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| 03:49 | dcook | aleisha: Are you around still? |
| 03:49 | aleisha | hi dcook |
| 03:50 | dcook | heya |
| 03:50 | aleisha | whats up |
| 03:50 | dcook | I just remembered you wanted to ask me a question a while ago |
| 03:50 | Did you ask it in the end? | |
| 03:50 | aleisha | oh yes i did! |
| 03:50 | i cant remember what the question is anymore but i feel like you answered it | |
| 03:50 | dcook | Oh good. Haha. I wasn't sure and didn't mean to leave you hanging |
| 03:50 | The day you got in touch I got super busy | |
| 03:50 | aleisha | heh i appreciate the follow-up! |
| 03:51 | totally fine, i think it was about a bug i was looking at backporting | |
| 03:51 | for 19.11.x | |
| 03:51 | dcook | Ok yeah that makes sense |
| 03:51 | And I think Tomas helped clear that one up | |
| 03:51 | aleisha | yes someone did! :) |
| 03:51 | dcook | It's great having you maintain 19.11.x :D |
| 03:51 | Do you do it all in your free time or do you get work time for it too? | |
| 03:52 | aleisha | thank you i am learning a lot! very lucky to be able to do it in work time :) |
| 03:53 | dcook | Oh nice! |
| 03:53 | I should probably focus on some things now but glad I was able to get in touch | |
| 03:53 | I'm hoping by the time Kohacon20 comes around that I'm able to come over to Wellington and actually meet you. I feel like you've been working on Koha for quite a long time now, yeah? | |
| 03:53 | Still can't believe I didn't meet wizzyrea while she was in NZ O_O | |
| 03:54 | aleisha | yes ive been around for a little while now dcook, it would be awesome to finally meet you! |
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| 03:54 | dcook | The feeling is mutual :) |
| 03:55 | I occasionally see some tweets from you as well. Seems like you're up to all sorts of great things over there | |
| 03:56 | aleisha | heh i do like to keep busy |
| 04:21 | dcook | I want to say I know the feeling but I'm less busy than I think I am |
| 04:21 | Going to leave this here for people: https://www.perl.com/article/announcing-perl-7/ | |
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| 06:43 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 06:43 | wahanui | que tal, alex_a |
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| 06:49 | fridolin | hi dear comunity |
| 06:50 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 07:24 | Joubu | @later tell oleonard Hi Owen, you removed 5229 from the "depends on" list of 12561, was it expected? |
| 07:24 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 08:13 | nlegrand | ahlan |
| 08:23 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 08:24 | nlegrand | o/ magnuse! |
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| 09:04 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #334: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/334/ |
| 09:07 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: DBRev 20.06.00.003 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7cd9b940ea586e659> |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: (follow-up) UI - Use "Table settings" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c04d962d5d94c4c6e> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: Rename 'Columns settings' with 'Tables settings' on the UI <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3909c4917c60ee7ed> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: Fix some QA failures <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cd84525d7b4d2bb56> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24159: (QA follow-up) Make terminology consistent <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dfc49fb52e9c5015c> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24159: Fix shift in the header <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9f45002209fc17146> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24159: Fix one occurrence in updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a9964b5b451dcc6af> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24159: Use days_mode circ rule to calculate the dropbox date <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]58cbcc3be5da63f47> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24159: Set days_mode according to circ rules in 3 other places <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8eeda5c3b417bf83f> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24159: Add new tests for get_useDaysMode_effective_value <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ce966ab458dade248> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24159: Adjust tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]677d8583e42d1e803> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24159: Add UI changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da683f7627e64e00e> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24159: Throw an exception if days_mode option is not given when needed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2cfbd01a262220aef> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: Fix set sort order to the first column <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b336cbd68828027d8> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: Add columns_settings.yml changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f9a4d1193451deac5> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: Adjust other tables in the yml file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]12b23868f82776b8c> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: Make sort order and number of items to display configurable (basket page) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53d3f447f10e8a48c> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: move ColumnsSettings to TablesSettings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8e718334a6bd7e141> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: DBIC changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1009662d2dddeb060> | |
| 09:07 | News from kohagit: Bug 24156: DB changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8311e03df05f9e8f2> | |
| 09:30 | ashimema | ooh... how have I not noticed the inconsistency between using `COMMENT="this field is for X"` vs `-- this field is for X` in our kohastructure file before ? |
| 09:32 | cait2 | I did not either? |
| 09:32 | i think there is even a coding guildeline about that | |
| 09:32 | ashimema | I noticed whilst rescuing bug 19036 |
| 09:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Number payment receipts / payment slips |
| 09:33 | ashimema | oh rally |
| 09:33 | * ashimema | goes to look |
| 09:33 | ashimema | interesting.. |
| 09:34 | we actually advocate the use of `-- coment` syntax | |
| 09:34 | I've never failed anything for not having that.. though I do like it when people add it | |
| 09:34 | seems that relates to shemaspy being able to read them | |
| 09:34 | however.. I just learnt that dbicdump reads the other form when creating POD for Schema classes.. that could be usefull too | |
| 09:35 | * ashimema | adds topic to dev meeting |
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| 09:55 | Joubu | awesome... |
| 09:55 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #355: FAILURE in 15 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/355/ |
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| 09:57 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 09:57 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 09:57 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1376: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1376/ |
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| 10:01 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen almost all last builds failed because run on docker 2, which does not have more disk space. I tried apt clean, autoclean, etc. then docker prune but no luck |
| 10:01 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:01 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U20 build #25: SUCCESS in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U20/25/ |
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| 10:14 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen did you know that a new job was enqueued when the current one failed? Is it something new? |
| 10:14 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:37 | Joubu | @later tell fridolin Do you think you will have time to submit a patch for 25770? |
| 10:37 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:40 | oleonard | o/ |
| 10:40 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #15: NOW UNSTABLE in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ster_D10_Deps/15/ |
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| 10:48 | oleonard | Joubu: Regarding Bug 5229, I think Bug 25871 might serve as a duplicate. Perhaps I was premature in removing it until I get more feedback on 25871. |
| 10:48 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5229 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPACItemsResultsDisplay preference does not work with XSLT results |
| 10:48 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25871 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add "only library" to OpacItemLocation options | |
| 10:49 | Joubu | oleonard: yes I think it makes to keep the direct link between those two |
| 10:50 | And I'd love to see it won't fix with the pref removed :) | |
| 10:50 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #283: STILL FAILING in 15 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/283/ |
| 10:51 | Joubu | @later tell tcohen I disconnected docker 2 |
| 10:51 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:51 | oleonard | Do we wait to remove OPACItemsResultsDisplay until the non-XSLT view is officially obsolete, i.e. removed as an option in preferences? |
| 10:53 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 10:53 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 10:53 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D11 build #23: FIXED in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D11/23/ |
| 10:55 | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #828: STILL FAILING in 1 min 52 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/828/ | |
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| 10:56 | Joubu | oleonard: if we have 11426 and 25871 ready for 20.11 we could remove the non-XSLT and the pref I'd say |
| 10:56 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #829: STILL FAILING in 8.6 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/829/ |
| 10:57 | Joubu | mtj: did you reconnect docker 2? |
| 11:02 | mtj | hi Joubu.. no, not me |
| 11:03 | Jun 25, 2020 10:57:39 AM - Disconnected by joubu | |
| 11:07 | ashimema | +1 to removal of xslt |
| 11:07 | s/xslt/non-xslt/ | |
| 11:07 | Joubu | mtj: yes, I had to disconnect it twice |
| 11:08 | there are ghosts there | |
| 11:09 | oleonard | ashimema: remove xslt, remove non-xslt, remove it all. All books are invisible now |
| 11:09 | ashimema | haha.. lol |
| 11:09 | Joubu | we could replace everything with a csv view |
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| 11:19 | oleonard | welp, the RM said it, it must be law. CSV all the things. |
| 11:19 | ashimema | lol |
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| 11:37 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 11:37 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 11:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #358: FIXED in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/358/ |
| 11:45 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 11:45 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 11:45 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #284: FIXED in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/284/ |
| 11:46 | magnuse | or TT all the things - i would prefer that over xslt, personally |
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| 12:24 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 12:24 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 12:38 | tcohen | bomjour |
| 12:40 | tuxayo | o/ |
| 12:40 | *bonjour | |
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| 13:09 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 13:09 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 13:54 | talljoy | morning |
| 13:54 | caroline | hi talljoy! |
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| 13:57 | talljoy | hi caroline! |
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| 14:53 | nugged | ashimema: thanks for such massive approvals! :)... we will bring more, ... now just distracted for this week by "The Perl Conference" which is "Conference in the Cloud" nowadays :), not just YAPC ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 14:53 | ashimema | no worries |
| 14:53 | ooh.. cool | |
| 14:54 | hadn't reality TPC had gone cloud.. nice | |
| 14:56 | nugged | https://tpc20cic.sched.com/ – just now |
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| 14:56 | nugged | yesterday + tomorrow. Archives of talks here: https://www.youtube.com/c/YAPCNA/featured |
| 14:57 | they announced Perl 7 idea :P... so not just spaces+tabs mix in our codebase will be the problem soon :) (joking, but ... :) )... Can I post my yesterday's summary about talks I watched for this Koha community here? | |
| 14:59 | talljoy | ashimema i was wondering if you had information on the accountlines issue i mentioned last night. I'm cleaning up lost fines/offset information but am not sure what the use cases are that i need to NOT remove when i see it. |
| 15:00 | i suspect it is where a lost fine is in the offsets table with a writeoff and that writeoff is only used once. All the cases i'm cleaning now show a single writeoff being applied to two things,. once positive, once negative | |
| 15:02 | ashimema | Deffo, go for it nugged.. I'm sure people here would be interesting in summaries |
| 15:03 | tallboy, yes I think that's the use case.. it's to convert where a lost + returned and refunded was only one line.. it becomes the lost charge plus the write-off credit and links via offsets. It for reports more than anything | |
| 15:04 | Apologies it hit your partner's so hard and came as a surprise. | |
| 15:04 | talljoy | the silver lining is that it doesn't affect balances. that's amazingly great. |
| 15:05 | ashimema | We're only just doing our first 19.11 upgrades here so haven't really had any issues yet. |
| 15:05 | talljoy | but some partners do like 'tidy' data. and we either have to explain it as upgrades or clean it out so they are not triggered by it. |
| 15:05 | we also found an issue of manual invoices where the code had spaces causing real problems. | |
| 15:05 | we turned all LOST fines into LOST CARD fines. | |
| 15:05 | ashimema | Yeah.. I worked hard to make sure the final figures still added up properly.. it was really to just tray and improve the clarity of what's happens in the refund cases. |
| 15:06 | talljoy | yes, our educators are thrilled that koha now treats credits like credits and debits like debits and not crossing the two types! |
| 15:06 | it is an improvement going forward, for sure | |
| 15:07 | ashimema | Ooh, yeah.. manual invoices got a but horrible to try and keep clean.. deffo feedback anything there.. I'll happily try to revisit that if we think there's any way to make it a nicer migration |
| 15:07 | talljoy | take a look at the code, substr(code,1,5) update statement. that's what did us in where partners had 'bad codes' (codes with spaces that look like real codes) |
| 15:08 | also the field mappings table was problematic for us. | |
| 15:08 | ashimema | Glad you managed to work out a way to appease the end users. 😀 |
| 15:08 | Ah.. fields mappings wasn't one I had a hand in.. phew | |
| 15:08 | talljoy | we removed that section from the updatedatabase. we drop the table, but are not moving field mappings into the frameworks. Folks had a lot of 'cruft' in that fieldmappings table that created a lot of 'weirdness' in frameworks. |
| 15:09 | keep an eye out for that one. | |
| 15:09 | our other gotchas are system level. the z3950 responder changed and was unusable til patched | |
| 15:10 | and we are still sorting out how to reconfigure the new juvenile2adult cron. | |
| 15:10 | otherwise, just normal bugs. :D | |
| 15:19 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu I'm updating the docker2 node on jenkins |
| 15:19 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:21 | nugged | [semi-offtopic] Perl Conference in the Cloud: day 1 summary (my own impressions): |
| 15:21 | *** Mojolicious "intro again and get latest best practises in short" (async/await): | |
| 15:21 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5xS2NcMzJU | |
| 15:21 | *** Some CyberSecurity tasks to keep in mind, always good to review: | |
| 15:21 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMnPoW_uek | |
| 15:21 | *** 30 years of web how it transformed (and how in the middle Koha is 🙂 lol): | |
| 15:21 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXhosJLAeUs | |
| 15:21 | *** And this one for inspiration (really 🙂 , she so bright in that): | |
| 15:21 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzVxHk-RwN4 | |
| 15:21 | *** AND..... Perl 7 they said O_o: | |
| 15:21 | this article from brian d foy: https://www.perl.com/article/announcing-perl-7/ | |
| 15:21 | and vids from yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wPMh-3qYJM | |
| 15:21 | There more from P7 from 48th minute but before all was intro+arguments "why", by SawyerX | |
| 15:21 | Yep, this Perl 7 topic... and our accumulated bugzilla patches stream codebase not combines together well... As Joubu once explained for me-being-noob-and-impatient, I can't 💣 tidify all them all at once, we even can't get rid of of tabs/spaces mix... but... | |
| 15:21 | But maybe one day :)... | |
| 15:21 | * nugged | did it :) |
| 15:23 | ashimema | :) |
| 15:23 | looking good | |
| 15:23 | * ashimema | would love to do a codebase wise tidy one day.. but alas a project of this scale with so many contributors and so many open bugs at any one time |
| 15:23 | ashimema | that's not at all trivial |
| 15:24 | merge conflicts in literally thousands of peoples patches would ensue | |
| 15:25 | nugged | .. and backports, and forks. So yes, seems "use Modern::Perl;" will be our header for long time further. Yep. So – just impressions above ^_^ |
| 15:26 | ashimema | indeed |
| 15:26 | I did just QA a pretty extensive patch to bring our existing code upto our own perlcritic policies (except tabs vs spaces).. | |
| 15:27 | that'll be a nice one to see pushed | |
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| 15:42 | tcohen | @later tell Joubu is it on purpose that launching KTD pulls from the QA and misc4dev repos? That's shouldn't be the behaviour as it predates the option to run KTD offline |
| 15:42 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:49 | tcohen | async/await++ |
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| 16:08 | tuxayo | Does anyone know a mailing list of Pakistani Koha users? |
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| 16:11 | tuxayo | Even without a mailing list, there is still kohapakistan.org |
| 16:11 | * tuxayo | searches an Urdu speaker to fix something that caused an error in the release process. |
| 16:12 | caroline | hum... I have the business card of one pakistani koha company, but it's in my desk drawer at work... |
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| 16:14 | nlegrand | tuxayo: https://www.bulac.fr/decouvrir[…]e/domaine-ourdou/ |
| 16:15 | tuxayo: tell Bedar I told you to ask him. | |
| 16:15 | tuxayo: you have his address on the page. | |
| 16:15 | caroline | This is the person I met in Portland : https://www.linkedin.com/in/sh[…]al-khan-13647248/ |
| 16:16 | nlegrand | He does not use Koha in Urdu though. |
| 16:16 | tuxayo | Thanks nlegrand and caroline :D |
| 16:16 | caroline | He is very engaged in the Pakistani Koha community |
| 16:16 | nlegrand | ho |
| 16:16 | Caroline's link must be better! | |
| 16:16 | Bedar is very nice but not so engaged in Koha :). | |
| 16:17 | caroline | yeah, there isn't his email address though... If you have a linkedin account, you can probably message him through there |
| 16:18 | nlegrand | https://kohapakistan.org/ |
| 16:18 | tuxayo | I'll contact them if the emails I'll sent to the koha-translate and general koha lists don't find their way to Urdu Speakers ^^ |
| 16:18 | nlegrand | https://kohapakistan.org/contact-us/ |
| 16:19 | tuxayo | nlegrand: yeah, the Koha Pakistan contact page was also in the backup plan. |
| 16:21 | ashimema | anyone ever seen `Template process failed: undef error - DBIC result _type isn't of the _type Biblio at /home/martin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/lateorders.tt line 105.` |
| 16:21 | bit baffled by it | |
| 16:22 | tuxayo | I wonder how many languages can be spoken or understood among staff of BULAC ^^ |
| 16:22 | It might be the perfect place for time travelers from the past or future to arrive! | |
| 16:23 | ashimema: I didn't know there was type checking in the templates | |
| 16:24 | ashimema | it's thrown from a Koha::Object.. which you can pass to templates |
| 16:24 | looks to be a relation traversal failing | |
| 16:24 | but I'm currently failing to understand why | |
| 16:27 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U20 build #29: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_U20/29/ |
| 16:34 | nlegrand | tuxayo: I think about 60 at the same time, because it's more or less the staff we have for languages. |
| 16:35 | tuxayo: some knows a lot of languages, our polish colleague speaks at least Polish, Slovak, Czech, Sorab, Russian, German, a bit of Yiddish... | |
| 16:36 | tuxayo | ^^ |
| 16:37 | nlegrand | Sadely we treat more languages than we have staff for it. Some languages have someone just a bit here and there, like Kurdish, Hebrew, Georgian, Uzbek... |
| 16:39 | nugged | I have Ukrainian and Russian on professional level here (myself) + Slava from my trainees also have Polish in addition... in a case some questions/ideas. |
| 16:50 | tuxayo | nlegrand: I imagine replacing someone leaving must often be hard. |
| 16:52 | nugged: I'll remember that for future errors in .po files ;) | |
| 16:52 | nugged | ok |
| 16:53 | tuxayo | nugged: thanks BTW for keeping us up with Perl news |
| 16:54 | * nugged | tracking The Conference in the Cloud: day 2. Will bring the summary. |
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| 17:26 | * cait | waves |
| 17:26 | caroline | hi cait |
| 17:26 | cait | hi caroline! :) |
| 17:46 | caroline | do y'all think it would be useful to have a contact list for specific languages? Kind of like https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]con10_Translators |
| 17:46 | tuxayo | nugged: If one of your trainees wants to know more about Koha translation: |
| 17:46 | I have sent a link with a few things to fix in the Polish translation to the general koha list and koha-translation | |
| 17:46 | Though the Polish translation seems to be active so I have no worries about this to be fixed | |
| 17:47 | caroline: Maybe, because I had to go to Pootle to find the latest contributor and also look inside the .po files. | |
| 17:48 | The biggest issue it that Pootle doesn't keep for long the last contributors. That would help a lot. | |
| 17:49 | Just having a translation history of a least the last two years would allow to find who could come back to translating. | |
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| 18:21 | tcohen | @seen kohaputti |
| 18:21 | huginn | tcohen: kohaputti was last seen in #koha 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, 43 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <kohaputti> if the library has the books in transfer state but in a room accessible for patrons then some of the patrons might go pick up those books and checkout them even though they were supposed to be transferred to another branch |
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| 18:36 | nlegrand | tuxayo: it's rather easy to find PhD students needing money. Sadly. |
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| 18:50 | caroline | Does a plain 20.05 come with basic credit and debit types? |
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| 18:52 | cc_ | hi |
| 18:52 | caroline | ok found 'em! |
| 18:52 | hi cc_ | |
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| 19:12 | cc_ | thank @caroline |
| 19:12 | hello I have a problem since I updated to version 19.11.6 after performing a search in staff I select a record but this tells me that it does not exist. but looking at the url is not using the biblionumer. https://snipboard.io/tlyJew.jpg but the recor | |
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| 19:13 | caroline | Sounds like an indexing problem |
| 19:14 | cc_ | I have already done a reindex and look for n problems, this problem is when selecting a record. |
| 19:15 | says that does not exist | |
| 19:15 | tcohen | cc_ what if you switch to the english interface? |
| 19:17 | cc_ | https://snipboard.io/PriaSG.jpg |
| 19:19 | tcohen | I would like the same screenshot you took for the spanish one |
| 19:19 | cc_ | @tcohen same.. |
| 19:19 | huginn | cc_: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 19:19 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 19:20 | caroline | cc_: I think tcohen wants this one in English https://snipboard.io/tlyJew.jpg |
| 19:25 | cc_ | apparently you are omitting the biblionumber in the url. this is a bug? |
| 19:26 | We updated from version 19.11.4 to 19.11.6 and the problem started. | |
| 19:27 | tcohen | that would be a bug |
| 19:27 | I'm trying to reproduce on my environment | |
| 19:40 | cc_ | @tcohen this is secuence complete in video shorturl.at/otM68 |
| 19:40 | huginn | cc_: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
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| 19:44 | tcohen | cc_ weird, I was just testing on a 19.11.06 site |
| 19:44 | that doesn't have the issue | |
| 19:46 | cc_ | I did the test in a fresh installation. I moved the DB and the same thing happened. |
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| 19:59 | cait | cc_: you need to set the 999$c or whatever your biblionumber is mapped to to visible int he frameworks |
| 19:59 | it's a known thing | |
| 19:59 | let me find the bug report | |
| 20:00 | bug 25686 | |
| 20:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25686 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Title in the catalogue search result doesn't open the full (normal) record display |
| 20:03 | cait | tcohen: i think we caused that with our work in the hidden stuff |
| 20:03 | tcohen | ah |
| 20:03 | cait | indirectly - works too well |
| 20:03 | tcohen | thanks phew |
| 20:04 | did we file a bug for the deny_list implementation on ViewPolicy? | |
| 20:04 | cait | ? |
| 20:04 | tcohen | so 999 isn't hidden no matter what policy set on the fw |
| 20:05 | cait | 3 people have run inot it and reported by now - not sure why 999 would ever be hidden, but i guess it's an indicator we need to fix it |
| 20:05 | i think there is a linked bug | |
| 20:05 | ah, maybe only discussion on the bug itself | |
| 20:06 | we could reopne bug 25826 that i had closed dpulicate - probably imssing hte other was closed as well | |
| 20:06 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25826 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, All results link to 404 in staff and intranet (SOMETIMES) |
| 20:12 | cait | bug 25826 |
| 20:12 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25826 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Hiding biblionumber in the frameworks breaks links in result list |
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| 20:22 | cc_ | so it's a bug |
| 20:23 | tcohen | technically, it is a wrong config on your frameworks, but Koha shouldn't allow you to make that mistake or should report it somewhere |
| 20:25 | cc_ | i can update to koha 19.11 to koha 20.05 but is installing the beta version: / Upgrade to 20.05.00.000 done [20:26:09]: 20.05.00 alpha release apparently there is a problem with the repositories |
| 20:28 | cait | cc_: you don't need to update |
| 20:28 | you just need to make a confiuration change | |
| 20:28 | i'd even recommend against jumping to 20.05 righ tnow | |
| 20:28 | but you should not see alpha release | |
| 20:29 | go to administration > bibliographic marc frameworks > for any framework listed > marc structure > search for 999 > edit subfields | |
| 20:29 | and check visiblity for opac for $c | |
| 20:29 | tcohen: i tihnk UNIMARC uses 001 - for the bug | |
| 20:29 | we might have to check what biblionumber is mapped to? | |
| 20:32 | cc_ | @cait it worked. !! but I do not make any changes in the worksheet can be the update? |
| 20:32 | huginn | cc_: downloading the Perl source |
| 20:32 | cait | sorry, can you rephrase the question? |
| 20:35 | cc_ | Could the update caused this change in my bibliographic mark frames? @cait |
| 20:35 | thanks @tcohen :) | |
| 20:40 | cait | the frameowrks didn't change, but we improved the functionality for hiding fields |
| 20:40 | so suddenly the configuration started to actually work | |
| 20:41 | what tcohen and I were discussing is that the 999c should be treated as an exception | |
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| 21:24 | caroline | re bug 14570 do I understand correctly that we cannot add non-patron guarantors anymore? |
| 21:24 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14570 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Make it possible to add multiple guarantors to a record |
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| 21:33 | lisettelatah | caroline: We can still add non-patron guarantors. We can only add 1 non-patron guarantor though. |
| 21:34 | caroline | in the "Contact" section? |
| 21:34 | I wonder why we didn't put these fields in the Guarantor information section | |
| 21:35 | lisettelatah | Yes, still in the contact section. I agree that it would be good to move up to the other guarantor information. |
| 21:35 | Also it looks like you can add non-patron guarantors to adults now. | |
| 21:40 | Currently I think we can only add 1 non-patron guarantor, but I think there is another bug to change to allow more than 1. | |
| 21:53 | caroline | lisettelatah: the Guarantor info vs. Contact section bug is bug 25654 if you want to add you +1 |
| 21:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25654 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Making the Contact Section / Guarantor Section separate from the Contact details of the patron would be less confusing |
| 21:53 | caroline | *your |
| 21:54 | lisettelatah | done! |
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