IRC log for #koha, 2020-07-07

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06:38 reiveune hello
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07:02 alex_a Bonjour
07:02 wahanui hi, alex_a
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07:14 cait hm lots of cait activity
07:15 good morning #koha!
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07:33 ashimema mornin'
07:36 cait morning ashimema!
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08:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #24: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D10/24/
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09:49 nlegrand gut morgn! Vos makht ir?
09:52 cait good morning nlegrand
09:52 nlegrand a good day cait!
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11:01 tcohen https://www.facebook.com/102.3[…]/563873980911250/
11:01 ha, wrong link
11:01 https://www.zdnet.com/article/[…]list-terminology/
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11:25 TimothyAlexis I am checking 20.05.x for WCAG compliance.
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11:30 mtj hi tcohen, Joubu.. the ttf-dejavu bug tested ok
11:31 TimothyAlexis Every library in Sweden is required to comply to this checklist:
11:31 https://webbriktlinjer.se/wcag/?checklista
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11:32 TimothyAlexis R98 states that tables require a heading (thead or caption)
11:36 I found 144 files with code for tables that are without both caption and thead. 14 in OPAC, 130 in Intranet.
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11:54 TimothyAlexis I want to make sure that the bug report I supply is correct this time.
12:00 This is a EU-directive follows through as Swedish law on September 23:rd 2020. By then, we need all of Koha to be WCAG 2.1 compliant.
12:02 ashimema I'm working a fair bit on accessibility of late.. but I'm not sure we're aiming as high
12:02 be nice to see more work going on there..
12:03 TimothyAlexis I know there are many who could be involved to contribute.
12:03 ashimema I only have funding to get us up to UK Gov requirements at the OPAC level.. which is a selected list of A, AA and AAA levels
12:03 with a much tighter deadline than the Euro compliance is
12:03 TimothyAlexis At least from Sweden.
12:03 ashimema I believe they're also intending to hit the staff client.. but later on..
12:04 for the OPAC we have an incredibly detailed report.. the staff side is still being assessed
12:06 TimothyAlexis I'm new to Koha since April, when I was employed at Lund University Library.
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12:08 TimothyAlexis I think there is a need for a coordinated effort towards WCAG 2.1 compliance.
12:10 So that there is cooperation towards that goal.
12:13 In Sweden we have something called "Svenska Kohanätverket" (The Swedish Koha Network). We have a Slack community where there's a newly created channel called #Tillgänglighet (Accessibility).
12:13 Which currently holds 29 members.
12:13 ashimema excellent
12:13 wahanui darn tootin' it is.
12:17 TimothyAlexis I think this requires cooperation on a larger scale. Is there such an opportunity available today?
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12:22 TimothyAlexis I need to go away from the keyboard for some hours. I will post this in the Slack channel and opt for more to be involved.
12:23 When I'm back.
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12:28 tcohen TimothyAlexis you should write a plan, on the Wiki and probably propose some joint action on koha-devel
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13:22 oleonard How long after something has been marked "pushed to oldoldstable" should we be concerned about why it isn't marked "resolved fixed?"
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13:24 cait hm i think i only pick things at least 3 months old... maybe could add another thing to check for pushed oldoldstable next time?
13:24 well 3 months old at the time we do the bug mass edit... so it could be older at some point
13:24 6 months?
13:25 caroline I thought the person who pushed it to oldoldstable marked it as resolved fixed
13:25 oleonard caroline: Me too
13:25 cait, it's something you do manually?
13:26 cait yes, it#s not a cron, i meet with rangi, he turns off email and we do batch edits
13:26 it's written up on the wiki
13:26 https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]jor_release_tasks
13:28 oleonard Thanks cait
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13:29 * ashimema wanted to do it more thoroughly as part of releaseing
13:29 ashimema but was told we couldn't do it as it would spam too many people
13:29 I even have the scripts ready to go
13:29 cait i thin the issue is turning off the mail
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13:35 ashimema yup
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13:44 ashimema can you disable a notice somehow..
13:44 other than setting it blank?
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13:45 cait you'd have to ask chris how he does it
13:45 it's either a switch in bugzilla or he turns it off server side
13:45 ashimema ooh..
13:45 I meant in Koha
13:45 cait oh!
13:45 which oneß
13:45 ?
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13:46 Null404 hello everyone
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13:46 ashimema any
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13:46 * ashimema is getting the YASP (Yet Another System Preference) twitch with this ILL bug ;)
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13:48 Null404 Is the in KOHA an option to limit fee amount ? For expample: after 200$ KOHA don't count bigger fee
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14:21 oleonard Null404 I think  MaxFine is the pref you want
14:21 Null404 or look at the Circulation and Fine rules to define more specific settings
14:21 cait yes, there is global and per rule ones
14:22 oleonard Null404 look for "Overdue fines cap" in the circulation rule options
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14:37 wizzyrea hallo friends, is there a known problem with mana? we've been getting 502 errors
14:39 * oleonard waves to wizzyrea in a sympathetic but unhelpful way
14:44 tcohen we need to kill MaxFine :-D
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14:46 caroline It's pretty much half dead already... :/ I've had several complaints from clients
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14:47 tcohen exactly, we now have a new DB table to properly handle the global > specific setting
14:51 cait kidclamp++ thx for the fail qa :)
14:51 oleonard++ thx for the sign-off
14:51 tcohen: no we don't
14:51 kidclamp hah
14:52 cait (kill MaxFine)
14:54 tcohen: moving it would beok
14:54 * tcohen meant that
14:55 * cait sends cookies
15:00 * tcohen always acccepts cookies
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15:05 reiveune bye
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15:09 enkidu Hi all, does anyone got a problem like this? after upgrade Koha 20.05.01 by apt-get upgrade koha-common, local opac languaged missed we cannot see from opaclanguages from system preferences, but there is in language system pref.
15:10 cait so it's in language but not in opaclanguage?
15:10 could the language have not been completely installed? like was there an error maybe?
15:12 enkidu Yes cait, I've checked with server and update the language
15:12 drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 4096 Tem  7 15:02 tr-TR
15:13 we have language files under /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/bootstrap
15:14 But we cannot select in the system preferences.
15:14 tcohen maybe the translation process got trucated/broken
15:15 you should try another language
15:16 and probably restart all the things
15:16 cait i had it happen that it would stop coyping files at some point and not finish
15:16 an di think opac gets run after intranet ... so it could be
15:16 enkidu: i'd rerun the install command with -v
15:17 enkidu Let me try de-DE and then -v again.
15:18 cait de-DE shoudl work! *hopes*
15:18 funily i am jsut trying to debug why detail views in french are broken for us.... same boat
15:19 enkidu And it worked, what is funny that, after installing de-DE, tr-TR also become visible. O:-)
15:19 cait murphy...
15:20 tcohen we should update the wiki
15:21 * First run koha-translate --install de-DE
15:21 * The repeat the command for your prefered language
15:21 cait hm plack-err-log not being helpful: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]26004&oldid=24314
15:22 oh
15:22 not that link
15:22 compilation error: file /home/vagrant/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/b​ootstrap/fr-FR/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl element text
15:22 xsltParseTemplateContent: xslt:text content problem
15:22 not giving me a line or anything :(
15:26 could it be the non-breaking space ?
15:27  ?
15:28 caroline How/when is AuthoritySeparator used? Is it when you don't use XSLT? I chaged it to "-a-a-" just to see where it was used and I can't find it
15:29 cait caroline: trying to have a look
15:30 hm looks like some of the cataloguing plugins use it
15:30 but not the xslt
15:31 and GetMarcSubjects
15:31 enkidu tcohen: * First run koha-translate --install de-DE , hehe I liked this
15:31 cait maybe in the cart views and emails
15:31 tcohen cait I think it is non-XSLT view
15:31 enkidu hehe
15:32 cait update: it was the &bnsp;
15:32 i think the 18.11 po didn't get updated to fix this
15:32 i removed replaced them and now i got a french detail page again
15:32 caroline cait: indeed, in the cart, when you click on "more details"
15:33 cait these plces use the really old methods from Biblio
15:33 caroline It looks terrible haha! " Cat owners -a-a-United States -a-a-Biography. "
15:34 oleonard Sounds like someone hesitantly giving the answer in class
15:34 caroline But it's what I thought, the description is not right
15:34 Rn the description is "Separate multiple displayed authors, series or subjects with"
15:35 But it's not separating multiple subjects, it's separating the head and the subdivisions
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16:07 tuxayo caroline: oleonard «I thought the person who pushed it to oldoldstable marked it as resolved fixed» https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Update_bugzilla_2
16:07 caroline It says skip it, so I guess no one does it
16:07 tuxayo 🤷
16:08 caroline And it falls on the shoulders of cait and rangi to clean up every once in a while
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16:08 caroline I'm sure there's a way to prevent emails from being sent for resolved fixed if that's the only issue
16:09 y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard
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16:13 tuxayo cait: «i think the 18.11 po didn't get updated to fix this»
16:13 Is it related to this? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lease_maintenance
16:13 «You must check the po files for errors»
16:17 @quote add caroline : y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard
16:17 huginn tuxayo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
16:19 tuxayo @quote add caroline : y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard
16:19 huginn tuxayo: The operation succeeded.  Quote #341 added.
16:19 tuxayo yes!
16:19 cait tuxayo: not sure that the tool would catch it
16:19 it#s not a mistake in the po
16:19 the mistake is that it's used to translate to xslt... and that doesn't work in the specific case
16:20 so the po file check does most likely not highlight the mistake
16:20 tuxayo right!
16:20 cait i thought I had seen this come up recenlty, but 18.11 is end of life - po files even hidden in po
16:20 um i mean the version is hidden on translate.koha-communtiy.org because it's so old
16:21 i fixed it locally, as there are no new versions for this
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17:17 cait kidclamp: why do I get a birthday surprise on your birthday? bug 17661 - hope to test soon!
17:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17661 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Differences in field ending (whitespace, punctuation) cause duplicate facets
17:17 kidclamp heh, birthday present to myself to work on things i like ;-)
17:19 lari has anyone tested koha with chromium edge? does it work? we have a bit of sticky situation here, our client needs support for chromium edge but i suppose whatever path M$ wants to take in the future is not in our hands
17:21 oleonard lari I certainly hope that it being chromium-based will mean it will have fewer quirks
17:22 I guess that goes without saying
17:23 tuxayo lari: I wouldn't worry much. chromium edge is a path closer to Firefox and Chromium/Chrome than IE 11 and Edge Legacy
17:24 tcohen there's a reason for a chromium-based successor of the old IE
17:25 an economical one. and I guess they will try to be as compatible as possible regarding page rendering
17:26 tuxayo Yes, we shouldn't expect Microsoft diverging from what Chromium is displaying.
17:28 lari i suppose so. either way the marriage of M$ and governmental instances give me the creeps :)
17:28 tuxayo ^^
17:29 We should worry about whatever path Google want's to take in the future is not in our hands.
17:29 Edge getting based on Chromium isn't a good news in that regard.
17:31 tcohen lari absolutely :-D
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18:55 wizzyrea hi, can anyone think of a reason why a zebra indexed catalogue would not be able to limit on location or ccode?
19:05 oleonard-away #koha is 0 for 2 on helping wizzyrea today
19:08 * tcohen is still thinking
19:24 wizzyrea it's got ICU
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21:14 aleisha_ hello
21:20 caroline hi aleisha_!
21:25 aleisha_ hi caroline :)
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23:42 oleonard-away The "FailedLoginAttempts" preference doesn't seem to be working for me at all...
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