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| 00:09 | philor | wahanui: no, everyone is staying home and staying safe |
| 00:09 | wahanui | ...but everyone is headed to the hackfest in Marseille... |
| 00:10 | philor | accept reality! |
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| 03:19 | mtj | hi dcook, ill apply my patchset after yours, re 26672 - ill upload it today |
| 03:19 | dcook | mtj: Sounds good |
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| 07:11 | kohaputti | ashimema, hmm: the "Configure items for purchase" text in English can't be right here https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]udes/pos-menu.inc ? |
| 07:11 | ashimema, it links to settings for debit types | |
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| 07:12 | TimothyAlexis | How can this be solved? |
| 07:12 | at translate.koha-community.org | |
| 07:12 | There are {count} archived suggestions. | |
| 07:12 | ashimema | It makes sense to me kohaputti |
| 07:13 | TimothyAlexis | Critical errors: Python brace placeholders |
| 07:13 | kohaputti | TimothyAlexis, it is false positive |
| 07:13 | ashimema | It used to say something different, but people requested to be changed to the current text |
| 07:13 | kohaputti | TimothyAlexis, we have ignored the message since it is not python code |
| 07:13 | ashimema, but items? I'm thinking the link would take me to some page to setup items that can be sold at the library... | |
| 07:14 | ashimema | You do indeed configure the items for sale from the debit types admin page.. they're just more debit types with the items for sale checkbox ticked |
| 07:14 | kohaputti | oh, then it starts to make sense |
| 07:14 | ashimema | That is the page |
| 07:14 | kohaputti | I have not used this feature |
| 07:14 | ashimema | Feel free to suggest alternative text |
| 07:16 | Mmm, suppose 'items' isn't hugely clear.. it's anything you can sell.. which could include services | |
| 07:16 | kohaputti | would be more intuitive to have a separate page for adding items for sale even if they are using the same db table as debit type codes |
| 07:16 | ashimema | I'd find that really confusing personally |
| 07:17 | You often mix the types across POS and Manual Invoice | |
| 07:17 | So having separate pages displaying the same list is more confusing | |
| 07:18 | kohaputti | ok, now there is just no way of knowing how to add items for sale if you don't read manual |
| 07:18 | ashimema | This feature is like 5 years work with 4 big public libraries contributing to the specification ;) |
| 07:19 | You think it's that unintuitive? | |
| 07:19 | Go to point of sale, click the link to configuring items for sale, click add, check box that clearly says to display it on the point of sale page | |
| 07:19 | Seems fairly clear to me | |
| 07:20 | Maybe I'm too close to it though to be honest | |
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| 07:20 | ashimema | It's easy to know how when you wrote it.. so I'm deffo open to suggestions |
| 07:21 | There is an open bug to add more filters and things to the debit types management page though.. which I think would help | |
| 07:25 | kohaputti | ashimema, you are right it is a bit easier to figure out how to add the items if you come from the POS page, just that when you click the link I wonder how did I end up here, what am I gonna do with debit codes, I wanted to add sales items. |
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| 07:25 | kohaputti | also when you go add debit codes then one might wonder why does this thing ask me to sell a code... |
| 07:25 | "Can be sold?" | |
| 07:26 | ashimema | Fair point, some clearer wording somewhere might help |
| 07:26 | That's the one | |
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| 07:27 | ashimema | I'll have a little ponder, see if I can come up with some clearer wording.. 'Debit types' in general is a bit of a technical term |
| 07:27 | kohaputti | less options would be my solution, no chance for wrong choices |
| 07:27 | and to have less options my solution would be separate pages | |
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| 07:27 | ashimema | 'Items, Services and Charges' |
| 07:28 | Joubu | hi #koha |
| 07:28 | kohaputti | ashimema, maybe list the items and services in another table below? |
| 07:28 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 07:28 | kohaputti | hi :) |
| 07:28 | cait1 | hm not sure, you will want to be able to sell the same item via pos and from the patron account |
| 07:28 | ashimema | But they're a mixed list that often have multiple ticked sets |
| 07:28 | cait1 | but still waking up :) |
| 07:28 | ashimema | Our customers do |
| 07:29 | cait1 | yeah, I think this will be common |
| 07:29 | ashimema | Photocopying is an example.. they often want to allow someone to just used that service and pay straight away (POS).. but sometimes they will allow a regular patron to use credit on their account to pay for photocopies |
| 07:30 | Me too on the waking up front | |
| 07:30 | TimothyAlexis | kohaputti++ |
| 07:30 | ashimema | Dog wants to drag me round the block in a moment too |
| 07:30 | TimothyAlexis | kohaputti++ |
| 07:30 | ops | |
| 07:30 | ashimema++ | |
| 07:31 | oh well, thanks | |
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| 07:31 | ashimema | Lol |
| 07:32 | Joubu | How was going the git fetch this morning? |
| 07:33 | ashimema | Huh |
| 07:35 | DNS SPOOFING DETECTED | |
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| 07:35 | ashimema | did the git move happen |
| 07:35 | cait1 | ashimema: yes |
| 07:36 | Joubu++ | |
| 07:36 | can you all cross fingers for us today? we are having the user meeting | |
| 07:36 | ashimema | oh cool |
| 07:36 | fingers crossed | |
| 07:36 | looking good Joubu | |
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| 07:37 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:29 | ashimema | remind me Joubu... |
| 08:30 | did our git-test passwords get migrated into the new git server or should I be setting up a new account again? | |
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| 08:34 | magnuse | Joubu++ |
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| 08:34 | * magnuse | crosses fingers for cait |
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| 08:43 | Joubu | josef_moravec: around? |
| 08:45 | josef_moravec | Joubu: |
| 08:45 | Joubu: yes | |
| 08:46 | Joubu | josef_moravec: ha, I just sent you an email! |
| 08:48 | josef_moravec | Joubu: I created account on git server using openId |
| 08:48 | ;) | |
| 08:48 | Joubu | ho right, haven't seen it was there! |
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| 09:43 | cait | 207 participants in the user meeting right now :) |
| 09:43 | so ... keep crossing fingers, it appears to work | |
| 09:44 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 09:44 | cait | if someone doesn't mind hte German, all info is here: https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/display/KOHA/Aktuelles |
| 09:49 | magnuse | "never mind the german", famous song by the sex pistols ;-) |
| 09:53 | cait | really? didn't know |
| 09:53 | any good? | |
| 09:55 | magnuse | of course! :-) |
| 09:56 | cait | 213, keeping us busy :) |
| 10:02 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #419: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/419/ |
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| 10:45 | tcohen | morning |
| 10:46 | cait++ | |
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| 11:06 | cait | 213 was the most for now, we held onto about 200 for all of the morning session, now break and continuing at 2pm :) |
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| 11:32 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #156: FAILURE in 2 min 22 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/156/ |
| 11:34 | Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #74: STILL FAILING in 3 min 55 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/74/ | |
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| 11:55 | tuxayo | Hi #koha :) |
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| 12:27 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 12:27 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 12:27 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #157: FIXED in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/157/ |
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| 12:47 | mtj | hi #koha |
| 12:47 | hi tcohen: do you have any preferences about adding koha-core/full to the KTD repo? | |
| 12:48 | tcohen | that's a hard call. I would love to use koha-core and have all the extra services run on their containers. |
| 12:48 | but | |
| 12:49 | we need to test things more similar to what production looks like | |
| 12:49 | so I'd go with koha-full | |
| 12:50 | mtj | there are a few different ways to achieve it |
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| 12:59 | mtj | tcohen: would you like to have a go at it? or me? ^ |
| 12:59 | tcohen | if you can do it now, better |
| 12:59 | I'm trying to look after majors and blockers right now | |
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| 13:02 | mtj | ok, do you prefer koha-full on the master branch still? |
| 13:03 | ..and using the dist/buster dir - or a new dist/buster-full dir, perhaps? | |
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| 13:13 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #75: ABORTED in 1 hr 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/75/ |
| 13:17 | Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #76: STILL FAILING in 4 min 38 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/76/ | |
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| 13:26 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #77: STILL FAILING in 4 min 16 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/77/ |
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| 13:33 | TimothyAlexis | What's the difference between GetOptions('option:s') and GetOptions('option=s') ? |
| 13:36 | Joubu | TimothyAlexis: https://metacpan.org/pod/Getopt::Long#=-type-[-desttype-]-[-repeat-] |
| 13:36 | it's optional with ':' | |
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| 13:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #129: FAILURE in 2 min 28 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_D10/129/ |
| 13:39 | TimothyAlexis | Joubu++ |
| 13:46 | I'm looking at enhancing delete_patrons.pl to accept multiple categories. | |
| 13:46 | It uses the function GetBorrowersToExpunge from Members.pm | |
| 13:46 | Which is also used by tools/cleanborrowers.pl... | |
| 13:46 | wahanui | okay, TimothyAlexis. |
| 13:48 | TimothyAlexis | If I change GetBorrowersToExpunge to accept an array and the SQL to use IN instead of =, it should be fine, am I thinking about it correct? |
| 13:48 | It should then accept 1 or more category codes, so that cleanborrowers.pl can stay the same... | |
| 13:51 | bug 27050 | |
| 13:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27050 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, timothy_alexis.vass, ASSIGNED , Allow multiple category_codes in delete_patrons.pl |
| 13:52 | Joubu | TimothyAlexis: it's the "Options with multiple values" part |
| 13:53 | TimothyAlexis | I understand how to get the options, but then it's used in a function which is also used by another script. |
| 13:54 | If the other script only adds a scalar as the parameter and this one adds an array with a list, that will still work right? | |
| 13:54 | I want to make sure the changes I make still keeps other stuff working. | |
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| 13:55 | Joubu | no, you needs to adjust the other script, to make it pass an arrayref as well |
| 14:00 | TimothyAlexis | So, cleanborrowers.pl is under Component: Tool and delete_borrowers.pl is under Component: Command-line Utilities. |
| 14:01 | And Members.pm is under some other Component I suppose... | |
| 14:02 | How should I manage this at bugs.koha-community.org ? | |
| 14:02 | Joubu | use "command-line utilities" |
| 14:02 | the main change is for the delete_patrons.pl | |
| 14:03 | TimothyAlexis | OK, thank you for the guidance. |
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| 14:13 | ashimema | bug 27079 ready for test and qa |
| 14:13 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27079 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , UpdateFine adds refunds for fines paid off before return |
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| 14:20 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #79: NOW UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/79/ |
| 14:22 | TimothyAlexis | If I change the <select id="borrower_categorycode"...> to accept multiple options, will this be correct? |
| 14:22 | my @borrower_categorycodes = $params->{'borrower_categorycodes'} || q{}; | |
| 14:23 | I'd change it to <select id="borrower_categorycodes" name="borrower_categorycodes" multiple> | |
| 14:25 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:25 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 14:25 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #130: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_D10/130/ |
| 14:25 | tuxayo | hi tcohen :) I was about to test the follow up of bug 26282, I shall wait right? |
| 14:25 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26282 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, ASSIGNED , Allow staff to decide if a hold cancellation notice will be sent when cancelling a hold |
| 14:25 | tcohen | please do |
| 14:26 | I'm just working on unit tests as a QA follow-up | |
| 14:26 | mark it SO when you're done | |
| 14:26 | and, thanks :-D | |
| 14:27 | tuxayo | tcohen: ok great :D |
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| 14:42 | tuxayo | tcohen: "no reason given" should also trigger a notification right? (if checkbox ticked) |
| 14:43 | tcohen | that's not how the code works |
| 14:43 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #136: ABORTED in 1 min 39 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]20.05_D9_My8/136/ |
| 14:43 | tcohen | I think that'd be an extra enhancement |
| 14:44 | Joubu | maybe the checkbox label should be adjusted t |
| 14:44 | then | |
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| 14:52 | tcohen | tuxayo I agree it should send it |
| 14:53 | I'll adjust the tests | |
| 14:54 | Joubu | no it should not |
| 14:54 | that's how the feature was designed | |
| 14:55 | the label however should be more exact (unless we disable the checkbox unless an option is selected) | |
| 15:01 | cait1 | tcohen: Joubu: Bernardo tells me he fixed a problem with translations - for German that's 1300 new strings |
| 15:01 | well words | |
| 15:01 | but maybe something for the list? | |
| 15:01 | it's doable in a day if people want to | |
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| 15:02 | tcohen | great |
| 15:03 | caroline | +1 |
| 15:03 | Joubu | cait1: I am going to send an email |
| 15:04 | cait1 | thank you |
| 15:05 | khall | has something happened to git.koha-community.org? |
| 15:06 | cait1 | heh |
| 15:06 | it moved :) | |
| 15:06 | * khall | hasn't been paying attention |
| 15:06 | cait1 | Joubu: we should switch the logo on the front page for something with better quality, but otherwise it loks really nice first glance |
| 15:06 | khall | the new site looks great! |
| 15:07 | cait1 | i also spotted the statswith some url manipulation |
| 15:07 | Joubu | khall: git remote set-url origin https://git.koha-community.org[…]ommunity/Koha.git |
| 15:07 | if you have issue on git pull | |
| 15:07 | khall | thanks Joubu ! |
| 15:07 | Joubu | cait1: the stats should be at the same place than before |
| 15:09 | cait1: which logo would fit better? | |
| 15:11 | This is the one from the header of k-c.org - https://koha-community.org/fil[…]d-kohabanner3.jpg | |
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| 15:14 | cait1 | i think the ones on the wiki are a bit better sec |
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| 15:15 | cait1 | the green png one would maybe look nice https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]s_and_Explanation |
| 15:15 | Joubu | but background is grey |
| 15:16 | isn't it? | |
| 15:18 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 26672: Add additional koha-core and koha-full files to ./debian <https://git.koha-community.org[…]39e2404daae1c8bc2> |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 27082: uncertainprice.pl does not handle pagination <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d2d48da43f09415e9> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26819: (QA follow-up) Fix branchtransfers.tt <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0a80efa8d1c3b2297> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26819: (QA follow-up) authorized_value should be authorised_value <https://git.koha-community.org[…]c5b9c02b1da40ba9b> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26518: (QA follow-up) Expect warnings, don't supress them <https://git.koha-community.org[…]3dfcd235b81c982a7> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 27070: Add cross_fields type to our searches <https://git.koha-community.org[…]7a3887bdaa034b06f> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 25942: Fix batch report operations for cardnumbers and biblionumbers <https://git.koha-community.org[…]79a68ef32aa36cee5> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 27026: (bug 24159 follow-up) Add a tooltip to explain the values of "Days mode" <https://git.koha-community.org[…]07f32e8a42453757e> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26819: Fix calls to AuthorisedValues.GetDescriptionByKohaField in course-details.tt <https://git.koha-community.org[…]23a281bc3646c599a> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26672: Add koha-core and koha-full definitions to debian/control files <https://git.koha-community.org[…]89f1ecbbf74a29a50> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26518: Move BiblioAutoLink within the transaction <https://git.koha-community.org[…]900fd428b0b1395ad> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26518: Hide expected DBI warnings <https://git.koha-community.org[…]12732e5861da4ac3d> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26518: Raise exception if the insert failed <https://git.koha-community.org[…]2036bb269efd04a46> | |
| 15:18 | News from kohagit: Bug 26518: Use Koha::Biblio[item] in AddBiblio <https://git.koha-community.org[…]becadb2a36176a4be> | |
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| 15:22 | cait1 | Joubu: they are, but we used to have links on top of the git page |
| 15:23 | now you can only find them if you know the URL | |
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| 15:23 | cait1 | Joubu: the koha repo pretends to be a mirror still - Note: This is a synced mirror of the official Koha repo. |
| 15:23 | https://git.koha-community.org[…]ha-community/Koha | |
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| 15:25 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:25 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 15:25 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #80: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/80/ |
| 15:25 | cait1 | bbl - bye all! |
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| 15:28 | Joubu | ha, better, I was going to later tell cait1,2,3 |
| 15:28 | yes we definitely need to adjust the home page, we could discuss it and update it when we are ready | |
| 15:29 | the "note" thing is coming from the .md file. We assumed it was *only* used by github and gitlab. Now that it's displayed on git.k-c.org I don't know what we can do | |
| 15:29 | tcohen | Joubu about bug 26282 |
| 15:29 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26282 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Allow staff to decide if a hold cancellation notice will be sent when cancelling a hold |
| 15:29 | Joubu | we can remove it, but it will get removed from github and gitlab as well |
| 15:30 | however there is a warning in the description of the repo on github I think | |
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| 15:32 | Joubu | bug 27092 |
| 15:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27092 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Remove note about "synced mirror" from the README.md |
| 15:33 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:33 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 15:33 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #137: FIXED in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]20.05_D9_My8/137/ |
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| 15:38 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 27092: Remove note about "synced repo" from README.md <https://git.koha-community.org[…]dcbd9e4b5faa01e27> |
| 15:38 | News from kohagit: Bug 26672: Remove unrequired default-mysql-* references <https://git.koha-community.org[…]0117ac7c9ee13f67f> | |
| 15:39 | cait | i think removing is ok for now |
| 15:39 | and maybe we need to list the different ones if it's used ina lot of places | |
| 15:39 | please note that the repos on gitlab and github... or so | |
| 15:39 | i am gone again, was just finishing up something :) | |
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| 16:09 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #158: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/158/ |
| 16:15 | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #420: SUCCESS in 55 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/420/ | |
| 16:23 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:56 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #421: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/421/ |
| 16:57 | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #159: SUCCESS in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/159/ | |
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| 18:47 | caroline | I'm sorry to ask this again, I'm a bit lost with the yml vs sql for translations |
| 18:47 | is there a wiki page that explains what we should do to translate things that are sql only? | |
| 18:50 | should I remove the installer/data/mysql/fr-CA directory completely? | |
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| 18:54 | cait | maybe you could take a look at the patch Joubu did for de-DE |
| 18:54 | caroline | ah! |
| 18:54 | cait | it's quite recent |
| 18:54 | caroline | I thought you weren't there |
| 18:54 | cait | I am about to go to sleep |
| 18:54 | caroline | I was waiting for your meeting to end to ask you lol! |
| 18:54 | cait | oh! |
| 18:54 | caroline | I'll look for the patch and try to figure it out |
| 18:54 | cait | Joubu wrote it, i only tested |
| 18:54 | buti think it's not hard | |
| 18:55 | the po files should already be on pootle i think | |
| 18:57 | good night all | |
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