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| 06:38 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:02 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 07:02 | wahanui | hi, alex_a |
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| 07:14 | cait | hm lots of cait activity |
| 07:15 | good morning #koha! | |
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| 07:33 | ashimema | mornin' |
| 07:36 | cait | morning ashimema! |
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| 08:35 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #24: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D10/24/ |
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| 09:49 | nlegrand | gut morgn! Vos makht ir? |
| 09:52 | cait | good morning nlegrand |
| 09:52 | nlegrand | a good day cait! |
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| 11:01 | tcohen | https://www.facebook.com/102.3[…]/563873980911250/ |
| 11:01 | ha, wrong link | |
| 11:01 | https://www.zdnet.com/article/[…]list-terminology/ | |
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| 11:25 | TimothyAlexis | I am checking 20.05.x for WCAG compliance. |
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| 11:30 | mtj | hi tcohen, Joubu.. the ttf-dejavu bug tested ok |
| 11:31 | TimothyAlexis | Every library in Sweden is required to comply to this checklist: |
| 11:31 | https://webbriktlinjer.se/wcag/?checklista | |
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| 11:32 | TimothyAlexis | R98 states that tables require a heading (thead or caption) |
| 11:36 | I found 144 files with code for tables that are without both caption and thead. 14 in OPAC, 130 in Intranet. | |
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| 11:54 | TimothyAlexis | I want to make sure that the bug report I supply is correct this time. |
| 12:00 | This is a EU-directive follows through as Swedish law on September 23:rd 2020. By then, we need all of Koha to be WCAG 2.1 compliant. | |
| 12:02 | ashimema | I'm working a fair bit on accessibility of late.. but I'm not sure we're aiming as high |
| 12:02 | be nice to see more work going on there.. | |
| 12:03 | TimothyAlexis | I know there are many who could be involved to contribute. |
| 12:03 | ashimema | I only have funding to get us up to UK Gov requirements at the OPAC level.. which is a selected list of A, AA and AAA levels |
| 12:03 | with a much tighter deadline than the Euro compliance is | |
| 12:03 | TimothyAlexis | At least from Sweden. |
| 12:03 | ashimema | I believe they're also intending to hit the staff client.. but later on.. |
| 12:04 | for the OPAC we have an incredibly detailed report.. the staff side is still being assessed | |
| 12:06 | TimothyAlexis | I'm new to Koha since April, when I was employed at Lund University Library. |
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| 12:08 | TimothyAlexis | I think there is a need for a coordinated effort towards WCAG 2.1 compliance. |
| 12:10 | So that there is cooperation towards that goal. | |
| 12:13 | In Sweden we have something called "Svenska Kohanätverket" (The Swedish Koha Network). We have a Slack community where there's a newly created channel called #Tillgänglighet (Accessibility). | |
| 12:13 | Which currently holds 29 members. | |
| 12:13 | ashimema | excellent |
| 12:13 | wahanui | darn tootin' it is. |
| 12:17 | TimothyAlexis | I think this requires cooperation on a larger scale. Is there such an opportunity available today? |
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| 12:22 | TimothyAlexis | I need to go away from the keyboard for some hours. I will post this in the Slack channel and opt for more to be involved. |
| 12:23 | When I'm back. | |
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| 12:28 | tcohen | TimothyAlexis you should write a plan, on the Wiki and probably propose some joint action on koha-devel |
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| 13:22 | oleonard | How long after something has been marked "pushed to oldoldstable" should we be concerned about why it isn't marked "resolved fixed?" |
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| 13:24 | cait | hm i think i only pick things at least 3 months old... maybe could add another thing to check for pushed oldoldstable next time? |
| 13:24 | well 3 months old at the time we do the bug mass edit... so it could be older at some point | |
| 13:24 | 6 months? | |
| 13:25 | caroline | I thought the person who pushed it to oldoldstable marked it as resolved fixed |
| 13:25 | oleonard | caroline: Me too |
| 13:25 | cait, it's something you do manually? | |
| 13:26 | cait | yes, it#s not a cron, i meet with rangi, he turns off email and we do batch edits |
| 13:26 | it's written up on the wiki | |
| 13:26 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]jor_release_tasks | |
| 13:28 | oleonard | Thanks cait |
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| 13:29 | * ashimema | wanted to do it more thoroughly as part of releaseing |
| 13:29 | ashimema | but was told we couldn't do it as it would spam too many people |
| 13:29 | I even have the scripts ready to go | |
| 13:29 | cait | i thin the issue is turning off the mail |
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| 13:35 | ashimema | yup |
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| 13:44 | ashimema | can you disable a notice somehow.. |
| 13:44 | other than setting it blank? | |
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| 13:45 | cait | you'd have to ask chris how he does it |
| 13:45 | it's either a switch in bugzilla or he turns it off server side | |
| 13:45 | ashimema | ooh.. |
| 13:45 | I meant in Koha | |
| 13:45 | cait | oh! |
| 13:45 | which oneß | |
| 13:45 | ? | |
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| 13:46 | Null404 | hello everyone |
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| 13:46 | ashimema | any |
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| 13:46 | * ashimema | is getting the YASP (Yet Another System Preference) twitch with this ILL bug ;) |
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| 13:48 | Null404 | Is the in KOHA an option to limit fee amount ? For expample: after 200$ KOHA don't count bigger fee |
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| 14:21 | oleonard | Null404 I think MaxFine is the pref you want |
| 14:21 | Null404 or look at the Circulation and Fine rules to define more specific settings | |
| 14:21 | cait | yes, there is global and per rule ones |
| 14:22 | oleonard | Null404 look for "Overdue fines cap" in the circulation rule options |
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| 14:37 | wizzyrea | hallo friends, is there a known problem with mana? we've been getting 502 errors |
| 14:39 | * oleonard | waves to wizzyrea in a sympathetic but unhelpful way |
| 14:44 | tcohen | we need to kill MaxFine :-D |
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| 14:46 | caroline | It's pretty much half dead already... :/ I've had several complaints from clients |
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| 14:47 | tcohen | exactly, we now have a new DB table to properly handle the global > specific setting |
| 14:51 | cait | kidclamp++ thx for the fail qa :) |
| 14:51 | oleonard++ thx for the sign-off | |
| 14:51 | tcohen: no we don't | |
| 14:51 | kidclamp | hah |
| 14:52 | cait | (kill MaxFine) |
| 14:54 | tcohen: moving it would beok | |
| 14:54 | * tcohen | meant that |
| 14:55 | * cait | sends cookies |
| 15:00 | * tcohen | always acccepts cookies |
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| 15:09 | enkidu | Hi all, does anyone got a problem like this? after upgrade Koha 20.05.01 by apt-get upgrade koha-common, local opac languaged missed we cannot see from opaclanguages from system preferences, but there is in language system pref. |
| 15:10 | cait | so it's in language but not in opaclanguage? |
| 15:10 | could the language have not been completely installed? like was there an error maybe? | |
| 15:12 | enkidu | Yes cait, I've checked with server and update the language |
| 15:12 | drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Tem 7 15:02 tr-TR | |
| 15:13 | we have language files under /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/bootstrap | |
| 15:14 | But we cannot select in the system preferences. | |
| 15:14 | tcohen | maybe the translation process got trucated/broken |
| 15:15 | you should try another language | |
| 15:16 | and probably restart all the things | |
| 15:16 | cait | i had it happen that it would stop coyping files at some point and not finish |
| 15:16 | an di think opac gets run after intranet ... so it could be | |
| 15:16 | enkidu: i'd rerun the install command with -v | |
| 15:17 | enkidu | Let me try de-DE and then -v again. |
| 15:18 | cait | de-DE shoudl work! *hopes* |
| 15:18 | funily i am jsut trying to debug why detail views in french are broken for us.... same boat | |
| 15:19 | enkidu | And it worked, what is funny that, after installing de-DE, tr-TR also become visible. O:-) |
| 15:19 | cait | murphy... |
| 15:20 | tcohen | we should update the wiki |
| 15:21 | * First run koha-translate --install de-DE | |
| 15:21 | * The repeat the command for your prefered language | |
| 15:21 | cait | hm plack-err-log not being helpful: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]26004&oldid=24314 |
| 15:22 | oh | |
| 15:22 | not that link | |
| 15:22 | compilation error: file /home/vagrant/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/fr-FR/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl element text | |
| 15:22 | xsltParseTemplateContent: xslt:text content problem | |
| 15:22 | not giving me a line or anything :( | |
| 15:26 | could it be the non-breaking space ? | |
| 15:27 | ? | |
| 15:28 | caroline | How/when is AuthoritySeparator used? Is it when you don't use XSLT? I chaged it to "-a-a-" just to see where it was used and I can't find it |
| 15:29 | cait | caroline: trying to have a look |
| 15:30 | hm looks like some of the cataloguing plugins use it | |
| 15:30 | but not the xslt | |
| 15:31 | and GetMarcSubjects | |
| 15:31 | enkidu | tcohen: * First run koha-translate --install de-DE , hehe I liked this |
| 15:31 | cait | maybe in the cart views and emails |
| 15:31 | tcohen | cait I think it is non-XSLT view |
| 15:31 | enkidu hehe | |
| 15:32 | cait | update: it was the &bnsp; |
| 15:32 | i think the 18.11 po didn't get updated to fix this | |
| 15:32 | i removed replaced them and now i got a french detail page again | |
| 15:32 | caroline | cait: indeed, in the cart, when you click on "more details" |
| 15:33 | cait | these plces use the really old methods from Biblio |
| 15:33 | caroline | It looks terrible haha! " Cat owners -a-a-United States -a-a-Biography. " |
| 15:34 | oleonard | Sounds like someone hesitantly giving the answer in class |
| 15:34 | caroline | But it's what I thought, the description is not right |
| 15:34 | Rn the description is "Separate multiple displayed authors, series or subjects with" | |
| 15:35 | But it's not separating multiple subjects, it's separating the head and the subdivisions | |
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| 16:07 | tuxayo | caroline: oleonard «I thought the person who pushed it to oldoldstable marked it as resolved fixed» https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Update_bugzilla_2 |
| 16:07 | caroline | It says skip it, so I guess no one does it |
| 16:07 | tuxayo | 🤷 |
| 16:08 | caroline | And it falls on the shoulders of cait and rangi to clean up every once in a while |
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| 16:08 | caroline | I'm sure there's a way to prevent emails from being sent for resolved fixed if that's the only issue |
| 16:09 | y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard | |
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| 16:13 | tuxayo | cait: «i think the 18.11 po didn't get updated to fix this» |
| 16:13 | Is it related to this? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lease_maintenance | |
| 16:13 | «You must check the po files for errors» | |
| 16:17 | @quote add caroline : y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard | |
| 16:17 | huginn | tuxayo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 16:19 | tuxayo | @quote add caroline : y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard |
| 16:19 | huginn | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. Quote #341 added. |
| 16:19 | tuxayo | yes! |
| 16:19 | cait | tuxayo: not sure that the tool would catch it |
| 16:19 | it#s not a mistake in the po | |
| 16:19 | the mistake is that it's used to translate to xslt... and that doesn't work in the specific case | |
| 16:20 | so the po file check does most likely not highlight the mistake | |
| 16:20 | tuxayo | right! |
| 16:20 | cait | i thought I had seen this come up recenlty, but 18.11 is end of life - po files even hidden in po |
| 16:20 | um i mean the version is hidden on translate.koha-communtiy.org because it's so old | |
| 16:21 | i fixed it locally, as there are no new versions for this | |
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| 17:17 | cait | kidclamp: why do I get a birthday surprise on your birthday? bug 17661 - hope to test soon! |
| 17:17 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17661 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Differences in field ending (whitespace, punctuation) cause duplicate facets |
| 17:17 | kidclamp | heh, birthday present to myself to work on things i like ;-) |
| 17:19 | lari | has anyone tested koha with chromium edge? does it work? we have a bit of sticky situation here, our client needs support for chromium edge but i suppose whatever path M$ wants to take in the future is not in our hands |
| 17:21 | oleonard | lari I certainly hope that it being chromium-based will mean it will have fewer quirks |
| 17:22 | I guess that goes without saying | |
| 17:23 | tuxayo | lari: I wouldn't worry much. chromium edge is a path closer to Firefox and Chromium/Chrome than IE 11 and Edge Legacy |
| 17:24 | tcohen | there's a reason for a chromium-based successor of the old IE |
| 17:25 | an economical one. and I guess they will try to be as compatible as possible regarding page rendering | |
| 17:26 | tuxayo | Yes, we shouldn't expect Microsoft diverging from what Chromium is displaying. |
| 17:28 | lari | i suppose so. either way the marriage of M$ and governmental instances give me the creeps :) |
| 17:28 | tuxayo | ^^ |
| 17:29 | We should worry about whatever path Google want's to take in the future is not in our hands. | |
| 17:29 | Edge getting based on Chromium isn't a good news in that regard. | |
| 17:31 | tcohen | lari absolutely :-D |
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| 18:55 | wizzyrea | hi, can anyone think of a reason why a zebra indexed catalogue would not be able to limit on location or ccode? |
| 19:05 | oleonard-away | #koha is 0 for 2 on helping wizzyrea today |
| 19:08 | * tcohen | is still thinking |
| 19:24 | wizzyrea | it's got ICU |
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| 21:14 | aleisha_ | hello |
| 21:20 | caroline | hi aleisha_! |
| 21:25 | aleisha_ | hi caroline :) |
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| 23:42 | oleonard-away | The "FailedLoginAttempts" preference doesn't seem to be working for me at all... |
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