IRC log for #koha, 2020-11-27

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00:00 tuxayo It's like no one can SO it. BibLibre can't because they did it. Other french librarians can't because it need commands.
00:00 I can't because I can't get a unimarc env working T_T
00:03 In inself it's not very hard to test.
00:04 The irony.
00:04 That's why I have to get unimarc working on ktd
00:05 liliputech_asu oooooh
00:05 i could go through the installer :)
00:07 its a bit long but it worked, i only checked the mandatory datas, and used english language, maybe french is broken
00:07 (french language is broken btw, not koha-speaking)
00:08 tsss, no gender-neutral pronouns, tsssssss....
00:12 tuxayo french--
00:13 liliputech_asu: you have a working unimarc Koha now???!
00:16 liliputech_asu yep :)
00:17 well, working... didn't test much :]
00:17 but as far as i can tell, i can login, do stuff, and marcflavour is set to unimarc :)
00:18 tuxayo liliputech_asu thank you, I will try that! :D
00:18 liliputech_asu bon courage, la route est longue mais la voie est libre :)
00:20 there must be an english translation of this idioms in english that i don't know, quite like the french version though ^^
00:20 oh, english translation in english... time to sleep maybe?
00:20 :p
00:23 tuxayo yes, time to sleep :P
00:28 * liliputech_asu goes away... 'night koha, see u later aligator!
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03:57 dcook mtj: check out my responses on bug 26893
03:57 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26893 blocker, P5 - low, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , New version of JSON::Validator (D11) breaks our REST API routes
03:57 dcook I thought I was going crazy until I saw the debian changelog..
04:16 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #7: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ter_D10-Common/7/
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04:29 dcook "bon courage, la route est longue mais la voie est libre"
04:29 I like that
04:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Full build #9: STILL UNSTABLE in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D10-Full/9/
04:29 dcook I like that I read it without realizing it was in French too heh
04:29 * dcook needs to practice his language skills though..
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05:30 dcook I love how I did not anticipate the ordering of @INC when using "use lib"
05:30 *dies*
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07:04 fridolin hi there
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07:23 alex_a Bonjour
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07:27 reiveune hello
07:27 wahanui hola, reiveune
07:28 dersmon hi
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07:36 dersmon i got a question, are any french(wo)men here? we have L'énigme de la Vénus de Milo, but searching for énigme does not return any results
07:36 only *énigme
07:36 (using elastic search)
07:38 is this intentional? i would have expected elastic search to consinder l and énigme  as two "words"
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07:42 dersmon ah https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21357
07:42 huginn Bug 21357: normal, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Failed QA , Filter elisions from index and search terms in Elasticsearch
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07:58 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #8: ABORTED in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ter_D10-Common/8/
08:00 Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #9: ABORTED in 2 min 6 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ter_D10-Common/9/
08:01 Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #7: ABORTED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D10-Core/7/
08:01 Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #10: FAILURE in 52 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]er_D10-Common/10/
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08:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
08:48 wahanui Congratulations!
08:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Common build #11: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]er_D10-Common/11/
08:56 Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #9: NOW UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D10-Core/9/
09:04 Yippee, build fixed!
09:04 wahanui Congratulations!
09:04 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Full build #11: FIXED in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ster_D10-Full/11/
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09:06 ashimema cait around?
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09:15 cait1 no?
09:15 wahanui no is that a thing? I was just thinking about how I like all kinds of chips and now I find out that there is a licorice flavor!
09:16 cait1 kind of arund, what's up?
09:17 ashimema I was going to quiz you about string freeze.. but I think we just came up with a way around it
09:19 but to double check our sanity..
09:19 magnuse wahanui: forget no
09:19 wahanui magnuse: I forgot no
09:19 ashimema the removal of a sample notice would hurt translators less than updating the notice now wouldn't it?
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09:30 cait ?
09:30 you mean from the yml?
09:30 or from the updatedatabase or both?
09:32 ashimema all
09:34 i.e. bug 26282 , It's too late in the cycle to 'do it right'. So we want to effectively disable the feature by dropping the sample notices and do it properly for the .01 release, re-introducing the notice and implementing it properly with the requisite string changes.
09:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26282 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Allow staff to decide if a hold cancellation notice will be sent when cancelling a hold
09:34 ashimema see the final patch on that bug for all the places I drop the sample
09:35 then the proper fix will likely be one of the first patches pushed for 20.11.01
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10:30 cait hm ok
10:30 well removing shoudl not be an issue
10:30 as long as it the chang ein line numbers doesn't turn things fuzzy in the xml file
10:31 yml file
10:31 you can check that maybe
10:32 fuzzy  = string didn't change but something else did and it won't be translated
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10:44 tcohen ashimema++
10:44 Joubu++
10:45 happy release, Joubu
10:45 ashimema fancy doing a fast QA on bug 27103 tcohen?
10:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27103 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Adding a hold cancellation reason should not always send a notice
10:46 ashimema I'm confident.. I've tested an fresh install (to check the notice isn't created).. I've tested a upgrade (to ensure the notice isn't added)
10:47 and then i tested a cancellation to ensure the client doesn't crash or anything.. all seems good.. we do get a warning in the logs but I think that's ok for a .00 -> .01 month whilst we do the more involved fix we've been working on together.. which includes string changes
10:54 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #302: FAILURE in 40 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/302/
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10:59 tcohen ashimema I read the chat about it during my morning coffee
10:59 and I think it is the best solution as well
11:00 we still have a few hours for the release so we could push some more big things
11:00 but...
11:00 kidding
11:00 is friday
11:04 ashimema 😂
11:05 Joubu git push pick_random(grep { $_->status eq "Failed QA" } @bugs)
11:05 how many do you want?
11:06 * ashimema drops mic
11:06 tcohen hahaha
11:07 Joubu what music does the RM listen while releasing this awesome Koha version?
11:07 Jazz?
11:08 Joubu https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]LN2RDx6umUOF7fN9e
11:09 * ashimema is on https://youtu.be/aHicMx6_0Lo
11:11 tcohen :-D
11:12 I'm listening to Bad Religion, True North
11:12 can switch to Cachaito
11:31 Joubu eythian: can you confirm this is correct:
11:32 msgid_plural "There are {count} archived suggestions."
11:32 msgstr[1] "Er zijn {count} gearchiveerde suggesties."
11:32 (they translated it without {count}, like "Er zijn gearchiveerde suggesties.")
11:32 eythian It looks correct to me
11:32 I'll get a nativer to double-check
11:32 Joubu thanks
11:33 Do you have Armenian skills as well? :D
11:33 eythian I mean, I can pretend :)
11:40 Joubu: confirmed with a native speaker :)
11:40 Joubu Thanks eythian!
11:40 Anyone with Chinese skills around?
11:42 ashimema: weren't you learning Chinese?
11:44 ashimema haha.. nope
11:44 not I
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11:49 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
11:49 wahanui Congratulations!
11:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10-Core build #11: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ster_D10-Core/11/
11:51 mtj hey #koha
11:53 folks, perhaps we update the core/full package descriptions as 'experimental', until whenever?
11:53 tcohen I'd say we don't need that
11:53 it is not that everyone will jump into using them?
11:54 mtj we have not really had a chance to test them yet, and we dont want people using them for production stuff
11:54 tcohen ok
11:54 Joubu we noted them as "experimental" in the release notes
11:54 tcohen is htis something to put on the release notes? or the package description?
11:55 mtj i'm suggesting we update the description in the d/control files
11:55 ..too :)
11:55 Joubu there is a section in the tech release notes
11:55 yes, both
11:55 mtj yes :)
11:56 people never read the doco (speaking from personal experience here)
11:59 ill send a patch
12:03 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27103: Remove from fr-FR <https://git.koha-community.org[…]867b658c152fd8ec2>
12:03 News from kohagit: Bug 27103: Remove HOLD_CANCELLATION notice <https://git.koha-community.org[…]400fae61bc3adbef3>
12:03 News from kohagit: Bug 25534: Add missing td in tfoot in pendingreserves <https://git.koha-community.org[…]445a1dd15323d9694>
12:03 News from kohagit: Bug 27079: Unit tests <https://git.koha-community.org[…]55ce386ace8165d8c>
12:03 News from kohagit: Bug 27079: Floating point comparison correction <https://git.koha-community.org[…]7f92c60e66deeb82d>
12:13 ashimema :)
12:14 tcohen :-D
12:25 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26672: Add 'experimental' info to koha-core and koha-full descriptions <https://git.koha-community.org[…]2c35a38759f25b161>
12:43 ashimema I'm off out for a quick walk with the dog.. let me know if there's anything outstanding you'd like me to take care of when I'm back Joubu
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12:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #425: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/425/
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13:24 TimothyAlexis delete_patrons.pl now allows multiple --category_code bug 27050
13:24 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27050 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, timothy_alexis.vass, ASSIGNED , Allow multiple category_codes in delete_patrons.pl
13:25 TimothyAlexis Needs Sign Off.
13:26 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #426: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/426/
13:27 caroline cait I have another translation question... I'm translating the MARC framework and I'm wondering what to do with the Obsolete and RLIN fields. They are not used here afaik and I can't find official translation
13:27 Did you translate them for German?
13:27 tuxayo hi #koha :)
13:28 caroline salut tuxayo!
13:29 tuxayo salut!
13:31 caroline I think I translated everything that is on www.marc21.ca (fr-CA version of loc.gov/marc), I'll just leave the rest in English I guess
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14:34 cait caroline: i think not consistently - if it was easy i probably did, but i might just have copied them over
14:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_10 build #1: FAILURE in 9 min 57 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_19.05_10/1/
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14:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U2010 build #58: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]_Master_U2010/58/
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14:58 Joubu mtj: are you playing with Jenkins?
14:58 Or is Jenkins playing alone?
15:01 tuxayo One of the 19.05 builds has started with an SCM change, I didn't push anything :o
15:01 Jenkins is mistaken, there is no new commit on 19.05.x
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15:15 tuxayo > Error:  Can't locate Array/Utils.pm
15:15 Hum, it was added a month ago.
15:23 Joubu tuxayo: not scm change, it's mason "Started by user Mason James"
15:24 at least for 19.05_D8/281
15:33 caroline: https://koha-community.org/man[…]20.11/fr_CA/html/
15:33 it says "Koha 20.11 Manual (en)"
15:33 why (en)?
15:33 caroline probably not translated
15:33 in French it would be Manuel Koha, so Koha Manual is not translated
15:34 translating the manual is unfortunately not a priority (too many other priorities lol!)
15:35 Joubu caroline: it's translated nowhere
15:35 maybe it's the project's name, that's is not translatable
15:35 in that case we should remove the (en)
15:35 caroline I'll check on pootle
15:35 Joubu not important anyway :)
15:36 caroline It's in the strings on Pootle for 20,05 https://translate.koha-communi[…]14573270&offset=0
15:37 but maybe it's not a bad idea to remove it... does it bring new information?
15:43 Joubu will see how it goes translated
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16:00 huginn News from kohagit: Add release notes for Koha 20.11.00 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]1b324c8e4b287ee81>
16:00 News from kohagit: Translation updates for Koha 20.11.00 <https://git.koha-community.org[…]3e566256adab6bef8>
16:00 News from kohagit: Bug 27108: Add 21.05 release team to teams.yaml <https://git.koha-community.org[…]86a4684c602b23e16>
16:00 News from kohagit: Adjust history and contributors list <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ef3adfe7faa1a4160>
16:00 News from kohagit: Koha 20.11.00 is here! <https://git.koha-community.org[…]e7242082e6f7bd38c>
16:00 News from kohagit: Fix some updatedatabase.pl issues <https://git.koha-community.org[…]64e69c96599e80cc6>
16:00 News from kohagit: Fix translation issues <https://git.koha-community.org[…]e1c655523e2ddc1cf>
16:03 tuxayo Joubu++
16:03 confetti!
16:03 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:04 reiveune bye
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16:09 ashimema exciting times :)
16:09 Joubu++
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16:19 tcohen Joubu++
16:19 confetti!
16:19 wahanui o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
16:20 tcohen JOubu++
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16:46 Joubu Thanks you all!
16:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1508: SUCCESS in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1508/
16:46 Joubu It was an exciting one :)
16:50 ashimema right.. time for a beer :)
16:50 have a great weekend Joubu and all
16:50 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D11 build #164: SUCCESS in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/164/
16:51 Project Koha_Master_D10 build #427: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/427/
17:00 Project Koha_Master_D10-Full build #13: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ster_D10-Full/13/
17:18 cait congrats team! confetti!
17:18 sorry, I was so absent
17:19 Joubu++
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17:23 tcohen have a good one, Joubu and ashimema
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17:59 tcohen :-D
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18:13 caroline have a grest weekend #koha!
18:15 tcohen same!
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