wahanui | nlegrand: sorry... |
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| 08:47 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 08:53 | ashimema | OK.. silly question |
| 08:53 | our translations system.. what 'language codes' do we use.. | |
| 08:54 | do we stick fo ISO 359 ? | |
| 08:54 | sorry, ISO 639.. and if we do.. do we stick to a particular version? | |
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| 09:56 | ashimema | Joubu++ #KohaAdvent |
| 09:56 | https://koha-community.gitlab.[…]translate-plugin/ | |
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| 10:28 | fridolin | whoo |
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| 11:41 | ashimema | oleonard around? |
| 11:41 | oleonard | Kinda! |
| 11:41 | ashimema | got a moment for some UX thoughts? |
| 11:42 | I'm resurrecting bug 26282 | |
| 11:42 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26282 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , Allow staff to decide if a hold cancellation notice will be sent when cancelling a hold |
| 11:42 | oleonard | Sure |
| 11:42 | ashimema | wanted your thoughts on "Checkbox for notify" vs "Confirm/Confirm and notify/Cancel" buttons |
| 11:43 | oleonard | Off the top of my head I'd say buttons for everything. Checkboxes are so fiddly. |
| 11:44 | And we have other instances of "confirm and notify" so it won't look weird | |
| 11:45 | ashimema | coolios.. that's what I thought |
| 11:45 | further to that.. at what point would you say we cross into 'too many button options' territory | |
| 11:45 | I've not spotted we already have a 'Confirm' and 'Confirm and return to' option on one of the modal | |
| 11:46 | oh.. hang on.. it's 'Confirm and return' OR 'Confirm' depending on a param | |
| 11:46 | that could still work | |
| 11:46 | I'll have a punt | |
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| 12:43 | domm | We are currently looking into fixing/implementing bug 27146 (prefill/autogenerate values). Currently we can use the value_builder plugins to create a value when a user focuses a field. But users still need to click/tab through all the fields. |
| 12:43 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27146 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , add pluggability to save/store on add/edit bibliographic data |
| 12:43 | domm | We are thinking of adding functionality to either prefill some fields (000, 004, 005) on load, or before the submit. |
| 12:43 | Currently users get an alert containing missing fields, and after closing the alert the defaults are prefilled. | |
| 12:43 | AFAIK Mark Hofstätter discussed our (very rough) plan here? | |
| 12:43 | I'm not sure if we should implement this in Koha itself (cataloguing/addbiblio.pl and cataloguing/value_builder/) or via a plugin. | |
| 12:43 | And if you prefere a JavaScript solution, or something actually happening in the Perl backend. | |
| 12:43 | And if there is better place to discuss this than IRC (mailing list? bugzilla?), please point me to it. | |
| 12:50 | magnuse | anyone else having trouble with bath decord modification and marc modification templates? i'm trying to do "Add new field 942$c with value Y if 952$c matches X" but no 942 is added to the record. there are some errors in the apache log |
| 12:51 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "batch_record_modification" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26425 |
| 12:51 | magnuse | same lack of results for "Update existing or add new" |
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| 13:03 | magnuse | s/bath decord/batch record/ |
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| 13:10 | tuxayo | domm: hi :) here can be a good place, it depend on the moment and who is around. Otherwise it's the Developers List https://koha-community.org/sup[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 13:17 | domm | tuxayo: ok, so I'll wait a bit if anybody comments here, and if not, send a mail... |
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| 13:33 | ashimema | anyone here familiar with holds and the cancellation flows? |
| 13:34 | * ashimema | is trying to understand what the 'Update hold(s)' button does.. it's really unclear from the UI |
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| 13:57 | caroline | ashimema: where is that button? user's file or holds lists? |
| 13:58 | ashimema | biblio page, holds tab |
| 13:58 | I 'think' it is only used when you change the pickup location | |
| 13:58 | frankly.. I find that page really funky and odd | |
| 13:59 | changing priorities, cancelling and suspending are inline actions in the table(s) | |
| 13:59 | but changing date, expiration and pickup library I 'think' require you to click the 'Update hold(s)' button above the table? | |
| 14:00 | there's some weirdly hidden forms in there too.. which I can't for the life of me work out how to trigger them | |
| 14:00 | but they do flash up on page load before dissapearing again | |
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| 14:19 | oleonard | ashimema tcohen and I have talked about updating that table to use the API for many months now |
| 14:19 | I've taken a crack at it but never really got anywhere | |
| 14:19 | ashimema | :) |
| 14:19 | oleonard | Was waiting on his DataTables API stuff |
| 14:19 | ashimema | it's a mess |
| 14:20 | even without updating it to full on API I'm sure we could do better | |
| 14:20 | just making it more consistent | |
| 14:20 | it's a weird mix of flows at the minute | |
| 14:21 | there's a JS hidden 'cancellation reason' select box under the 'Update hold(s)' button.. any idea how that is ever exposed? | |
| 14:23 | oleonard | No idea. |
| 14:24 | ashimema | okies |
| 14:24 | oleonard | I was reluctant to make incremental changes to the form since an API conversion would touch every aspect of it. |
| 14:24 | ashimema | fair enough |
| 14:27 | caroline | ashimema: The only time I've used the button 'Update hold(s)' is when I change the priority using the drop-down instead of the arrows |
| 14:27 | ashimema | interesting.. I can't use the dropdowns.. they're greyed out too |
| 14:28 | caroline | weird... |
| 14:28 | ashimema | do you agree the UX here is just plain weird? |
| 14:28 | or am I just going a little mad | |
| 14:29 | caroline | Kind of, but I'm used to it (I mean, I have to show it at every training and there are much more frustrating things in Koha than this) |
| 14:29 | ashimema | lol |
| 14:29 | fair enough | |
| 14:29 | caroline | I don't see the use of have the drop-downs AND the arrows though |
| 14:30 | ashimema | dropdowns, arrows on the left and arrows on the right you mean ;) |
| 14:30 | maybe 'toggle lowest priority' does something different to 'move to bottom' ? | |
| 14:30 | but if it does.. perhaps it should have a different icon entirely. | |
| 14:31 | caroline | no I get why the arrows on the left and right (the arrown on the right is dangerous, it has to be separated) |
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| 14:31 | clrh | .4 |
| 14:31 | oups hello | |
| 14:31 | caroline | but the drop-down on the left and the arrowns on the left do the same thing afaik |
| 14:32 | ashimema | mmm, |
| 14:32 | * ashimema | doesn't think he has the brains today to update this modal.. the code is too random in here |
| 14:32 | oleonard | Drag-and-drop reordering was on the menu, fwiw |
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| 14:33 | caroline | drago and drop would be nice |
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| 14:51 | ivandz | Hello! |
| 14:54 | I created my own file (API) opac/svc/..pl, but when I do GET to this file, I see always a 500 Internal Server Error. I don't have problems in my log. Why? | |
| 15:07 | tuxayo | ivandz: hi :) which logfile did you check? |
| 15:07 | there are various and the one for the API is separate | |
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| 15:37 | fridolin | Bug 27164 |
| 15:37 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27164 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Fix item search CSV export |
| 15:38 | fridolin | piouf what a mess |
| 15:38 | ivandz: oh opac/svc/ is not a 'real' API | |
| 15:38 | it reguolar perl CGI | |
| 15:38 | check execution permission first | |
| 15:38 | real API il /api/v1/ | |
| 15:39 | you can create new in Koha plugins | |
| 15:46 | caroline | I need a dev's help for documentation... I'm updating this section of the manual https://koha-community.org/man[…]ification-sources which is ... let's say lacking... For the filing rules, Koha's dev's did a great job in the comments ecxplaining what C4/ClassSortRoutine/Dewey.pm and Generic.pm do but LCC is a perl library and I can't figure out what it does |
| 15:48 | Can someone read it and tell me what it does? (like changes to uppercase, removes spaces, etc) | |
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| 16:30 | domm | Can I somehow override / adapt / change cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_field_005.pl |
| 16:30 | like via some plugin system or a config entry? | |
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| 17:04 | domm | ah, I see I can choose a plugin for each MARC21 field in the Tag editor (Administration › MARC frameworks › BKS framework structure › Tag 000 subfield structure › Edit subfields constraints) |
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| 17:12 | tuxayo | Hi again :) If someone using Koha testing docker wants to do an easy signoff (change config and run tests) bug 27055 is for you ;) |
| 17:12 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27055 major, P5 - low, ---, victor, Needs Signoff , Update Firefox version used in Selenium GUI tests |
| 17:14 | tuxayo | Using Firefox 47 for automated test is quite an issue. I'm keen to write more UI tests but this update needs to be done first. |
| 17:14 | ashimema | That's a good one to test |
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| 17:19 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:19 | tuxayo | Good thing I have Jonathan providing QA feedback. Does anyone know who else writes UI tests? So in the future I won't always have to rely on Jonathan for reviews. |
| 17:20 | ashimema | Tomas and I write some |
| 17:21 | I'd encourage more.. | |
| 17:31 | tuxayo | Good news, it will be easier to expand the coverage with two other people that can review |
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| 17:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #138: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]20.05_D9_My8/138/ |
| 17:37 | KotH | good evening! |
| 17:37 | I get a Configuration not defined at /usr/share/perl5/Log/Log4perl/Config.pm line 579. when trying to add an item | |
| 17:38 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D8 build #28: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_20.05_D8/28/ |
| 17:38 | KotH | it seems like config_read() is called with an undefined variable in Log4perl/Config.pm line 147 |
| 17:38 | could it be that the check in said line is wrong: $data = config_read($config) unless defined $data; | |
| 17:38 | this looks very much like it should be "unless defined $config" | |
| 17:40 | see https://pastebin.com/BLdekBze for a stack trace | |
| 17:47 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #82: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/82/ |
| 17:55 | KotH | and the root cause of the problem is a missing <log4perl_conf>/etc/koha/sites/$SITE/log4perl.conf</log4perl_conf> in koha-conf.xml. apparently the debian package adds the log4perl config file but forgets to add it to the global config |
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| 18:41 | AndrewFH | @tuxayo @mtj @Joubu anyone around to look at this Jenkins error I created on my first push as rmaint? |
| 18:41 | huginn | AndrewFH: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 18:41 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
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| 19:09 | tcohen: Bug 26988: (QA follow-up) Unit tests | |
| 19:09 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26988 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to oldstable , Defer loading the hold pickup locations until the dropdown is selected |
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| 19:49 | tuxayo | AndrewFH: unlikely related to your work |
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| 19:51 | tuxayo | «error: index-pack died of signal 15» |
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| 19:53 | tuxayo | AndrewFH: however, for the builds that don't crash, the failure on t/db_dependent/api/v1/holds.t looks legit. |
| 19:54 | AndrewFH | Thanks, @tuxayo, happy I've created an instability rather than a failure :P I'll bug kyle and nick about that issue |
| 19:55 | tuxayo | AndrewFH: That's why the CI is here for ^^ to catch that |
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| 20:15 | tuxayo | > stderr: error: failed to write new configuration file /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_20.05_D8/.git/config.lock |
| 20:15 | Meh, multiple issues | |
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| 23:08 | dcook | Well this is fun: https://blog.centos.org/2020/1[…]is-centos-stream/ |
| 23:08 | Maybe it'll mean more Koha users on Debian/Ubuntu heh | |
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