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| 01:25 | mtj | @later tell tcohen: the nightly packages are now signed, perhaps we can remove the 'deb [trusted=yes]' from the apt line in ktd and kdb |
| 01:25 | huginn | mtj: The operation succeeded. |
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| 02:40 | aleisha_ | hey team can someone please help me with some encoding problems? |
| 02:44 | my MARC record has M\x{101}ori instead of Māori | |
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| 03:30 | mtj | hi aleisha_, have a look here.. https://perldoc.perl.org/utf8.html |
| 03:30 | aleisha_ | thanks mtj but i figured it out! |
| 03:30 | mtj | my $str ="M\x{101}ori"; |
| 03:30 | utf8::encode($str); | |
| 03:30 | print $str; | |
| 03:31 | ah cool :) | |
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| 06:17 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:31 | dcook | aleisha_: That's interesting. Just bad data? |
| 06:31 | * dcook | waves at reiveune |
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| 06:49 | dcook | hey lmstrand |
| 06:49 | I added a bunch more comments on your Bugzilla heh | |
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| 06:50 | dcook | Partially inspired by jajm / jajm_ |
| 06:50 | ashimema | mornin' |
| 06:50 | lmstrand | yea I'm just reading it. |
| 06:50 | dcook | heya ashimema |
| 06:50 | wahanui | it has been said that ashimema is literally just writing up the release anouncement ;) |
| 06:50 | lmstrand | mornin' |
| 06:51 | ashimema | 3 minutes of geek: https://youtu.be/VIlBO96g4Zk |
| 06:51 | dcook | Oh man I haven't watched one of these in ages |
| 06:51 | Is "Gource" a typo? or is it GeekSource? | |
| 06:52 | ashimema | Not sure what tempted me.. I found the 10 year one and decided to run one for now. |
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| 06:52 | ashimema | I aim to polish it a bit.. music and parsing our history file |
| 06:52 | and the labels need some tweaking | |
| 06:53 | never heard of GeekSource | |
| 06:53 | dcook | I was looking for myself in there but then got hypontized heh |
| 06:53 | ashimema | the app used to create it is call Gource |
| 06:53 | dcook | Oh I was just joking |
| 06:53 | Ahhh cool | |
| 06:53 | ashimema | lol |
| 06:53 | * dcook | isn't funny |
| 06:53 | dcook | Sometimes I'll say I'm funny and my kid will say "no you're not dad" |
| 06:54 | I can't tell if that's a compliment or an insult yet | |
| 06:54 | Like maybe "funny" was interpreted as weird rather than amusing.. | |
| 06:54 | >_> | |
| 06:54 | ashimema | lol |
| 06:54 | know that feeling | |
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| 06:58 | dcook | Well end of Friday work day for me. Good luck everyone :D |
| 06:58 | ashimema | have a good weekend :) |
| 06:58 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 09:14 | alex_a | Joubu, around ? |
| 09:31 | ashimema | He's not around allot at the minute.. travelling |
| 09:34 | alex_a | ashimema, can you tell me what is the goal of the commit "Add new method Acq::Invoice::Adjustement->fund" on bug 24157 you signed off ? |
| 09:34 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24157 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Additional acquisitions permissions |
| 09:35 | alex_a | This new method is not used right ? |
| 09:37 | ashimema | one tick.. let me remind myself ;) |
| 09:38 | ah.. I just added someones SO line when it didn't work via the ptfs-e sandboxes for some reason | |
| 09:38 | Galway contacted me to SO for them | |
| 09:39 | just taking a look at the patches | |
| 09:40 | hmm. you're right though.. does look odd to include it in this patchset | |
| 09:41 | Joubu was doing lots of inter-related bugs.. I bet it crept into this set from another one. | |
| 09:43 | looks like a useful method for the future.. but yeah.. no need for it here. | |
| 09:48 | alex_a | Merci ashimema :) |
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| 10:15 | cait1 | hm can someone explain the use case of voiding paymentsß |
| 10:15 | ? | |
| 10:16 | it looks like the payment is gone, but the "amount outstanding" remains the same, so it just seems to affect the payment, not the lines paid with it? | |
| 10:17 | ok, i see the issue | |
| 10:17 | the issue is old payments that are not linked to the accountlines | |
| 10:22 | * ashimema | struggles a bit with the concept of 'void' payments.. |
| 10:22 | ashimema | it's basically an 'reverse what I just did' action I believe.. that uses offsets to do it.. |
| 10:22 | cait1 | yeah but in old transactions there are no offsets |
| 10:23 | ashimema | indeed |
| 10:23 | cait1 | and we still show the link to void |
| 10:23 | davidnind | In accounting terms, it's a bit like saying this was entered in error and should be removed, but you want a record that it happened |
| 10:23 | cait1 | so when it ested with those, ti was confusing |
| 10:23 | a little dangerous too | |
| 10:23 | ashimema | well.. we try to build them wherever we can in more recent releases.. |
| 10:23 | that's part of the work I did.. some scary DB updates | |
| 10:23 | cait1 | i know, but most our libraries predate the reawakening of offsets :) |
| 10:23 | so somepretty old test data on my accounts too | |
| 10:23 | ashimema | there's also a patch in my queue to test.. 'cancel' charges |
| 10:24 | cait1 | yeah |
| 10:24 | wondering about the difference | |
| 10:24 | we should make it clear for docs too | |
| 10:24 | ashimema | which I believe sort of does the same thing but with charges instead of patyments.. |
| 10:24 | only the logic doesn't match entirely | |
| 10:24 | I was intending to update 'void' to allow for both at some point.. but it appears someone beat me to adding that cancel method | |
| 10:27 | hmm | |
| 10:27 | prove t/db_dependent/Koha/Account.t passes for me on master cait? | |
| 10:27 | it's a little messy.. but it does pass | |
| 10:28 | cait1 | where did i say it does not? |
| 10:28 | too many bugs | |
| 10:28 | ashimema | bug 19036 |
| 10:28 | wahanui | bug 19036 is a nice one which I can't QA however ;) |
| 10:28 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, BLOCKED , Number payment receipts / payment slips |
| 10:31 | ashimema | in fact.. |
| 10:31 | it passes on the bug for me too | |
| 10:31 | are you sure you ran the db update first ;) | |
| 10:36 | cait1 | it failed on master - maybe it got fixed? |
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| 10:37 | ashimema | perhaps.. can't say I've seen it fail to be honest |
| 10:37 | cait1 | i can try again, can you change status to push it back int he queue please? |
| 10:37 | ashimema | done |
| 10:37 | cait1 | thx! |
| 10:37 | ashimema | :) |
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| 10:47 | ashimema | hmm |
| 10:47 | I'm really wondering about the logic of VOID and CANCEL now | |
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| 10:48 | ashimema | In the majority of cases now we finally have consistent double entry accounting.. |
| 10:51 | jajm around? | |
| 10:57 | jajm | ashimema, yes |
| 10:57 | ashimema | Just commenting on bug 24603 |
| 10:57 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24603 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Allow to cancel charges in patron accounting |
| 10:58 | ashimema | I feel like it introduces a new inconsistency in our accounting system.. I'm not against the feature but might adopt it and implement it with detailed recording (double-entry accounting style) |
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| 10:58 | ashimema | did you have a customer after it.. is there some specific requirements I should be aware of.. |
| 10:58 | hope I'm not treading on toes | |
| 11:01 | jajm | ashimema, it was a client request yes, and i did not ask myself many questions on the implementation, just followed what existed for the 'void payment' feature |
| 11:01 | ashimema | commented |
| 11:01 | jajm | i'd be happy to change the implementation if needed, but i don't understand what would need to be changed |
| 11:01 | ashimema | did they specifically only want to allow cancellation of charges prior to their payment/partial payment? |
| 11:01 | I'm happy to do the work.. still have my head in the game with accounts | |
| 11:02 | just want to make sure I'm not breaking a specific requirement | |
| 11:02 | I'll add some patches to the bug... then you'll be able to see what I mean | |
| 11:05 | jajm | client request was not very specific, it was something like 'same as void payment, but for charges' |
| 11:10 | ashimema | brill |
| 11:11 | leave it with me.. :) | |
| 11:13 | the more I think about it the more like it just feels like a special case of 'Issue refund' | |
| 11:23 | oleonard | o/ |
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| 11:27 | TimothyAlexis | Hey, I'm looking at cleanup_database.pl and tried running it manually with --fees 1 |
| 11:28 | I have also tried to see if there is any bug report about it. | |
| 11:29 | ashimema | mornin' oleonard |
| 11:29 | TimothyAlexis | Is there something I need to think about when running this? |
| 11:29 | ashimema | any thoughts on the rapidly expanding list of 'Actions' on the transactions table under accounts from a UX perspective? |
| 11:30 | oleonard | ashimema: Currently we're breaking with established patterns by having as many as three buttons. Usually we'd put those into a menu. |
| 11:31 | ashimema | indeed.. that's what I was thinking |
| 11:31 | just another bug for me to add to the pile.. lol | |
| 11:31 | I don't like that view much already | |
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| 11:33 | TimothyAlexis | ashimema, tuxayo: I talked to my colleagues about accessibility planning and Åsa Forsberg will write to Katrin Fischer to promote cooperation, as I have 3 weeks of holiday. |
| 11:38 | ashimema | :) |
| 11:38 | TimothyAlexis | What do I need to do to get this to work? cleanup_database.pl --fees 1 |
| 11:40 | --fees DAYS purge entries accountlines older than DAYS days, where amountoutstanding is 0 or NULL. In the case of --fees, DAYS must be greater than or equal to 1 | |
| 11:41 | 130 entries remain in accountlines table with amountoutstanding = 0 | |
| 11:45 | ashimema | hmm |
| 11:46 | perhaps run it without the --confirm (assuming that one requires confirm).. but prepend it with `DBIC_TRACE=1 DBIC_TRACE_PROFILE=console` | |
| 11:46 | that'll spit out the SQL queries it's using | |
| 11:46 | I think | |
| 11:49 | TimothyAlexis | I ran it with --verbose and got: |
| 11:49 | Purging records from accountlines. | |
| 11:49 | Done purging records from accountlines. | |
| 11:50 | How do I prepend that? | |
| 11:55 | ashimema | literally put it before you execute the command |
| 11:55 | `DBIC_TRACE=1 DBIC_TRACE_PROFILE=console ./cleanup_database.pl --whatever` | |
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| 12:04 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:07 | oleonard | Hi tcohen |
| 12:07 | tcohen | hey oleonard |
| 12:07 | wahanui | somebody said oleonard was happy for ashimema to write the release script |
| 12:10 | oleonard | All of wahanui's knowledge of us centers around release scripts. |
| 12:23 | tcohen | tcohen? |
| 12:23 | wahanui | you are the man you want to thank |
| 12:23 | tcohen | well, I haven't released anything for a while it seems LOL |
| 12:23 | * tcohen | feels left apart |
| 12:25 | oleonard | tcohen: If you want to release something I'm sure it can be arranged in a few months ;) |
| 12:25 | TimothyAlexis | Thank you ashimema |
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| 13:10 | eythian | hi |
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| 13:23 | ashimema | jajm did the customer have a clear use for cancel vs writeoff? |
| 13:24 | we're going to end up with lots of very similar actions.. 'Writeoff', 'Cancel', 'Discount', 'Refund' | |
| 13:24 | I suppose they all sort of make sense. | |
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| 14:43 | caroline | Dumb question: is it possible to manually transfer an item to another library without it having to be sent back as soon as it is checked in to "receive" the transfer? |
| 14:43 | I don't necessarily want to change the circ rules, I just want to transfer some items from library A to library B | |
| 14:44 | oleonard | I think you'd have to update the home location |
| 14:44 | ...if the circ rule doesn't say the item type should float | |
| 14:44 | caroline | ok |
| 14:50 | I don't know why I thought if you made a transfer, it could stay at the destination library until it was checked out | |
| 14:51 | without changing the rule for everything in circ rules | |
| 14:51 | oleonard | caroline: I think one could argue that it *should* work that way. |
| 14:52 | Otherwise there's not really a point to the transfer system... unless you're worried about "contaminating" your check-in stats. | |
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| 14:59 | caroline | I'm thinking of a particular client, a school board with ~60 schools, which at the beginning of each year loan out thousands of textbooks, and they'd have to transfer some from one school to another to meet the demand of more populous schools.... |
| 15:00 | I wouldn't necessarily want them to have to change the home branch, because eventually the books would have to return to their home branch | |
| 15:00 | and I don't want to have the whole collection float | |
| 15:01 | I would want to transfer the items, have them checked out at the other school, and then when they are checked in, they return to their home branch | |
| 15:01 | does that make sense? | |
| 15:02 | oleonard | Yes |
| 15:03 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:27 | lukeG | Hi oleonard, got a question about bz12093 which I pushed to 20.05 but then reverted on cait's request. Now it should be OK to backport bz12093 AND bz25804, right? |
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| 15:38 | caroline | lukeG: I suggest you ask your question again, it seems oleonard was out :) |
| 15:41 | lukeG | I tested it and all seems well, but I can make sure! |
| 15:41 | Hi oleonard, got a question about bz12093 which I pushed to 20.05 but then reverted on cait's request. Now it should be OK to backport bz12093 AND bz25804, right? | |
| 15:44 | cait1 | bug 12093 |
| 15:44 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12093 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, david.roberts, Pushed to stable , Add CSS classes to item statuses in detail view |
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| 16:42 | ashimema | bug 22393 back at you cait :) |
| 16:42 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22393 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Remove last remaining manualinvoice use |
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| 17:44 | oleonard | Sorry lukeG, was afk |
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| 17:46 | lukeG | no worries oleonard, I backported bz12093 AND bz25804 and everything seems fine to me! |
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| 18:12 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 18:12 | @seen oleonard | |
| 18:12 | huginn | mtompset: oleonard was last seen in #koha 28 minutes and 15 seconds ago: <oleonard> Sorry lukeG, was afk |
| 18:13 | mtompset | oleonard, if you are here, I was wondering if I could pick your brain on how to get the last few feet on the bug 6815 problem. |
| 18:13 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, ASSIGNED , Capture member photo via webcam |
| 18:13 | mtompset | I actually have it updating it in the DB correctly now, but the page needs to refresh in order to see the change. |
| 18:16 | oleonard | mtompset are you talking about a newer patch than what is on the bug right now? |
| 18:16 | mtompset | Any ideas? |
| 18:16 | I took what was there... | |
| 18:16 | and kept going. | |
| 18:16 | I have the modal close after clicking "Take picture". | |
| 18:17 | But the main page doesn't show the picture. | |
| 18:17 | I refresh the page. The picture is now correct. | |
| 18:17 | How do I force that image to reload? | |
| 18:19 | Here... let me push up what I have thus far. | |
| 18:20 | oleonard | mtompset: Googling a little suggests that updating the image src with a timestamp query string might do it |
| 18:20 | image.jpg?random="+new Date().getTime(); | |
| 18:21 | mtompset | but the same things suggest that will fill the cache. |
| 18:24 | I've pushed up my next step onto the bug. | |
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| 18:32 | mtompset | OH! Idea! change the src twice! |
| 18:33 | oleonard | mtompset I think it would be good to take the picture, display it, and the offer the option to re-take or save. |
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| 18:34 | oleonard | mtompset I notice that after taking the picture the browser (and my webcam) still indicate that the camera is active. |
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| 18:41 | mtompset | Let me see if I can deal with that. |
| 18:42 | As for the retake... click take again -- once the refresh the image portion works. | |
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| 19:12 | mtompset | Okay webcam should turn off now. |
| 19:13 | Still have the last few feet problem: refresh the image. | |
| 19:15 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 19:15 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 19:15 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D9 build #29: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_20.05_D9/29/ |
| 19:17 | mtompset | okay, bleep it. We'll bleep it hard. reload everything! bwhahahaha! |
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| 19:28 | mtompset | Greetings, khall. |
| 19:29 | * mtompset | laughs, "I was just being friendly!" |
| 19:29 | mtompset | oleonard, Feel free to checkout bug 6815 now. |
| 19:29 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6815 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Capture member photo via webcam |
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| 20:59 | * caroline | is still feeling revolutionary, typing commie instead of commit... |
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| 21:12 | davidnind | lol! (setup a git alias and you can be a revolutionary for ever) |
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| 23:35 | mtompset | davidnind++ # humorous idea. :) |
| 23:38 | davidnind | :) |
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