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| 00:13 | dcook_ | tcohen: still awake? |
| 00:14 | Oh wow it's only 9pm there... I had no idea | |
| 00:28 | dcook | Wow, it looks like aqplan.pl has been broken for 4 years and no one has noticed... |
| 00:29 | But that can't be right. It seems like people have been working on it since then.. | |
| 00:30 | Although maybe that work was just to silence legitimate warnings.. | |
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| 01:49 | dcook | Wow yeah aqplan.pl is like... getting worse and worse all the time... |
| 01:54 | Bug 26496 | |
| 01:54 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26496 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Budget Plan save button doesn't save plans |
| 01:54 | dcook | Bug 26495 |
| 01:54 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26495 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Impossible to save Budget Plans |
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| 06:32 | * andreashm | waves |
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| 06:34 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:36 | * cait | waves at andreashm |
| 06:36 | cait | bbl! |
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| 06:51 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 06:54 | andreashm | salut |
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| 07:14 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 07:37 | ashimema[m] | mornin' #koha |
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| 08:06 | andreashm | I finally got around to add a RFC for improvement of the account view: |
| 08:06 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Account_view_RFC | |
| 08:06 | for ashimema[m] cait fridolin and other who might be interested. =) | |
| 08:07 | others... | |
| 08:07 | wahanui | others are certainly enhancements that can be in followups |
| 08:25 | cait | andreashm: back on Koha? :) |
| 08:25 | ashimema[m] | :) |
| 08:26 | andreashm | cait: afraid not, just taking care of my backlog. =) |
| 08:27 | ashimema[m] | I'll take a look some time today, thanks :) |
| 08:28 | andreashm | *thumbs up* |
| 08:28 | ashimema[m]: did you ever look at rocket.chat btw? We use it at the national library. works pretty well. | |
| 08:29 | ashimema[m] | I did |
| 08:29 | but it doesn't do bridging to IRC well at all :( | |
| 08:29 | andreashm | dang |
| 08:29 | ashimema[m] | and I didn't think we could get the whole community to up ship and jump to an entirely diffrent platform all in one go :( |
| 08:30 | andreashm | mattermost might be an option then. but don't know if it integrates/bridges to irc either |
| 08:30 | ashimema[m] | I'm all out of idea's really.. I would love ot see us adopt a more modern chat medium.. but I can't see a route to doing it... |
| 08:31 | mettermost is similar I believe.. irc isn't a priority for these guys.. allot of the problem is irc has a fair bit of spammer prevention built in these days and that often kills bridges | |
| 08:32 | if you have any idea's or anyone with expertise to give it a try do feel free.. I'd love to see it happen | |
| 08:36 | * andreashm | too, but haven't looked at that myself. |
| 08:36 | nlegrand | A guten! |
| 08:37 | andreashm | https://github.com/sometoby/rocketchat-irc-bridge |
| 08:41 | this looks interesting too: https://laptrinhx.com/bridge-b[…]equired-91155893/ | |
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| 08:59 | magnuse | i'd say if the bridging is too difficult, let's not let that stop us :-) |
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| 09:15 | jajm | andreashm, ashimema[m], we use rocket.chat at biblibre, IMO it's really not that great compared to irc: lots of non essential features that clutter the interface or make it slow, no real keyboard navigation support so a mouse is mandatory, discussions are splitted in threads or "sub-channels" which sometimes makes it hard to follow conversations, ... we switched to Rocket 6 months ago, and the irc channel has |
| 09:16 | still more activity than the rocket one (old habits die hard) | |
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| 09:31 | cait | we are using Element/Riot now... after some difficulties in the beginning it's appears pretty stable now - no idea if it would bridge to IRC in any way |
| 09:31 | i still have my trusty IRC client too :) | |
| 09:31 | jajm: did you see my later? | |
| 09:32 | TimothyAlexis | Hello |
| 09:32 | wahanui | hola, TimothyAlexis |
| 09:33 | jajm | cait, yes :) |
| 09:34 | cait, let me know if you find a bug, or have ideas for enhancements ;) | |
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| 09:35 | TimothyAlexis | I think bug 26266 is ready to be tested. |
| 09:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26266 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, timothy_alexis.vass, Needs Signoff , Add jQuery validator to opac-password-recovery.tt |
| 09:39 | cait | jajm: the only thing I have been wondering about is if i can turn a subtask into a bug somehow... but not sure that's possible |
| 09:40 | you can add subtasks to a task and then turn them into tasks when youstart working on it which keeps the list a bit tidier - but i think then they can't be bugs | |
| 09:40 | overall it's pretty awesome and works like a treat :) i love the status check | |
| 09:41 | jajm | cait, i think it's a limitation of kanboard itself, not the plugin, but we don't use subtaks so i'm not sure |
| 09:44 | cait | yeah, that makes sense |
| 09:45 | but was not sure if i missed something as I am still new to the tool | |
| 09:45 | are you using it at biblibre? | |
| 09:46 | jajm | yes |
| 10:00 | ashimema[m] | I've used riot/element for years here |
| 10:01 | The reliability of the free public servers is variable | |
| 10:01 | But generally I like it | |
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| 10:05 | ashimema[m] | though I'm not sure it's all that more 'modern' to pick up new users |
| 10:08 | cait | ashimema[m]: then ahndling with screenshots and the like is nice |
| 10:08 | our server is self-hosted by one of our cooperation partners | |
| 10:08 | bbl :) | |
| 10:22 | ashimema[m] | indeed |
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| 10:25 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 10:33 | magnuse | hi oleonard and alexbuckley |
| 10:39 | alexbuckley | hey magnuse :) |
| 10:40 | oleonard | Isn't it past your bedtime alexbuckley? |
| 10:50 | alexbuckley | hey oleonard heh yeah very nearly just doing an out of hours task atm |
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| 11:41 | lmstrand | hi all! |
| 11:42 | I posted a patch for my bug, and it needs to be updated. | |
| 11:42 | can I replace the old one somehow? | |
| 11:42 | TimothyAlexis | lmstrand attach a new one with git bz and the old one will be obsoleted |
| 11:45 | lmstrand | git bz...oh boy, seems like a lot of work. I'm a git noob. |
| 11:45 | oleonard | Did you attach the patch originally via Bugzilla? |
| 11:45 | lmstrand | yes |
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| 11:46 | oleonard | In the list of attachments on the Bugzilla page, click "Detail" next to the patch you want to obsolete. |
| 11:46 | Then "edit details," then check the "obsolete" checkbox. | |
| 11:47 | lmstrand | ok thanks |
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| 11:49 | oleonard | lmstrand: If you're going to be in the habit of submitting patches, git-bz is definitely worth learning |
| 11:49 | TimothyAlexis | lmstrand it's very simple and I would agree that it's worth learning. |
| 11:50 | lmstrand | guess I could take a look at it. :) |
| 11:56 | magnuse | once you have it set up it will save you work |
| 11:56 | and if you use kohadevbox or koha-docker-testing (gah, i forget the name), they help you set it up :-) | |
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| 12:06 | lmstrand | I was told this about my patch: Ideally, it would be great if it could work in koha-testing-docker |
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| 12:07 | lmstrand | does it mean that in koha-testing-docker by just applying the patch the new feature should work? |
| 12:07 | cait | what bugs is this about? :) |
| 12:07 | lmstrand | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25965 |
| 12:07 | huginn | Bug 25965: new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Create SIP2 client daemon with HTTPS API endpoint |
| 12:10 | lmstrand | I also have no idea how to build a test for this... |
| 12:24 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:29 | oleonard | Hi tcohen |
| 12:36 | tcohen | lmstrand there are several tests examples in t/db_dependent/api/v1 |
| 12:37 | I recommend that you mock the sip-specific calls | |
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| 12:41 | cait | lmstrand: i think making it work out of the box for koah-testing-docker is "nice to have" but not a requirement for your work to go in |
| 12:41 | tcohen: do you agree? | |
| 12:42 | referring to that comment here: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=25965#c10 | |
| 12:42 | huginn | Bug 25965: new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Create SIP2 client daemon with HTTPS API endpoint |
| 12:43 | tcohen | there's something I have doubts about regarding that dev |
| 12:43 | 1. Not everyone wants to run a SIP server (i.e. should it be added to the API regardless?) | |
| 12:43 | 2. I've seen setups in which several SIP servers are run with different configurations | |
| 12:44 | that said, I'd go with a tiny Mojo::Lite app instead of baking it into Koha | |
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| 12:45 | tcohen | I'm not trying to be negative, I really like the approach |
| 12:45 | but I'm wondering what design could allow us to handle those use cases | |
| 12:46 | maybe we have a route outside /api, like /sip/<configuration alias> | |
| 12:46 | which allows exposing different setups | |
| 12:46 | and can be enabled/disabled administratively | |
| 12:47 | ok, my two cents | |
| 12:47 | cait | hm usually the sip conf xml file is used - identified by the user etc. |
| 12:47 | woudl this not work here too? | |
| 12:47 | lmstrand | hmmm |
| 12:47 | cait | or is this totally independent from the existing sip codeß |
| 12:47 | ? | |
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| 12:50 | lmstrand | you mean the SIPconfig.xml file? Well if the SIPconfig.xnl file could be parsed easily, why not. The one I have (some age old version, not sure it has changed here in the community version) is bad xml and Can't be parsedd with tools like LibXml |
| 12:50 | I thought about it tho. | |
| 12:51 | tcohen | on designing koha-docker |
| 12:51 | we made it so you can run several SIP servers | |
| 12:51 | anyway | |
| 12:51 | just my two cents | |
| 12:51 | food for thought | |
| 12:51 | I'm not on the SIP side | |
| 12:51 | we need khall | |
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| 12:55 | lmstrand | well this implemention lets you talk to several sip servers. Just add them in config and the messages get relayed to the ip:port in the config file. This is like a separate thing outside the sip server setup and SIPconfig.xml. Only thing you need is the login id:s from SIPconfig.xml to match the ones in my separate config file. |
| 12:56 | But the need for the rest api endpoint makes it impossible to build this one into a plugin. | |
| 12:56 | tcohen | so this is a SIP proxy |
| 12:57 | lmstrand | more or less |
| 12:57 | tcohen | this is the perfect fit for a plugin, actually |
| 12:57 | and yes, we can inject 'contribute' routes through plugins | |
| 12:57 | lmstrand | oh? |
| 12:57 | wahanui | oh are there instructions? |
| 12:57 | tcohen | :-D |
| 12:57 | lmstrand | nice then. |
| 12:58 | tcohen | lookins for a straightforward example |
| 12:59 | https://gitlab.com/thekesoluti[…]a-plugin-innreach | |
| 12:59 | lmstrand | adding a new route...that requires all kids of plack restarts etc wouldn't it? |
| 12:59 | *kinds | |
| 12:59 | tcohen | after you install the plugin, you need to restart plack, yes |
| 13:00 | or wait until the workers respawn themselves | |
| 13:01 | is that an issue? | |
| 13:01 | lmstrand | no... |
| 13:04 | I'm just thinking, with this system the need for tunneling and VPN stuff would become obsolete in the future when talking to a sip server. Shouldn't it still be merged into the Koha, or baking it in. | |
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| 13:04 | lmstrand | It's not overly difficult to make this one into a plugin tho. |
| 13:05 | tcohen | the problem is SIP clients don't talk HTTP don't they? |
| 13:05 | lmstrand | I've studied the basic of thgem already |
| 13:05 | tcohen | I'd suggest the simpler route of writing a plugin |
| 13:05 | lmstrand | no, the module uses sockets to talk to the sip server |
| 13:06 | after it parses the necessary stuff from inside the XML the endpoint receives | |
| 13:06 | tcohen | that's totally something a route controller can do |
| 13:07 | lmstrand | Let's see if I can make sense on how to inject an endpoint to the rest api in a plugin. |
| 13:08 | I wonder if that plugin you posted work on my dev container | |
| 13:08 | We're a bit behind with our koha version I assume. | |
| 13:09 | And it's development has gotten kinda out of hand and I guess it does not have much in common with the community version | |
| 13:09 | here in koha Finland | |
| 13:10 | cait | i think koha suomi is quite different, but always glad to see people around contributing still |
| 13:13 | tcohen | lmstrand that plugin requires 19.11 |
| 13:13 | https://gitlab.com/thekesoluti[…]/koha-plugin-gobi | |
| 13:13 | this is simpler | |
| 13:13 | injecting routes was introduced on 18.11 | |
| 13:14 | but there's been some bugs and enhancements you wouldn't want to miss | |
| 13:14 | lmstrand | my version: 17.06.00.001 |
| 13:16 | tcohen | that's not even a stable version |
| 13:16 | he | |
| 13:16 | cait | I think that's due to the local dev |
| 13:16 | lmstrand | yeah, doesn't tell the whole story |
| 13:17 | I do have plugin manager here tho | |
| 13:17 | cait | it's been extended a lot in recent releases |
| 13:17 | the plugin functionality | |
| 13:17 | tcohen | that's easily backported, though |
| 13:18 | lmstrand | ok |
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| 14:17 | oleonard | henryb++ |
| 14:19 | cait | henryb++ :) |
| 14:21 | hm i just got a question about "how to close/stop a standing order" - i'd say reopen, remove standing order and cancel open order... but is that th eright way? | |
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| 14:23 | lukeG | morning Koha! |
| 14:24 | cait here? | |
| 14:24 | cait | yes |
| 14:25 | lukeG | Hi cait! If we get Bug 23420 in is there even any need to still have the sys pref AllowPurchaseSuggestionBranchChoice |
| 14:25 | ? | |
| 14:25 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Failed QA , Add "SuggestionsUnwantedFields" to hide fields from the suggestions form |
| 14:25 | cait | no, I think we should remove and replace with yoru new feature |
| 14:26 | we can use the current setting for setting the UnwantedFields and then delet eit | |
| 14:26 | sorry if it was not clear | |
| 14:26 | lukeG | cait: Should I remove it with a follow-up to Bug 23420, or as a new seperate bug? |
| 14:26 | cait | otherwise i think the prefs will be in conflict and that could be confusing |
| 14:26 | i think it could go on the same bug | |
| 14:26 | lukeG | Got it! Thanks |
| 14:27 | cait | does it make sense to you? |
| 14:27 | lukeG | Yes |
| 14:27 | cait | ok :) |
| 14:27 | lukeG | I will remove the syspref with a follow-up |
| 14:29 | cait | lukeG: you missed it i think, but i was wondering what yu recomment for closing a standing order |
| 14:29 | at the moment i am at edit basket, remove standing, close basket and cancel last open order... but not sure if that's the best way | |
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| 15:12 | oleonard | Could I have a data inconsistency which would cause this error from the data inconsistency check script? Can't call method "get_column" on an undefined value at search_for_data_inconsistencies.pl line 157. |
| 15:22 | ashimema[m] | usually means you've forgotten to run the dbic schema build |
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| 15:38 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:51 | oleonard | Why did I think I could make a nice quick change to request.pl |
| 15:58 | ashimema[m] | hahahahha |
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| 16:13 | cait | oleonard-away: because you are an optimist? :) |
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| 17:09 | oleonard | I guess so. I got mad that Bug 7703 still exists so I'm taking another crack at it. |
| 17:09 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7703 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Don't block bulk hold action on search results if some items can't be placed on hold |
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| 19:03 | * oleonard | gave up |
| 19:05 | tcohen | ashimema[m] do you have ideas on how a bulk processing route could behave? |
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| 19:05 | tcohen | return data structure, specifically |
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| 19:40 | ivandz | hi all |
| 19:42 | Why do I see one variable when creating an index, but after creating the index name is different? Thank. | |
| 19:42 | Readonly our $ BIBLIOS_INDEX => 'biblios'; | |
| 19:42 | Readonly our $ AUTHORITIES_INDEX => 'authorities'; | |
| 19:43 | cait | ivandz: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:44 | ivandz | indexing |
| 19:44 | wahanui | somebody said indexing was only for bib records and items |
| 19:44 | ivandz | but name of index isn't biblios |
| 19:44 | koha_same_text_biblios | |
| 19:44 | why? | |
| 19:45 | cait | ivandz: I am sorry, I am not sure still what you are trying to do |
| 19:45 | oleonard: can you take a look at bug 25941? missing the first patch | |
| 19:45 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25941 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Reindent Upload local cover image page |
| 19:47 | ivandz | cait, _do_reindex($callback, $Koha::SearchEngine::Elasticsearch::BIBLIOS_INDEX); Does the actual reindexing. $callback is a function that always returns the next record. |
| 19:48 | cait, $Koha::SearchEngine::Elasticsearch::BIBLIOS_INDEX = 'biblios' | |
| 19:48 | cait | I think i might be the wrong person for this one |
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| 19:50 | ivandz | after the reindex I see a name of index that does not equal 'biblios' |
| 19:57 | kathryn | kia ora :) |
| 20:05 | davidnind | hi kathryn! |
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| 20:08 | * cait | waves |
| 20:10 | kathryn | hi davidnind, hi cait :) |
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