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| 00:09 | did | it's me or inventory is broken in 20.5? since bug 23463 |
| 00:09 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23463 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Move C4::Items CRUD subroutines to Koha::Item |
| 00:16 | mtj | hi #koha |
| 00:17 | ashimema: re https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]pelines/148717557 | |
| 00:18 | the job seems to have aborted? i cant explain why... | |
| 00:18 | Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Abort. | |
| 00:18 | tcohen: perhaps we run it again? | |
| 00:20 | aah, last 3 builds after pipeline 148717557 have succeeded - so problem is fixed | |
| 00:20 | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]-docker/pipelines | |
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| 06:39 | Null404 | hello everyone |
| 06:40 | how to set "OpacMainUserBlock " in top of OPAC site ? | |
| 06:41 | I want to get text like "welcome to library system of ... library " as welcome screen | |
| 06:43 | in 17.11 it was right after koha logo and logout button | |
| 06:43 | and after search button | |
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| 06:45 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:48 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 06:48 | wahanui | hello, alex_a |
| 06:52 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 07:21 | magnuse | Null404: are you looking at 20.05? from that version (bug 23794) OpacMainUserBlock has been moved to a "news block" |
| 07:21 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23794 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Convert OpacMainUserBlock system preference to news block |
| 07:21 | Null404 | I use 18.11 |
| 07:22 | and I half solved a problem: I added welcome screen as new news on first position | |
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| 09:01 | Joubu | khall: Around already? Can you have a look at my last comments on bug 25444 please? |
| 09:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25444 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Course reserve settings are not saved on edit |
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| 09:12 | Joubu | @later tell ashimema in the release notes for 20.05, in the companies section, there are some domain urls, should not we replace them? https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]notes_20_05_00.md |
| 09:12 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 09:48 | cait1 | hm andreashm is loud today :) |
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| 11:05 | * oleonard | waves |
| 11:17 | * cait1 | waves |
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| 11:32 | tcohen | bonjour |
| 11:32 | wahanui | salut, tcohen |
| 11:40 | TimothyAlexis | Hello |
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| 12:00 | tuxayo | hi o/ |
| 12:01 | oleonard | What's new tuxayo? |
| 12:04 | tuxayo | oleonard: trying sign off a few stuff in case it's useful for 20.05 release. Reading doc about RMaint, and also related doc. |
| 12:04 | (Bug Reporting Guidelines, Developers Handbook, Coding Guidelines, etc) | |
| 12:06 | * oleonard | has been distracted from Koha by another project... setting up Bookpoints for our summer reading program |
| 12:07 | tcohen | Bookpoints? |
| 12:08 | Oh I see | |
| 12:08 | oleonard | Drupal-based, somewhat open source but no community as far as I can tell |
| 12:09 | * oleonard | bugged them about making a public repo and they said they would |
| 12:09 | oleonard | We're trying to make other plans since we'll have no in-person events for the foreseeable future :( |
| 12:12 | tuxayo | Best wishes to all librarians trying to maintain contact with and between patrons. Though task. |
| 12:13 | oleonard | We officially reopened yesterday, and already patrons are violating social distancing rules. I don't envy the jobs of the front-line librarians. |
| 12:16 | cait1 | :( |
| 12:17 | I believe most of ours are closed or do pick-up of requested items | |
| 12:17 | oleonard | Congratulations to anyone who lives in a country where viruses are not a political issue |
| 12:18 | cait1 | not sure if that is totally true |
| 12:18 | TimothyAlexis | oleonard Thank you. |
| 12:18 | Joubu | oleonard: Where that? |
| 12:18 | wahanui | it has been said that that is how it works now |
| 12:19 | oleonard | Joubu: Elsewhere? |
| 12:20 | Joubu | it's political here as well ;) |
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| 12:27 | Joubu | ashimema For the release, you will need bug 25513, bug 25444, bug 25608 and bug 25601 |
| 12:27 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25513 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , acquisitions_orders.t is failing randomly |
| 12:27 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25444 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Course reserve settings are not saved on edit | |
| 12:27 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25608 major, P5 - low, ---, didier.gautheron, Passed QA , (regression) Inventory is broken | |
| 12:27 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25601 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Error when unsetting default checkout, hold and return policy for a specific library | |
| 12:28 | Joubu | tcohen told me he was going to QA 25513 |
| 12:34 | tcohen | I'm on it |
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| 12:36 | tcohen | Joubu are you sure 25513 removal on Koha::Object is safe? |
| 12:37 | Joubu | no |
| 12:37 | you told me it was | |
| 12:37 | we talked about that few days ago, the problem will be for jessie | |
| 12:37 | tcohen | ok, there's a DBD::mysql report on Github saying there's a regression in the wild |
| 12:37 | yes | |
| 12:37 | ok | |
| 12:37 | I will double check before QA | |
| 12:39 | Joubu | I sent you the different outputs of the mysql_is_num value in PM earlier this week |
| 12:39 | cannot remember when, but I can find them in the logs | |
| 12:40 | tcohen | I have those logs as well |
| 12:40 | the regression is not confirmed | |
| 12:40 | and one dev confirmed it works correctly on 4.050 | |
| 12:41 | which is the version in buster/focal | |
| 12:41 | (stretch has the fixed 4.041 | |
| 12:43 | cait | ok, our virtual user meeting for german speaking countres is on... everyone cros fingers please |
| 12:44 | Joubu | tcohen: please post the different links on the bug report. Could be useful later :) |
| 12:44 | enjoy cait! | |
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| 13:00 | tuxayo | 🤞🤞 |
| 13:03 | cait | 97 participants right now |
| 13:23 | TimothyAlexis | I have koha-testing-docker set up and today when I'm running the ku alias I get this: koha_1 | Database is not empty! at /kohadevbox/misc4dev/populate_db.pl line 95. |
| 13:23 | koha_koha_1 exited with code 1 | |
| 13:25 | kidclamp | run kd first |
| 13:25 | make sure the containers are all stopped | |
| 13:25 | tuxayo | TimothyAlexis: did you use "kd" to shutdown koha-testing-docker last time? |
| 13:26 | kidclamp | after kd try 'docker volume ls' |
| 13:26 | you may need prune any volume that didn't get cleared | |
| 13:26 | * oleonard | waves to kidclamp |
| 13:26 | * kidclamp | waves back |
| 13:27 | * tuxayo | notes about 'docker volume ls' |
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| 13:28 | tuxayo | kd always did the trick for me but if anything weird remains until now, this volume thing will be handy. |
| 13:28 | kidclamp | yeah, I have gottenthings stuck before |
| 13:30 | TimothyAlexis | tuxayo & kidclamp kd was enough this time. Thank you :D |
| 13:30 | cait | 113 participants |
| 13:30 | * cait | is so happy |
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| 13:37 | tuxayo | :D |
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| 13:40 | nsk1 | hi need some help |
| 13:41 | i am trying to change the overall design of the UI...like colors, moving the menus from center to the left..things like that | |
| 13:41 | do i need to know perl to do these? | |
| 13:41 | oleonard | nsk1 you should try to make all such customizations using CSS and if necessary JS |
| 13:42 | You should avoid making changes to the Perl scripts or templates | |
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| 13:45 | nsk1 | so these kinda customisations are possible via css and JS itself...no need to use perl...right? |
| 13:46 | oleonard | Usually, depending on how drastic the changes are |
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| 13:47 | nsk1 | how can i realign the menus on the dashboard? can u point me to some place that talks about it? |
| 13:53 | oleonard | Can you explain more about what you want to do? |
| 13:53 | nsk1 | one minute |
| 13:54 | once the staff logs in | |
| 13:54 | he sees a dashboard | |
| 13:54 | module wise | |
| 13:54 | like circulation, patrons, etc | |
| 13:54 | they are at the center | |
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| 13:54 | nsk1 | i want to align them to the left |
| 13:55 | one below the other | |
| 13:57 | oleonard | May I ask why? |
| 13:58 | nsk1 | just a different looking UI |
| 13:58 | not having the same design and colors as usual | |
| 13:59 | oleonard | Have you tested the CSS-related system preferences? |
| 14:00 | nsk1 | i have tried it but it doesnt seem to work...which is why i want to know whether i am doing the right thing and changing it at the right places |
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| 14:06 | oleonard | The preferences definitely work, so it's probably an issue with the CSS you've tried. |
| 14:06 | Are you familiar with using the browser's DOM inspector to investigate the page's CSS? | |
| 14:07 | nsk1 | yes i do know the inspect element function |
| 14:09 | oleonard | That gives you the information you need to override the CSS which is included in Koha. You can put that CSS in IntranetUserCSS if you want to change the staff interface |
| 14:09 | Changing the order and placement of columns is more difficult though. | |
| 14:10 | We use the Bootstrap framework for layout (v. 3) | |
| 14:10 | But there aren't quick ways I know of to re-order elements using CSS overrides. | |
| 14:11 | You may have to resort to JavaScript. | |
| 14:12 | I recommend starting by making some color changes in order to get some practice | |
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| 14:21 | nsk1 | yes i have managed to change the colors |
| 14:21 | that is relatively easy | |
| 14:21 | but alignment is something that i am unable to do | |
| 14:22 | oleonard | Oh okay, I though you said the CSS preferences weren't working for you. |
| 14:25 | nsk1 | no the simple ones like colors and text r working...slightly more complicated like alignment isnt working...either it isnt working or i dont know where and how to make the changes |
| 14:25 | and i am surprised that u guys have thought about so much stuff in the library and allowed so many things to be customised but a simple thing like alignment is so difficult to do | |
| 14:28 | oleonard | Okay. |
| 14:36 | cait | it's not so simple in terms of html and page structure |
| 14:38 | nsk1 | i see |
| 14:38 | so no one has tried it b4? | |
| 14:38 | cait | i haven't heard ofsuch a request yet and we support over 130 libraries ;) |
| 14:40 | nsk1 | ok...strange...so no one wants to change the UI design and all of them are happy having the same designs across so many libraries....:) |
| 14:41 | sorry but i am not trying to sound too smart or anything...but any open source code (with UI) that i tend to pick up...i just try to change the UI...i mean, atleast that could be my contribution when i set up something..:) | |
| 14:42 | no fun setting up everything as is...:) | |
| 14:44 | cait | you can create your own theme if you really want to - we just would not recommen dit :) |
| 14:44 | but Koha does support that | |
| 14:44 | it's just moving as such a fast pace that if you start out with something like this, you are getting into trouble with your maintenance pretty fast | |
| 14:45 | nsk1 | ok i understand..:) |
| 14:45 | for creating a new theme, do i need to know perl? | |
| 14:46 | cait | you'd need Template Toolkit |
| 14:47 | nsk1 | i see...ok...lemme try that...any other suggestions that u would give b4 i attempt this change? any tips? :) |
| 14:47 | cait | but it's rarely used feature for reasons i guess - koha can be monthly updated and if something is changed in teh standard templats (which happens quite often) your modified files will need to be manually canged as well |
| 14:48 | i'd recommend not doing it before you get a beter feel for things and feel it's absolutely anavoidable | |
| 14:49 | nsk1 | ok...thing is...i am doing this for a library and i am a bit worried that someone in there or who has been to many libraries b4 would sense the sameness |
| 14:49 | in case they have come across a library using koha b4 | |
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| 14:52 | mariahedberg | Hi all! I used the command `ku` to start the koha-testing-docker, and after solving some small problems it looks like it's starting, but in the middle of all the output I got |
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| 14:52 | mariahedberg | koha_1 | Cannnot open file No such file or directory at /kohadevbox/misc4dev/cp_debian_files.pl line 35. koha_koha_1 exited with code 2 |
| 14:53 | oleonard | nsk1: Thousands of libraries using Koha have not worried that their staff interface looks too much like someone else's. |
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| 14:55 | nsk1 | ok...cool...no worries....i think i will leave it as such and delve deeper into the juice...:) |
| 14:56 | cait | nsk1: it's more a feature |
| 14:56 | they will be ablet o use all the manuals and materials available easily | |
| 14:56 | and there is tons of stuff on the internet | |
| 14:57 | it's standard sofftware for libraries... they should not expect to get some thing unique | |
| 14:58 | nsk1 | ok i understand your point |
| 14:58 | will stick to it | |
| 14:59 | how can i remove the 'about koha' from the staff client dashboard? | |
| 15:01 | lukeG | nsk1: If you are looking for a simple way differentiate one staff client from the next or even from one branch to the next, here is a simple way: https://bywatersolutions.com/e[…]ations-per-branch |
| 15:03 | nsk1 | oh ok...a video tutorial...nice...thanks...will have a look |
| 15:04 | lukeG | nsk1: Yes, you can hide the About Koha button from the staff client by adding this to the IntranetUserJS: .icon_koha {display:none !important;} |
| 15:05 | nsk1 | great |
| 15:05 | thanks a lot | |
| 15:06 | will try it | |
| 15:09 | caroline | I've had some picky clients who are like "well, can we change this", and "can we hide that" I used to oblige them, but decided that they chose a software and that's what the software looks like, live with it, you'll get used to it |
| 15:09 | it's hard to maintain from one version to another, sometimes things change and you wonder why and it's because the class is different nouw or whatever | |
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| 15:12 | caroline | sometimes I feel like librarians don't trust their staff to be intelligent enough (I get that some staff is techno-averse) |
| 15:12 | nsk1 | yeah i understand caroline |
| 15:12 | clients never get satisfied with what they get | |
| 15:12 | very picky | |
| 15:13 | caroline | I don't know if oleonard still has his purple theme? I used that in the past for my dev installations because i'm a #crazypurplelady |
| 15:14 | oleonard | Haha I didn't remember that I shared it. It was just header changes as far as I can recall? |
| 15:14 | caroline | you can never have too much purple imo |
| 15:14 | yes it was the gradient at the top that was purple :) | |
| 15:15 | oleonard | caroline: New system preference, StaffInterfaceAllPurple |
| 15:15 | caroline | yes pls! |
| 15:16 | cait | +1 |
| 15:17 | Marie-Luce | +1 |
| 15:17 | caroline | The software I used when I worked in a library had 2 or 3 themes that we could choose from, it might be something to contribute nsk1 |
| 15:17 | lukeG | +1 |
| 15:20 | cait | we tried for a while with the OPAC |
| 15:20 | it got hard fast tbh | |
| 15:21 | hm unles themes != templats but a nice css file | |
| 15:21 | and sorry for the typos | |
| 15:22 | caroline | yeah I meant we could have a couple of css files that come with the installation and you can change it with the syspref |
| 15:22 | don't remember what the syspref is called, but it's the one I used for the purple theme | |
| 15:22 | ah here it is intranetcolorstylesheet | |
| 15:23 | cait | i like that idea |
| 15:24 | caroline | that way if you have more that one install (eg. live and test) you could have different themes |
| 15:24 | I always add a big red border on test installs with many warnings hehe | |
| 15:25 | cait | we do something visual too |
| 15:25 | but it keeps disappearing when we reset/update | |
| 15:25 | caroline | https://snipboard.io/27SxYn.jpg |
| 15:25 | cait | more worried abotu changing the wrong library sometimes, so used to quickly check all the time |
| 15:26 | can you share the css? | |
| 15:26 | caroline | sure |
| 15:27 | pastebot | "caroline" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "css" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/20947 |
| 15:27 | cait | thx! |
| 15:27 | caroline | it goes in intranetusercss |
| 15:27 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:52 | nsk1 | nice |
| 15:52 | i have been looking into koha only recently | |
| 15:52 | cos a client wanted me to set up a library system for him | |
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| 16:00 | nsk1 | thanks for ur inputs guys |
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| 16:49 | tuxayo | Very subtle stuff in Bugzilla: If one sends their first comment in a bug and there is a mid air collision, then accepting to just sent the comment won't cause being added to the CC list. |
| 16:49 | So that can be a cause of not being notified of next messages. | |
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| 20:05 | caroline | Hi all, can anyone change system preferences? I've been trying since last week at lease to use my master to check things and it always gives me an error |
| 20:05 | I *just* did a git pull and updatedatabase.pl | |
| 20:06 | thinking it might solve the problem | |
| 20:06 | tcohen | caroline, did you restart_all? |
| 20:06 | caroline | what does that do? |
| 20:07 | tcohen | it flushes memcached, and restarts plack |
| 20:07 | caroline | I don't use plack |
| 20:07 | not sure about memcached | |
| 20:07 | cait | it's thepermission thing i bet |
| 20:07 | caroline: okhadevbox? | |
| 20:07 | caroline | no it's installed on my computer |
| 20:07 | cait | could still be |
| 20:08 | can you check plack logs when you try to safe a pref? | |
| 20:08 | tcohen | caroline a dev install? |
| 20:08 | caroline | yes on the master branch |
| 20:08 | tcohen | vintage :-D |
| 20:08 | caroline | hehe! |
| 20:09 | I don't have plack so I don't have plack logs | |
| 20:09 | I only have koha-error_log | |
| 20:09 | nothing new in there since january | |
| 20:10 | cait | oh that's really vintage |
| 20:10 | i thought it might be 25284 | |
| 20:11 | caroline | well it's pushed to master and I just pulled like 10 minutes ago |
| 20:12 | cait | yes, but not sure it would just fx things |
| 20:12 | tcohen: ? | |
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| 20:14 | caroline | it seems dans 25284 is for new installs |
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| 20:15 | caroline | I've had mine for a while (since I got this computer) and I just git pull and updatedatabase all the time to keep up |
| 20:15 | to date | |
| 20:15 | cait | caroline: it broke my devbox until i changed permissions |
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| 20:16 | cait | and I rarely destroy it, so also older |
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| 20:17 | caroline | I have all my permissions https://snipboard.io/vxdphu.jpg |
| 20:17 | cait | not sure where hte log woudl go on an old git install if at all |
| 20:17 | it might be the wrong idea anyway | |
| 20:18 | woudl be good if we got tcohen back :) | |
| 20:18 | tcohen | back |
| 20:18 | I'm seeing a problem saving sysprefs on a 19.11 server | |
| 20:19 | https://snipboard.io/1NikjX.jpg | |
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| 20:23 | cait | yaml? |
| 20:23 | wahanui | yaml is horrible for writing the descriptions anyway. embedded html yo. |
| 20:23 | caroline | wahanui is getting attitude |
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| 21:27 | tcohen | cait caroline I confirm enabling Plack brings syspref changing back |
| 21:27 | caroline you should file a bug | |
| 21:27 | caroline | even if my install is different from everyone else? |
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| 22:10 | tcohen | I just disabled plack to confirm it |
| 22:10 | in 19.11 at least | |
| 22:11 | and your setup is not an invalid one | |
| 22:11 | just vintage nowadays .-d | |
| 22:13 | caroline | thanks :) |
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