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| 03:35 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 03:35 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 03:35 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1513: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1513/ |
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| 04:54 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 04:54 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 04:54 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #146: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_D10/146/ |
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| 04:56 | jbpalacio | hi everyone |
| 04:58 | anyone here? | |
| 05:01 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U16 build #9: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_U16/9/ |
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| 06:38 | jbpalacio | Hi can anyone help me. I can't seem to search a book using ISBN but can search using the Title |
| 06:48 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U16 build #21: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_U16/21/ |
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| 07:19 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:19 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
| 07:22 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U16 build #25: STILL FAILING in 3 min 30 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_U16/25/ |
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| 07:33 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 07:45 | Joubu | tuxayo: https://git.koha-community.org[…]-community/global |
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| 07:51 | nlegrand | matin ! |
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| 08:06 | Joubu | mtj: seen 19.05_U16 is getting crazy? |
| 08:06 | wahanui | I haven't seen '19.05_U16', Joubu |
| 08:09 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U16 build #30: ABORTED in 5 min 30 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_U16/30/ |
| 08:09 | Joubu | mtj: I disabled it |
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| 08:25 | * cait | waves |
| 08:25 | cait | good morning good koha people |
| 08:33 | mtj | hi #koha, hi cait |
| 08:33 | hi Joubu, sorry about jenkins... i dont know why it keeps failing | |
| 08:35 | ..the git shallow-clone for Koha_19.05_U16 keeps timing-out | |
| 08:37 | lets leave it disabled :) | |
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| 08:50 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 09:58 | tcohen | morning |
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| 10:05 | Joubu | https://www.comedywildlifephot[…]020_finalists.php |
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| 10:25 | TimothyAlexis | bug 27080 needs discussion |
| 10:25 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27080 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, timothy_alexis.vass, Failed QA , Add --statute-barred option to cleanup_database.pl to purge all fees where the item has been returned and the fee is older than the given number of days. |
| 10:25 | TimothyAlexis | bug 27050 is ready for sign off |
| 10:26 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27050 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, timothy_alexis.vass, Needs Signoff , Allow multiple category_codes in delete_patrons.pl |
| 10:29 | tcohen | those are really cool. Joubu |
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| 10:36 | severine_q | bonjour #koha ! |
| 11:01 | ashimema | second days post available now... it was written in a bit of a hurry this morning: https://koha-community.gitlab.[…]-02-data_storage/ |
| 11:02 | so let me know if you spot any issues.. I missed my editorial step 😉 (thought someone else was writing this mornings one) | |
| 11:03 | Joubu | "lacked any any form" |
| 11:03 | "In yesterdays post" | |
| 11:03 | ashimema | I'm in meetings now |
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| 11:07 | kidclamp | fixed |
| 11:07 | ashimema | thanks :) |
| 11:08 | all a bit rushed today | |
| 11:09 | kidclamp | @later tell ivandz Elasticsearch 6.x should work in 19.11 and forward I believe, for 20.11 I would recommend that |
| 11:09 | huginn | kidclamp: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:21 | tuxayo | Hi #koha o/ |
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| 12:14 | shaffendi | hi guys..need help here.. how do i set koha rebuild zebra on 1pm everyday? i guess koha is automaticly rebuild zebra on every night right? but i need to add 1 more @ 1pm |
| 12:14 | can anyone help? | |
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| 12:33 | tuxayo | Hi shaffendi :) Is there a reason you need a rebuild every day? |
| 12:34 | Having the Zebra indexer running will make the new records indexed immediately if I understand correctly. | |
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| 12:54 | shaffendi | tuxayo really? |
| 12:55 | i thought for example if u finish catalog a book today the record will appear at opac tomorrow? | |
| 12:55 | i mean after cron everynight | |
| 12:55 | am i correct? | |
| 12:59 | Joubu | you need the koha-indexer daemon running |
| 12:59 | then it will index your record after a couple of minutes | |
| 13:00 | tuxayo | shaffendi: if the zebra setup is correct (with the indexer running) it's not needed to wait |
| 13:00 | Indeed, just a few minutes | |
| 13:00 | thanks Joubu I didn't know | |
| 13:00 | shaffendi | could u pls tell me how can i set the koha-indexer running? |
| 13:01 | tuxayo | I think the right documentatio is this one: |
| 13:01 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ckagesIndexDaemon | |
| 13:01 | Joubu | make sure it's not running already: ps aux | grep koha-indexer |
| 13:02 | tuxayo | Yes, the doc says it should be running by default. If you installed Koha via Debian the packages. |
| 13:03 | shaffendi | uthmlib KOHALIB:~$ ps aux | grep koha-indexer uthmlib+ 977 0.0 0.0 18708 196 ? S 21:02 0:00 daemon --name=uthmlib-koha-indexer --errlog=/var/log/koha/uthmlib/indexer-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/uthmlib/indexer.log --output=/var/log/koha/uthmlib/indexer-output.log --pidfiles=/var/run/koha/uthmlib/ --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=uthmlib-koha.uthmlib-koha -- /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -daemon -sleep |
| 13:03 | is this correct? | |
| 13:03 | i mean normal? | |
| 13:04 | Joubu | yes, it's running |
| 13:04 | you shouldn't do anything else | |
| 13:04 | shaffendi | ok thanks!!!!! |
| 13:04 | Joubu | create a new bibliographic record, wait a couple of minute and search for it |
| 13:04 | shaffendi | ok thanks |
| 13:04 | really appreciate it | |
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| 13:06 | cait | actually more seconds than minutes in my experience :) |
| 13:07 | since switching to the indexer | |
| 13:11 | Joubu | yes, but better to tell "couple of minutes" to be sure ;) |
| 13:11 | indeed it should be a matter of few secondes | |
| 13:15 | shaffendi | ok will do. thanks once again for info |
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| 14:00 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 14:00 | tuxayo | hi oleonard |
| 14:00 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 14:05 | caroline | ashimema, were you able to try an fresh install? |
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| 14:07 | ashimema | not yet |
| 14:07 | tcohen | Anyone willing to help with the Koha advent calendar we've started, feel free to /join #koha_advent_20 |
| 14:07 | ashimema | been in meetings all day |
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| 14:33 | tuxayo | Meeting in half an hour! |
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| 14:43 | Joubu | Thanks oleonard! |
| 14:44 | cait1 | ducking into the next meeting now too |
| 15:00 | Joubu | wahanui qa_team is dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo |
| 15:00 | wahanui | ...but qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall ashimema alex_a jajm matts... |
| 15:00 | Joubu | no, wahanui qa_team is dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo |
| 15:00 | wahanui | okay, Joubu. |
| 15:00 | Joubu | no, wahanui qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo |
| 15:00 | wahanui | okay, Joubu. |
| 15:00 | ashimema | sorry, got pulled into another meeting |
| 15:00 | around now | |
| 15:00 | Joubu | no, wahanui rmaints is fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo |
| 15:00 | wahanui | okay, Joubu. |
| 15:01 | Joubu | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 2 December 2020 |
| 15:01 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Dec 2 15:01:25 2020 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 15:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:01 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_2_december_2020' |
| 15:01 | Joubu | #topic Introductions |
| 15:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:01 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 15:01 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 15:02 | fridolin | #info Fridolin Somers, Biblire, France |
| 15:02 | tuxayo | #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France |
| 15:02 | fridolin | ah AndrewFH i was not sure of your nick, hello |
| 15:02 | * AndrewFH | waves |
| 15:02 | fridolin | seen your picture on BW site ;) |
| 15:02 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'your', fridolin |
| 15:02 | Joubu | hey we have the whole RMaints team! |
| 15:03 | AndrewFH | (currently waiting on a librarian to show up to talk about quarantine workflows - sorta semi-present) |
| 15:03 | ashimema | impressive.. can't remember the last time we had the whole team |
| 15:03 | Joubu | #topic Announcements |
| 15:03 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:03 | Joubu | ashimema: the advent calendar maybe? |
| 15:04 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 15:04 | * fridolin | starting RMaint 20.11 gently |
| 15:04 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_2_December_2020 |
| 15:04 | ashimema | #info We have a community advent calendar this year: https://koha-community.gitlab.io/KohaAdvent/ |
| 15:04 | #link https://koha-community.gitlab.io/KohaAdvent/ | |
| 15:04 | caroline | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro, Montréal, Québec (Canada) |
| 15:05 | ashimema | #info Target audience is those who want to start creating plugins, using API's etc |
| 15:05 | Joubu | shouldn't we announce it on the list? |
| 15:05 | fridolin | +1 |
| 15:05 | ashimema | I have ;) |
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| 15:06 | ashimema | did you miss it? |
| 15:06 | Joubu | ho, indeed :) |
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| 15:06 | fridolin | "Happy Advent" email |
| 15:06 | Joubu | yup |
| 15:06 | fridolin | from 01/12 |
| 15:06 | * fridolin | is going to seak what must be set obsolete, 19.05 is in pootle, jenkins ... |
| 15:06 | Joubu | anything else? |
| 15:06 | wahanui | i think anything else is necessarily going to be incremental. |
| 15:06 | fridolin | not sur it is already listed |
| 15:07 | I'd like to point Bug 26991 | |
| 15:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26991 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Add action logs to search engine administration |
| 15:07 | ashimema | can't think of anything |
| 15:07 | fridolin | very usefull for Elastic |
| 15:07 | ashimema | other than perhaps your starting to draft a roadmap for this release? |
| 15:07 | s/release/cycle | |
| 15:07 | Joubu | it's a general meeting fridolin, keep it for the dev meeting tonight |
| 15:07 | #topic Update from the Release Manager | |
| 15:07 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Manager (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:07 | fridolin | ah oki sorry |
| 15:07 | Joubu | 21.05 is out! And Packages are available already. |
| 15:08 | And it is, for sure, the best release ever! | |
| 15:08 | tuxayo | team++ |
| 15:08 | Joubu++ | |
| 15:08 | fridolin | ++ |
| 15:08 | Joubu | Yes, before the next one... |
| 15:08 | tuxayo | mtj++ |
| 15:08 | Joubu | mtj++ |
| 15:08 | definitelly, he did a great job last cycle | |
| 15:08 | the ones before as well ;) | |
| 15:08 | I've sent an email to koha-devel to start building a roadmap for 21.05 | |
| 15:09 | This is an important thing to read! | |
| 15:09 | #info Read the email "start building a roadmap for 21.05" | |
| 15:09 | #link https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ember/046157.html | |
| 15:09 | There is a collaborative pad, feel free to join the existing topics I've listed and to add your own stuffs in it. | |
| 15:09 | Any questions about that? | |
| 15:10 | ok so, you certainly noticed the new git server. Gitea is now the web interface, even if gitweb is still there (to not break links). | |
| 15:10 | Devs will have to adjust their remote URL with: git remote set-url $remote https://git.koha-community.org[…]ommunity/Koha.git | |
| 15:10 | fridolin | yep its super |
| 15:10 | Joubu | #info git server moved, adjust your remote URL! |
| 15:11 | fridolin | we can now easy point to source code line using permalink |
| 15:11 | ashimema | ooh, yes... git server |
| 15:11 | Joubu | The homepage needs a bit of tweaking, let me know if you have any ideas. |
| 15:11 | oleonard | Whoa, I had NOT noticed that yet! |
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| 15:12 | Joubu | then you didn't git pull for week! |
| 15:12 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 15:12 | fridolin | ^^ |
| 15:12 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:12 | tuxayo | hehe |
| 15:12 | fridolin | yo |
| 15:12 | Joubu | Some bugs have been found already, and some important ones that should be fixed for .01 are listed there: https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate |
| 15:12 | oleonard | I mean the new web interface Joubu :) |
| 15:12 | fridolin | i'm still warming up |
| 15:12 | going to seak what must be set obsolete, 19.05 is in pootle, jenkins ... | |
| 15:13 | * ashimema | will be getting going on bugs next week.. this week has been a bit challenging |
| 15:13 | Joubu | we keep the project on jenkins, but we disable them |
| 15:13 | project*s* | |
| 15:13 | fridolin | and what Bugzilla status must be done |
| 15:13 | seen that on jenkins | |
| 15:13 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'that', fridolin |
| 15:13 | fridolin | we must alert poeple to start translating 20.11 |
| 15:14 | thd | #info: Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [addressing death of sometime employer] |
| 15:14 | Joubu | We can keep the 19.05 version on bugzilla, it's helpful to know if some bugs are there |
| 15:14 | tuxayo | +1 |
| 15:14 | fridolin | yep |
| 15:14 | Joubu | fridolin: the translation team has been told to translate ~3w ago |
| 15:14 | fridolin | oki sorry |
| 15:14 | henryb | Sorry I'm late! joubu: is the roadmap just for backend stuff or new features too e.g. the recalls function (bug 19532)? |
| 15:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Recalls for Koha |
| 15:15 | Joubu | fridolin: https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]anban-status=1383 |
| 15:15 | this is the list of actions we triggered after a relased is out | |
| 15:15 | still not everything done | |
| 15:15 | fridolin | oki super |
| 15:15 | henryb | Oh sorry, I missed the topic |
| 15:15 | Joubu | henryb: it's basically the big things you are willing to spend time on them during the next 6 months |
| 15:16 | fridolin | caroline: seen translation job on fr-CA, maybe we should talk how to use it in fr-FR ? |
| 15:16 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'translation', fridolin |
| 15:16 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
| 15:16 | oleonard | You haven't seen much wahanui |
| 15:17 | fridolin | we may discuss this another time |
| 15:17 | henryb | #info Henry Bolshaw, House of Lords Library, UK |
| 15:17 | Joubu | henryb: did I answer your question? |
| 15:17 | henryb | Yes you did. Thanks! |
| 15:17 | Joubu | something else RMaints? |
| 15:18 | #topic KohaCon21 | |
| 15:18 | Topic for #koha is now KohaCon21 (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:18 | Joubu | * Discuss if changes to process are requires because of COVID (Processes for KohaCons) |
| 15:18 | * Start bidding process | |
| 15:19 | any suggestions? | |
| 15:20 | oleonard | New Zealand may have been an outlier in that they were able to offer an in-person component... I wonder if that's true for other places that might want to host? |
| 15:20 | There could still be value in keeping the geographical rotation if that means that the local host can still hold in-person events. | |
| 15:21 | thd | Does anyone on a COVID free island want to host KohaCon again? |
| 15:21 | Joubu | oleonard: You forgot that we will get a vaccine in 1 month and in about 3 months we are back to normal |
| 15:21 | (...) | |
| 15:22 | oleonard | :| |
| 15:22 | tuxayo | hopefully, but that might be optimistic |
| 15:22 | oleonard | That may be true for some countries, I hope! |
| 15:22 | thd | Joubu: Will supply of vaccine be sufficient for back to normal in three months? |
| 15:22 | oleonard | Certainly not here :( |
| 15:22 | Joubu | should we then ask the ML if some people are willing to organise a virtual conf for KohaCon21? |
| 15:23 | or simply announce no KohaCon21? | |
| 15:23 | or postpone to the next meeting (we postponed it 3x already)? | |
| 15:24 | caroline | I talked with my boss and both of us were kinda feeling down that yall couldn't come |
| 15:24 | henryb | Can we ask for proposals and ask whether they want to do virtual and/or virtual + in person? |
| 15:24 | tuxayo | +1 |
| 15:24 | caroline | If we didn't lose our chance to have in person later, I could try and see if we can do a virtual one |
| 15:25 | thd | Presumably, people would want to do an in person conference, but circumstances may prevent that. |
| 15:25 | ashimema | we can certainly try and drum up some interest on the mailing list.. see if anyone is contemplating hosting |
| 15:25 | at the moment I think people just haven't thought about it. | |
| 15:26 | Joubu | can I #action a volunteer? |
| 15:26 | caroline | I can send an email to the ML |
| 15:26 | oleonard | Should we require that KohaCon21 have an online component? I wish we could but I worry that it might prevent some from bidding. |
| 15:26 | Joubu | thanks caroline |
| 15:27 | #action caroline send an email to the ML about KohaCon21 | |
| 15:27 | caroline | I think online should be mandatory now |
| 15:27 | Joubu | yes |
| 15:27 | caroline | even if in person is possible |
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| 15:28 | caroline | even if it's possible to go in person, not everyone can afford to go |
| 15:28 | and it's not like the technology is hard to use | |
| 15:28 | oleonard | Okay yeah I guess if they can't offer online they can just do their own regional conference. |
| 15:28 | Joubu | and we (the community) can help |
| 15:29 | moving on then? | |
| 15:29 | #topic Koha Cookbook Project | |
| 15:29 | Topic for #koha is now Koha Cookbook Project (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:29 | Joubu | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Koha_cookbook_RFC |
| 15:30 | * fridolin | likes cooking ;) |
| 15:30 | cait1 | oh |
| 15:30 | sorry, i almist missed the meeting | |
| 15:30 | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany | |
| 15:30 | Joubu | no, it's the most important part |
| 15:30 | is it your topic? | |
| 15:30 | cait1 | too many other unimportant meetings |
| 15:31 | no it is not - maybe magnuse | |
| 15:31 | but I could contribute some cake recipes :) | |
| 15:31 | Joubu | the history of the meeting page tells you added it |
| 15:31 | fridolin | datas may use Markdown format, it great for conversions |
| 15:31 | caroline | I have a maple syrup dessert I can add too :D |
| 15:31 | cait1 | ok, then I don't remember! spooky. But I think the original idea was born during KohaCon and magnuse had followed up on it |
| 15:31 | Joubu | ok, we need a "meeting manager" next cycle... |
| 15:32 | cait1 | i think what we can do: |
| 15:32 | * liliputech_asu | missed the meeting, got just in time for food ^^ |
| 15:32 | cait1 | do we think it's a great idea? |
| 15:32 | liliputech_asu | cait1: it is! |
| 15:32 | caroline | yass! |
| 15:32 | cait1 | I think so too :) |
| 15:32 | maybe it could be something to tackle after the advent calendar? | |
| 15:32 | Joubu | perfect for December 25th |
| 15:33 | cait1 | and if we want to do it - which form should it take |
| 15:33 | i was more thinking january heh | |
| 15:33 | * liliputech_asu | has prepared a "croziflette" for this evening, yummy! (dish for winter) |
| 15:33 | Joubu | Do we add it to the 21.05 roadmap? |
| 15:33 | (maybe people will read it then) | |
| 15:33 | cait1 | hm good question |
| 15:33 | not sure if i'd tie it to release | |
| 15:34 | or maybe more as a side project? | |
| 15:34 | caroline | Should we name a "Cookbook manager"? |
| 15:34 | Joubu | it's just a list of workgroup |
| 15:34 | people working on the same things at the same time | |
| 15:34 | cait1 | are we mixing up things now? |
| 15:34 | caroline | I'm willing to be on the team |
| 15:34 | oleonard | Should we have pre-defined categories like cookbooks do? (appetizers, breakfast, soups, main dish, etc) and get a minimum number of submissions for each? Or should we have it be all desserts because that's all we want to eat. |
| 15:34 | cait1 | ok, maybe we could agree to have a cookbook meeting? |
| 15:34 | i see lots of great ideas here :) | |
| 15:35 | caroline | Cookbook meeting in January? |
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| 15:35 | cait1 | personally i just have a little too much on my plate (how fitting) to take a leading role rightnow for it |
| 15:35 | and then discuss what we want to use | |
| 15:35 | we could do it with the manual tool for example -a lso gives us easy html and epub | |
| 15:35 | Joubu | so we can elect a leader, someone not around now, magnuse? |
| 15:36 | cait1 | heh |
| 15:36 | i was more thinking caroline or owen | |
| 15:36 | * oleonard | hides |
| 15:36 | caroline | I do have a lot on my plate too, but this is too fun to pass up |
| 15:37 | Joubu | I'm adding it to the roadmap, just to gather a list of people who are willing to work/help on it, ok? |
| 15:37 | caroline | It's like a stress release project |
| 15:38 | cait1 | yep ok |
| 15:38 | for me (roadmap) | |
| 15:38 | Joubu | #action Joubu form a workgroup for the Koha Cookbook Project |
| 15:38 | cait1 | i will sign up for helping/contributing |
| 15:38 | ashimema | om, nom |
| 15:38 | cait1 | but my measurements will be metric! be warned :) |
| 15:38 | Joubu | everything will be metric, ofc |
| 15:38 | what else? | |
| 15:38 | caroline | we can have both :) |
| 15:38 | cookbooks here always have both | |
| 15:39 | oleonard | METRIC??? (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━━┻ |
| 15:39 | ;) | |
| 15:39 | caroline | lol! |
| 15:39 | oleonard | ┬─Metric─┬ノ(ಠ_ಠノ) |
| 15:39 | * cait1 | whispers to Joubu careful... |
| 15:39 | tuxayo | > we can have both |
| 15:39 | IIRK, something crashes on Mars due to that | |
| 15:39 | *crashed | |
| 15:39 | Joubu | I think we can provide easily conversion ;) |
| 15:39 | cait1 | caroline: i think in january i might be able to share the load if you want (probably) |
| 15:40 | and maybe we can get magnus back on it too | |
| 15:40 | thd | recipe sign off requires inclusion of at least metric ;) |
| 15:40 | cait1 | Cooking guildeline :) |
| 15:41 | ok, fun topic, but maybe we should move on | |
| 15:41 | heh | |
| 15:41 | Joubu | I can provide a beer recipe, does it work? |
| 15:41 | fridolin | also inclusing of a bootle of bier for the chef |
| 15:41 | cait1 | caroline: would you be ok with remembering about a meeting in january? |
| 15:41 | caroline | Can we say like jan 14? |
| 15:41 | cait1 | ok for me |
| 15:41 | caroline | Ok I'll set a date and send an email to the ML |
| 15:41 | cait1 | thank you :) |
| 15:41 | Joubu | ok, moving on |
| 15:41 | cait1 | caroline++ |
| 15:41 | Joubu | #topic Actions from last meeting |
| 15:41 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:42 | Joubu | #topic tuxayo: update release maintenance wiki page: when something is not been being backported the status should be switched to "RESOLVED - FIXED" instead of "pushed to $RELEASE" |
| 15:42 | Topic for #koha is now tuxayo: update release maintenance wiki page: when something is not been being backported the status should be switched to "RESOLVED - FIXED" instead of "pushed to $RELEASE" (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:42 | Joubu | it's done! |
| 15:42 | tuxayo | next! |
| 15:42 | Joubu | tuxayo: did you send an email to the RMaints? |
| 15:42 | tuxayo | yes |
| 15:43 | Joubu | sorry, I am forgetting things apparently |
| 15:43 | next action is done as well | |
| 15:43 | #topic cait to add KohaCon21 as topic to next meeting's agenda | |
| 15:43 | Topic for #koha is now cait to add KohaCon21 as topic to next meeting's agenda (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:43 | Joubu | done then |
| 15:44 | anything else you would like to add before the end of the meeting? | |
| 15:44 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 15:44 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 15:44 | Joubu | in 5w |
| 15:44 | On Jan 6th | |
| 15:44 | to prevent next colision with dev meetings | |
| 15:45 | #info Next meeting: 6 January 2021, 20 UTC | |
| 15:45 | no objections? | |
| 15:45 | #endmeeting | |
| 15:45 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 15:45 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Dec 2 15:45:36 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:45 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-12-02-15.01.html | |
| 15:45 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]0-12-02-15.01.txt | |
| 15:45 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]02-15.01.log.html | |
| 15:45 | ashimema | perfec |
| 15:45 | Joubu++ | |
| 15:45 | oleonard | Thanks Joubu! |
| 15:45 | Joubu | thx you all |
| 15:45 | caroline | Joubu++ |
| 15:48 | cait1 | reading back now |
| 15:48 | :) | |
| 15:49 | tuxayo | Joubu++ |
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| 16:18 | fridolin | thanks all |
| 16:18 | found a little bug 27135 | |
| 16:18 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27135 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Viewing local cover images at item level shows a link to upload image at record level |
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| 16:32 | * tuxayo | just realizes that the Koha cookbook is about food, not a metaphor about how to do things in Koha :o |
| 16:33 | caroline | lol! |
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| 17:07 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:38 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 17:38 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 17:38 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #342: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D9/342/ |
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| 17:52 | cait1 | hm where have we hidden the code for koha sandboxes? :) |
| 17:52 | looking for that sample database | |
| 17:52 | can't find it on new git or gitlab? | |
| 17:53 | i think i found it in koha-community/global | |
| 17:53 | maybe could be split out :) | |
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| 18:03 | ashimema | it's not moved yet |
| 18:04 | it's under bywater github (and forked with ptfs-e too) | |
| 18:04 | there is a github issue to migrate it.. but we've not got there yet | |
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| 18:51 | cait1 | all good, was mostly looking for the sample data |
| 18:58 | caroline | Am I missing anything here? I think I covered everything, but just making sure https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]haCon21_Proposals |
| 18:58 | I'm also unsure what to write for the period | |
| 18:58 | cait1 | does the kohacon things page help maybe? |
| 18:59 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]sses_for_KohaCons | |
| 18:59 | caroline | I added that at the top |
| 18:59 | Maybe I could write the elligible continents | |
| 19:00 | cait1 | i believe we left the timing up ot theorganizers |
| 19:00 | as seasons/good times are different on different continents | |
| 19:00 | or whatperiod did youmean? | |
| 19:01 | caroline | when the porposal ends and when we start voting (if there is a vote) |
| 19:01 | cait1 | we are quite late this year with this |
| 19:01 | and we still need to vote... | |
| 19:01 | probably can#t give it that long | |
| 19:01 | caroline | right |
| 19:01 | cait1 | mid january? |
| 19:02 | probably unlikely to have it all decided this year still, but not sure | |
| 19:02 | Joubu: ashimema: tcohen? | |
| 19:02 | * cait1 | is dealing with migration data again |
| 19:02 | cait1 | orders that are received, paid and cancelled at the same time :( |
| 19:02 | caroline | ugh... I feel for you |
| 19:02 | cait1 | i start to really mistrust the systemwe are mgrating from |
| 19:02 | ashimema | Hi |
| 19:02 | wahanui | bidet, ashimema |
| 19:04 | caroline | ashimema: what do you think we give organizations until mid january to propose themselves as hosts for Kohacon 21? |
| 19:04 | we are quite late | |
| 19:04 | ashimema | So Mrs reasonable to me.. |
| 19:05 | Sounds.. even | |
| 19:05 | Grr.. silly phone | |
| 19:05 | rangi | but we need to make it a requirement they have to do a hybrid one |
| 19:05 | i reckon | |
| 19:05 | ashimema | We are indeed very late this year... Been a trying year for all |
| 19:05 | caroline | then there is the voting period... ugh |
| 19:05 | ashimema | I almost wonder if we might end up without any submissions this time.. could be interesting |
| 19:06 | caroline | Yes I wrote it here rangi https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]haCon21_Proposals |
| 19:06 | rangi | cool thanks caroline |
| 19:06 | ashimema | Normally I get a feel for a few people waiting in the wings.. I've not got that at all those year... But maybe I've just taken my eye of the ball |
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| 19:06 | tuxayo | > end up without any submissions |
| 19:06 | Pretty sure there will be at least virtual proposals | |
| 19:07 | caroline | I know Mengu and I were interested, but that was pre-pandemic... |
| 19:08 | cait1 | yeh.... and we wanted all to go and visit you! |
| 19:08 | maybe if we get hybrid ones we should not count for that continent or so | |
| 19:08 | not sure | |
| 19:08 | um online only | |
| 19:08 | long day | |
| 19:10 | caroline | ok so for hybrid format, elligible conteinents are africa, americas (N and S), asia... right? |
| 19:10 | if it's online only, anyone can bid | |
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| 19:13 | tuxayo | I got a question about ClaimReturnedLostValue, is it's disabled, should we say "Claim returned is disabled" or "Return claims are disabled" in the UI? (bug 25583) |
| 19:13 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25583 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , When ClaimReturnedLostValue is not set, the claim returned tab doesn't appear |
| 19:13 | tuxayo | *if it's disabled |
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| 19:37 | liliputech_asu | hi koha |
| 19:37 | (evening more precisely) | |
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| 20:08 | tuxayo | hi, meeting time! |
| 20:08 | anyone to be the chair? | |
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| 20:10 | tuxayo | I can try if there is someone else knowing the commands in case I don't find them. |
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| 20:11 | liliputech_asu | hi tuxayo, don't know the commands unfortunately |
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| 20:13 | tuxayo | Ok I think I have them all from the logs of a previous meeting. |
| 20:14 | caroline | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Chairing_meetings |
| 20:15 | tuxayo | We might be having an attendance issue to having already the general meeting today ^^ |
| 20:15 | caroline++ | |
| 20:15 | So shall I go? | |
| 20:16 | caroline | build it and they will come |
| 20:16 | tuxayo | ok! |
| 20:16 | #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 2 December 2020 | |
| 20:16 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Dec 2 20:16:47 2020 UTC. The chair is tuxayo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 20:16 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 20:16 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 20:16 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_2_december_2020' |
| 20:17 | tuxayo | #topic Introductions |
| 20:17 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 20:17 | tuxayo | #info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France |
| 20:17 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 20:17 | It worked. You built it and I came. | |
| 20:18 | liliputech_asu | #info liliputech/Arthur Suzuki, BibLibre, France |
| 20:18 | tuxayo | he he |
| 20:18 | liliputech_asu | :) |
| 20:18 | oleonard | Any NZers here? rangi alexbuckley ? |
| 20:19 | tuxayo | #topic Announcements |
| 20:19 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 20:19 | tuxayo | Does anyone have something? |
| 20:21 | alexbuckley | #info Alex Buckley, Catalyst IT, Wellington NZ |
| 20:21 | liliputech_asu | hi, during the last camp, christophe croullebois from biblibre has worked on a plugin to emulate an automaton |
| 20:21 | https://github.com/biblibre/ko[…]p-client-emulator | |
| 20:21 | tuxayo | #info during the last camp, christophe croullebois from biblibre has worked on a plugin to emulate an automaton |
| 20:21 | #link https://github.com/biblibre/ko[…]p-client-emulator | |
| 20:22 | This is great! | |
| 20:22 | oleonard | Neat! |
| 20:22 | liliputech_asu | quite still a work in progress, but we managed to get a working SIP request builder frontend within koha, it uses sip-cli-emulator in the background |
| 20:23 | there is another one | |
| 20:23 | tuxayo | amoyano around? (action in the agenda) |
| 20:24 | liliputech_asu | claire hernandez has worked on a plugin to retrieve and display informations from wikidata about a work within koha |
| 20:24 | https://github.com/biblibre/ko[…]lugin-linked-data | |
| 20:24 | tuxayo | #info claire hernandez has worked on a plugin to retrieve and display informations from wikidata about a work within koha |
| 20:25 | #link https://github.com/biblibre/ko[…]lugin-linked-data | |
| 20:25 | more plugins yay :D | |
| 20:25 | #topic Update from the Release manager (21.05) | |
| 20:25 | Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (21.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 20:26 | tuxayo | #info 21.05 roadmap, see email on koha-devel - https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ember/046157.html |
| 20:26 | #info There is a collaborative pad, feel free to join the existing topics I've listed and to add your own stuffs in it. | |
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| 20:27 | tuxayo | Basically, put there you christmas lists ^^ |
| 20:27 | liliputech_asu | oh, then I would love to raise interest on bz 17314 |
| 20:27 | tuxayo | #info git.koha-community.org has been migrated |
| 20:27 | oleonard | bug 17314 |
| 20:27 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17314 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Patch doesn't apply , Routes to create, list and delete a purchase suggestion |
| 20:28 | tuxayo | ok, I note that liliputech_asu |
| 20:28 | #info Devs will have to adjust their remote URL with: git remote set-url $remote | |
| 20:28 | liliputech_asu | (although i still have some work on that one to get it to apply on master) |
| 20:28 | tuxayo | #info git remote set-url https://git.koha-community.org[…]ommunity/Koha.git |
| 20:29 | #info 20.11: Some bugs have been found already, and some important ones that should be fixed for .01 are listed there: https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate | |
| 20:29 | liliputech_asu | thx for the ready-made cmd :) |
| 20:29 | tuxayo | #info Enforcement of the release notes needed before push to help the documentation team |
| 20:29 | #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers | |
| 20:29 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 20:29 | tuxayo | rmaint? |
| 20:29 | wahanui | i heard rmaint was definitely a great job to find all kinds of things to fix and clarify in translations, system requirements, CI among others. |
| 20:30 | tuxayo | rmaints? |
| 20:30 | wahanui | rmaints is fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo |
| 20:30 | tuxayo | #info oldoldstable (19.11): handover done, ready to begin backporting :) |
| 20:32 | #topic Updates from the QA team | |
| 20:32 | Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 20:32 | tuxayo | qa_team? |
| 20:32 | wahanui | qa_team is probably cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo |
| 20:33 | tcohen | hi, sorry I cannot attend! |
| 20:33 | tuxayo | no worries tcohen |
| 20:33 | MarkHofstetter | #help how should I set a calculated value for a controlfield without any user intervention within a framework? |
| 20:34 | oleonard | MarkHofstetter we are in the middle of a meeting at the moment |
| 20:34 | tuxayo | MarkHofstetter: The meeting will be over after a moment, I'll ping you so you could reask your question |
| 20:34 | MarkHofstetter | oh sorry! |
| 20:34 | cait | caroline++ |
| 20:34 | almost missing the second meeting today! | |
| 20:35 | oleonard | Stick around if you can and ask again a little later MarkHofstetter |
| 20:35 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 20:35 | tuxayo | cait: you came at the right moment ^^ |
| 20:35 | lukeG1 | #info Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions |
| 20:36 | cait | i see |
| 20:36 | not so much to report from QA but hte things already said | |
| 20:36 | caroline | MarkHofstetter: start with this perhaps? https://koha-community.org/man[…]t-a-marc-subfield |
| 20:36 | cait | focus will be on the bugs found in the stable release for now |
| 20:36 | and to get everyone new settled in :) | |
| 20:37 | tuxayo | On my side, learning QA right now, quite hard to find bugs which I can QA but doing the analysis is a good way to learn |
| 20:37 | cait | you can always comment that you already tested and leave it if you are unsure |
| 20:37 | liliputech_asu | tuxayo++ |
| 20:37 | cait | that way the work is not lost |
| 20:38 | sign it too | |
| 20:38 | I believe we might have to report more next meeting | |
| 20:38 | tuxayo | cait: thanks, I'll try that when I'll soon finish to check the queue of bugs needing QA |
| 20:39 | ^^ | |
| 20:39 | Anything else about QA? | |
| 20:39 | cait | not from me |
| 20:39 | tuxayo | #topic Actions from last meeting |
| 20:39 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 20:39 | tuxayo | amoyano around? |
| 20:40 | davidnind not here | |
| 20:40 | #action davidnind Find and update relevant places to record Perl version required, including release notes, manual and wiki (one source of the truth) (still working on this - feel free to reallocate) | |
| 20:40 | #action amoyano advertise 15522 and ask the list for feedback [after 20.11 is released], setup a sandbox, etc. | |
| 20:40 | #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) | |
| 20:40 | Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 20:41 | tuxayo | #info liliputech_asu « would love to raise interest on bz 17314» |
| 20:41 | #info Routes to create, list and delete a purchase suggestion | |
| 20:42 | anything else to add liliputech_asu ? | |
| 20:42 | Any topic for someone else? | |
| 20:42 | cait | bug 17314 |
| 20:42 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17314 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Patch doesn't apply , Routes to create, list and delete a purchase suggestion |
| 20:42 | cait | looks like it currnetly needs a rebase - is there open discussion or an issue with it? |
| 20:43 | liliputech_asu | cait: need a bit of work on my side, that one got lost in limbo for too long |
| 20:43 | but have 3 other patch that needs a signoff | |
| 20:44 | ashimema | oop |
| 20:44 | liliputech_asu | bug 20985 |
| 20:44 | ashimema | hi |
| 20:44 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20985 normal, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Needs Signoff , CanBookBeReserved and CanItemBeReserved should check 'On shelf holds allowed' policy |
| 20:44 | liliputech_asu | bug 15261 |
| 20:44 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, arthur.suzuki, Needs Signoff , Verify if checkout or hold request periods overlap with existing holds |
| 20:44 | liliputech_asu | and bug 23011 |
| 20:44 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23011 enhancement, P4, ---, arthur.suzuki, Needs Signoff , AuthenticatePatron could alert if password is not safe |
| 20:45 | liliputech_asu | hi ashimema :) |
| 20:45 | tuxayo | #info other patches highlighted by liliputech_asu: |
| 20:45 | #info 20985 (CanBookBeReserved and CanItemBeReserved should check 'On shelf holds allowed' policy) | |
| 20:45 | #info 15261 (Verify if checkout or hold request periods overlap with existing holds) | |
| 20:46 | #info 23011 (AuthenticatePatron could alert if password is not safe) | |
| 20:46 | #topic Set time of next meeting | |
| 20:46 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 2 December 2020) | |
| 20:47 | tuxayo | That would be the 16th, but I don't know the logic about the time |
| 20:48 | cait | 2 weeks time is right |
| 20:48 | for time I usually struggle a bit too | |
| 20:48 | tuxayo | I would guess if we rotate that it would be 15UTC |
| 20:48 | ashimema | today was 'the late one' so next time should be mid afternoon europe time |
| 20:48 | perfect | |
| 20:48 | sorry I was lacking today.. too many things on the go :( | |
| 20:49 | tuxayo | #info Next meeting: 16 December 2020, 15 UTC |
| 20:49 | ashimema | we have a polished KohaAdvent for tomorrow now though :) |
| 20:49 | liliputech_asu | :) |
| 20:49 | tuxayo | ashimema++ |
| 20:49 | #endmeeting | |
| 20:49 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
| 20:49 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Dec 2 20:49:27 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 20:49 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-12-02-20.16.html | |
| 20:49 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]0-12-02-20.16.txt | |
| 20:49 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]02-20.16.log.html | |
| 20:49 | cait | tuxayo++ |
| 20:49 | liliputech_asu | tuxayo++ |
| 20:49 | ashimema | nice one peeps |
| 20:50 | time for me to clock off again | |
| 20:50 | have a great one | |
| 20:50 | https://koha-community.gitlab.io/KohaAdvent/ | |
| 20:50 | cait | you too :) |
| 20:50 | ashimema | shameless plug ;) |
| 20:50 | oleonard | tuxayo++ |
| 20:50 | tuxayo | Thanks for attending and for the help ^^ |
| 20:51 | caroline | tuxayo: |
| 20:51 | tuxayo++ | |
| 20:51 | liliputech_asu | almost finished rebase on bz 17314 :) |
| 20:51 | tuxayo | MarkHofstetter: what's up? :) |
| 20:52 | Did you find a solution to your problem? | |
| 20:53 | liliputech_asu | can anyone try to apply bug 17314 ? rebase done :) |
| 20:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17314 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Routes to create, list and delete a purchase suggestion |
| 20:53 | caroline | MarkHofstetter: I was wondering what kind of calculated information? In the manual, only date and user are mentioned and I think that's all there is |
| 20:55 | cait | i guess we need more information :) |
| 21:01 | MarkHofstetter | ah thx and sorry again, things like a serial from database for internal numbering |
| 21:02 | tuxayo | MarkHofstetter: no worries, you just came at a moment that required a little wait :) |
| 21:03 | MarkHofstetter | eg controlnumber 001, I see the value_builder plugins but all those need/allow user intervention |
| 21:04 | caroline | afaik I don't think you can save informatino without having the user at least click in the field |
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| 21:04 | caroline | but I may be wrong |
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| 21:05 | MarkHofstetter | you mentioned the user and date, where does thos happen? |
| 21:06 | caroline | in the default value |
| 21:06 | cait may be more apt to answer since she's the one who wrote that part ;) | |
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| 21:07 | cait | sec reading back |
| 21:07 | caroline | about the patterns for default values in the MARC framework |
| 21:07 | like YYYY and USER | |
| 21:08 | cait | i think a way to autopopulate the 001 reliably with no user intervention woudl be very welcomed |
| 21:08 | caroline | do these need the user to click in the field? |
| 21:08 | cait | i had a lot of questions about that from libraries doing local ctaloguing |
| 21:08 | caroline | same here |
| 21:08 | cait | caroline: no, but i think they might only get populated on saving |
| 21:08 | MarkHofstetter | populated on saving would be ok |
| 21:08 | cait | which might be ok in this case, but they are all static values, no sequential numbering |
| 21:09 | we are using a variation of inventorynumberAV.pl in some libraries | |
| 21:09 | it's similar to the newer contolnumber one i tihnk | |
| 21:10 | it gets the next number from an authorised value based counter | |
| 21:10 | but it's always a click | |
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| 21:11 | MarkHofstetter | ok a on-titel-save plugin/plugabilty would be appriciated |
| 21:12 | cait | I'd say so |
| 21:12 | especially if it allowed for sequential numbering :) | |
| 21:12 | MarkHofstetter | yes that would be the point for us as well |
| 21:12 | cait | i htink ther are patches around somewhere to allow use of marc mod templates on saving |
| 21:13 | but that doesn't allow scripts like that | |
| 21:14 | MarkHofstetter | I'll have a look/thought into it, and I'll file a bug? |
| 21:14 | cait | if you look for controlnumber or 001 you already might find some related |
| 21:14 | might be worth linking to them at least to get some additional attention | |
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| 21:15 | cait | bug 23832 |
| 21:15 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23832 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 001 control number auto complet or copy from 999c |
| 21:16 | cait | bug 9921 |
| 21:16 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo.lopez, In Discussion , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber |
| 21:18 | tuxayo-read-only left #koha | |
| 21:18 | cait | i am pretty sure there are others i looked at previously, but not able to spot them right now |
| 21:21 | MarkHofstetter | thx for the advice and the pointers, I'll discuss it with my clients, shall I open a new one to collect all the references |
| 21:23 | cait | yep sure |
| 21:24 | MarkHofstetter | but tomorow :-) - cu |
| 21:32 | cait | caroline: great job on the koha bidding email and page :) |
| 21:32 | caroline | thanks :) |
| 21:33 | cait | still catching up with events, mails and lgos from today |
| 21:33 | sorry i pushed you on the cookbook too! | |
| 21:33 | caroline | it's ok! it's a fun project |
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| 22:19 | dcook | tuxayo: I thought it was a technical cookbook and not a food cookbook too |
| 22:20 | oleonard | Oh it's definitely technical. I heard all the measurements will be METRIC! |
| 22:20 | cait | hehe |
| 22:21 | traumatized? | |
| 22:21 | tuxayo | lol, I though the metric vs imperial thing was a joke |
| 22:23 | cait | are thos cups and spoon thing even imperial? |
| 22:23 | tuxayo | (Due to making no sense on technical Koha cookbook) |
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| 22:24 | tuxayo | «United States tablespoon is approximately 14.8 mL (0.50 US fl oz), a United Kingdom and Canadian tablespoon is exactly 15 mL (0.51 US fl oz),[2] and an Australian tablespoon is 20 mL (0.68 US fl oz).» |
| 22:25 | caroline | lol! just to make it complicated! |
| 22:25 | cait | I tihnk german ones around 20 ml too |
| 22:25 | caroline | but it's not like you have to be precise to the ml |
| 22:28 | But it's still interesting, I think it should go into the notes at the end of the book :) | |
| 22:30 | dcook | lol |
| 22:30 | * dcook | is a fan of metric |
| 22:31 | dcook | Although I still have trouble sometimes wrapping my head around ovens |
| 22:31 | caroline: What temperature measurements are normal in Quebec when cooking? | |
| 22:31 | cait | maybe a dedication to all the americans who have been traumatized in writing the book? :) |
| 22:31 | caroline | Farenheit |
| 22:31 | dcook | When I was a kid in the west, I remember 350-450F was the norm |
| 22:31 | Now I'm all about the 180-200C heh | |
| 22:31 | caroline | haha! |
| 22:32 | dcook | Although I recall the oven had both measures on it |
| 22:32 | My parents latest one is digital but maybe that one is configurable.. | |
| 22:32 | caroline | Like a good canadian, I measure temperature outside in Celsius, Oven and Pool in Farenheit |
| 22:32 | dcook | hehehe |
| 22:32 | <3 | |
| 22:32 | Height in feet/inches and human weight in pounds | |
| 22:32 | But length in metres | |
| 22:32 | I love Canada | |
| 22:32 | caroline | long distances in km, small distances in inches |
| 22:33 | dcook | Yeah that's true |
| 22:33 | cait | werid mix |
| 22:33 | dcook | Very weird mix |
| 22:33 | caroline | I don't think you can understand unless ytou're born in it |
| 22:33 | dcook | So weird that you can only understand it if you've lived it I think |
| 22:33 | hehe | |
| 22:33 | It's stuff like that which will always make me feel Canadian | |
| 22:33 | No matter how long I'm Australian too | |
| 22:33 | Although I love Aussie slang | |
| 22:33 | Arvo > afternoon | |
| 22:34 | No one has time for all those syllables.. | |
| 22:34 | caroline | https://www.reddit.com/r/Hello[…]rement_flowchart/ |
| 22:35 | oleonard | Wow |
| 22:36 | dcook | I love it |
| 22:36 | Australia is much more rigid about metric which is also kind of nice >_> | |
| 22:36 | caroline | It looks complicated, but it's implicit |
| 22:36 | dcook | But then we drive on the wrong side of the road :| |
| 22:36 | caroline: Yeah it's just second nature | |
| 22:37 | Actually, that's also a flowchart for a fairly young person | |
| 22:37 | When I was growing up, my father preferred using F for outdoor temperatures too | |
| 22:37 | Used to drive me crazy | |
| 22:37 | caroline | yes like our age |
| 22:37 | I think Canada switched to metrics in the 70s? | |
| 22:37 | dcook | And technically in the country we sometimes still use miles for long distances.. |
| 22:37 | caroline | so ppl who went to school before then prefer imperial |
| 22:37 | dcook | caroline: I'm not sure but that sounds right |
| 22:38 | In the prairies, a lot of land is segmented by miles, so it just makes more sense to talk miles sometimes | |
| 22:38 | * dcook | notices the Canadians have dominated the chat >_> |
| 22:38 | caroline | represent! |
| 22:38 | dcook | This is how Canada conquers the world. Through polite discussion. hehe. |
| 22:39 | caroline | XD |
| 22:39 | oleonard | Ya big bullies |
| 22:39 | dcook | ^_^ |
| 22:39 | Oh right.. | |
| 22:39 | I kind of hope that Kohacon doesn't go to Canada until I can travel there... *selfish* | |
| 22:39 | I haven't been home in... 2 years | |
| 22:39 | caroline | We're not thinking of doing it until yall can come |
| 22:39 | dcook | <3 |
| 22:40 | I haven't been to Montreal since... 2007 O_O | |
| 22:40 | Want to visit some mates in Toronto.. | |
| 22:40 | Maybe my friend will delay her wedding in Ottawa... ehh | |
| 22:40 | caroline | According to Wikipedia "Metrication in Canada began in 1970 and ceased in 1985." |
| 22:41 | dcook | Oh have to pop into a meeting for a minute |
| 22:42 | caroline | I'll go eat |
| 22:42 | oleonard | I didn't realize it had ceased... I think when I visited Canada it was probably around 1985! |
| 22:43 | caroline | It's just the transition period |
| 22:43 | oleonard | Oh, not aborted like we did it? |
| 22:51 | dcook | Hmm query problems when using () in them except when double quoted. This sounds familiar.. |
| 23:05 | Ah cool "koha-zebra --stop" doesn't seem to work. I forgot about that. | |
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| 23:33 | dcook | Boy do I hate buildQuery... |
| 23:41 | I guess Zebra/YAZ documentation is pretty terrible too.. |
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