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| 07:09 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 25303: Add a test for ->reset <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f3d6951f8d8fe12b8> |
| 07:09 | News from kohagit: Bug 25303: Call ->reset before iterate on the set <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64b60c8372fe1d9a2> | |
| 07:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 23794: DBRev 19.12.082 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bde1f3368c5e2915c> | |
| 07:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 24043: (QA follow-up) Fix another TypeError when retrieving status name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]efa2ea190b184c1d1> | |
| 07:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 25297: Consistent return value in K::A::Order->current_item_level_holds <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a0fcec2d5a21f0e24> | |
| 07:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 25297: Regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]28abd0f83bbcebce8> | |
| 07:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 24980: (follow-up) return '' when date is null <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50aa3353ddcbc6ddd> | |
| 07:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 24980: Only add timezone if passed a date-time <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]39371f45afc6c0244> | |
| 07:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 24043: Fix retrieval of of status name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e0d29b96ca3dc8640> | |
| 07:21 | News from kohagit: Bug 23794: Convert OpacMainUserBlock system preference to news block <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a9f9a5d9b489a0fdf> | |
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| 08:59 | ashimema | very quiet in here today |
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| 10:37 | cait | good morning |
| 10:37 | hm lunch :) | |
| 10:42 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 10:44 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 10:45 | i am just adding a suggestion for a new coding guidelie for the aria-hidden | |
| 10:45 | oleonard | Oh thank you cait |
| 10:46 | cait | well not phrased out... just on the agenda |
| 10:46 | triggered by tcohen's comment on bug 25279 | |
| 10:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25279 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make the cities list use the API |
| 10:46 | cait | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]6_May_2020#Agenda |
| 10:51 | ashimema | cait |
| 10:51 | cait | hi |
| 10:51 | wahanui | salut, cait |
| 10:51 | cait | bug 24278? |
| 10:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24278 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Replace Locale::Currency::Format because it's buggy |
| 10:51 | cait | i am not sure how you would write tests for this |
| 10:51 | ashimema | I've been trying to catch you regarding bug 20352.. i make a decision and suddenly you appear and comment.. lol |
| 10:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Add ability of currency/price to have a symbol after amount |
| 10:52 | cait | because you mentioned the right keyword... and because I've been trying to work through the backlog in m y inbox |
| 10:52 | ashimema | I wanted to ask if you guys do ordering in multiple currencies and how you would expect them to appear |
| 10:52 | cait | the formatting should be the locale, as you said |
| 10:52 | ashimema | so you feel I'm right not to push that one as is.. |
| 10:52 | cait | yes |
| 10:53 | ashimema | coolios.. |
| 10:53 | cait | i know Joubu had asked me to take a look too, i am sorry i didn<#t get aorund to it |
| 10:53 | ashimema | what I'm struggling with is how things should appear overall.. |
| 10:53 | cait | me too |
| 10:53 | ashimema | localised by where the currenct comes from or localised to the local display.. |
| 10:53 | i.e.. | |
| 10:53 | cait | i feel local display... |
| 10:53 | ashimema | do you guys ever order in german euros and uk pounds on one system? |
| 10:53 | and if you do.. | |
| 10:54 | cait | but if you have a system with branches in different countries... not sure if htat would change the expectation for example for showing amounts in the opac |
| 10:54 | this has idfferent pieces | |
| 10:54 | ashimema | should gbp look like `1.000,02 £` |
| 10:54 | cait | one is acq |
| 10:54 | ashimema | or `£1,000.02` |
| 10:54 | cait | at the moment, we don#t even show the foreign amounts |
| 10:54 | you enter and immediately recalculate | |
| 10:54 | so all you see is your active currency in the tables | |
| 10:55 | i have a bug open for that osmewhere | |
| 10:55 | ashimema | I'm just looking for expectations at the moment rather than what we currently do ;) |
| 10:55 | cait | we have a library who regularly orders from israel |
| 10:55 | Joubu | ashimema: yes we are all right about it, it's a wrong assumption. But it may display correctly in 90% of the cases |
| 10:55 | cait | shekel i think |
| 10:55 | i believe it would help readability for users to use the same formatting | |
| 10:55 | that thy are usedto | |
| 10:56 | because we do calculations with it, and it might be irritating if there is a lot of variation in the tables | |
| 10:56 | ashimema | next question.. hmm.. harder one to give an example of |
| 10:56 | cait | and they might not know how things diplay in other countries per se |
| 10:56 | ashimema | what about places ording in USD and CAD ? |
| 10:56 | cait | ? |
| 10:57 | ashimema | how would you tell between $1,000.02 and $1,000.02 for the two currencies? |
| 10:57 | as an example | |
| 10:57 | cait | I guess the easiest would be to show iso codes |
| 10:57 | and the currency symbol only in the opac | |
| 10:57 | not in acq? | |
| 10:58 | differentiate the uses.... a patron will know what is meant | |
| 10:58 | and only display it if it's not the active currency in acq? | |
| 10:58 | no need to say EUR everywhere or € | |
| 10:58 | ashimema | sounds sane |
| 10:59 | cait | might be tricky... but we could defer the question to the acq SIG |
| 10:59 | only problem might be it's a little US centric atm i gues | |
| 10:59 | s | |
| 10:59 | ashimema | I still like the idea of offloading it to a module.. but I think most modules are designed to localise at a currency level |
| 10:59 | cait | maybe Sonia would have an opinion too, it hink as a university in europe the yprobably order a lot too |
| 10:59 | i am not against a module | |
| 10:59 | just THIS module has given me nightmares | |
| 11:00 | i had treid to emai lthe author nicely a long while back and never heard anything | |
| 11:00 | and the issues are rather old too | |
| 11:00 | ashimema | the unicode one looks sane enough.. |
| 11:00 | cait | the worst so far was when it printed multiples of the fine |
| 11:00 | which one was that? | |
| 11:00 | ashimema | tried catching larz about it? |
| 11:00 | he's on the contributors list | |
| 11:00 | cait | i don't know these people, you do :) |
| 11:00 | ashimema | https://metacpan.org/pod/CLDR:[…]:Format::Currency |
| 11:01 | seems reasonably well respected and is fairly high up the cpan river | |
| 11:01 | which are usually good measures | |
| 11:01 | cait | hm hasn#t seen updates in a while, but apart from that I can't tell if it#s good or not |
| 11:01 | ashimema | sometimes things don't get updates simply because they work well already ;) |
| 11:01 | cait | I know |
| 11:01 | not true for the other one | |
| 11:05 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 11:05 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 11:05 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10_Deps build #12: FIXED in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ster_D10_Deps/12/ |
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| 11:06 | cait | hm |
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| 11:14 | ashimema[m] | OK.. the COP issue isn't handled by the unicode library either |
| 11:14 | cait | COP issue? |
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| 11:15 | cait | ah I see |
| 11:16 | i assume what the Goethe libraries reported to be correct as they are in the country | |
| 11:16 | but t might be worth looking into each one.. maybe they have been local changes/history explaining changes missed | |
| 11:17 | ashimema[m] | I think we force the wrong formatting actualy |
| 11:17 | cait | ? |
| 11:17 | ashimema[m] | We always for 'FMT_SUMBOL' as our output.. |
| 11:18 | we should use 'FMT_COMMON' I think | |
| 11:18 | FMT_COMMON get's it right more often | |
| 11:18 | cait | in this case too? |
| 11:18 | ashimema[m] | works for COP yup |
| 11:18 | instead of a funny P is uses $ | |
| 11:20 | so what did you send the author of the module? | |
| 11:20 | cait | it's been a while ago |
| 11:21 | i explained that Koha uses the module and we noticed issues as we support libraries in a lot of countries and listed what I had then | |
| 11:21 | ashimema[m] | any chance you could dig it out and copy it to me? |
| 11:21 | I think koha uses the module wrong.. not the module is wrong | |
| 11:22 | for the cases you highlight in the bug report switching to 'FMT_COMMON' fixes all three | |
| 11:22 | cait | that would be helpful then |
| 11:22 | what about turkey? | |
| 11:22 | ashimema[m] | yup |
| 11:22 | trukey too | |
| 11:22 | cait | the wrong symbols are one thing, but the wrong rounding is a different beast |
| 11:23 | i try to remember, but i tihnk it meant we ended with huge amounts in the overdues | |
| 11:23 | ashimema[m] | I'm struggling to find documentation on how it should be rounded |
| 11:24 | cait | not at all |
| 11:25 | I can check the tickets on monday if that helps | |
| 11:25 | but they wanted it to be the same as calculated in Koha | |
| 11:26 | ashimema[m] | it's listed as a 2 decimal currency |
| 11:26 | no sure how you're expecting to display it without some sort of rounding to 2 decimals | |
| 11:26 | cait | yes that matches what we show in koha |
| 11:27 | the issue was it kind of removed the decimal if i remember correctly | |
| 11:27 | like 50.00 turned into 5000 | |
| 11:27 | ashimema[m] | I'm certainly not seeing that |
| 11:28 | remember.. where , and . appear depends on locale as well as currency ? | |
| 11:28 | cait | I spent a day on it, i am sure there was something wrong |
| 11:28 | ashimema[m] | wonder if they were set in the wrong locale |
| 11:28 | cait | no they are not |
| 11:28 | ashimema[m] | oh well.. |
| 11:28 | cait | and the locale doesn't matter |
| 11:28 | it only looks at the currency iso codes | |
| 11:29 | i can try to check monday, but i really don't want to boot up the work computer, vpn and all on a holiday | |
| 11:31 | ashimema[m] | okies |
| 11:31 | cait | the issue was it was displaying a wrong amount |
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| 12:00 | oleonard | cait, I think your comment about the noreply & replyto email issue with Bug 13388 means I should remove display of the email altogether |
| 12:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13388 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Add library pages to the OPAC |
| 12:00 | oleonard | If libraries really want to show it they can add it to opac_info |
| 12:01 | cait | i tihnk it might be the easiest to move this in now |
| 12:01 | sorry for making things complicated | |
| 12:02 | oleonard | Not at all, that was important |
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| 12:05 | oleonard | Personally I think the email-crawling/spam issue was less of an issue... In my opinion we're past the point where obfuscating an email address will prevent spam. |
| 12:06 | cait | possibl |
| 12:06 | y | |
| 12:06 | but if we put it there by default with no way to remove we still might meet some resistance | |
| 12:06 | some libraries/institutions have rules about that kind of hting | |
| 12:06 | oleonard | AGreed |
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| 12:09 | tuxayo | oleonard: «Personally I think the email-crawling/spam issue was less of an issue» |
| 12:09 | I don't have much actual experience so as long as this risk has been though of, it's fine. | |
| 12:09 | hi #koha o/ | |
| 12:09 | oleonard | Hi tuxayo :) |
| 12:10 | My opinion is just a "gut feeling" | |
| 12:11 | tuxayo | Also mine but my guts haven't seems much related to spam. Especially in an institution. |
| 12:11 | cait | our emails are all on bugzilla |
| 12:12 | i haven't noticed 'being spammend to death' yet :) | |
| 12:12 | but as i said, sometimes they have rules for the website etc that are also expected for the catalog | |
| 12:12 | so it might be safer to allow entering it in another field like opac info | |
| 12:12 | tuxayo | > I should remove display of the email altogether |
| 12:12 | +1 unless there is some really easy way to replace at least the @ with some fancy yet simple for humans stuff. | |
| 12:12 | oleonard | Follow-up sent. Thanks both of you for testing |
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| 12:15 | tuxayo | > we're past the point where obfuscating an email address will prevent spam. |
| 12:15 | It's possible that many crawlers are quite smart indeed :-/ My hope is that most do naive stuff because it still works well. | |
| 12:15 | But that's a hope | |
| 12:17 | oleonard: thanks for the follow up | |
| 12:17 | > the email address configured for a library may not be the email | |
| 12:17 | address libraries want to use as a contact email address | |
| 12:18 | That was a more relevant issue. Some libraries might not want to be emailed directly. (I guess) | |
| 12:19 | cait: | |
| 12:19 | > our emails are all on bugzilla | |
| 12:20 | > i haven't noticed 'being spammend to death' yet :) | |
| 12:20 | One needs to be logged to see it. | |
| 12:20 | *One needs to be logged to see it. | |
| 12:20 | But it's in git, your point is valid | |
| 12:46 | @later tell josef_moravec bug 24043 in master, yay! :D | |
| 12:46 | huginn | tuxayo: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:57 | tuxayo | thanks cait for clearing the doubts about whether to SO bug 24772 |
| 12:57 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24772 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , Deactivating Course Reserves reverts Item's Shelving Location, then deleting the same course reverts/empties Course Reserve Values |
| 13:01 | cait | i am trying :) |
| 13:05 | tuxayo | That was enough for me :) I was hesitating and not far from the limit of whether to sign off or not. |
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| 13:07 | tuxayo | Does anyone know something relevant to sign off on this feature freeze day? |
| 13:09 | cait | did you see the keywords we use? |
| 13:10 | ground rule... all the bugs | |
| 13:10 | RM_priority and rel_20_05 | |
| 13:10 | bugs (like in not enh) | |
| 13:10 | rel_20_05_candidate it is | |
| 13:13 | 10910 maybe | |
| 13:13 | 17355 | |
| 13:13 | ah, there are just too many | |
| 13:14 | * ashimema[m] | should clean up that list again |
| 13:14 | ashimema[m] | it's been at least a few days since I looked at it. |
| 13:16 | * cait | has to keep an eye on her pasta |
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| 13:38 | tuxayo | cait: I monitor rel_20_05 but not RM_priority thanks for the pointer |
| 13:39 | cait | yw :) |
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| 14:02 | cait | perfect holiday... watching cooking shows and bugs being resolved |
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| 14:03 | tuxayo | bug cooking! :D |
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| 14:46 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24772: Don't revert course item fields when deleting a course item unless it... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3128ec147138cfa49> |
| 14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 25127: Use Koha::Number::Price->round for comparison <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53858b2df9ef3f2a3> | |
| 14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 25127: Correction to tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d66acd53c7f16856c> | |
| 14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 25127: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc904fe2107149d2a> | |
| 14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 25119: Fix account type and description for individual writeoffs/payments <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]282f9f8c136feb567> | |
| 14:50 | ashimema[m] | Joubu around? |
| 14:50 | or anyone else who understand the translation process? | |
| 14:52 | * oleonard | ponders whether anyone can REALLY understand the translation process |
| 14:52 | cait | oleonard: i wonder about the new navigation |
| 14:52 | should we make it "Library" if there is only one? | |
| 14:53 | ashimema[m]: understaind it partially i guess? | |
| 14:53 | ashimema[m] | +1 |
| 14:54 | I've got a report that the account.pref file is untranslatable.. | |
| 14:54 | cait | hm interesting |
| 14:54 | ashimema[m] | but in my understanding it works the same as the others |
| 14:54 | cait | it's new - where have they checked? |
| 14:54 | ashimema[m] | so I'm wondering what I've missed. |
| 14:54 | I've emailed bernardo to beg for help ;) | |
| 14:56 | cait | it looks like LangInstaller.pm is handling these |
| 14:56 | ashimema[m] | indeed |
| 14:56 | haha.. | |
| 14:56 | tuxayo | cait: So much mid-air collisions on bug 23185! |
| 14:56 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23185 major, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Koha::Objects supports passing through 'update' which means we can side step 'set' + 'store' |
| 14:56 | ashimema[m] | I see the problem |
| 14:56 | tuxayo | This time ashimema pushed to master before cait could fix the patch with the updated test plan and their sign off. |
| 14:56 | ashimema[m] | the thing they're compaining about nto being able to traslate isn't in mster! |
| 14:56 | cait | yep |
| 14:56 | tuxayo | So you got denied your sign off twice in a row :P |
| 14:57 | * cait | blames ashimema[m] |
| 14:57 | cait | twice even? |
| 14:57 | ashimema[m]: that would devinitely explain it | |
| 14:57 | * cait | closes the file |
| 14:58 | tuxayo | cait: «twice even?» |
| 14:58 | First was Hannah's signoff | |
| 14:58 | cait | you said twice in a row |
| 14:58 | i am aware of Hannah | |
| 14:58 | but what was the other? | |
| 15:00 | ashimema[m] | what have I done? |
| 15:00 | oleonard | cait: I had the same thought about single libraries but I wasn't sure how to resolve it efficiently |
| 15:01 | tuxayo | Ho wait mid air collisions were on bug 24772, I got confused |
| 15:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24772 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to master , Deactivating course reserves before deleting the same course empties course reserve values in the items |
| 15:01 | ashimema[m] | what did I do in bug 23185? |
| 15:02 | tuxayo | ashimema: nothing on this one, I mixed up numbers |
| 15:02 | cait | oleonard: we still got singlebranchmode as a variable |
| 15:03 | tuxayo | cait: Martin pushed to master 15 sec after you reintroduced your signoff. So your signoff and amended test plan where there. |
| 15:03 | ashimema[m] | dang.. |
| 15:04 | cait | no they were not - because he took some tim eot test before pushing |
| 15:04 | * cait | has fun blaming ashimema[m] :P |
| 15:04 | tuxayo | *where not there |
| 15:05 | ashimema[m] | better ;P |
| 15:05 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24772: Don't revert course item fields when deleting a course item unless it... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6b362f7f4df604839> |
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| 15:07 | tuxayo | cait: in other words: the fix for the first signoff denial (due to mid air collision) didn't got included in master due to another mid air collision. |
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| 15:07 | tuxayo | That's why I'm laughing and can't focus to type stuff that doesn't add more confusion (which is even funnier) |
| 15:09 | cait | oleonard: i added a small follow-up - do you ant to have a look? |
| 15:09 | bug 13388 still | |
| 15:09 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13388 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Add library pages to the OPAC |
| 15:09 | oleonard | Yes, after this koha-us meeting |
| 15:09 | cait | of course |
| 15:09 | hope it goes well! | |
| 15:09 | tuxayo | ashimema: «NOTE: Empty commit simply to restore the updated test plan and QA signoff» |
| 15:09 | Nice trick, I was wondering how to fix stuff that has been pushed to master. | |
| 15:10 | ashimema[m] | I use it to add in sponsors fairly often.. |
| 15:10 | if you take a near the end of the last cycle you'll see loads of them ;) | |
| 15:10 | they take up next to zero space but make the release notes look much nicer ;) | |
| 15:11 | `--allow-empty` is the magic incantation to get git to let you do it ;) | |
| 15:13 | oh cool.. so it bug 13388 good to go :) | |
| 15:13 | I'll wait | |
| 15:14 | tuxayo | > magic incantation to get git to let you do it |
| 15:14 | hoooo :D | |
| 15:14 | *hoooo :D | |
| 15:15 | ashimema[m] | wow.. 55 candidates still.. I bet go take a look at some of those |
| 15:17 | tuxayo | Only one passed QA but there are more than 25 signed off |
| 15:18 | ashimema[m] | yeah.. impressed |
| 15:18 | well done | |
| 15:18 | tuxayo | And half are enh |
| 15:19 | cait | another pqa incoming |
| 15:20 | QA has side effects... every time I look at bugzilla buttons I think "wrong capitalization!" | |
| 15:21 | ashimema[m] | wow.. some of these were really lofty goals.. they just got translated from targets to candidates.. I missed a few when I did that transision a few weeks back |
| 15:21 | Deprecate non-XSLT detail and result views | |
| 15:21 | hahaha.. like I was going to manage to get that one done in two cycles | |
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| 15:24 | tuxayo | cait++ |
| 15:24 | ashimema++ | |
| 15:24 | For shoveling QAing and RMing :) | |
| 15:24 | Bugs are getting cooked! | |
| 15:24 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:24 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 15:24 | cait | Post your comments on this item. < would someone oppose to change that? |
| 15:24 | item is misleading for translations | |
| 15:24 | i wonder if we could make it title or record | |
| 15:25 | ashimema[m] | I'd say it depends.. |
| 15:25 | cait | it shows when you add a comment in the opac |
| 15:25 | ashimema[m] | are you reporting things about the data or things about the physical manifestation |
| 15:26 | I'd say 'title' or 'record' then.. | |
| 15:26 | cait | i'd day mostly they'd talk about the content |
| 15:26 | ashimema[m] | if it was 'This book has a page missing' then I'd stick to 'item' |
| 15:26 | cait | but i could imagine someone commenting on the great binding? heh |
| 15:26 | ashimema[m] | lol |
| 15:26 | cait | but you are commenting on record level |
| 15:26 | so if there is 20 items | |
| 15:26 | ashimema[m] | we have 'report a problem' for that to some level now |
| 15:26 | cait | you'd better tell at the circ desk |
| 15:26 | or use the checkout notes :) | |
| 15:26 | no | |
| 15:27 | that is the review feature | |
| 15:27 | ashimema[m] | certainly if you're commenting on title level it should nto be item :) |
| 15:27 | cait | i am talking about |
| 15:27 | ashimema[m] | go for it cait |
| 15:27 | cait | so does title work? |
| 15:27 | or... work? or... | |
| 15:27 | ? | |
| 15:27 | ashimema[m] | title works for me |
| 15:28 | cait | I'll write up a bug |
| 15:29 | ashimema[m] | I shuold really finish bug 23091 now that the circ rules stuff is in.. that was my blocker |
| 15:29 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23091 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, ASSIGNED , Restore Forgiven Overdue Fines When Lost Item Returned |
| 15:29 | ashimema[m] | but I don't know that I have the brain power to get back there before release |
| 15:30 | cait | i feel you |
| 15:30 | brain power wise | |
| 15:32 | ashimema[m] | anyone looking to QA bug 14957? |
| 15:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, Signed Off , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import |
| 15:32 | ashimema[m] | I know that one would make lots of people happy.. but it's pretty big |
| 15:33 | I feel like I want a PITA tester to work through that one.. cait or kidclamp for example | |
| 15:33 | they're pretty good at catching the things I'd likely miss | |
| 15:33 | cait | I want it so much |
| 15:34 | but i didn't find hte brain power for it :( | |
| 15:34 | maybe we should schedule it | |
| 15:34 | ashimema[m] | hmm.. it could still make it. |
| 15:34 | cait | poke at it together simultanously |
| 15:34 | to cheer us on | |
| 15:34 | oh so tempting | |
| 15:35 | ashimema[m] | I'd be willing to make an exception for that one if we have a decent plan to get it done |
| 15:35 | cait | hmmm |
| 15:35 | ashimema[m] | fancy poking it together next week then cait? |
| 15:35 | cait | yeah |
| 15:35 | today is a little late now, but we coul dmaybe make it work some afternoon next week? | |
| 15:35 | usually training in the mornings | |
| 15:35 | ashimema[m] | yeah.. next week works |
| 15:36 | bank holiday friday.. early next week would work though | |
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| 15:37 | oleonard | Do we have a wiki page up for the next release team? Do we have any proposals? |
| 15:38 | ashimema[m] | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_20.11 |
| 15:39 | cait | ashimema[m]: hm check your updates |
| 15:39 | ashimema[m] | fancy being RM oleanard? |
| 15:39 | oleonard | Heck no |
| 15:39 | cait | Use of uninitialized value $interface in concatenation (.) or string at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Languages.pm line 122. |
| 15:39 | Use of uninitialized value $theme in concatenation (.) or string at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/C4/Languages.pm line 122. | |
| 15:39 | Inserting OpacMainUserBlock contents into en news item... | |
| 15:39 | Inserting OpacMainUserBlock contents into de-DE news item... | |
| 15:39 | Inserting OpacMainUserBlock contents into fr-FR news item... ? | |
| 15:40 | oleonard | ashimema[m]: oleopard have small brain |
| 15:40 | ashimema[m] | hehe |
| 15:40 | it's not THAT bad | |
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| 15:43 | tuxayo | oleonard2020! |
| 15:43 | wait | |
| 15:43 | oleonard20.11 | |
| 15:43 | cait | lol |
| 15:44 | tuxayo | cait: that goes for you too :P |
| 15:45 | «cait 20.11!» | |
| 15:46 | ashimema[m] | hehe |
| 15:47 | hmm | |
| 15:47 | there might be a bug in that DB update actually cait | |
| 15:47 | it is very subtly different from the previous incarnation | |
| 15:47 | $langs vs $langs[0] | |
| 15:47 | tuxayo | ashimema: The stats show that you do a lot of SO. Or it's RM counted as SO? |
| 15:48 | ashimema[m] | hard call tuxayo.. |
| 15:48 | I don't do much SO at the moment.. but I do do some.. | |
| 15:49 | the stats do get skewed by being RM.. becaus the RM tests literally everything prior to release so every commit in this cycle will have a final SO line by me. | |
| 15:49 | oleonard | "If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve." |
| 15:49 | ashimema[m] | if you want to get a more 'real' idea of my stats you need to go back 12 months to when I was an RMaint.. |
| 15:50 | Joubu often does some stats at the end of each cycle.. those will be interesting to look at. | |
| 15:51 | anyone able to have a quick look at updatedatebase for me? | |
| 15:51 | in master.. | |
| 15:51 | line 20914 vs line 21933ish | |
| 15:51 | I think the latter one is correct and the former one is wrong.. | |
| 15:52 | but... I'm also not entirely sure now that I've understood how the news blocks work :( | |
| 15:53 | cait | I think the news block migration would be greatly helped by having an 'all languages' option in news |
| 15:53 | so we would just copy it with that option | |
| 15:53 | and people can add their translations | |
| 15:53 | or... if they alread yhave them like we do using css/js don't have to edit all the entries | |
| 15:53 | things would just keep working as before | |
| 15:53 | and much easier database updates | |
| 15:54 | bug 24766 | |
| 15:54 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24766 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Provide an option to show news blocks for all available languages |
| 15:55 | cait | should maybe be "OPAC all" |
| 15:55 | ashimema[m] | I wasn't aware of that.. I thought it did work that way |
| 15:55 | cait | would also mean that if you have only the logo in the header, you don't need to copy that |
| 15:55 | i was too | |
| 15:55 | * ashimema[m] | has a play |
| 15:55 | cait | until i started digging |
| 15:56 | hm there is All | |
| 15:56 | but i tihnk that means staff and OPAC? checking | |
| 15:56 | ashimema[m] | yeah.. that's perhaps why I'm confused |
| 15:56 | I thought 'All' was the 'undef' lang | |
| 15:56 | cait | eah and only news |
| 15:56 | there is no "this textblock - all" | |
| 15:56 | ashimema[m] | gah.. |
| 15:57 | remind me how to install a language | |
| 15:57 | cait | kshell |
| 15:57 | cd misc/translator | |
| 15:57 | perl translate install de-DE | |
| 15:57 | there is a way with package commands but I always forget how | |
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| 15:58 | ashimema[m] | thanks |
| 15:58 | hmm | |
| 15:58 | do we need to finish off some polishing on the installer process? | |
| 15:59 | cait | hm? |
| 15:59 | ashimema[m] | for me that throws errors becuase installer/data/mysql/fr-FR already exists |
| 15:59 | cait | hm |
| 15:59 | kshell? | |
| 15:59 | wahanui | i guess kshell is my friend |
| 15:59 | cait | it might be you can ignore it |
| 15:59 | but i thought we ot rid of that | |
| 15:59 | testing now | |
| 16:00 | ashimema[m] | de-DE installer dir /home/martin/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/de-DE already exists. |
| 16:00 | Delete it if you want to recreate it. | |
| 16:00 | this is a git install ;) | |
| 16:00 | cait | i see what you mean de-DE installer dir /home/vagrant/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/de-DE already exists. |
| 16:00 | Delete it if you want to recreate it. | |
| 16:01 | ashimema[m] | indeed |
| 16:01 | cait | running with -v |
| 16:01 | it looks like it still does a lot of things | |
| 16:02 | it#s the new messages file that is ot working | |
| 16:02 | Install messages (de_DE) | |
| 16:02 | de-DE installer dir /home/vagrant/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/de-DE already exists. | |
| 16:02 | Delete it if you want to recreate it. | |
| 16:02 | ashimema[m] | indeed |
| 16:03 | cait | looking i can see a bug |
| 16:04 | ashimema[m] | ok.. the News stuff doesn't work at all how I thought it did |
| 16:04 | * ashimema[m] | was sure he tested this waaaay back |
| 16:04 | cait | do you understand what i mean? |
| 16:05 | ashimema[m] | sorry.. about News or about the db update.. or about installing translations |
| 16:05 | cait | I think the way we do the transision is a bit too complex... and will require editing a lot of entries for things like the header |
| 16:05 | lol | |
| 16:05 | ashimema[m] | haha |
| 16:05 | cait | i meant about having an 'all languages' entry for the news blocks |
| 16:05 | I am writing up a bug for the installer | |
| 16:06 | ashimema[m] | I thought you added a news entry (which was in the 'default' language.. then you could add translated versions of the same news if you wanted to |
| 16:06 | so yeah.. i thought it did work the way you suggest cait | |
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| 16:07 | cait | i thought that too, that's why i iled the bug after we already moved some |
| 16:07 | bug 25346 | |
| 16:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25346 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Error when installing messages for a language already present in the installation |
| 16:08 | ashimema[m] | ta |
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| 16:16 | ashimema[m] | wow.. the code in here is really scary :( |
| 16:17 | cait | yeah... i thought it probably is :( |
| 16:17 | there are patches to move it all to objects | |
| 16:17 | maybe we should work on those first | |
| 16:17 | ashimema[m] | where? |
| 16:17 | * ashimema[m] | wants to do it |
| 16:17 | cait | sec |
| 16:17 | 22544 | |
| 16:18 | ashimema[m] | ooh.. they're recent |
| 16:18 | cool | |
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| 17:00 | oleonard | It seems like Bug 24766 shouldn't be too hard to solve but initial approach focusing on the template was unsuccessful |
| 17:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24766 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Provide an option to show news blocks for all available languages |
| 17:01 | * oleonard | is also perplexed by the problems with Bug 11994 |
| 17:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11994 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Fix OpenSearch discovery in the OPAC |
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| 17:25 | cait | oleonard: not soure about the content-type lead... |
| 17:25 | the one i linked in the first comment looks the same as ours but works | |
| 17:26 | apart from whitespace... an dpossible 'invisible' things | |
| 17:26 | that's why I thought maybe it was the content-type | |
| 17:27 | oleonard | Feels like it's something about the domain resolution. In my system OPACBaseURL is http://127.0.0.1:8080 and it works. |
| 17:27 | cait | i have also firefox in Ubuntu... have to disappear for a bit now |
| 17:27 | hm i'll see if i can try that quickly | |
| 17:27 | hm same error :( | |
| 17:28 | oleonard | ...and "localhost" works fine for me too :( |
| 17:28 | cait | i compared with the swb one |
| 17:28 | compare | |
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| 17:35 | cait | oleonard: ok, my pidgin died twice trying to share a link with you :( |
| 17:36 | when i ocmpare ours (swb) to koha, koha is all read and looks like errors, but i think the browser tools just doesn't recognize it | |
| 17:36 | but htere is a difference | |
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| 18:35 | tuxayo | ashimema: thanks for the info about SO stats |
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| 18:43 | tuxayo | oleonard: "If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve." |
| 18:43 | Now we could say «oleonardesque statement» when someone makes a clear and direct statement about not doing RM | |
| 18:44 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[…]anesque_statement | |
| 18:44 | *statement reset one each cycle | |
| 18:45 | 😉 | |
| 18:47 | oleonard | I will happily refuse to be RM every six months for the foreseeable future |
| 18:48 | * oleonard | reluctantly leaves to mow the lawn |
| 18:49 | tuxayo | oleonard-away: good mowing! |
| 18:51 | > I will happily refuse to be RM every six months for the foreseeable future | |
| 18:51 | That's cheating! | |
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| 21:06 | davidnind | cait++ |
| 21:06 | cait | just too stubborn |
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| 21:07 | davidnind | yes, it is annoying when you know something should work but doesn't! |
| 21:08 | cait | yep |
| 21:08 | it feels good to find the answer | |
| 21:09 | davidnind | (we've been talking about bug 11994 ) |
| 21:09 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11994 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Fix OpenSearch discovery in the OPAC |
| 21:11 | cait | i am really glad too that this will work now |
| 21:11 | i think it's a cool little feature | |
| 21:12 | davidnind | I always liked OpenSearch, not sure why other browsers no longer support it though |
| 21:12 | cait | oh did they stop supporting it completely? |
| 21:16 | davidnind | I think so, but could be wrong... just from oleonard's comment in the original patch |
| 21:16 | oleonard | I found references to Chrome having dropped support, but it wasn't very clear |
| 21:16 | It's the kind of thing Google would drop for low usage and too much openness. | |
| 21:19 | cait | hmpf |
| 21:22 | davidnind | actually, it kind of works in still Chromium and Google Chrome - it works a bit differently, but you can set your default search engine to be the Koha catalog |
| 21:22 | cait | that's good |
| 21:30 | lukeG1 | oleonard: The "globally-available checkEnter function |
| 21:30 | " you speak of in bz25349 is implemented by javascript? | |
| 21:35 | oleonard | Yes, in staff-global.js |
| 21:35 | Sorry I left out the word JavaScript | |
| 21:35 | It doesn't move the focus to the next field but it prevents the enter key from submitting the form | |
| 21:36 | philor | davidnind: not just default engine, it's just really obscure - visit https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ and then while you're on any site, type enough of the URL in the addressbar to get autocomplete, then hit Tab, then type your search term |
| 21:36 | sorry, that's unclear, "type enough of the bugs.koha-community URL to get autocomplete" | |
| 21:38 | so if your OPAC is at catalog.library.org, cool, your patrons can just type catalo as long as they aren't two-timing you, but if your catalog is at 127.0.0.1:8081, you're going to type a bit to get the proper autocomplete to hit tab on | |
| 21:38 | davidnind | thanks phillor, was just experimenting now, whay didn't I know about this before now! |
| 21:39 | oh cool, you can set a keyword for your "search engine" and then use that in the address bar, for example mycat, then it when you type mycat and then the space bar it changes to "Search Me" and then searches whatever words you put in on the site | |
| 21:44 | philor | "why doesn't Google Chrome do more to promote this feature that will let me search for things without searching for them through google.com?" :) |
| 21:45 | davidnind | lol :) |
| 21:46 | oleonard | Exactly |
| 21:48 | cait: Am I correct in thinking the only documentation we have for the JavaScript translation features is the bug report? | |
| 21:49 | cait | hmm i think julian wrote something up on the wiki, but not sure if that was for js |
| 21:49 | let me have a quick dig | |
| 21:50 | hm wiki is not loading... only for me? | |
| 21:50 | oleonard | When I tried it earlier today it was really slow to respond |
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| 21:53 | cait | seems recovered now |
| 21:54 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lkit_Plugins#I18N | |
| 21:54 | wonderful documentation, but only seems to cover TT | |
| 21:55 | i think that went in first | |
| 21:55 | should we suggest a coding guideline there too? | |
| 21:56 | kidclamp | Cait++ |
| 21:56 | cait | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]bedded_JavaScript |
| 21:56 | i tihn it looks wrong | |
| 21:56 | kidclamp | cait++ |
| 21:56 | cait | it looks ike one underscore when ti should be too? |
| 21:56 | two | |
| 21:56 | what did I do? win a typo prize? :) | |
| 21:57 | kidclamp | Macros! |
| 21:57 | cait | and who is this Cait person??? |
| 21:57 | kidclamp | Heh |
| 21:57 | cait | kidclamp: i will tell you a secret.. the convert icon doesn't show for me in Chromium |
| 21:57 | and can you check my 2 follow-ups? | |
| 21:58 | oleonard | It's correct here: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]linked_JavaScript |
| 21:58 | kidclamp | Hmmm, will check |
| 21:58 | cait | should these be.. merged? |
| 21:59 | oh | |
| 21:59 | one is embedded javascript and the other is javascript files | |
| 21:59 | so we still use _ for embedded then? | |
| 21:59 | * oleonard | doesn't know |
| 22:00 | cait | hm |
| 22:00 | kidclamp: you can also take a look at some of my patches... if you want, they are nice and easy *advertises* | |
| 22:02 | oleonard | kidclamp: Mine are super-sexy and will give you perfect skin and lustrous hair |
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| 22:02 | cait | oleonard: I tihnk this round goes to you :) |
| 22:03 | now i will just have to qa all of yours so he has no choice... | |
| 22:03 | second time today i catch Joubu with a missing filter | |
| 22:03 | lol | |
| 22:05 | just he never misses those :) so it amuses me | |
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| 22:08 | * kidclamp | will try, been underwater with es |
| 22:10 | cait | ah yes, saw new patches |
| 22:10 | can someone help me out with the line for strict sql in koha-conf? | |
| 22:11 | it seems when i reset my kohadevbox it got lost | |
| 22:15 | oleonard | cait: Do you mean the line is missing? |
| 22:15 | <strict_sql_modes>1</strict_sql_modes> | |
| 22:21 | cait | yes! |
| 22:21 | thank you | |
| 22:21 | couldn't spot that on the wiki either | |
| 22:21 | that goes in <config> right? | |
| 22:22 | oleonard | Yes |
| 22:22 | cait | thx |
| 22:22 | shows i almost never destry my box anymore :) | |
| 22:24 | oleonard++ | |
| 22:26 | oleonard | cait: Still haven't made the docker switch, eh? |
| 22:27 | cait | i guess i am slow with such things |
| 22:27 | even after my recent ubuntu update all it needed was a new vagrant | |
| 22:28 | oleonard | I would probably still be on kohadevbox if it hadn't suddenly broken for me |
| 22:28 | cait | i think that's what it will need fo rme to switch |
| 22:28 | but your situation with windows was always more difficult i think | |
| 22:44 | oleonard | See y'all later |
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