IRC log for #koha, 2020-04-09

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06:37 reiveune hello
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07:04 alex_a Bonjour
07:04 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
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07:33 ashimema[m] Morning #koha
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08:39 nugged ashimema[m]:
08:40 morning! :) (very late morning here, Oulu/FI :) )
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09:00 Joubu @later tell amoyano do you remember the bug number you wanted to point me out yesterday? There is no patch from me on 25086 and 23924
09:00 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:05 Joubu @later tell amoyano forget that, morning... got it know, will have a look
09:05 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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10:46 Joubu khall: on bug 22778 you wrote a couple of times "suggestor", is that expected?
10:46 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22778 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Suggestions with no "suggester" can cause errors
10:46 Joubu Do you think suggester should be suggestor?
10:46 We had the discussion at the time you push the method, and it seems that "suggester" is the correct English word
10:46 s/you/we
10:47 khall Joubu you are right
10:48 old habits die hard :)
10:49 Joubu ok, will amend your patch
10:50 khall thanks Joubu!
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10:56 Joubu ashimema[m]: current_timestamp - what do we do?
10:59 enkidu Hi all, anyone tried Virtualbox 6 version in kohadevbox? I tried it didn't work.
11:00 Joubu most of the devs moved to koha-testing-docker
11:00 koha-testing-docker?
11:00 wahanui koha-testing-docker is even more awesome...
11:01 Joubu koha-testing-docker is https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ha-testing-docker
11:03 enkidu Thanks, I'll try.
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12:18 oleonard Hi #koha
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13:12 tcohen enkidu I've just started  a kohadevbox just because
13:12 try to get the latest vagrant
13:12 not the one from the distro
13:12 that's usually to blame
13:12 (macOS here, though)
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14:06 enkidu tcohen I had also updated vagrant maybe error is relevant with this.
14:08 hey devs, I'd like to ask something about patron images. Instead of putting patron images into database we prefer to save them in the directory in some cases.
14:09 Hence, we'd like to write a patch to make possibility of saving patron images in a directory. What do you think about this?
14:09 Joubu What is the use case? Why would it be better?
14:10 enkidu In huge libraries storage in a database will cause some db issues, like backup/restore performance etc.
14:12 also it gives oppurtunity for different backup strategy, different for db abd patron images.
14:12 s/abd/and
14:14 There is also possibility to put images in different disk, this will lead disk I/O performance.
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14:22 Joubu Maybe you should ask the ML if someone else has the need for that?
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14:24 cait1 it makes sense to me to move them out of the db - but it woudl probably require other changes like making sure the backup script take the directory into account etc?
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14:37 tcohen images should be put on the filesystem,. generally
14:38 it allows to handle them more efficiently file access vs. DB connection and data transfer tp the controller
14:38 and also incremental backups
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14:39 tcohen I would support that
14:45 enkidu 2 supporters at least, I've also asked to mail list. I think we'll start to write this patch.
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14:53 cait1 I think the only argument against might be 'ease of backup/restore' - but i think we already have an opton in the koha-dump-thing for the other files we store outside, so that might be reusable
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15:01 reiveune bye
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15:15 ashimema[m] Joubu around?
15:15 just submitted a new patch for bug 25040
15:15 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25040 blocker, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Problematic current_timestamp syntax generated by DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader
15:15 ashimema[m] subclassing seems to have done the trick
15:24 Joubu ashimema[m]: ok thanks, will try tomorrow
15:26 oleonard-away enkidu: How do you think you'll handle the two options? Keep both available? Make it a configuration or a preference?
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15:56 enkidu hi oleonard, we'll try to keep both, but I am not sure how to do yet :) maybe our dev team know.
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16:10 oleonard enkidu: Understandable. It would probably be good to share a proposal with the koha-devel list before starting any development.
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17:24 ashimema[m] meeting?
17:24 wahanui meeting is over :)
17:24 ashimema[m] Oh really.. did I miss it
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18:19 caroline ah crap did I miss the docs meeting?
18:20 georgew I thought the docs meeting started in about 40 minutes
18:21 caroline ah, it was at 1pm in my calendar and it is now pas 2... I'll doblee check
18:21 georgew https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_9_April_2020
18:21 says that it's at 1900 UTC
18:21 caroline you're right!
18:21 phew! thanks george!
18:27 cait oh good
18:28 it thought i had missed it too!
18:28 hm stange, it might be not quite right in the koha calendar
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18:41 caroline must be my fault
18:57 cait @excuse
18:57 huginn cait: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:57 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
18:57 cait hm
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18:59 caroline meeting for real?
19:00 cait yep
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19:00 caroline #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020
19:00 huginn Meeting started Thu Apr  9 19:00:23 2020 UTC.  The chair is caroline. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
19:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
19:00 Topic for #koha is now  (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020)
19:00 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_9_april_2020'
19:00 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_9_April_2020
19:00 #topic Introductions
19:00 Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020)
19:00 caroline Introductions (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes
19:01 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
19:01 caroline #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro
19:01 bibliobabe #info Donna Bachowski, ByWater
19:01 georgew #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System
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19:03 caroline #topic Review of action points
19:03 Topic for #koha is now Review of action points (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020)
19:03 caroline ok so action points from last meeting were
19:04 1) add release notes to taiga (done up to yesterday!)
19:04 cait caroline++
19:04 caroline 2) ask devs to write release note text in their bugs (that was david)
19:04 I've seen a lot of them in the release notes, so he must have passed on the message
19:05 3) create a demo manual with a new theme and a landing page
19:05 (david also) I don't think he had time to do this
19:06 #topic Project updates
19:06 Topic for #koha is now Project updates (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020)
19:06 caroline #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ists_and_projects
19:07 personaly, other than adding release notes to taiga I haven't done anything docs project-related
19:07 but, we did have a hackfest meeting so that was cool!
19:07 anyone have the link?
19:08 bibliobabe https://youtu.be/CY99KAliUqc
19:08 caroline thanks bibliobabe!
19:08 cait bibliobabe++ :)
19:09 Marie-Luce #info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inLibro Montréal
19:10 caroline anyone else have updates?
19:11 cait I noticed some "Manual" bugs in bugzilla in a recent bug review
19:11 they are in documentation and I also marked them with the Manual keyword
19:12 caroline #link https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]=run&sharer_id=13
19:13 some of those seem easy enough, like bug 24036
19:13 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24036 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , UpdateNotForLoanStatusOnCheckin preference requires space after colon (specify in manual)
19:13 caroline maybe a beginner could try it out
19:13 cait some might also be resolved by now and just need checking
19:14 Marie-Luce like me?
19:14 caroline #action check documentation bugs on bugzilla to make sure they are still relevant
19:15 Marie-Luce I'm happy to do it
19:15 caroline ok! thx Marie-Luce!
19:15 #action Marie-Luce will check documentation bugs on bugzilla to make sure they are still relevant
19:16 cait Marie-Luce++ :)
19:16 caroline anything else?
19:16 #action add the youtube link to the editing the koha manual wiki page
19:17 (just thought of this)
19:17 #topic What's been done so far
19:17 Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020)
19:17 caroline We've gotten a couple of commits from kellym and lucyvh
19:18 thank you!
19:18 kellym++ lucyvh++
19:18 cait kellym++ lucyvh++
19:19 bibliobabe kelly wasn't sure if they went through correctly - did she need to do anything differently?
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19:19 caroline I don't think so
19:20 kellym #Kelly McElligott ByWater Solutions
19:20 caroline there was the labeling thing, you have to put the label before the heading
19:20 like .._thing-label:
19:20 and then
19:20 Thing Heading
19:20 kellym #info Kelly McElligott ByWater Solutions
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19:21 caroline and to get the name of the label where you want to link, you have to go and open that chapter and look for the label
19:21 usually it's juste the name of the heading with -label at the end
19:22 does that make sense?
19:24 cait yep
19:24 caroline ok moving on then
19:24 #topic Content development guidelines
19:24 Topic for #koha is now Content development guidelines (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020)
19:24 caroline I don't think anything's been done for the guidelines
19:25 #topic Next steps
19:25 Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020)
19:25 caroline 20.05 is coming out next month (!!!)
19:26 so I'd really like if we could at least have the new features in the manual before the release
19:26 #info priority on 20.05 new features
19:27 I may have a bit of time in the next weeks to work on this since work is a bit slow right now with all the libraries closed
19:28 cait we still got work, but it's changed - it seems everyone is looking for new projects
19:28 caroline if anyone else wants to pitch in, there is the documentation to-do on bugzilla and the to-do on Taiga
19:28 cait I can try and help too the next few days, but a bit out of practice
19:28 caroline #link https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]=run&sharer_id=13
19:28 cait ok :)
19:29 caroline #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]cs-1805/epic/1117
19:29 thx cait! :) I know you must be very busy with qa stuff with the release upon us
19:31 cait too dark to see :)
19:32 jzairo andrew just wrote 2 blog posts on Elastic Search, Configuration and Searching ,we can add that to the manual for Elastic
19:32 kellym we just pushed the bulk edit due dates out- so I can write that one up. If anyone has time to meet with me on uploading images, please reach out!  I have tried to follow the wiki and have failed ;(
19:32 caroline cool!
19:33 kellym: I'll write you an email to meet for the images
19:33 kellym thank you caroline
19:33 caroline if I forget, write me an email! :)
19:33 kellym will do!
19:34 caroline #topic Set time of next meeting
19:34 Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 April 2020)
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19:35 caroline does may 7 look good?
19:35 I'd like to keep it later in the day to have a chance to catch david, is that ok?
19:35 cait ok for me
19:36 caroline #info Next meeting: 7 May 2020, 19 UTC
19:36 #endmeeting
19:36 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org
19:36 huginn Meeting ended Thu Apr  9 19:36:38 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
19:36 Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-09-19.00.html
19:36 Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]0-04-09-19.00.txt
19:36 Log:            http://meetings.koha-community[…]09-19.00.log.html
19:36 caroline thanks everyone!
19:36 bibliobabe be well!
19:37 cait caroline++thx!
19:37 Marie-Luce thanks Caroline
19:39 jzairo caroline++
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20:45 talljoy @later tell oleonard Got the postcard!!!  thanks - very cool!!
20:45 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded.
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