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06:41 | ashimema[m] | mornin' |
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06:56 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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07:41 | janPasi | hi guys, has anyone tried running Koha on ARM-based servers? |
07:41 | are there problems to be expected? | |
07:43 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: DBRev 19.12.00.084 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ba32728baf03122c0> |
07:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Schema Update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a5a735cc9aedd54d1> | |
07:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 17355: DBRev 19.12.00.083 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]42870083236b66bd0> | |
07:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 25311: (QA follow-up) Add misssing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]383d864cebf32a7c4> | |
07:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (follow-up) Don't show the macro ID in front of description <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]829419f99d0ac9dba> | |
07:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (QA follow-up) Make "Convert old browser macros" translatable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d295f868abc1e718> | |
07:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 17355: (QA follow-up) Add description to updatedatabase entry <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0bbc58fd388b5e650> | |
07:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 25309: Limit size of streetnumber field to 10 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9c1b275a9bdba6f97> | |
07:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 25311: Better error handling when updating a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6851030e22b31b27> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 25311: Better error handling when creating a patron <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6b2fe42955661b5b7> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 24808: enable translation on results.js <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]72a39f49480c7e39f> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 17355: Add the ability to remove authorised value categories <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f2b1ecd9f15adf54e> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Update patchs per RFC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]77967f271d5ae553e> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (follow-up) Fix translatability <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5a5935bdc9691804c> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Set boolean for shared column in schema <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]656bca28e013b6ca9> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: (follow-up) Fix licenses <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9c5d0a9b321b9acb> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Use API to store/retrieve values <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]24d5571608d14cf61> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Schema update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c278eb54c3bdd7d7d> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Advanced cataloging editor macros - add endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]40d6dbffaf98d57df> | |
07:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 17268: Add macros table and permissions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]080efc548b48fefac> | |
07:45 | cait2 | the work of a long weekend... gone in a second ;) |
07:46 | ashimema[m] | not all of it ;) |
07:46 | just the first half or so | |
07:46 | great work cait, thankyou :) | |
07:48 | cait2 | hopefully jenkins will agree :) |
07:48 | magnuse | cait++ |
07:48 | cait2 | janPasi: total noob there... is raspberry arm based? there are some pages on the wiki and I think Fred King did a presentation recently |
07:50 | ashimema[m] | the pi is indeed an arm board |
07:54 | janPasi | cait2: yep, raspberry pi is ARM :) |
07:55 | cait2: you wouldn't happen to have a link to the presentation? is it available on-line? | |
07:55 | cait2 | i believe it was for Koha Us |
07:56 | http://avengingchicken.online/[…]aspberry-pi-4.pdf | |
07:56 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24636: (follow-up) - move 'by' into include file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]afa26463d5e7a6619> |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 25340: Pass biblio object to OPAC comments template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15e2c958f264bc76f> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 25335: group by authorised_value in addbiblio.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6b73e453d487d67b7> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 21565: (follow-up) Make confirmation buttons more detailed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6c7767c6374c279dd> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 25305: Translation process - Open all files specifying the utf8 encoding <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5033cdc1012698986> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 24636: translate planning sections <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c1000a91aaac8c5f5> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 22515: Improve logic determining how to show OPAC suggestions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]82d3ddf8fe37b510f> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 21565: Add modal to SCO confirm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d09375488ff322e21> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 25247: Only convert data ot objects when displaying on screen <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e0917da664e9b6ade> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 25133: (follow-up) Remove Names as they do no affect display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b1bcd69a5854016aa> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 25133: Handle 12hr format for dt_from_string <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9424d70703afa722e> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 25133: Fix time part of due date for 12hr <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bfdc5ac969d9ed990> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 25107: Remove double passing of $server variable to maybe_add in C4::SIP::Sip... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86ee775a89d7f4c0b> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 23119: MARC21 added title 246, 730 subfield i displays out of order, and should... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b26d31521ccb5ee44> | |
07:56 | News from kohagit: Bug 18308: Increase minPasswordLength default to 8 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d6ee93267b741986> | |
07:56 | janPasi | cait2: awesome, thank you very much : |
07:57 | cait2 | no problem, googling also seems to bring up a bit from the mailing list |
07:58 | janPasi | we're not planning to use raspberry pi actually, but rather something based on AMD Opteron A or something like that, but that will still be helpful :) |
07:58 | we're planning to move all our Koha installations to be hosted by one single service provider and we've been thinking about maybe switching away from Intel while we're at it | |
07:59 | at the moment we have six service providers, it's a nightmare :D | |
08:00 | Actually I think I'll try it on raspberry pi first, that's a really cheap way to do some preliminary testing :) | |
08:05 | ashimema[m] | I'd be really interested in the results of running on the opteron A |
08:06 | janPasi | ashimema[m]: I'll try to remember to let you know how this goes, just ask me if I don't remember :D |
08:06 | ashimema[m] | went to a presentation in cambridge recently where they were showing off next gen ARMs with 256 cores |
08:06 | janPasi | whoa, that's a lot of cores |
08:07 | ashimema[m] | they're really going for the parallel compute route |
08:07 | janPasi | so it seems :D |
08:07 | ashimema[m] | we a very interesting presentation by one of the ARM founders |
08:07 | janPasi | what was that abou? |
08:08 | *about | |
08:08 | ashimema[m] | s/we a/ was a/ |
08:08 | it was just a bit of a history of ARM and where they're headed next | |
08:08 | janPasi | sounds interesting |
08:08 | ashimema[m] | it's an amazing platform |
08:09 | janPasi | i for one am a big fan of arm |
08:09 | yep | |
08:17 | liliputech_asu | what about RISC-V ? |
08:17 | (didn't tried it yet) | |
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08:18 | janPasi | liliputech_asu: is there hardware? :D |
08:18 | liliputech_asu | janPasi: yes =) |
08:19 | janPasi | liliputech_asu: also, how about OS/software compatibility? It's not very practical having to compile everything from source :( |
08:19 | ashimema[m] | I know a few people who are very keen on RISC.. but i've never played with it myself |
08:20 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1305: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1305/ |
08:22 | liliputech_asu | mostly devboard (like beaglebone / stuff like that) |
08:22 | there was a great article in a journal called "hackable magazine" (french publication) | |
08:27 | janPasi | well that sort of rules it out for production servers :D |
08:35 | ashimema[m]: from what I understand, modern day Intel processors are internally also (at least mostly) RISC, they just look like CISC to the outside :D | |
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08:36 | janPasi | ashimema[m]: they work in a way that they break CISC into a group of RISC commands and then execute them separately |
08:37 | ashimema[m]: to the user it looks like (s)he is dealing with a CISC processor, but that's just because there is an extra "layer" on top of RISC architecture that provides CISC style command set | |
08:38 | ashimema[m]: i'm not an expert in this, but that's what I've allowed myself to be told :D | |
08:39 | ashimema[m]: the problem with this evidently is that it's not very efficient compared to real RISC | |
08:39 | ashimema[m] | interesting |
08:40 | tcohen | morning |
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08:45 | ashimema[m] | rather early for you isn't it tcohen ? |
08:45 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Schema Fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f6a2e1e7f74dfb8b5> |
08:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DBRev 19.12.00.085 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]59f45e249f8a24468> | |
08:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: (follow-up) DB changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ecb81d3eb4140232c> | |
08:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Fix license statements <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2853da2fbd0778e0b> | |
08:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 24995: (QA follow-up) Terminology: Use checkin and checkout <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4974ef6da18fc011c> | |
08:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 15668: (QA follow-up) Add date accessioned to column configuration <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]92a3b3cd55fd5e8cf> | |
08:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 15668: (QA follow-up) Fix capitalization Course Reserves <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a26172d8924dc10fa> | |
08:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 25350: Load Emoji picker assets more efficiently <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]181fff9a1493cae94> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Display claimed dates vertically <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ddee2850f53fd1e15> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DBIC manual changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e696e0ecaec2b3452> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24995: Add issuedate to table_account_fines and finest <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9014bc7e233d3a79f> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 15668: (follow up) add selector to th <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]49af43a3c02e0b8b1> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 15668: Add column configuration to the items table in staff detail pages <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2897ec6a23b2bec22> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24740: Use biblio title rather than biblio number in OPAC search result cover... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]702c9873ea8942e44> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Add tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e7c6957b91309ae17> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Remove GetLateOrders <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7f7fad95a2e519604> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Keep tracks of late orders claims <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3a217ce6c0f6bda47> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: Add the Koha::Acquisition::Order::Claim[s] classes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]68aaedd767b7977e2> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DBIC changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6d9eeb32dd0f7f53> | |
08:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: DB changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4015696a09c4e61d> | |
08:58 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #295: UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/295/ |
09:04 | tuxayo | hi #koha o/ |
09:15 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #213: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/213/ |
09:17 | tuxayo | janPasi: About running Koha on ARM, if you are lucky, none of the perl deps from the Koha deb repo has native code. |
09:17 | And the only perl deps and other deps with native code will come from Debian direclty. | |
09:17 | So nothing to compile and nothing to do differently from a classic install. (I hope). | |
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09:19 | tuxayo | *Aside from telling your OS to use the Koha deb repo even if it's the wrong architecture. (like it's done on the slides sent earlier here) |
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09:31 | janPasi | tuxayo: that's kind of what I was hoping for :D |
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09:36 | janPasi | tuxayo: of i could just install the perl deps directly from cpan |
09:36 | *or | |
09:36 | tuxayo | janPasi: how does it works for native deps? Does it compile them locally when installing? |
09:37 | janPasi | that would probably be more laboursome, but then architecture specific things would likely not be a problem |
09:37 | tuxayo: yep | |
09:37 | tuxayo | great :D |
09:38 | janPasi | there might be some version incompatibilities to deal with, however |
09:38 | tuxayo | question about koha-testing-docker for anyone: what should one do to use ES? |
09:38 | switch the syspref SearchEngine and run this ? | |
09:38 | misc/search_tools/rebuild_elastic_search.pl -v -d | |
09:38 | It seems to work but I don't want to be bitten later by a missing steps. | |
09:39 | janPasi: you mean due to mistakes in matching the same version as in the Koha deb repo? | |
09:39 | janPasi | tuxayo: yeah, that would require some additional attention, at least |
09:40 | tuxayo: the latest version in cpan is not always the one you need for Koha, based on my past experiences | |
09:44 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #848: STILL FAILING in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/848/ |
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09:48 | Joubu | @later tell marcelr bug 8132 - is it still missing info? Can you detail why you disagree with the idea? As I said it has been considered critical for several years :) |
09:48 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
09:59 | * cait2 | reads UNSTABLE and hides |
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10:10 | cait2 | bug 8132 |
10:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8132 major, P4, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch delete tool deletes items with holds on them |
10:12 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #296: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/296/ |
10:16 | magnuse | bug 8132 |
10:16 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8132 major, P4, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Batch delete tool deletes items with holds on them |
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10:27 | * ashimema[m] | would love to see bug 25245 make it through |
10:27 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25245 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add a plugin hook to allow running code on a nightly basis |
10:27 | ashimema[m] | with it in we can install the recalls plugin without any manual messing about |
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10:50 | cait | not sure what cuased this |
10:50 | but we have a javasript error preventing me to add items in acq | |
10:50 | TypeError: $.timepicker is undefined | |
10:50 | well... it breaks more, but that#s how i noticed | |
10:52 | Joubu | cait: certainly bug 25133 |
10:52 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25133 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Specify Due date changes from PM to AM if library has their TimeFormat set to 12hr |
10:52 | cait | ouch |
10:52 | that's on me the | |
10:52 | n | |
10:52 | but i did test it... I sear | |
10:52 | swear | |
10:52 | Joubu | can you let a note please? |
10:53 | cait | i had to write up my own test plan |
10:54 | Joubu: i wantd to retest the late orders, but can't create late orders... will have to wait until i can get back to this | |
10:54 | i left a note | |
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11:05 | nlegrand | a gut yor |
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11:28 | Joubu | kidclamp: letting you the follow-up for 25133? |
11:30 | kidclamp | ok, can do |
11:30 | * cait2 | hopes not more things she actually tested explode today *grump* |
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11:37 | magnuse | cait2: it only proves you too are human :-) |
11:38 | cait2 | I am not sure this human thing suits me |
11:40 | magnuse | hehe |
11:44 | Joubu | ashimema[m]: selenium tests are broken because of the bug cait reported on 25133 |
11:44 | ashimema[m]: 2 follow-ups on 24161 | |
11:50 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: (follow-up) DBIC changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2b30fb6511fbc4bf9> |
11:50 | News from kohagit: Bug 24161: (follow-up) Fix typo in POD <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b92802fe57355f1ff> | |
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11:58 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
11:58 | tuxayo | o/ oleonard |
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12:09 | Joubu | Thanks Nick! |
12:10 | Thanks kidclamp :) | |
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12:44 | Joubu | ashimema[m]: can you push Nick's follow-up on bug 25133 please? |
12:44 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25133 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Specify Due date changes from PM to AM if library has their TimeFormat set to 12hr |
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12:46 | ashimema[m] | done |
12:46 | ew | hi everyone |
12:46 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 25133: (follow-up) Move changes to timepicker.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1cb0188a693405af5> |
12:47 | tuxayo | khall++ |
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12:48 | ew | I installed koha on our server and tried to configure it. I want to catalogue our library with about 1000 books in a simple manner. I am not used to library software and I think that koha is too mighty for our purpose. Do you have any good recommendations for me? |
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13:10 | oleonard | ew: Did you have a problem setting up Koha? I'm curious why you think it's not right for you. |
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13:20 | ew | @oleanord: Well yes, I get various problems in the MARC testing in all preconfigured frameworks. And when trying to import from z39.50 servers and also when manually creating an entry I am overwhelmed by the professional terms the software uses... there is a steep learning curve involved for me personally |
13:20 | huginn | ew: downloading the Perl source |
13:21 | ew | I simply think that it is too powerful for my scenario... so I figured it would be clever to ask the experts for any alternatives that are easy to use |
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13:41 | oleonard | ew: Unfortunately I spend all my time with Koha so I'm not aware of what the alternatives are |
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13:42 | ew | why is a piece designation (barcoe) mandatory for example? we don't use that |
13:43 | oleonard | ew: Because it is expected that items will be circulated |
13:44 | kidclamp | tuxayo++ |
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14:19 | oleonard | Bug 25365 |
14:19 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25365 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , JavaScript error on neworderempty.pl: $.timepicker is undefined |
14:20 | oleonard | Looks like the error isn't just on that page, but other pages with datepickers too |
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14:25 | tuxayo | Good, the job offer for the next RM is published now. I'm confident we will find someone quickly. |
14:25 | https://picat.drycat.fr/4UeyyXPN.png | |
14:26 | wait | |
14:27 | liliputech_asu | *magical* internet point \(*o*)/ |
14:27 | tuxayo | It's release manager, not release maintainer. |
14:27 | Nooooooooooooo | |
14:28 | Well it's still a relevant offer. Despite the typo. | |
14:29 | liliputech_asu | wether its for release Maintainer or Manager, still RM tuxayo =) |
14:29 | tuxayo | liliputech_asu: Maintainer => RMaint |
14:29 | liliputech_asu | oh. |
14:30 | tuxayo | Indeed that's confusing. |
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14:34 | Null404 | hello there |
14:34 | wahanui | Greetings, programs! |
14:35 | Null404 | I have a problem, I used this script: https://bywatersolutions.com/e[…]tatus-upon-return and koha block returned books and reserved books too |
14:35 | how to not block reservations ? | |
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14:36 | caroline | normally, if your not_loan value is negative, you should be able to reserve items |
14:37 | Null404 | if I want to accept reservation, reserved book has "quarantine " status |
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14:39 | caroline | just make sure your quarantine status is negative (like -5 like in the example) |
14:40 | Null404 | yes |
14:40 | quarantine have -5 status | |
14:40 | caroline | what do you mean Koha blocks returned books and reserved books? |
14:42 | Null404 | someone returned book and it blocked - thats ok |
14:42 | caroline | when you say it blocked, you mean it put the quarantine status |
14:42 | Null404 | I want to borrow reserved book from shelf and this is blocked too |
14:42 | yes | |
14:44 | caroline | so a book that did not have the quarantine status was reserved on the shelf, but when you check it in to confirm the reservation, it puts the quarantine status? |
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14:45 | Null404 | I cannot confirm hold |
14:45 | @caroline yes | |
14:45 | huginn | Null404: downloading the Perl source |
14:46 | did | Hi, why both indexes on biblio PRIMARY KEY (`biblionumber`), KEY `blbnoidx` (`biblionumber`) ) ? Leftover from another time? |
14:47 | caroline | Marie-Luce: did you test this? if an item has regular available status (0) and is reserved on shelf, when you check it in, it puts the quarantine status you cannot confirm the hold? can you check? |
14:48 | Marie-Luce | after a checkin of a reserved item, you'll get the quarantine status |
14:48 | Null404 | without confirm hold I can borrow book |
14:48 | caroline | does it still pop-up the hold confirmation? |
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14:49 | Null404 | yes I have pop up, I can confirm |
14:49 | I can't borrow that book | |
14:49 | Marie-Luce | from what I've seen, you will be asked to confirm the hold, but you have to ignore the message |
14:50 | caroline | Null404: so you have the pop up and you can confirm the hold, but afterwards, you cant check it out because the not_loan status is on quarantine |
14:50 | Null404 | if I ignore pop up also adds quarantine status |
14:51 | thats right caroline | |
14:51 | caroline | it logically makes sense |
14:51 | Null404 | so how to fix that ? |
14:51 | caroline | I'm trying to think of a way to work around it |
14:51 | Marie-Luce | after the quarantine, you can use the automatic status change [-5: 0], this will activate the hold |
14:52 | Null404 | I know Marie luce |
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14:52 | Null404 | but I cannot ublock books every 5 minutes |
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14:52 | Null404 | *unblock |
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14:53 | caroline | Marie-Luce: this is for a book that was not out, it was in the library so it doesn't need to be in quarantine, but the checkin to confirm the hold puts it in quarantine anyway because it's a checkin |
14:53 | Null404 | maybe there is a way to ignore retun status from [null] user ? |
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14:54 | Null404 | thats right caroline |
14:55 | Joubu | did: yes, it should be removed |
14:55 | did | joubu: thanks |
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14:56 | caroline | Null404: right now there is no way to make exceptions for UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin |
14:56 | Null404 | so any ideas ? |
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14:57 | caroline | can you use something else than a status? like a location? a location will not block the loan, but your staff will know that it is quarantined |
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14:58 | Null404 | you mean change location of book ? |
14:58 | caroline | using UpdateItemLocationOnCheckin |
14:58 | Null404 | this will be problem |
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14:58 | caroline | ok nevermind them |
14:59 | Null404 | on one system there is 4 libraries |
14:59 | *are | |
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15:00 | Marie-Luce | just to clarify, are you using UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin and the tool automatic item modification by age? |
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15:01 | caroline | Null404: can you use AllowNotForLoanOverride ? |
15:02 | This will allow staff to loan out books even if they have the quarantined status | |
15:02 | exceptionally | |
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15:06 | Null404 | caroline: click allow on "staff to override and check out items that are marked as not for loan. ? |
15:06 | that makes sense | |
15:07 | caroline | yes |
15:07 | Marie-Luce thought of another option | |
15:07 | she's typing right now :) | |
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15:08 | Marie-Luce | just an idea: it may need a double checkin. For example: if you set UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin [0: -5], you can add a second rules [-5: 0] |
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15:09 | Marie-Luce | at the first checkin, the book will get the quarantine status (you can ignore the hold confirmation), at the second checkin the book will return as available |
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15:09 | Marie-Luce | and this time you can confirm the reservation |
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15:12 | Null404 | sound great |
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15:12 | caroline | Marie-Luce++ |
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15:20 | Marie-Luce | :) |
15:28 | Null404 | thanks caroline for help ! :) |
15:33 | you idea Marie-Luce is awesome, it works now perfectly | |
15:33 | *your | |
15:33 | reiveune | bye |
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15:35 | Marie-Luce | I'm glad it worked out |
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15:52 | tuxayo | Does anyone know where KohaDevBox or koha-testing-docker puts the SIP logs? |
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16:53 | kidclamp | syslog? |
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17:17 | tuxayo | kidclamp: /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages doesn't exist |
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17:38 | kidclamp | Is there a var log Koha sip log? |
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18:25 | tuxayo | kidclamp++ |
18:26 | yes, in /var/log/koha/kohadev/ | |
18:26 | :D | |
18:28 | oleonard | kidclamp is soaking in karma today |
18:30 | kidclamp | Be wary oleonard, it might just be a guilty conscience about bugs I created |
18:31 | oleonard | We call that "git blame syndrome" |
18:34 | tuxayo | It always starts with karma. |
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21:36 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
21:36 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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22:08 | aleisha | hey is anyone able to help me with a schema files issue i'm having? |
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