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| 00:48 | mtj | hi Joubu, i had a look at "fixing" www/search_utf8.t some days ago using sleep(1), i'll upload the patch |
| 00:49 | i'll take a look at bug 26893 over the next few days, i need to setup a CI for it | |
| 00:49 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26893 blocker, P5 - low, ---, mtj, ASSIGNED , New version of JSON::Validator (D11) break our REST API routes |
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| 01:10 | tuxayo | mtj++ |
| 01:11 | Better sleeping than having to remove the test | |
| 01:27 | mtj | hi tuxayo, im not sure that ive fixed the test... as i cant get it to fail on my test system |
| 01:28 | ..but hopefully it will be pushed, and we can see how it behaves with jenkins | |
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| 02:12 | mtj | hi dcook, i have koha-core and koha-full packages ready to test |
| 02:12 | https://gitlab.com/mjames/ktd-[…]pelines/218230110 | |
| 02:12 | https://gitlab.com/mjames/ktd-[…]pelines/218229728 | |
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| 02:42 | dcook | mtj: Oooh cool |
| 02:45 | mtj | hiya, we need to setup some ktd/jenkins to properly test them, yet :) |
| 02:46 | dcook | mtj: I was just looking for job artifacts... heh |
| 02:46 | Hmm am I seeing rabbitmq on the koha-core-ka pipeline? | |
| 02:47 | https://gitlab.com/mjames/ktd-[…]/-/jobs/859064515 | |
| 02:47 | Oh or is that just for testing? | |
| 02:48 | mtj | just testing, its manually installed and configured |
| 02:48 | apt-get -qy install rabbitmq-server | |
| 02:59 | dcook | :D |
| 03:00 | Hmm so looking at bug 26672 | |
| 03:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26672 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, NEW , Create metapackage to install Koha and all its dependencies |
| 03:00 | dcook | I think that Tomas and co wanted to do things differently to how I've done them there |
| 03:00 | And actually since koha-common still requires rabbitmq-server, koha-core depending on koha-common would install it.. | |
| 03:02 | mtj | currently, koha-core and koha-full dont depend on koha-common |
| 03:03 | dcook | Oh I gues I did include two different patches.. |
| 03:03 | Or is bug 26672 irrelevant? | |
| 03:04 | mtj | my packages are built from here .. -> https://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=p[…]/heads/koha-core7 |
| 03:04 | dcook | Oohhh Joubu's saying git move next Monday. Excitement! |
| 03:04 | mtj | https://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=p[…]9423a5c67e7e82ef5 |
| 03:06 | dcook | Ah coool. Sounds good. |
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| 06:22 | Vihaan | hey can you help me to change the cronjob time of process_message_queue.pl from 15 min. to 1 min |
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| 06:48 | Vihaan | any one ther? |
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| 07:39 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 07:46 | TimothyAlexis | How does the backporting of patches work? Can I backport any patch? |
| 07:46 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 07:47 | TimothyAlexis | magnuse++ |
| 07:47 | Thank you for the code reference yesterday. | |
| 07:47 | magnuse | huh? |
| 07:47 | ah, my pleasure | |
| 07:48 | the rmaints backport the patches they deem necessary, if it is overly difficult, they might ask the patch writer to do a patch specific to "their" version | |
| 07:49 | if there is one you need backported i'm sure the rmaints won't mind if you backport it for them. it is up to them to include it or not, though | |
| 07:49 | at least that is how i would describe things, based on my experience .-) | |
| 07:51 | TimothyAlexis | I added a patch to bug 9565 for master and we have 20.05.03. |
| 07:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9565 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Deleting a biblio should alert/fail if there are existent subscriptions |
| 07:52 | magnuse | as long as it is a bug (not enh), the rmaint should then backport it to 20.05.x and make it part of a future minor version |
| 07:53 | TimothyAlexis | Ok I see, thank you. |
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| 08:29 | cait1 | looks like translate is down agaon |
| 08:29 | and good morning #koha | |
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| 08:31 | Chugeistr | Hi everybody. Is there an IRC channel dedicated to MarcEdit by any chance? |
| 08:32 | cait1 | Chugeistr: sorry, I don't know, have you checked is there is a marcedit room maybe? |
| 08:32 | i think if there is it's probably listed on their website too | |
| 08:37 | Chugeistr | fair enough =) apparently there isn't any. But I've found their mailing list. Thanks. |
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| 08:49 | kohaputti | ashimema, https://translate.koha-community.org/ down |
| 08:53 | works again | |
| 08:53 | ashimema | should be back now |
| 08:53 | kohaputti | thanks :) |
| 08:53 | ashimema | weird.. I think the server may need a bit more maintanence |
| 08:53 | things went wrong badly yesterday for a while and neither of us could ssh into it either | |
| 08:53 | at elast today I could get in to reset apache | |
| 08:53 | kohaputti | restarting apache fixes this? |
| 08:54 | ashimema | yup |
| 08:54 | kohaputti | strange |
| 08:54 | ashimema | it's a bit odd.. I've not worked out why yet |
| 08:55 | kohaputti | do you know if it happens every day or just once a week or randomly? |
| 08:55 | ashimema | not sure to be honest |
| 08:55 | I've not been tracking it all that closely | |
| 08:55 | kohaputti | ok, I have no idea either because I don't use pootle that much |
| 08:56 | ashimema | the system seems very slow today |
| 08:59 | kohaputti | everybody getting prepared for 20.11 |
| 09:00 | ashimema | indeed |
| 09:01 | Joubu | I've tried to ssh few minutes ago but it was not working |
| 09:01 | ashimema | I managed to ssh in |
| 09:01 | but the system feels very sluggish | |
| 09:02 | wierdly though.. nothing stands out in top | |
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| 09:02 | kohaputti | ashimema, how's the ram/swap? |
| 09:02 | did you check dmesg for hw problems | |
| 09:03 | ashimema | total used free shared buff/cache available |
| 09:03 | Mem: 7.8G 2.3G 226M 23M 5.2G 5.1G | |
| 09:03 | Swap: 952M 192M 760M | |
| 09:04 | kohaputti | and enough of disk space? The Koha jenkins server we hosted was sluggish because of one partition getting full. |
| 09:04 | ashimema | ther's a java process running elastic on here.. which surprised me |
| 09:04 | but then I don't know what else the server is really used for | |
| 09:04 | Joubu | it still times out for me |
| 09:04 | * ashimema | sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]mjnlb/message.txt > |
| 09:04 | ashimema | yup.. |
| 09:04 | so all the obvious look OK. | |
| 09:04 | dmesg not really reporting anything either.. a few firewall blocks but not so many that I'd worry | |
| 09:05 | kohaputti | the network could be satured maybe.. lots of possible causes :P |
| 09:05 | ashimema | indeed |
| 09:05 | I am suspecting network.. my ssh terminal is sluggish.. I type something and it take a second or two to actually appear | |
| 09:06 | any and all commands take seconds to respond.. one's I'd normally expect to be pretty much instant | |
| 09:06 | so yeah.. something funky is going on | |
| 09:06 | kohaputti | it is 500ms ping from finland to the server |
| 09:06 | ashimema | I'll ask bernardo to take a more detailed look.. he has a team of ops at the uni who look after it as infrastructure I believe |
| 09:07 | kohaputti | so that will make it definitely sluggish ssh experience |
| 09:08 | ashimema | the server is asking for a restart and update upon login anyway.. that's something I'll defer to bernardo anyway.. bit rude to go ahead and reboot someone elses server.. haha. |
| 09:09 | cait1 | can you check if jobs are running or so? |
| 09:09 | not that we interrupt update processes | |
| 09:10 | ashimema | er.. |
| 09:10 | any idea what this does? */5 * * * * mysql test -e "update fecha set fecha =now();" | |
| 09:10 | seems an odd thing to see in the chron | |
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| 09:14 | Joubu | testing if the mysql server is reachable?..... |
| 09:33 | cait1 | I see new strings on pootle |
| 09:34 | maybe the apache problem is related to updating the po files | |
| 09:34 | or even intentional to wait until finished? | |
| 09:41 | ashimema | not that I can see.. but it might be buried in a script |
| 09:42 | there are three scripts that run one after the other at 0:15, 1:15 and 2:15 respectively | |
| 09:42 | no idea how long any of them take.. wouldn't be at all surprised if they overlap | |
| 09:49 | Joubu | @later tell kidclamp could you have a look at bug 24488 comment 93? |
| 09:49 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:30 | tcohen | bonjour |
| 10:30 | wahanui | hello, tcohen |
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| 10:30 | tcohen | bgkriegel told me he couldn't find the apache problems cause |
| 10:31 | ashimema | interesting |
| 10:31 | tcohen | reboot the server if it is not running any process |
| 10:32 | that server only hosts the communty translation stuff | |
| 10:32 | ashimema | thats good to know, thanks tcohen |
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| 10:36 | Joubu | tcohen: we are experiencing network issues apparently |
| 10:37 | tcohen | it is working now, right? |
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| 10:54 | ashimema | hmm |
| 10:54 | connection times out for me now on translate | |
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| 11:06 | kidclamp | joubu: the cases where libraries have lowest priority greater than 1 seem to be very rare, and usually have reasons (suspended holds, holds in future, missing items) so I think that is the right way forward |
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| 11:12 | Joubu | highest you mean? |
| 11:12 | kidclamp: highest you mean? | |
| 11:12 | kidclamp | semantics, yes |
| 11:13 | Joubu | ok, thanks for the confirmation! |
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| 11:38 | oleonard | o/ |
| 11:40 | tuxayo | hi #koha o/ |
| 12:05 | mtj | hi folks |
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| 12:21 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 12:24 | mtj | Joubu, re 26031, theres only one way to find out if the patch works - push it and see what happens :) |
| 12:24 | oleonard | mtj: So just like every other patch? |
| 12:27 | mtj | oleonard: no, most patches can be tested without being pushed |
| 12:27 | oleonard | I mean, if you don't want to live dangerously. |
| 12:29 | mtj | the failing test has no risk, so it presents no danger :) |
| 12:34 | re 26031, there seems to be only 4 tests that fail randomly - so another option would be to just remove those 4 problematic tests | |
| 12:35 | ..then we can still retain the other 88 reliable tests | |
| 12:40 | tuxayo | +1 |
| 12:58 | Joubu | sleep() in tests always proved it was a bad idea |
| 12:59 | mtj: why do you think it could fix the failing tests? | |
| 13:03 | mtj | Joubu: i thought it was a timing problem, that could be fixed with a sleep |
| 13:04 | but i do see your point about it failing on slower systems, still.. i can offer a better patch | |
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| 13:58 | kidclamp | Joubu: bug 24083 |
| 13:59 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24083 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Pushed to master , Koha should support "seen" vs "unseen" renewals |
| 13:59 | kidclamp | followup added |
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| 14:00 | Joubu | thx kidclamp |
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| 14:15 | ashimema | thanks kidclamp :) |
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| 15:00 | Joubu | @later tell oleonard did you see my comment on bug 26465? |
| 15:00 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:30 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: we've got something already, to work with" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26208 |
| 15:38 | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26209 | |
| 15:54 | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: settled" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26210 | |
| 15:56 | Joubu | tcohen: yes, read better |
| 15:56 | with the comment it's perfect imo | |
| 15:57 | * tcohen | will check what it says if the credentials are wrong, just in case haha |
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| 16:07 | caroline | what's up with the sql/yml files for translation? |
| 16:08 | do we still have to submit language specific sql? | |
| 16:08 | ashimema | "It depends" |
| 16:08 | you shouldn't.. the strings should all now be in pootle | |
| 16:08 | caroline | asking specifically for account_credit_types.sql and account_debit_types.sql which are in installer/data/mysql/mandatory, but are in english |
| 16:08 | ashimema | unless you had some additional customisations that were beyond translations and were 'localisations' instead.. |
| 16:09 | like changing syspref defaults for your locality | |
| 16:09 | they need sql files still | |
| 16:09 | right.. so I those actually don't count | |
| 16:09 | as the user facing strings are not coming from the database for those.. | |
| 16:09 | they're coming from a template include | |
| 16:10 | you, in fact, signed off one of the patches that did that template stuff for translations caroline :) | |
| 16:10 | caroline | ok, so if in debit_types.pl I see them in english, it means my .po file in incomplete |
| 16:10 | ashimema | correct |
| 16:10 | the strings should be coming from /inc/accounts.inc | |
| 16:10 | caroline | ok thanks! |
| 16:10 | ashimema | in both opac and staff |
| 16:11 | :) | |
| 16:11 | hugs | |
| 16:11 | caroline | some people here get insulted if things are in English (historic thing) so I really need to translate stuff asap :) |
| 16:11 | ashimema | I see |
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| 16:11 | ashimema | understandable |
| 16:12 | us english are horrible people :S | |
| 16:12 | caroline | lol! |
| 16:12 | tuxayo | ^^ |
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| 16:13 | caroline | its a thing in canada unfortunatelym the anglophones don't like the francophones (esp. quebec fracophones) and francophones don't lkike the anglophones |
| 16:13 | historically the two people have always been opposed (since colonization, but even before in europe i guess) | |
| 16:22 | ashimema | any of the cait (s) around |
| 16:26 | tuxayo | caroline: that's a sad story :( |
| 16:27 | hm, git bz suddenly asks for a ton of perl deps even though nothing perl related or git bz was updated | |
| 16:27 | It even asks for Search/Elasticsearch.pm when I'm just doing an apply :o | |
| 16:29 | ashimema | er.. that's weird |
| 16:31 | tuxayo | Can't locate C4/Output.pm |
| 16:32 | ok now it asks for a Koha thing | |
| 16:32 | ashimema | did perl5lib go awol somehow? |
| 16:32 | tuxayo | wut |
| 16:32 | I always used git-bz in the host system | |
| 16:33 | ashimema | it's weird that git-bz is the issue |
| 16:33 | git-bz is python | |
| 16:33 | tuxayo | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at about.pl |
| 16:34 | it's like it's trying to execute the patched file :o | |
| 16:35 | ashimema: I know! | |
| 16:35 | ashimema | that is very strange |
| 16:35 | tuxayo | It might be the pre apply hook |
| 16:35 | ashimema | hmm |
| 16:35 | tuxayo | I enabled it yesterday |
| 16:35 | ashimema | could be |
| 16:36 | that would make some sense | |
| 16:36 | * ashimema | doesn't have a pre-apply hook |
| 16:38 | tuxayo | «The pre-commit hook can also be useful as a pre-applypatch hook to catch issues with others bugs when applying via either `git am` or `git bz`. » |
| 16:38 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ks#pre-applypatch | |
| 16:38 | ashimema | interesting |
| 16:38 | I had never noticed the line about pre-applypatch on tips and tricks | |
| 16:38 | haha | |
| 16:38 | I re-worked the pre-commit hook a fair bit a while ago | |
| 16:39 | wouldn't be surprised if I broke it. | |
| 16:39 | well.. broke it for pre-applypatch | |
| 16:41 | tuxayo | Indeed the same code works as a pre-commit hook |
| 16:42 | ashimema | interesting |
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| 16:50 | tuxayo | ashimema: shall I remove the section or add a warning? «Currently broken when applying bug 27044 for example. Needs adaptation.» |
| 16:50 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=27044 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Deprecate core support for PayPal payments |
| 16:52 | ashimema | Huh |
| 16:52 | Does it only not work on that one..m wonder why | |
| 16:53 | I'm not sure I understand how it works.. I should remind myself what states got is in at the time preapplypatch runs | |
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| 17:09 | tuxayo | ashimema: «does it only now work with that one?» I just tried with two and the other one worked |
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| 18:35 | tcohen | is using alt="description" translatable in Koha? |
| 18:35 | aria-friendly even? | |
| 18:43 | caroline | has anyone noticed if bulkmarcimport is slower in 20.05 va 19.05? |
| 18:43 | I started an import of 136000 records yesterday (!!) and it's still running... I don't remember it ever being this long before | |
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| 19:34 | tuxayo | > aria-friendly even? |
| 19:34 | Pretty sure that yes. It's one the of most told things about accessibility | |
| 19:34 | For the screen reader use case at least. | |
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| 21:39 | ashimema | we noticed bulkmarcimport has got slower with recent releases caroline |
| 21:40 | * ashimema | slinks off to bed |
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