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05:49 | TimothyAlexis | Is it possible in Koha to get statistics on how much a service is used? Such as visits to opac-serial-issues.pl for example |
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06:38 | reiveune | hello |
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06:58 | alex_a | Bonjour |
06:58 | wahanui | niihau, alex_a |
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07:01 | cait1 | good morning #koha |
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07:24 | magnuse | \o/ |
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10:30 | oleonard | o/ |
10:44 | magnuse | \o |
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10:52 | cait | hm general question |
10:52 | i have started working on unifying the way the material type information is displayed in staff vs opac result list | |
10:53 | can I assume that we cant it to look the same between opac and staff? | |
10:53 | so far what i have found is that we display more icons in opac than in staff | |
10:53 | my goal would be to use the same include file for staff and opac in hte end | |
10:53 | so that we can keep them from diverging easier because oyu can compare and copy them around | |
10:54 | oleonard | @quote get 123 |
10:54 | huginn | oleonard: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
10:54 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
10:54 | cait | ohoh |
10:54 | so you think they should be different? | |
10:55 | oleonard | I don't actually know |
10:55 | cait | the logic behind is pretty insance |
10:55 | i might propose it and note the differences once i have found them all | |
10:55 | hiding additional icons would not be hard | |
11:30 | ashimema[m] | funny cait.. I was looking at some of the code around there recently too |
11:30 | when I was doing fixes for table sizing prior to it being reverted | |
11:31 | there's some terrible logic in the results list table on the opac.. we should at least hide the empty columns if not removing them from the table entirely at the template side | |
11:31 | also.. they're marked up as 'selectcol' when they're clearly not | |
11:32 | grrr | |
11:32 | cait1 | i think we are talking about very different thing |
11:32 | s | |
11:32 | I am in the XSLT - the material type, format and audience information drawn from all the controlled field positions | |
11:32 | ashimema[m] | ok |
11:32 | different | |
11:32 | cait1 | yep |
11:33 | even more horrible i think | |
11:33 | :) | |
11:33 | this one line display has like... a few hundred lines of code behind it | |
11:34 | that's why i think separating it into an extra file that is the same between opac and staff would be a nice idea | |
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11:35 | ashimema[m] | sounds sensible |
11:37 | oleonard | I'm getting this error when running some tests: |
11:37 | Cannot open /tmp/fh6pFlDVON/etc/koha/log4perl.conf (No such file or directory) | |
11:37 | Is this a configuration problem on my end? | |
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12:04 | Joubu | which tests oleonard? |
12:04 | oleonard | More than one, including t/db_dependent/Circulation/transferbook.t. I'm testing Bug 19532. |
12:04 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha |
12:07 | magnuse | /tmp/ looks like a bad place for a conf file? unless it's some docker thing I know nothing about |
12:07 | oleonard | Hm, similar errors when I try to rebuild zebra "Cannot open `/tmp/fh6pFlDVON/etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-authorities-dom.cfg' [No such file or directory]" |
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12:12 | Joubu | oleonard: koha-testing-docker or kohadevbox? |
12:13 | what's the value of log4perl_conf in koha_conf? Is the path valid? | |
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13:30 | cait1 | tcohen: hope you are not grumpy i made the bug fix a dependency :) (analytics feature) |
13:32 | ashimema[m] | grumpy.. tcohen.. never.... |
13:35 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: DBIC schema changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aea29a67159c7c229> |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Rename publicationdate with published_on <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9419f133aad830a2> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: DBRev 20.06.00.033 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]943cbf98828ae3541> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 26324: Fix spelling resizable vs resizeable in Dopop <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ebd96d722f1c77387> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: (QA follow-up) Check for field existence in db rev <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1b29b1fa061b6ab54> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 25584: Fix minor styling issue <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]68cf8f43bc308f142> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 25584: Refresh checkouts table when a return claim is added <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3070fb660850be511> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: (QA follow-up) Fix publication date display in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]942aef13acbf24fc9> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 24147: Don't assume search_related will return ordered values <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0111acb79d4d53111> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 25630: (follow-up) Fix capitalization and terminology for system preferences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]70a65599325dd4737> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Update translated news and notices <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c153ea10b9afa867e> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Update English sample notices <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7434cf513dcc013d7> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Update NewsChannels.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da618adcde1ac7324> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Resolve SQL errors in strict mode <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e79b3ab980edc47db> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 25101: (follow-up) Tick preview checkbox on by default <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0cea45662165f60f0> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 25630: Fix capitalization and terminology for Accounting, Administration and... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]198793e5b48917e69> | |
13:35 | tcohen | cait1 it is PQA isn't it? |
13:35 | :-D | |
13:35 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 25630: Fix capitalization and terminology for Authorities and Cataloging system... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]05a682469303c614f> |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 25101: Add ability to skip previewing results when batch extending due dates <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]30bff889b9ae49176> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Code changes needed for replacing opac_news.timestamp <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3eac5a003df4f334b> | |
13:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 21066: Database revision <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d22ba4c63a593eaf> | |
13:36 | tcohen | cait1 I asked a question here, that you're the one to answer I belive https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=26327#c11 |
13:36 | huginn | Bug 26327: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Include transacting library in fines |
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13:48 | * ashimema[m] | just stole a QA from Tomas |
13:48 | ashimema[m] | sorry tcohen ;) |
13:48 | tcohen | wait what? |
13:48 | wahanui | well, wait is that one debit or credit? I always confuse the two |
13:49 | ashimema[m] | I QA'd something that had your name on it |
13:49 | caroline | same wahanui! |
13:49 | ashimema[m] | didn't spot your name until after I had gone through the process.. |
13:49 | Kyles SIP holds block bug | |
13:49 | bug 25541 | |
13:49 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25541 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add ability to prevent checkin via SIP of items with holds |
13:51 | ashimema[m] | the QA queue is kinda crazy low... did you get the branding iron out or something whilst I was away? |
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14:26 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
14:26 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
14:26 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #377: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/377/ |
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14:32 | oleonard_ | Hi ivan_ and enkidu |
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14:33 | ivan_ | oleonard_: hi, how are you? Ready help me? :) |
14:33 | with elasticsearch | |
14:33 | oleonard_ | haha, not with elasticsearch! I don't know about that. |
14:34 | But ask anyway and if anyone else here knows the answer they can chime in | |
14:36 | ivan_ | after command `misc/search_tools/rebuild_elasticsearch.pl -v -d` I see error |
14:36 | lukeG | Joubu around? |
14:37 | Joubu | yes |
14:37 | ivan_ | [Request] ** [http://localhost:9200]-[400] [illegal_argument_exception] Custom Analyzer [analyzer_phrase] failed to find filter under name [icu_folding], called from sub Search::Elasticsearch::Role::Client::Direct::__ANON__ at /inlibro/git/koha-oralise-dev-inlibro/Koha/SearchEngine/Elasticsearch/Indexer.pm line 341. With vars: {'body' => {'status' => 400,'error' => {'type' => 'illegal_argument_exception','reason' => 'Custom Analyzer [analyzer_phrase] failed |
14:37 | What is this? Thanks | |
14:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #401: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/401/ |
14:38 | lukeG | Joubu: im testing Bug 26265 on 20.05, after adding the patches I missed I am still failing tests on xt/check_makefile.t |
14:38 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=26265 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to master , Makefile.PL is missing pos directory |
14:38 | vfernandes | ivan_ -> which ES version are you using? |
14:38 | lukeG | not ok 1 - All directories must be listed in Makefile.PL |
14:38 | Joubu | lukeG: which directories? |
14:38 | ivan_ | vfernandes: 5.6 |
14:38 | Joubu | It can happen locally if you have untracked dir |
14:38 | ivan_ | vfernandes: 5.6.4 |
14:39 | vfernandes: "number": "5.6.16" | |
14:39 | vfernandes | did you install analysis-icu? sudo /usr/share/elasticsearch/bin/elasticsearch-plugin install analysis-icu |
14:39 | ivan_ | vfernandes: yes, I did it |
14:40 | sudo /usr/share/elasticsearch/bin/elasticsearch-plugin install analysis-icu [sudo] password for ivan: -> Downloading analysis-icu from elastic [=================================================] 100% -> Installed analysis-icu | |
14:40 | lukeG | Joubu: thank you |
14:42 | vfernandes | did you restarted ES after installing? |
14:43 | ivan_ | vfernandes: no :) |
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14:46 | vfernandes | try it :) |
14:54 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U20 build #84: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U20/84/ |
14:56 | vfernandes | ivan_: worked? |
14:59 | ivan_ | vfernandes: yes Thanks!) It remains to understand the name of the index, which I created :) |
15:00 | cait1 | ... to do what with? |
15:01 | sorry, my window was stuck, that was referring to ashimema's ealrier branding iron comment | |
15:02 | ashimema[m] | just impressed by the QA queue.. I've not seen it this low in many months.. |
15:02 | but yeah.. The SO queue is high | |
15:02 | Joubu | s/months/years actually |
15:03 | ashimema[m] | indeed |
15:03 | cait1 is amazing.. | |
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15:04 | cait1 | i added the SO queue to tonight's agenda |
15:04 | i thnk we need to think about some event or so - or maybe put in newsletter etc. | |
15:04 | oleonard | Oh I'm glad you mentioned the agenda, I forgot there was a meeting |
15:05 | cait1 | ;) |
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15:06 | * ashimema[m] | still has another 215 emails to work through since coming back from vacation |
15:06 | ashimema[m] | soooo much bugmail |
15:07 | cait1 | sorry not sorry ;) |
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15:14 | reiveune | bye |
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15:18 | ivan_ | vfernandes: My koha-conf.xml for elasticsearch is <index_name>test_index</index_name> . Why I can't see this index on the page http://localhost:9200/test_index/_search ? "status": 404 |
15:18 | oleonard | I wonder if my regular patch-testers are on vacation. I'm going through signoff withdrawal. |
15:19 | lukeG | oleonard is there anything in particular I could test for you? |
15:19 | oleonard | @later tell oleonard_ You should test Bug 26305 |
15:19 | huginn | oleonard: The operation succeeded. |
15:19 | caroline | oleonard: we have a new itern and I told him to check for your bugs |
15:19 | oleonard | lukeG nothing in particular I'm just complaining :) |
15:20 | lukeG | :) |
15:21 | oleonard | Thanks caroline, I was hoping your intern could test the JS internationalization bugs in particular. |
15:21 | caroline | I'll let him know |
15:31 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #339: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/339/ |
15:33 | ivan_ | how to find the index of elasticsearch through the address bar? (ex. http://localhost:9200/index_na[…]type_doc/_search) Thanks |
15:35 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #884: SUCCESS in 58 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/884/ |
15:36 | oleonard | tcohen around? |
15:36 | tcohen | around-ish |
15:36 | yes | |
15:37 | oleonard | I've got weird issues with indexing zebra that I think are docker-related |
15:38 | zebraidx(36201) [warn] Cannot open `/tmp/fh6pFlDVON/etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios-dom.cfg' [No such file or directory] | |
15:38 | The config information it displays at the start of the rebuild says "Zebra biblio directory = /tmp/fh6pFlDVON/var/lib/zebradb/biblios" | |
15:39 | tcohen | does that happen when running tests? |
15:39 | is it plain KTD? | |
15:39 | oleonard | Yes, on Mac. |
15:40 | I got other errors when running tests, Cannot open /tmp/fh6pFlDVON/etc/koha/log4perl.conf (No such file or directory) | |
15:40 | caroline | Is the elasticsearch guru kidclamp? |
15:41 | oleonard | And spiritual guru |
15:41 | tcohen | oleonard you could try deleting the existing volumes |
15:41 | caroline | and mustache guru |
15:42 | tcohen | oleonard zebra_config.pl |
15:42 | might be generating those bad paths | |
15:42 | oleonard | How do I delete volumes? |
15:42 | tcohen | docker volume prune |
15:43 | and then recreate the KTD stuff | |
15:43 | oleonard | Okay cool I always forget that that is a step I can take to refresh things |
15:44 | tcohen | yes but |
15:44 | zebra_config.pl and t/Logger.t | |
15:44 | they both share the recreation of config files on temporary places | |
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15:44 | tcohen | so this might be a problem |
15:45 | it should be using /var/tmp/koha/kohadev | |
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15:45 | tcohen | soirry, /var/lib/koha//kohadev/tmp |
15:45 | what KOHA_IMAGE have you set? | |
15:47 | oleonard | master |
15:48 | tcohen | so stretch |
15:49 | I cannot reproduce | |
15:49 | try docker system prune -a | |
15:49 | and docker volume prune | |
15:49 | oleonard | It looks like "docker volume prune" did the trick |
15:50 | The zebra biblio directory looks correct now | |
15:50 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
15:50 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
15:50 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #71: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D10/71/ |
15:50 | tcohen | great, oleonard |
15:50 | oleonard | What a weird problem |
15:51 | Thanks for your help tcohen | |
15:54 | tcohen | oleonard on Mac, we found that the docker subsystem uses a portion of the filesystem for the volumes, a fixed size thing |
15:54 | and when it fills up | |
15:54 | weird behaviours are seen | |
15:56 | oleonard | The prune process did say it cleared up over 8GB |
15:57 | tcohen | \o/ |
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16:02 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
16:02 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
16:02 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #77: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_20.05_D9/77/ |
16:02 | kidclamp | ivan_: I don't know, that used to work for me, but hasn't in a long time |
16:03 | koha_instance_biblios/data/ | |
16:03 | Those are index and type | |
16:03 | _authorities for authorities | |
16:05 | ivan_ | kidclamp: yes, thanks |
16:06 | caroline | Is it snob of me to think we should change "librarian" for "library staff"? (ex. Note: Your comment must be approved by a librarian.) |
16:10 | oleonard | I like that suggestion |
16:10 | * oleonard | is a "librarian" without a degree so is biased ;) |
16:14 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
16:14 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
16:14 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #67: FIXED in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]_20.05_D9_My8/67/ |
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16:30 | ivandz | test... |
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16:31 | ivandz | caroline, test |
16:31 | oleonard | What are you testing ivandz? |
16:31 | * caroline | waves at ivandz |
16:32 | caroline | he is one of my new coworkers :) we just installed an IRC client |
16:32 | oleonard | Welcome, ivandz :) |
16:33 | * ashimema[m] | quietly weeps into his keyboard whilst trying to rebase a test he only wrote a week ago but now can't remember at all |
16:34 | oleonard | I know the pain of trying to rebase a patch when you've forgotten what you did :( |
16:34 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
16:34 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
16:34 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_U18 build #62: FIXED in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_U18/62/ |
16:34 | ashimema[m] | The most anoying part of it.. I also wrote the patch that breaks it to require the rebase |
16:35 | oleonard | You villain. |
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16:46 | ashimema[m] | lol |
17:01 | ivandz | oleonard, HexChat I am ivan (elasticsearch) |
17:05 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
17:05 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
17:05 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #60: FIXED in 1 hr 5 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_U20/60/ |
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18:16 | oleonard | Anyone else get an error in master from circ/transferstoreceive.pl? |
18:16 | Can't call method "description" on an undefined value at /kohadevbox/koha/circ/transferstoreceive.pl line 98 | |
18:20 | caroline | hm, right now no, I can see my transfers to receive.., but let me update my master |
18:22 | still good... :/ | |
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18:25 | oleonard | My day for weird errors |
18:37 | caroline | oleonard: do you think the community would be interested in something like this for comments? https://snipboard.io/3CNEGP.jpg |
18:37 | A client is asking for this and I was wonering if we should develop it with the community in mind | |
18:38 | I think it looks kinda cool | |
18:44 | oleonard | Putting comments into the sidebar instead of under a tab? |
18:44 | caroline | yeah, with a title and the stars |
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18:50 | oleonard | It think it would be an appealing option |
18:51 | Grouping the rating with the comment shows that it would make sense for us to add the star ratings input on the comment form | |
18:53 | caroline | that was part of my specs, doesn't exclude that it could be standalon also, if someone only wants to rate it and not enter a comment |
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18:57 | * oleonard | forbids anyone from submitting an OPAC patch until Bug 20168 is pushed |
18:57 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Update of the OPAC bootstrap template to bootstrap v4 |
18:57 | * oleonard | brandishes a cutlass menacingly |
18:59 | , scared of the cutlass, resists the urge to write a patch putting the comment form into a modal window | |
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19:27 | cait | oleonard-away: you make me wonder if i should look up that unknown word or not |
19:33 | caroline | cait: it's just a type of sword I think |
19:34 | cait | i can't really imagine oleonard wielding a sword... or well, maybe |
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19:57 | tuxayo | Apologies, can't attend to the meeting. |
20:00 | * oleonard | brandishes his cutlass at tuxayo |
20:01 | cait | scary |
20:02 | Joubu: around? :) | |
20:03 | * oleonard | brandishes his cutlass at Joubu |
20:03 | cait | hm not keen on running meetings this time of day anymore |
20:03 | a little too sleepy | |
20:04 | caroline | I can try |
20:04 | oleonard | If almost no one is around we should just postpone |
20:04 | caroline | who is around for the meeting? |
20:04 | me | |
20:04 | cait | maybe we could have a mini one? |
20:05 | davidnind | Where are all the New Zealanders?:) |
20:05 | cait | I#d really like to discuss ideas about getting more sign offs in |
20:05 | tiny bit too ealry still for them maybe | |
20:05 | caroline | ok, well, lets do one and the others can just read the minutes and accept whatever we decicde :_) |
20:05 | davidnind | It's 8am, so probably on the cusp... |
20:06 | cait | code names for releases! |
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20:06 | * cait | goes to add all her secret plans to the agenda for voting |
20:06 | cait | donnab: meet with us? :) |
20:06 | caroline | ok I'll start then |
20:06 | #startmeeting General IRC meeting 2 September 2020 | |
20:06 | huginn | Meeting started Wed Sep 2 20:06:40 2020 UTC. The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
20:06 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
20:06 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 September 2020) | |
20:06 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_2_september_2020' |
20:06 | caroline | chair cait |
20:06 | cait | with # :) |
20:06 | caroline | #chair cait |
20:06 | huginn | Current chairs: cait caroline |
20:07 | caroline | sorry! |
20:07 | davidnind | #info Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_2_September_2020 |
20:07 | caroline | #topic Introductions |
20:07 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 September 2020) | |
20:07 | cait | we can do it all together |
20:07 | caroline | (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes) |
20:07 | cait | #chair davidnind |
20:07 | huginn | Current chairs: cait caroline davidnind |
20:07 | donnab | #info Donna Bachowski, ByWater Solutions |
20:07 | oleonard | #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
20:07 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
20:07 | caroline | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro |
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20:08 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
20:08 | lisettelatah | #info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District, Idaho, USA |
20:08 | kathryn | #info Kathryn Tyree, Catalyst IT, New Zealand |
20:08 | tcohen | #info Tomas Cohen Arazi, Theke Solutions |
20:09 | edveal | #info Ed Veal, McKinney Public Library |
20:09 | caroline | #topic Announcements |
20:09 | Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 September 2020) | |
20:10 | caroline | anything to annouce? |
20:10 | cait | not from me |
20:10 | caroline | there is no specific agenda point for kohacon |
20:10 | cait | yep, just noticed too |
20:10 | caroline | is there anything new? |
20:11 | cait | kathryn: maybe? |
20:11 | kathryn | Kia ora, 46 days away eep! |
20:11 | caroline | yas! |
20:11 | kathryn | #info We need people to register please regardless if they are coming in person or online |
20:11 | * cait | is registered virtually :) |
20:11 | kathryn | :) |
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20:12 | kathryn | #info the programme looks excellent, we're starting to work on some online social events which you'll hear more about soon |
20:12 | caroline | is there a way to check if we're registered? I'm pretty sure I did it, but now i'm not sure anymore |
20:12 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
20:12 | kathryn | just ask, we don't mind caroline |
20:13 | lisettelatah | The Koha-US 2020 Conference schedule and registration are live on our website. |
20:13 | http://koha-us.org/learn/confe[…]linetogether2020/ | |
20:14 | cait | thx lisettelatah |
20:15 | caroline | lisettelatah: this is this month right? |
20:15 | cait | #info The Koha-US 2020 Conference schedule and registration are live on their website |
20:15 | lisettelatah | yes, the dates are September 22nd-24th |
20:15 | cait | #link http://koha-us.org/learn/confe[…]linetogether2020/ |
20:15 | kathryn | Also Alex from Catalyst and Jessie at Bywater did a webinar last week, which has about 10,000 views so far - if that keeps up we can expect a lot of engagement in our online events, during and after |
20:15 | cait | #info dates are September 22nd-24th |
20:15 | kathryn | I need to find the link... |
20:16 | davidnind | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BUsdC61B6Y |
20:17 | kathryn | thank you davidnind, I found every other link possible :) |
20:18 | #info the above link is for the International Koha Webinar kindly hosted by the North Eastern Hill University last week | |
20:18 | (no more from me) | |
20:19 | caroline | #topic Update on releases |
20:19 | Topic for #koha is now Update on releases (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 September 2020) | |
20:19 | caroline | Joubu says Everything is going well. Still need urgent feedback on bug 20271 (Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables). |
20:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20271 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables |
20:20 | caroline | re: 20.11 |
20:20 | cait | #info oubu says Everything is going well. Still need urgent feedback on bug 20271 (Merge deleted biblio, biblioitems, biblio_metadata, and items tables). |
20:20 | hm, J went missing... | |
20:20 | oleonard | I didn't see that Bug 20271 had gone into 'in discussion' |
20:20 | cait | missed it too, bit behind there |
20:21 | caroline | anything from our rmaints? |
20:21 | cait | rmaints? |
20:21 | wahanui | lukeG, aleisha, and tuxayo, I SUMMON THEE!! |
20:21 | caroline | I saw that there was a tiny rmaint meeting the other day :D |
20:21 | tuxayo said he wouldn't be here | |
20:21 | cait | #info congratulations to the well coordinated security releases! |
20:21 | kathryn | Aleisha asked me to pass this along: |
20:22 | tcohen | aleisha++ |
20:22 | tuxayo++ | |
20:22 | lukeG++ | |
20:22 | Joubu++ | |
20:22 | cait | mtj++ |
20:22 | tcohen | mtj++ |
20:22 | team_work++ | |
20:22 | cait | aleisha++ tuxayo++ lukeG++ |
20:22 | balance :) | |
20:22 | kathryn | #info Aleisha would like to note that the wiki needs work on security release guidance, but the team worked well together to get it out |
20:23 | cait | if there are any issues, please feel free to add questions or anything that was missing |
20:23 | tcohen | there will be a new security release soon, so we'll see what we've learnt :-D |
20:23 | cait | i think the current write up dates back to me |
20:23 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]security_releases | |
20:24 | kathryn | cait It sounded like there were some changes/discussions by email maybe, I don't know all the details sorry |
20:24 | cait | that's ok - we need constant improvement |
20:24 | kathryn | of course! |
20:24 | tcohen | better each time :-D |
20:25 | cait | as you can tell from the version noted there (17.05) it's been around a while :) |
20:25 | kathryn | yep! |
20:26 | caroline | #topic Encourage community sign-offs |
20:26 | Topic for #koha is now Encourage community sign-offs (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 September 2020) | |
20:26 | caroline | #info At the moment the QA queue is emptying out while the numbers in "needs Signoff" are rising steadily. We should discuss ways to actively encourage sign-offs and testing. |
20:26 | cait | that's from me |
20:27 | as you can tell... having the qa queue at 6 or even 5 was a pretty nice feeling, but it's NOT NORMAL :) | |
20:27 | I think we have a problem with the SO queue right now | |
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20:27 | cait | i was hoping we could brainstorm a bit to see if we can come with some things |
20:28 | davidnind | The dashboard: https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ |
20:28 | cait | maybe we could think of having anothe rtesting event? |
20:29 | the webinar style ones were a pretty big hit the last time we had a testing day | |
20:29 | tcohen | I think we haven't been focused on some big things |
20:29 | cait | and... we got some sign offs |
20:29 | tcohen | that demand hours |
20:29 | caroline | there is something on sept 24 with koha-us |
20:29 | cait | lisettelatah: still around maybe? |
20:29 | lisettelatah | Yes |
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20:30 | lisettelatah | we are focusing the third day of the conference as a bug-a-palooza. I'm going to start with a webinar/demo of finding a bug and doing a few signoffs. |
20:30 | cait | looking for somoene to promote testing and sign offs at the US event :) |
20:30 | awesome | |
20:30 | davidnind | lisettelatah++ |
20:31 | tcohen | lisettelatah++ |
20:31 | CrispyBran | bug-a-palooza sounds so Americany |
20:31 | cait | #info Koha US/lisettelatah: we are focusing the third day of the conference as a bug-a-palooza. I'm going to start with a webinar/demo of finding a bug and doing a few signoffs. |
20:31 | it is... but in a nice way kinda to me | |
20:31 | ashimema[m] | sorry I'm late |
20:31 | lisettelatah | The rest of the day we are wanting to keep doing testing and also encourage discussion of bugs that line up with our Special Interest Groups (Webdev, acquisitions, etc) and try and get more signoffs and also discussions. |
20:31 | cait | ashimema[m]: quite right to help with ideas on improving bug flow |
20:32 | CrispyBran | We are all about making up words or re-using parts of words. |
20:32 | cait | lisettelatah: comments/questions on bugs are great too |
20:32 | * ashimema[m] | reads back a bit |
20:33 | caroline | Test plans are a big part for me... I was looking for easy-ish bugs to SO for our new employees, and I had to skip a couple that didn't have good test plans |
20:33 | cait | definitely |
20:33 | asking for a better test plan is totally valid too | |
20:33 | if somehing looks to hard to test, feel free to tell the devs | |
20:33 | caroline | ok I'll keep that in mins |
20:33 | mind | |
20:33 | thd | lisettlelatah: Will the third day conference be recorded in some way for later access and review? |
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20:35 | lisettelatah | The Sandboxes demo at the start will be. Since the rest will mostly be more freeform than the other recordings we weren't planning on it, but if people think it would be helpful I'll bring it up at our next meeting. |
20:36 | cait | #info We are in need of more testers and sign-offs, please help us out! |
20:37 | I don't have anymore.. maybe we need to keep thinking about it | |
20:37 | caroline | It'll be interesting to see how the bug-a-palooza will go, maybe it's something we could do on a regular basis? |
20:37 | cait | we used to have gbsd = global bug squashing days |
20:37 | caroline | like stream an intro and then have a bug squash |
20:37 | cait | yeah |
20:38 | lukeG | I will try to be better about signing off on things! |
20:38 | caroline | did the last one go well? |
20:38 | cait | i think KohaCon also plans for some kind of virtual hackfest |
20:38 | thd | In general it would be helpful to have explanations of X in various formats including video if it can be done and better persisted on Youtube or some such place than in a less accessible Zoom silo. |
20:38 | cait | caroline: i tihnk the last event we had went well, but there also was a bug squash session from bywater |
20:38 | so that combination seems to be a good idea | |
20:38 | kathryn | Kohacon hack fest "DIY" is Sat-Sun NZ time22-23 Oct |
20:39 | We're naming it DIY to encourage non developers to come too :) | |
20:39 | cait | i like it :) |
20:40 | ashimema[m] | +1 |
20:40 | cait | moving on? |
20:40 | caroline | sure |
20:40 | kathryn | Btw, DIY means do it yourself |
20:40 | caroline | #topic Actions from last meeting |
20:40 | Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 September 2020) | |
20:41 | caroline | the only action point from last meeting is caroline will change the message in the manual saying that the staff side doesn't work with IE |
20:41 | and I scrambled earlier to see if I had done it hehe XD | |
20:41 | yes i did https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]/source/intro.rst | |
20:41 | davidnind | caroline++ |
20:41 | caroline | with oleonard's help to make sure the english was ok |
20:42 | cait | caroline++ oleonard++ :) |
20:42 | caroline | alright, so only point left is next meeting |
20:42 | #topic set time of next meeting | |
20:42 | Topic for #koha is now set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: General IRC meeting 2 September 2020) | |
20:42 | caroline | october 7? |
20:43 | cait | we probably are missing a bit chance tonight ot make some radical decisions :) |
20:43 | sounds good | |
20:43 | caroline | like? |
20:43 | wahanui | like is it possible to translate to all calendar systems you use from one calendar system |
20:43 | caroline | what kind of radical decisions did you want to make ? lol |
20:43 | oleonard | wahanui is down for radical change |
20:44 | kathryn | I approve teleporting you all to Kohacon |
20:44 | cait | yeah :) |
20:44 | caroline | do we keep the meeting at this time for kohacon updates? |
20:44 | cait | +1! |
20:44 | kathryn | I would really appreciate that! |
20:44 | cait | as we get so close that makes sense to me |
20:45 | kathryn | it's in our team calendar now :) |
20:45 | caroline | #info Next meeting: 7 October 2020, 20 UTC |
20:45 | #endmeeting | |
20:45 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org | |
20:45 | huginn | Meeting ended Wed Sep 2 20:45:40 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
20:45 | Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-09-02-20.06.html | |
20:45 | Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]0-09-02-20.06.txt | |
20:45 | Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]02-20.06.log.html | |
20:45 | davidnind | caroline++ |
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20:46 | cait | caroline++ |
20:46 | kathryn | good night/good day everyone :) |
20:46 | caroline | ashimema[m]: do you still have to manually run the thingy to add the next meeting to the calendar? |
20:46 | (and create minutes) | |
20:46 | ashimema[m] | me or joubu |
20:48 | * ashimema[m] | is on his phone though at the minute rather than computer |
20:48 | caroline | no worries... I just wanted to know if I should remind you or if it's somehow automated now |
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21:49 | wizzyrea | aleisha++ |
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22:18 | lukeG | anyone else getting a JS. error on /cgi-bin/koha/circ/returns.pl in 20.05.x? |
22:41 | oleonard-away | At what stage lukeG? |
22:42 | lukeG | I see it right away, before I do anything |
22:43 | Uncaught SyntaxError: expected expression, got keyword 'var' | |
22:44 | i think it doesn't like this line in returns.tt | |
22:44 | var columns_settings = [% TablesSettings.GetColumns( 'circ', 'returns', 'checkedintable', 'json' ) | $raw %] | |
22:45 | oleonard-away | I don't get that error. Check the source to see if that template tag is getting evaluated to something sane. |
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22:47 | lukeG | it appears to be getting evaluated as empty or NULL because all I see is 'var columns_settings =' |
22:56 | oleonard-away | Any luck figuring out why, lukeG? |
22:57 | lukeG | not yet |
22:57 | oleonard-away: is your 20.05.x up to date? | |
22:58 | i checked master and 19.11, and I don't see the error | |
22:58 | oleonard-away | Oh sorry I should have said I was looking at master |
22:59 | lukeG | Oh sorry, it seems to be a 20.05.x only problem |
22:59 | So something I did wrong, I'd reckon | |
23:00 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26361 | |
23:00 | huginn | Bug 26361: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , JS error on returns.tt in 20.05 |
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