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| 03:32 | aleisha | hi |
| 03:32 | wahanui | kia ora, aleisha |
| 03:37 | dcook | allo |
| 04:07 | brandonjj | hi |
| 04:07 | having issues installing a plugin i just packed as KPZ, anyone has run into the same issue? | |
| 04:13 | dcook | brandonjj: Tell me more? |
| 04:13 | I don't think I've had the same problem but maybe I can help | |
| 04:14 | brandonjj: If you unzip your KPZ, the top folder should be "Koha" | |
| 04:14 | Of course, I haven't worked on a plugin sine... June apparently | |
| 04:14 | Actually September.. | |
| 04:15 | brandonjj | sure. I'm fixing a plugin, and after packing it as a zip, renaming it as KPZ, i tried installing it in Koha 20.05 (and i know my install supports plugins, i've already install other versions of the same plugin) it tells me that no plugs are installed |
| 04:21 | and yes the top folder is Koha | |
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| 04:40 | dcook | brandonjj: Have you restarted starman via koha-plack --restart? |
| 04:40 | Oh and you might be looking at the wrong interface.. | |
| 04:40 | I bet that's it.. | |
| 04:41 | Try going to /cgi-bin/koha/plugins/plugins-home.pl | |
| 04:41 | I notice sometimes if I upload a plugin that isn't a "tool" or "report" that it won't show when uploading | |
| 04:42 | brandonjj | that's where i am, and if i install version x of the same plug it installs perfectly, but my version x.1 won't |
| 05:11 | dcook | Hmm not sure |
| 05:12 | That's when you uninstall the old version and install the new one? | |
| 05:13 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #155: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D11/155/ |
| 05:15 | brandonjj | yeap |
| 05:21 | and mine it's the only one with issues | |
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| 07:11 | lds | hi |
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| 07:35 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:56 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 08:21 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 08:24 | magnuse | Oak |
| 08:25 | Oak | magnuse |
| 08:25 | \o/ | |
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| 08:33 | dersmon | hi! quick question: where are the koha-to-marc mappings stored? |
| 08:36 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 11:11 | TimothyAlexis | Hello, |
| 11:11 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26647 | |
| 11:11 | huginn | Bug 26647: trivial, P5 - low, ---, timothy_alexis.vass, Pushed to stable , Add translation context to cancel hold button in OPAC |
| 11:11 | TimothyAlexis | This was working, now it seems that it no longer does. |
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| 11:18 | TimothyAlexis | How does this work? I've looked at it and reach this: Koha/I18N.pm: return _gettext(\&pgettext, [ $msgctxt, $msgid ]); |
| 11:18 | But where is this pgttext function? | |
| 11:19 | I doesn't seem to exist. | |
| 11:26 | tuxayo | hi #koha :) |
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| 11:33 | tuxayo | TimothyAlexis: hi :) , it seems to be an internal subroutine, it's not used outside of i18n files. |
| 11:34 | The doc about use context with translation is there: | |
| 11:34 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]C#More_on_context | |
| 11:35 | TimothyAlexis | tuxayo: What's puzzling is that when I created the patch for 26647, it worked and now it doesn't. |
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| 11:35 | oleonard | In what way does it not work TimothyAlexis? |
| 11:37 | TimothyAlexis | oleonard: It shows the English text 'Cancel' instead of the Swedish 'Ta bort' |
| 11:38 | In 2020-10-12 it worked in my development system. When we released on test, it didn't work there. | |
| 11:38 | This friday, it worked on my development system, today... it doesn't. | |
| 11:38 | last friday* | |
| 11:39 | oleonard | Testing right now in master I see the correct strings in the po file, and the translation works for me |
| 11:40 | tuxayo | TimothyAlexis: Are the .po files still up to date? You likely had to add the translation for 'Cancel', 'my-context' and since friday you worked on something else and restored the .po files? |
| 11:40 | TimothyAlexis | tuxayo: Thank you for pointing that out. Yes, I have repeated the whole process. |
| 11:41 | Editing the .po file manually. | |
| 11:41 | tuxayo | hum, that's puzzling indeed |
| 11:41 | TimothyAlexis | That it doesn't work on our test server is less of an issue. I was worried that when the translation turns up in Pootle, that other's would get the same result. |
| 11:41 | But if oleonard says it's working in master, then that's good. | |
| 11:42 | domm | For a new project, should we go with Zebra or ElasticSearch? |
| 11:42 | TimothyAlexis | Could it somehow be because we are using 20.05.03? It was backported to 20.05.06 |
| 11:42 | domm | and do we need a proper multi-node ES cluster, or is a single-node instance enough? |
| 11:43 | TimothyAlexis | domm: depends on how much data you need to index. |
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| 11:45 | tuxayo | TimothyAlexis: «using 20.05.03? It was backported to 20.05.06» That just requires to manually update the .po files but other that there should be a difference. |
| 11:45 | TimothyAlexis | tuxayo that's what I thought |
| 11:45 | tuxayo | > I have repeated the whole process. |
| 11:45 | Including the command to update the .po files? | |
| 11:46 | And removing the "fuzzy" in the .po files when completing it? | |
| 11:46 | oleonard | It looks like it's working for me in 20.05.x too |
| 11:47 | I tested with fr-FR, and I see the string in fr-FR-messages.po | |
| 11:47 | TimothyAlexis | Removing fuzzy? |
| 11:48 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Section of fr-FR-messages.po" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26227 |
| 11:51 | "tuxayo" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "TimothyAlexis: this is translated but still marked as fuzzy, so not used (it's for asking review and it might be there by default)" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26228 | |
| 11:51 | TimothyAlexis | Ok I understand, thank you. |
| 11:51 | Well, this is what I have in the .po file | |
| 11:52 | #: koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/en/includes/holds-table.inc:1 | |
| 11:52 | msgctxt "Cancel hold button" | |
| 11:52 | msgid "Cancel" | |
| 11:52 | msgstr "Ta bort" | |
| 11:52 | I added that manually | |
| 11:53 | Could we be missing some required package perhaps? | |
| 11:54 | domm | TimothyAlexis: not that much, I guess. I think a few million books at most |
| 11:55 | TimothyAlexis | domm: That's a lot ;) |
| 11:55 | domm | hm, actually I don't know how much books they have, let me check.. |
| 11:56 | TimothyAlexis | I think there should be many who are better suited to guide domm than I am. |
| 11:57 | tuxayo | > a few million books at most |
| 11:57 | The largest library that reports itself to Hea has 3M items so that lot! | |
| 11:57 | https://hea.koha-community.org/ | |
| 11:57 | domm | The thing is, I've quite some experience with ES, and it's using a HTTP API; Zebra I know nothing about, and it seems to communicate via file socket |
| 11:58 | TimothyAlexis | We use ES |
| 11:58 | We have some 2.5 million records. | |
| 11:58 | multi node. | |
| 11:59 | tuxayo | domm: large library, experience with ES, that tends (I'm not experienced in this) to show ES is better suited for you. |
| 12:00 | TimothyAlexis | From what I understand, ES was our only viable option. |
| 12:00 | tuxayo | TimothyAlexis: «missing some required package perhaps?» In that case, other translation using gettext shouldn't be working. |
| 12:00 | > I added that manually | |
| 12:00 | That looks correct but it should be done with `cd misc/translator ; ./translate update da-DK ; cd - ` | |
| 12:01 | Before completing manually the .po . | |
| 12:01 | And ensuring there is no fuzzy tag | |
| 12:02 | > We have some 2.5 million records. | |
| 12:02 | If your library in on Hea, then it's the number one :D | |
| 12:04 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #325: ABORTED in 18 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.05_U18/325/ |
| 12:05 | TimothyAlexis | What's Hea? |
| 12:05 | wahanui | Hea is in there |
| 12:05 | tuxayo | TimothyAlexis: https://hea.koha-community.org/ |
| 12:06 | TimothyAlexis: opt-in stats can be enabled and will be sent there | |
| 12:06 | Here is an overview of some syspref usage: https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences | |
| 12:07 | A map for the libraries that choose to include this data: https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences | |
| 12:07 | TimothyAlexis | oh I see |
| 12:08 | I asked a colleague and he said we turned it off because we were unsure what was being sent. | |
| 12:12 | tuxayo and oleonard, thank for you the assistance so far. | |
| 12:13 | It seems that the pgettext comes from the Locale::Message module | |
| 12:14 | tuxayo | TimothyAlexis: it's not clear but the fields are not required in the /cgi-bin/koha/admin/usage_statistics.pl |
| 12:14 | So the minimum sent will be the subset of the sysprefs and volumetric data. | |
| 12:16 | TimothyAlexis | I need to get some lunch. |
| 12:23 | tuxayo | @later tell TimothyAlexis you're welcome. That still puzzling, do you have another example of such gettext usage and does it work? Enjoy your meal! :) |
| 12:23 | huginn | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:26 | domm | ok, it seems we have 1.2 million records |
| 12:26 | tuxayo | domm: that indeed a lot |
| 12:27 | domm | ok, I've no idea how big libraries usually are; 1.2 million "main" records does not sound that much to me, from a DB dev/admin perpective :-) |
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| 12:28 | domm | but ok, so for that size ES is recommended? |
| 12:29 | We're currently trying to figure out, how and where we're going to run Koha, and the more 'standard' components we can use, the better | |
| 12:29 | And I've never heard of zebra before, is that some custom Koha indexer? | |
| 12:31 | tuxayo | I'm not the best person to know the state of ES and Zebra but IIUC, it's not only for the size but also the relevancy of the results and tuning the searchengine. And facets also. |
| 12:32 | The Koha mailing list would be the right place to search (archives) or/and ask about recommendations. | |
| 12:34 | The paint is still fresh for ES in Koha but more and more libraries and migrating to it. | |
| 12:35 | > is that some custom Koha indexer? | |
| 12:35 | It's an independent indexed but Koha seem to be the main remaining user ^^" | |
| 12:35 | It has very minimal maintenance from it's authors. | |
| 12:35 | There are still bugs fixed so it's not EOL. | |
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| 13:38 | kidclamp | Having worked with it a fair amount now, Zebra is pretty robust and can handle large quantities of records - indexing is slower and more difficult to tweak than ES. ES is the direction we are heading, but expect some changes/development we are still working out hwo to make sure everything works as expected |
| 13:43 | tuxayo | domm ^^^^ |
| 13:44 | thanks kidclamp ! :) | |
| 13:47 | domm | thanks! |
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| 14:13 | tuxayo | @later tell ashimema it turns out the precommit hooks tries to run updatedatabase.pl ^^" |
| 14:13 | huginn | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:17 | Joubu | khall: can you have another look at bug 26819 please? |
| 14:17 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26819 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Error when adding items to course reserves - can't view items in the staff interface |
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| 14:36 | khall | Joubu I'll take a look! |
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| 15:02 | severine_q | hi koha ! |
| 15:04 | tuxayo | o/ severine_q |
| 15:05 | severine_q | hey tuxayo ! what's up ? |
| 15:07 | tuxayo | severine_q: preparing the release of 19.05.17 :) |
| 15:08 | severine_q | nice :) |
| 15:08 | tuxayo | It's the last one for 19.05.x I hope there won't be blocking bugs in the next months ^^" |
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| 15:49 | TimothyAlexis | We want to extend cleanup_database.pl and C4/Accounts.pm with --expired-fees DAYS and purge_expired_fees(), which Component should I choose for the enhancement? |
| 15:49 | Database? | |
| 15:51 | ashimema | probably command line scripts |
| 15:52 | sorry "Command line utiliities" | |
| 15:57 | tuxayo | TimothyAlexis: nice, enhancements to data cleanup are great :) |
| 16:07 | TimothyAlexis | Thank you |
| 16:07 | Well it's a simple enhancement. | |
| 16:22 | Thank you for the encouragement :) | |
| 16:22 | Wish you all a beautiful evening. | |
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| 16:58 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:10 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #327: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D9/327/ |
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| 17:20 | tuxayo | How dare the build fail for the last commit on the 19.05.x branch !? >_< |
| 17:22 | «max virtual memory areas vm.max_map_count [65530] is too low, increase to at least [262144]» | |
| 17:22 | lol | |
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| 17:31 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #104: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]5_D9_MDB10.3/104/ |
| 17:33 | Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #280: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D8/280/ | |
| 17:37 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 17:37 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 17:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #326: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.05_U18/326/ |
| 17:49 | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #328: STILL FAILING in 4 min 19 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D9/328/ | |
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| 17:55 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #329: ABORTED in 51 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D9/329/ |
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| 18:23 | tuxayo | Got a perl question, does anyone know where $class is comming from? |
| 18:23 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]b/Selenium.pm#L48 | |
| 18:23 | It shouldn't be in @_ | |
| 18:24 | As the call to new is without params | |
| 18:24 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ld_to_adult.t#L34 | |
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| 18:30 | Joubu | $class is "t::lib::Selenium" |
| 18:30 | when there is a ->, the first parameter of the constructor will be the package name | |
| 18:37 | tuxayo | Joubu: ok, I got in the wrong lead. I'm trying to know what is the port and addr of Selenium and they come from $class->config |
| 18:38 | No idea where config is from :o | |
| 18:38 | Joubu | ENV |
| 18:39 | sub config | |
| 18:39 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]b/Selenium.pm#L86 | |
| 18:40 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 18:40 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 18:40 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #330: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D9/330/ |
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| 19:48 | tuxayo | Joubu: ok i though it was a variable and didn't search far |
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| 21:23 | cait1 | aleisha: around? |
| 21:25 | i'd like to use your picture here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[…]2157716562512243/ in a presentation about hte new 20.11 features - it would go well with me explaining the new icon for superlibrarians. It's for the German public Koha user meeting on Wednesday | |
| 21:26 | aleisha | hi cait1 |
| 21:26 | go for it ! | |
| 21:26 | cait1 | thx :) |
| 21:26 | i will put your name below | |
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| 22:29 | dcook | Oh no... the Flickr photos remind me how many of us missed going to Kohacon in person :( |
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| 22:30 | dcook | Also rangi looks even taller than usual O_O |
| 22:32 | Also who is in this photo? https://www.flickr.com/photos/[…]@N04/50515362801/ | |
| 22:32 | aleisha: I feel like the fellow on the right side may be one of my doppelgangers heh | |
| 22:33 | caroline | I think that's alexbuckley? |
| 22:34 | dcook | :o |
| 22:35 | One of these days I'll get over to NZ and we'll have to do a side by side comparison | |
| 22:35 | I think he has more hair on his head than I do and I have more on my face | |
| 22:35 | Maybe we could do a face swap with an app.. | |
| 22:35 | caroline | I'm not sure since I've never seen him IRL, but from what I remember from the stream... |
| 22:35 | dcook | I mostly just recognize aleisha from Twitter heh |
| 22:39 | caroline: After a bit of Internet stalking, I've confirmed your proposal | |
| 22:39 | caroline | +1 |
| 22:40 | dcook | I have a bit of a... hobby of finding people who look like me heh |
| 22:40 | caroline | lol! |
| 22:40 | dcook | One time, I thought that Facebook had photoshopped my face onto someone else's body for an advertisement |
| 22:40 | But it turned out that it was someone else and we just looked similar | |
| 22:40 | It was so close that it fooled even myself | |
| 22:40 | caroline | Have you ever found one IRL? |
| 22:41 | dcook | A classmate's boyfriend once although it was a bit of a stretch |
| 22:41 | And there was a guy in the city near where my parents live... I'd see him occasionally in public. Maybe twice. | |
| 22:41 | caroline | I'd be curious to know if the face recognition thing to unlock phones would be fooled (probably_ |
| 22:41 | dcook | Oooh that's a good question |
| 22:41 | I'll add that to my list of tests heh | |
| 22:42 | caroline | I mean, it has a positive bias for white people, so I don't know |
| 22:42 | dcook | It's really common for people to say "Oh you look just like my friend X" too |
| 22:43 | Yeah I haven't looked into facial recognition too much so I'm not sure which points it would use. | |
| 22:43 | lukeG | doppelganger dcook :) |
| 22:44 | dcook | heh |
| 22:44 | Although I don't think I've been clean shaven for about 7 years or so now.. | |
| 22:45 | lukeG: I kept thinking it must be super late for you but I'm guessing just late afternoon? | |
| 22:47 | lukeG | dcook im on the U.S. west coast, its 3:45PM |
| 22:48 | dcook | That was my guesstimate heh |
| 22:48 | I couldn't remember where you were exactly but was fairly sure it was Colorado or westward | |
| 22:49 | lukeG | wow good memory! it is Colorado |
| 22:49 | dcook | Oh nice. I thought maybe I was imaging it heh |
| 22:49 | imagining* | |
| 22:50 | I think that's just one timezone off from my family in Saskatchewan.. | |
| 22:50 | You'd think I would remember the time difference but.. | |
| 22:50 | Or maybe it's the same time zone but they don't observe DST or something.. | |
| 22:50 | time O_O | |
| 22:50 | lukeG | ohh yea, DST makes everything too confusing |
| 22:52 | dcook | Hmm Nov 23 20UTC... that was 52 minutes ago, yeah? |
| 22:53 | Oh wait.. | |
| 22:53 | 2 hours and 52 minutes ago? | |
| 22:53 | caroline | yes two hours I think |
| 22:53 | it is now 22:53 UTC | |
| 22:53 | lukeG | i thought it was 52 minutes ago |
| 22:53 | 53 now | |
| 22:53 | dcook | Yeah.. I wonder if the git move didn't work out so well |
| 22:55 | tuxayo | dcook: postponed to wait for the releases of today |
| 22:56 | and hi o/ ^^ | |
| 22:56 | dcook | hey tuxayo |
| 22:56 | Thanks for the update :D | |
| 22:56 | and Joubu has emailed. Hurray :D | |
| 22:57 | tuxayo | what a timing ^^ |
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| 23:02 | lukeG | Oh sheesh, I didnt read that 2nd email about waiting for us to release! I suppose I better go make a release!!! |
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| 23:06 | tuxayo | lukeG: sorry for the confusion in chat earlier, that's what I tried to says but 2 topic were mixed together ^^" |
| 23:07 | lukeG | tuxayo: its no problem. glad I realized now!!! |
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| 23:18 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_U2010 build #14: FAILURE in 7 min 57 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_20.05_U2010/14/ |
| 23:22 | tuxayo | lukeG: yes, good that there is still time |
| 23:22 | The failure is due to the Docker_3 executor | |
| 23:22 | lukeG | tuxayo++ |
| 23:22 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #126: FAILURE in 4 min 45 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_D10/126/ |
| 23:22 | tuxayo | So don't worry about it. And it has been reported. |
| 23:23 | lukeG | tuxayo: the D10 build fail? Also Docker executor? |
| 23:24 | tuxayo | All builds on this executor will fail |
| 23:24 | lukeG | good to know, thanks |
| 23:24 | tuxayo | Unfortunately there will be other error like that |
| 23:24 | Since the rest of the queue will go to the executor n°3 ^^" | |
| 23:25 | Due to it "finishing" quickly | |
| 23:27 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #130: FAILURE in 4 min 34 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_U16/130/ |
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| 23:31 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #134: FAILURE in 3 min 59 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_U18/134/ |
| 23:37 | Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #72: FAILURE in 5 min 46 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/72/ | |
| 23:39 | Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #131: STILL FAILING in 2 min 13 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_U16/131/ | |
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| 23:42 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #127: STILL FAILING in 2 min 36 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_D10/127/ |
| 23:44 | Project Koha_20.05_U2010 build #15: STILL FAILING in 2 min 30 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_20.05_U2010/15/ | |
| 23:46 | Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #135: STILL FAILING in 2 min 2 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_U18/135/ | |
| 23:49 | Project Koha_20.05_D11 build #73: STILL FAILING in 2 min 43 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D11/73/ | |
| 23:53 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 23:53 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 23:53 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #137: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D9/137/ |
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