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| 02:04 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 02:04 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 06:12 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 06:21 | * cait | waves |
| 06:21 | cait | marcelr: i didn't want us to forget about it after Joubu pushed - no time this week to patch it myself (yml files) |
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| 06:21 | marcelr | hi cait++ |
| 06:22 | yeah i do it today | |
| 06:24 | cait | thx :) |
| 06:27 | ... office day today - bbl | |
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| 06:30 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 06:38 | ashimema[m] | ? |
| 06:42 | marcelr | hi alex_a and ashimema[m] |
| 06:43 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 06:48 | ashimema[m] | ils-di is also an option Patrick.. but I'd say SIP2 is the most well used/well supported. |
| 06:49 | we should do OAuth2 really | |
| 06:49 | but don't yet support that | |
| 06:51 | * ashimema[m] | wishes they're chosen more different names for OATH and OAuth.. they're too easy to muddle up |
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| 07:16 | cait | back |
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| 07:57 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 26384: (QA follow-up) Fix two exceptions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d5163f13e2d4c39ee> |
| 07:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 26007: (QA follow-up) Fix English yml file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0222ad0af6057a7f0> | |
| 07:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 26384: Fix executable flags <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a10ee9a4a7137c6f4> | |
| 07:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 26384: Add test to catch for missing or extra execution flags <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f381d2ca3be28e1e8> | |
| 07:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 26401: Remove xt/fix-old-fsf-address* <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aad25b1b7e1fd2a51> | |
| 07:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 26394: Update .mailmap <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d4bab83955a3c8a18> | |
| 07:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 26365: Remove comparison with 0000-00-00 for datecancellationprinted <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6c08cefc02e788acc> | |
| 08:11 | * ashimema[m] | roles up sleaves ready to dive into the mojolicious app patch.. it looks very self contained so I think I'm happy with it as a stepping stone.. I'd love to see it as a slow move towards no longer emulating CGI, but I think that's a long way off :( |
| 08:21 | Joubu | ashimema[m]: yes, please! :) |
| 08:21 | ashimema[m] | It's been on my list for like a year.. finally getting through the list! |
| 08:21 | woop, woop | |
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| 08:33 | marcelr | what is this: sub ModZebrations { return _common_config($_[1],'serverinfo'); } ??? |
| 08:33 | in C4/Context | |
| 08:34 | seems to be unused ? | |
| 08:36 | the ElasticSearch code in Koha/SearchEngine does not really make me look forward to moving away from Zebra yet.. | |
| 08:40 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1427: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1427/ |
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| 08:57 | ashimema[m] | am I reading this right.. so te Mojo patch is bascially running Mojo app that's emulating CGI undef in psgi mode.. LOL |
| 08:57 | kinda makes sense considering what we're trying to achieve.. but such layers of of obfuscation do scare me | |
| 08:58 | marcelr | yeah ashimema[m] but we already do such things too for Plack and CGI |
| 08:58 | real PSGI is still far | |
| 09:07 | ashimema[m] | indeed |
| 09:07 | layer upon layer of emulation | |
| 09:09 | I'm kinda trying to understand why we'd want to run via mojo though now.. | |
| 09:10 | so.. at the moment a fairly standard configuration is two plack apps running.. right.. one with opac (and opac api) and a second with intranet (and intranet api).. both basically running compiled cgi apps. | |
| 09:11 | with the mojo version we'd still be running two plack apps, but this time it's a plack app running a mojo app running a compiled cgi app | |
| 09:11 | does it actually help us move towards writing routes directly in mojo or anything like that.. | |
| 09:11 | think those questions need to go to jajm.. I'm struggling with the high level vision | |
| 09:12 | Joubu | I will be mostly afk for the next 2 weeks. Bye #koha :) |
| 09:12 | ashimema[m] | have a great break Joubu |
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| 09:15 | marcelr | bye Joubu |
| 09:16 | ashimema[m]: at some point we need to make a choice or well never pass the crossroad | |
| 09:17 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #347: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/347/ |
| 09:20 | jajm | ashimema[m], you can also run directly the mojo apps without plack/starman, but that's a detail really. I think that if we want to drop CGI emulation, it will be easier with a framework that provides everything needed, and we already use mojo for the api |
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| 09:27 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #83: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D11/83/ |
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| 09:41 | cait | oh. now i missed Joubu :( |
| 09:43 | ashimema[m] | sounds sane jajm |
| 09:43 | DO you have any form a plan in your head of what enxt steps after this might be? | |
| 09:44 | marcelr | thx jajm++ |
| 09:44 | ashimema[m] | i.e have you investigated any form of migrations paths from emulated cgi controllers to actual mojo controllers? |
| 09:44 | I'm wondering how that might look... | |
| 09:45 | cait | marcelr: you are supposed still to run zebra and elastic in parallel |
| 09:45 | as default | |
| 09:45 | that's why it inserts into zebraqueue | |
| 09:45 | jajm | ashimema[m], kind of... the big issue will be making authentication work within mojo controllers |
| 09:45 | ashimema[m] | We recommend against running under cgi at the moment don't we (I still run my dev env under it usually, but that's just habbit).. I bet there are some out there still running that way |
| 09:45 | our auth is horrible as it stands | |
| 09:45 | hmm | |
| 09:45 | cait | there is a feature now that allows for z39.50 etc. but it's still pretty new |
| 09:46 | marcelr | ok cait i forgot about that |
| 09:46 | ashimema[m] | for ES running we're not going to run Zebra at all at ptfs-e |
| 09:46 | marcelr | it is a shame that we still do btw |
| 09:46 | ashimema[m] | our aim is to use the z3950 broker that talks to ES |
| 09:46 | there should cetanily be an option to fully disable zebra including the queue | |
| 09:48 | ||
| 09:50 | jajm | ashimema[m], once we have authentication working, we can rewrite cgi scripts into mojo controller one by one, but that would mean making use of mojo app mandatory (otherwise we would have to maintain both the cgi script and the mojo controller) |
| 09:51 | ashimema[m] | mmm, indeed. |
| 09:51 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U16 build #63: SUCCESS in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U16/63/ |
| 09:52 | ashimema[m] | though.. you can run mojo as a plack app (as we do here I think).. so for those already running under plack it could be seamless, at least to begin with |
| 09:52 | can't remember if you can run mojo under cgi | |
| 09:54 | hmm.. you can indeed run mojo as a cgi app | |
| 09:54 | not at all recommended | |
| 09:55 | but possible | |
| 09:55 | * ashimema[m] | wrote a plugable Authentication and Authorization module for Mojo once already.. I bet I could port it to Koha to replace Auth.pm when running under Mojo |
| 09:57 | jajm | ashimema[m], do you have a link ? |
| 09:57 | ashimema[m] | it's three year old code |
| 09:57 | but it's here: https://gitlab.com/mrenvoize/r[…]Authentication.pm | |
| 09:58 | jajm | it looks like it is a private repo : i get a 404 |
| 09:59 | ashimema[m] | ack |
| 09:59 | for the authorization side I contributed to https://metacpan.org/pod/Mojol[…]in::Authorization | |
| 10:00 | and the Authentication side was along the same lines as https://metacpan.org/pod/Mojol[…]n::Authentication | |
| 10:01 | We supported JWT, Cookie, Shibboleth, LDAP and OAuth2 | |
| 10:01 | oh.. and http basic | |
| 10:01 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 10:01 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 10:01 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #409: FIXED in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/409/ |
| 10:02 | ashimema[m] | I'll dig around a bit.. clean it up a little and submit something.. |
| 10:02 | but first.. I'll finish QAing your Mojo patch.. it's so self contained that it's a no brainer to me | |
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| 10:45 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 10:53 | tcohen | morning |
| 10:56 | ashimema[m] | PQA jajm.. wish I'd looked at this in detail earlier.. it's so self contained it's a no brainer to get it in... it's the next step of getting Auth working to allow us to write mojo centric controllers which is going to be more invasive/difficult. |
| 11:02 | tcohen | hola jajm ashimema[m] |
| 11:02 | I'm really excited to see that dev in | |
| 11:02 | ashimema[m] | hi tcohen |
| 11:03 | It's a great stepping stone.. but I fear the next stone will be more of a boulder to manipulate into place ;) | |
| 11:03 | but.. we can get there I'm sure | |
| 11:03 | and it gives us an excuse to take a fresh approach to Authentication/Authorization code | |
| 11:05 | cait around? | |
| 11:05 | I'm trying to understand your comment on bug 26268 | |
| 11:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Remove items.paidfor once and for all |
| 11:06 | ashimema[m] | My query is.. how would you actually get data into the db field at all and where would it be displayed? |
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| 11:27 | cait | kind of around |
| 11:27 | if you had mapped it to 952$x it just stored the internal note | |
| 11:28 | displaying in your item information as is now itemnotes_nonpublic | |
| 11:28 | it was like that for ages | |
| 11:28 | we didn't have items.itemnotes_nonpublic and at some point someone mapped the default to paidfor | |
| 11:29 | i am not sure why this happened, but it was standard for quite a qhile | |
| 11:29 | and we couldn't easily fix that, it was a manual process we did for our libraires, i am pretty sure there are others out there | |
| 11:29 | who haven't figured that out | |
| 11:32 | ashimema[m] | so can we not migrate the data in paidfor to itemsnotes_nonpublic? |
| 11:32 | cait | 13023 |
| 11:32 | ashimema[m] | if that's the case |
| 11:32 | cait | basically.... people can have used it for anything |
| 11:32 | ashimema[m] | bug 13032 |
| 11:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Command line switch to add page breaks to overdue_notices.pl sent to the library |
| 11:32 | cait | hm typo |
| 11:32 | bug 13023 | |
| 11:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13023 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, CLOSED FIXED, Nonpublic note for items should be mapped to a database column like itemnotes |
| 11:33 | cait | I think all we need to do is check if there is content and leave it be if it is |
| 11:33 | print an ote | |
| 11:33 | note | |
| 11:33 | people might have used it for anything - because you can map whatever you want to it | |
| 11:33 | i know that at least in UNIMARC remapping the fields was quite common | |
| 11:33 | and to make it worse.. for a while we shipped a now "wrong" mapping | |
| 11:34 | ashimema[m] | but do I need to prevent the removal of the paidfor field if there's a mapping found and there's data in the field then |
| 11:34 | ok.. so for most people it would be removed | |
| 11:34 | basically.. I want to strongly discourage it existing.. else I'll find myself doing this for the fourth time and I don't want to do that same work yet again ;) | |
| 11:35 | cait | is there any issues to be expected with an extra unused column in old dbs? |
| 11:35 | we have plenty of those i think | |
| 11:35 | ashimema[m] | not that I can think of |
| 11:36 | cait | i mean we should try to drop it and checking for mappings and actual data is the best way i think |
| 11:36 | but if there is doubt... better not to delete people's data | |
| 11:38 | jajm | ashimema[m], thanks for the QA, i'll start thinking about how we could best add authentication/authorization, let me know if you start working on it |
| 11:40 | ashimema[m], also thanks for the followup | |
| 11:40 | ashimema[m] | no worries |
| 11:40 | sorry it's taken me this long to get to it in my queue | |
| 11:40 | forever a loosing battle on that front | |
| 11:43 | cait | aren't we all? :( |
| 11:43 | there is so many things I'd really like to look at, but .... | |
| 11:54 | ashimema[m] | bug 26268 back in the QA queue |
| 11:54 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Remove items.paidfor once and for all |
| 11:54 | * oleonard | always worries that "once and for all" tempts fate a little too much |
| 11:54 | ashimema[m] | lol |
| 11:55 | hmmm | |
| 11:55 | to dig into bug 24975 or not to dig into bug 24975... that is the question | |
| 11:55 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24975 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , Refactor database translations |
| 11:55 | ashimema[m] | seems it's your day today jajm :) |
| 11:57 | jajm | great :) i really need some help on that one |
| 11:57 | * ashimema[m] | is currently rebasing it |
| 11:57 | ashimema[m] | then will have more of a go of wrapping my head around it |
| 11:58 | why are translations so hard aye | |
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| 12:16 | cait | ashimema[m]: at lleast you can talk in your language ;) |
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| 13:01 | Eileen | My supervisor wants me to generate a report of all items I've cataloged since I started here a year ago. How do I do that? |
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| 13:02 | TimothyAlexis | We are upgrading from 19.05 to 20.05 |
| 13:02 | "You are missing the <lockdir> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. Please add it, pointing to your Koha instance's lock dir." | |
| 13:03 | "You are missing the <tmp_path> entry in your koha-conf.xml file. Please add it, pointing to the configured temporary directory for your Koha instance. The effective temporary directory is '/tmp'." | |
| 13:03 | Eileen | I don't understand. |
| 13:03 | I don't know what you're talking about. | |
| 13:03 | TimothyAlexis | This is from the /cgi-bin/koha/about.pl |
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| 13:04 | Eileen | I don't have much tech background. |
| 13:04 | TimothyAlexis | It seems to run fine without. |
| 13:04 | Eileen | I just want to know how to generate a specific report. |
| 13:12 | tcohen | TimothyAlexis you should set those |
| 13:12 | tmp_path can be problematic | |
| 13:13 | depending on how is systemd configured to handle tmp dir | |
| 13:14 | TimothyAlexis | tcohen Would 19.05 complain if these were present in koha-conf.xml? |
| 13:16 | tcohen | no |
| 13:18 | TimothyAlexis | so, can we just create 2 folders and use those? |
| 13:22 | <lockdir>/var/lock/koha/__KOHASITE__</lockdir> | |
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| 13:23 | TimothyAlexis | Can we use <tmp_path>/var/tmp</tmp_path> ? |
| 13:27 | We're running a clustered setup for Koha with 2 servers. So we're wondering... | |
| 13:27 | Do you have any documentation on what the tmp and lock dirs are actually used for? We may or may not run into problems with koha-1 and koha-2 having separate tmp/lock dirs (since they're separate machines). | |
| 13:30 | tcohen | systemd put some constraints on the required permissions for services using tmp dirs. So they need to be owned by the running processes |
| 13:30 | so the idea is you have a per-instance lockdir and tmp dir | |
| 13:31 | the lockdir was introduced by a patchset that added locking capabilities to scripts | |
| 13:31 | mainly so no concurrent process_message_queue.pl runs happen | |
| 13:31 | we needed a lockfile and it made sense to generate it in a configurable place | |
| 13:32 | on hte other hand, if a config entry doesn't exist in a Koha version, it means it is not used in the codebase | |
| 13:32 | and then adding to the koha-conf.xml file shouldn't make any harm | |
| 13:32 | TimothyAlexis | OK |
| 13:33 | we're not using the instance mechanism. | |
| 13:34 | So we could use /var/lock/koha and I suppose /tmp. | |
| 13:35 | Is process_message_queue.pl the only thing using lockdir? | |
| 13:41 | tcohen | TimothyAlexis I made a mistake, it was fines.pl :-d |
| 13:42 | and /tmp is the main problem | |
| 13:42 | you should point to /var/tmp/koha | |
| 13:42 | and make sure the dir belongs to the user running the service | |
| 13:42 | that's it | |
| 13:42 | TimothyAlexis | We're not using privatetmpdir |
| 13:42 | It's turned off | |
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| 13:43 | TimothyAlexis | We'll set it to /tmp/koha :) |
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| 13:44 | TimothyAlexis | Are <lockdir> and <tmp_path> top level nodes or do they need to be inside some other tag? |
| 13:46 | We're assuming, under <config> | |
| 13:47 | ivandz | Hi all. Maybe somebody know where is a file mapping for ElasticSearch ? (which path/folder) Thanks! |
| 13:48 | Hi all. Maybe somebody knows where is a file mapping for ElasticSearch ? (which path/folder) Thanks! | |
| 13:49 | TimothyAlexis | Thank you tcohen for the help! :) |
| 13:49 | tcohen | TimothyAlexis top level under <config> |
| 13:54 | TimothyAlexis | We couldn't have figured this out without you, so again, thanks. |
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| 14:02 | tcohen | TimothyAlexis cool, will be around a few more hours if you need smth else |
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| 14:23 | fridolin | strangest bug ever OO Bug 26434 |
| 14:23 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26434 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Plugin dirs duplicates in @INC with plack |
| 14:23 | oleonard | jajm++ |
| 14:25 | fridolin | ivandz: should be in admin/searchengine/elasticsearch/mappings.yaml |
| 14:25 | unless defined in koha-conf.xml | |
| 14:28 | tcohen | jajm about to submit the patch for Makefile.PL (SMTP servers) |
| 14:28 | I found some things don't work as expected with Makefile.PL | |
| 14:28 | ivandz | fridolin, Thanks! |
| 14:42 | jajm | tcohen, thanks for the patch. what doesn't work with Makefile.PL ? you will submit a new bug report ? |
| 14:42 | tcohen | I will |
| 14:42 | I had hard time finding out how to make the --smtp-debug option switch work as I suspected it should | |
| 14:43 | nad the problem was I was doing the same --use-memcached does | |
| 14:43 | its a 1 vs 'yes' thing | |
| 14:43 | I don't think people uses option swithces | |
| 14:58 | lukeG | oleonard++ |
| 14:58 | thank you for Bug 26431, I love it | |
| 14:58 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Use split button to offer choice of WYSIWYG or code editor for news |
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| 15:12 | cait | lukeG: still around? |
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| 15:16 | lukeG | cait yes |
| 15:17 | cait | ah |
| 15:17 | can you please reconsider bug 25129 | |
| 15:17 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to master , Update German (de-DE) web installer files for 20.05 |
| 15:17 | cait | it was especially written for 20.05 |
| 15:17 | similar for bug 25448 | |
| 15:17 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25448 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to master , Update German (de-DE) framework files |
| 15:18 | cait | the first makes sure someone installing 20.05 has translated instalelr files |
| 15:18 | lukeG | I will defenitly backport it! |
| 15:18 | cait | and the other brings the german frameworks up to date with the english ones again |
| 15:18 | i just did them too late and then they got lost int he SO queue sadly | |
| 15:18 | thx :) | |
| 15:19 | i didn't mark them as a bug... but they could be - it's a bit of a definition question i guess. Things are not broken... but incomplete/untranslated | |
| 15:19 | so I guess they can be bugs | |
| 15:19 | lukeG | sorry i skipped it! |
| 15:20 | cait | all good, they were marked enh - i should just file them as bug in future :) |
| 15:20 | time for the weekend - cya later all :) | |
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| 16:05 | tuxayo | «i didn't mark them as a bug... but they could be - it's a bit of a definition question i guess. Things are not broken... but incomplete/untranslated» |
| 16:05 | Could as bug IMHO | |
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| 17:49 | oleonard | Is it just me or is Bugzilla running really really slow? |
| 17:55 | kidclamp | you are not alone oleonard |
| 17:55 | oleonard | Not with you by my side kidclamp! |
| 17:56 | kidclamp | Clamp and the Leopard! (coming soon to Fox) |
| 18:09 | * oleonard | spends the rest of his work day dream-casting Clamp and the Leopard |
| 18:09 | kidclamp | Chris Hemsworth and George Clooney as us? |
| 18:12 | oleonard | Wow Clooney and I are exactly the same height |
| 18:12 | Perfect. | |
| 18:12 | wahanui | perfect is, like, the enemy... (of what I forgot) |
| 18:12 | oleonard | I picture him as taller than me. |
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