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| 07:04 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 07:05 | ashimema | Mornin'' |
| 07:13 | lilipute1h_asu | morning :) |
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| 07:31 | ashimema | marcelr around? |
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| 07:34 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:34 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
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| 08:03 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 08:06 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21800: (RM follow-up) Fix unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2e62efc8450bfe8a9> |
| 08:07 | ashimema | @later tell marcelr I fixed the tests |
| 08:07 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
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| 08:14 | nlegrand | bon matin |
| 08:14 | ashimema | :) |
| 08:17 | Oooh.. bug 13881 looks very interesting | |
| 08:17 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13881 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Passed QA , Add desk management |
| 08:18 | nlegrand | :) |
| 08:19 | ashimema | Are you going to be around in the coming month to polish that and add any of the enhancements like linking holds to them etc out of interest.. |
| 08:19 | I'll push it regardless a little later today.. but it's always nice to know if there's the intention to keep the ball rolling and polish new features like this.. | |
| 08:20 | nlegrand | Bug 24201 attach the current desk to the session |
| 08:20 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24201 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Needs Signoff , Attach desk to intranet session |
| 08:20 | * ashimema | wonders if cash registers may link to these at all |
| 08:21 | ashimema | nice |
| 08:21 | I need to add a similar patch for doing that with cash registers | |
| 08:21 | cait | i don't think it's the same concept |
| 08:21 | ashimema | different use, but similar concepts |
| 08:22 | cait | overlapping maybe :) |
| 08:22 | * ashimema | goes for breakfast |
| 08:22 | ashimema | indeed |
| 08:22 | nlegrand | when a desk is defined, all books checked in and put in waiting reserve is attached to the desk with Bug 24412 |
| 08:22 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24412 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nicolas.legrand, Needs Signoff , Attach waiting reserve to desk |
| 08:23 | nlegrand | I'm confined and working on this and various plugin is my priority for the next weeks :) |
| 08:27 | cait | plugins? |
| 08:27 | wahanui | plugins are really a free area in terms of how to do things. The KitchenSink plugin has a sample endpoint, and there's also the bibliocommons one I wrote https://github.com/thekesoluti[…]gin-bibliocommons |
| 08:29 | nlegrand | cait: yes, I'll try something for reserving books that are not in Koha but only in card catalogs and something for closed stacks requests. |
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| 08:30 | cait | both use cases sound familiar |
| 08:30 | nlegrand | I thought of something watching on shelves reserves for books located in closed stacks, it produce a list for staff who goes fetching the books |
| 08:31 | cait | the not in Koha we call something like... 'free entry hold requests' |
| 08:31 | just giving the callnumber and some more info for serials usually | |
| 08:31 | w edon't have it for Koha, but I have seen it on other ILS | |
| 08:31 | nlegrand | at the desk, they check in the books which are then in waiting reserve and attach to the desk. |
| 08:32 | cait | yeah makes sense |
| 08:33 | nlegrand | cait: if you think the free entry hold request is more legit in Koha I can do it as a bugzilla. |
| 08:34 | cait | hm difficult question |
| 08:35 | you might it get working faster for you as a plugin, but I think it's interesting in some speicla library/big universities context | |
| 08:35 | nlegrand | It would add a few more sysprefs... |
| 08:36 | Well, I'll try to make the plugin translatable from scratch and translate it to french and german. | |
| 08:36 | cait | i can help with german for sure |
| 08:36 | let me know when you are ready and happy to provide translations | |
| 08:37 | nlegrand | sure! |
| 08:38 | ashimema | team++ |
| 08:39 | Plugins are a good way to introduce a new feature.. you can always migrate them into core later if they prove great | |
| 08:43 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 08:43 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 08:43 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #204: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/204/ |
| 08:53 | cait | ashimema: do we have an 'official' way to provide tanslatability for plugins now? |
| 08:54 | Joubu | see tcohen's plugins |
| 08:55 | kohaputti | is a virtual hackfest going on? |
| 08:55 | cait | yes |
| 08:55 | * kohaputti | is late to the party |
| 08:55 | cait | a little :) but it's never too late |
| 08:55 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #777: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/777/ |
| 08:58 | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #229: STILL UNSTABLE in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/229/ | |
| 09:14 | ashimema | tcohens are the example I believe |
| 09:15 | We could do with adopting a popular plugin into community and showcaseing some best practices using it.. | |
| 09:15 | that's my feeling | |
| 09:15 | I was thinking the recalls plugin perhaps.. | |
| 09:16 | By the time we come to release I'd really like to have dropped the ptfs-e, bywater and theke config block for installing plugins directly from github and replaced it with a koha-community one | |
| 09:17 | I'd also really like to see at least one fully translated and signed/varified plugin in such a repository | |
| 09:17 | as ever.. too many things to do | |
| 09:18 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 09:18 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 09:18 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1235: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1235/ |
| 09:18 | Joubu | not sure we have the people to review and maintain plugins... |
| 09:21 | ashimema | yet you seemed hugely anti plugins without them being centrally managed and maintained last I spoke to you Joubu ? |
| 09:23 | cait | we could start with adding the functionality to kitchen sink |
| 09:23 | for devs it might be the best way to start and see | |
| 09:24 | not a lot to translate there - but that might even help things | |
| 09:26 | Joubu | I was wondering why putting some default in the config, and why them not others. But you said you will remove them before the release, I am happy with that. |
| 09:27 | ashimema | indeed |
| 09:27 | feel free to remind me.. I have a calendar reminder set but an extra poke certainly won't go a miss ;) | |
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| 09:43 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: DBRev 19.12.00.055 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]66f82f5af41815cd0> |
| 09:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: (QA follow-up) Fix links to patron records (TT variable confusion) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bb52abeb240e63ff7> | |
| 09:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 24745: (follow-up) Correct return statement in news plugin <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53dc95fd5d831bf7f> | |
| 09:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: DBIC Changes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f5f51b079c756f20c> | |
| 09:43 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: Fix 'select manager' when creation a suggestion <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3f2f893ef52ea0b25> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: Create a separate template notice NOTIFY_MANAGER <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]55d3963895e819921> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: Fix ergonomic issue if last modification by is empty <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2a4e4e665e3efd7c5> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: Update new fields with relevant values <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c9c7c897349667aa5> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 24745: OPAC news block plugin should evaluate as false if there are no items <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f94330995663e6937> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: Remove unused variable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ab06a88ba203a2c4b> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: (QA follow-up) Fix some problems created by recent changes and updatedatab... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]483459329ec693b91> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: (QA follow-up) Add missing filters and drop script type <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]107c9241c0cbafef0> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 24185: Make holds page fast when 'on shelf holds' set to 'If all unavailable' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b75408cfebd2518da> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 24185: Make holds page faster: Preparatory refactoring <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9c423a4a05e89557> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 24185: Make holds page faster - Call to subroutine moved below "if" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a4b6cbd7fe3d72890> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 24185: Make holds page faster - Improved "if" <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]929b11f7cfdcdb031> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: Fix select manager on list for all tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]56085547360480dcd> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: Remove JS error on the suggestion list <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0a4d405ce7fc2fe19> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: Add atomic update file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ecb827c3c17b6c8a7> | |
| 09:44 | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: Add lastmodification by and date columns <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bd8c6a214d6638f25> | |
| 09:45 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 09:45 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 09:45 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #700: FIXED in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/700/ |
| 09:46 | ashimema | fixed and pushed ready to break again :P |
| 09:50 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 09:50 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 09:50 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #150: FIXED in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/150/ |
| 10:10 | magnuse | ashimema++ |
| 10:19 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1236: UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1236/ |
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| 10:31 | fridolin | hi dear community |
| 10:31 | hack hack hack does the keyboard ;) | |
| 10:32 | Joubu | we really need bug 24964 |
| 10:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24964 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Do not filter patrons AFTER they have been fetched from the DB (when searching with permissions) |
| 10:32 | Joubu | fridolin: you should like that ^ ;) |
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| 10:32 | fridolin | ooooh i try it |
| 10:32 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #701: UNSTABLE in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/701/ |
| 10:33 | fridolin | Joubu: non yet on the trello ? |
| 10:34 | Joubu | I submitted the patch 1 min ago ;) |
| 10:36 | fridolin | ^^ |
| 10:36 | one question, C4::Utils::DataTables::Members::search( permission => 'suggestions', | |
| 10:37 | liliputech_asu | hi, I'm trying to have a look at bz15522 but patch doesn't apply on master (although all dependancies are pushed to master?) :-' |
| 10:37 | fridolin | why this permission since whe search for subpermission => 'suggestions_manage' ? |
| 10:37 | Bug 15522 | |
| 10:37 | wahanui | hmmm... Bug 15522 is the right place |
| 10:37 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
| 10:37 | liliputech_asu | wanted to have a look at how it might look in the future =) |
| 10:40 | ok, maybe I'm just doing smthg wrong, keep trying here | |
| 10:42 | fridolin | liliputech_asu: yolo, maybe master moved a bit since the patches have been created |
| 10:42 | its moves a lot during HF | |
| 10:42 | Joubu | liliputech_asu: use the remote branch |
| 10:43 | fridolin: I do not understand which lines you are talking about | |
| 10:43 | fridolin: it's has_permission => { permission => 'suggestions', subpermission => 'suggestions_manage' } | |
| 10:47 | ashimema | bug 24964 is awesome Joubu! |
| 10:47 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24964 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Do not filter patrons AFTER they have been fetched from the DB (when searching with permissions) |
| 10:48 | cait | :) Joubu++ |
| 10:48 | Joubu | I implemented it wrong, I had to fix it ;) |
| 10:48 | ashimema | Hmm.. |
| 10:49 | :) | |
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| 10:50 | * ashimema | ponder which bug he just pushed that adds a notice without adding a sample notice |
| 10:50 | Joubu | ha, 23590! |
| 10:50 | the translated notices were missing | |
| 10:50 | ashimema | manager suggestions perhaps |
| 10:51 | aha.. of course | |
| 10:51 | it's soooo easy to miss those | |
| 10:52 | liliputech_asu | hi Joubu, have used your remote branch, looks nice =) |
| 10:52 | ashimema | I can add them as an RM followup now unless you're already on it Joubu |
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| 10:52 | liliputech_asu | I really like the "rule type" filter where you can select "circulation/fines/holds" |
| 10:54 | Joubu: is it supposed to show rules from top to bottom, "less specific" to "much specific" ? | |
| 10:55 | fridolin | Joubu: ah I see, this can only have one (sub)permission |
| 10:56 | Joubu | liliputech_asu: how that? You should see the value or the inherited value |
| 10:56 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #230: STILL UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/230/ |
| 10:56 | Joubu | fridolin: yes, that's the limitation, but there are only few cases. Not need to complicate the code so far |
| 10:57 | fridolin: limitation existed prior to this change anyway | |
| 10:58 | liliputech_asu | Joubu: I'm playing with the interface now with one of our colleague, want to join us? |
| 10:58 | cait | i am taking care of the demo page change from the mailing list |
| 10:58 | liliputech_asu | Joubu: we're here if you have 5 mn https://jitsi.biblibre.com/pairingdidg |
| 10:59 | oh, colleague seems to be gone for lunch ^^ | |
| 11:00 | so will I. bon appétit! | |
| 11:03 | Joubu | liliputech_asu: let me know when you are back |
| 11:10 | cait | ashimema: i think i missed that the database update for desks has no check for existence for the table |
| 11:10 | ashimema | Oops.. I should have spotted that |
| 11:12 | cait | for bug 23590: do we still need to add translated notices? |
| 11:12 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23590 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Allow to modify and notify the manager of a suggestion |
| 11:12 | cait | i have to admit, i am not sure how it works with the new system |
| 11:12 | i thought po files were taking care of it or so | |
| 11:13 | can someone bring me up to speed? :) | |
| 11:14 | Joubu | oleonard: I cannot test bug 24710, reports do not save in the last step (but same behavior on master) |
| 11:14 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24710 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Signed Off , patron-title.inc should have seperate span classes for firstname, othername, surname |
| 11:14 | Joubu | I removed strict_sql_modes => same problem |
| 11:14 | nothing in the logs | |
| 11:14 | same for you? | |
| 11:15 | cait | i think there i a bug with caching |
| 11:15 | do you have memcached? | |
| 11:15 | Joubu | of course |
| 11:15 | the issue is without memcached IIRC | |
| 11:16 | cait | looking for the bug, will put it on trello |
| 11:16 | Joubu | cait: we are not able to translate the .txt for languages not in intaller/data/mysql/$LANG. Now we can (via pootle), but the .sql from installer dirs have priority over "'en' translated" |
| 11:17 | /not/now | |
| 11:17 | this sentence does not mean anything, getting hungry! | |
| 11:17 | cait | oh good |
| 11:17 | so it's not me, i am tired :) | |
| 11:17 | can we try again? | |
| 11:18 | Joubu | prior to 20.05, other languages (the ones not in intaller/data/mysql/, it-IT, es-ES, fr-FR, etc.) were not able to have translated files, the ones from 'en' were installed |
| 11:19 | cait | yep |
| 11:19 | Joubu | now, the 'en' .sql files are moved to yaml, and the strings are picked to have them on pootle |
| 11:19 | on release we will have them in po, and the SQL queries will be generated using the translated strings | |
| 11:19 | cait | does it actually still add .sql files? |
| 11:19 | Joubu | BUT, for existing languages (the historic one, fr-FR, de-DE, etc.) we still use the sql |
| 11:20 | cait | or does it do it only when you install a language? or generate sql from yaml |
| 11:20 | bernardo asked me if i want to get rid of them | |
| 11:20 | i only have one fie that i am not sure about | |
| 11:20 | sysprefs.sql | |
| 11:20 | Joubu | So, when a new stuff is added to yaml, we still need to add them to historic translated files |
| 11:20 | cait | it does some config changes, like setting the dateformat etc. |
| 11:20 | it's an old 'feature' | |
| 11:20 | is there a way to bring old and new together? | |
| 11:21 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #778: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/778/ |
| 11:21 | Joubu | yes, remove the specific changes (by removing the de-DE dir) and rely on the 'en' yaml/pootle to have the translated strings |
| 11:22 | * ashimema | wants to see the specific dir's gone |
| 11:22 | Joubu | almost impossible with fr-FR... |
| 11:22 | cait | yeah,b ut then i can't have my sysprefs.sql file, can't i? |
| 11:22 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #205: UNSTABLE in 49 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/205/ |
| 11:22 | ashimema | we need to get the po's populated as a first step to that I thought |
| 11:22 | hmm.. | |
| 11:23 | why is it impossible with the fr-FR one Joubu? | |
| 11:23 | Joubu | but we need for the unmaintained ones (uk-UA, pl-PL, ru-RU) at least |
| 11:23 | unimarc | |
| 11:23 | cait | ashimema: they messed with file structure |
| 11:23 | more meaning, different directories | |
| 11:23 | Joubu | there are too many specific changes there |
| 11:23 | cait | yeah |
| 11:23 | german is exactly like the english | |
| 11:23 | with the addition of the sysprefs file i'd like to keep somehow | |
| 11:23 | Joubu | so get rid of it, asap ;) |
| 11:23 | cait | it makes language specific settings |
| 11:24 | ashimema | so they're not 'translation' as much as they're 'localisation' |
| 11:24 | cait | both |
| 11:24 | ashimema | which pootle isn't designed for right.. |
| 11:24 | am I understanding that right.. | |
| 11:24 | cait | borrowerrelationships |
| 11:24 | Joubu | Bernardo already picked the strings from the installer/ dirs, and put them on pootle (I think, if not done he will do) |
| 11:24 | cait | is one |
| 11:24 | mother|father is default | |
| 11:24 | ashimema | as in.. they don't just change language.. they actually set different defaults and things |
| 11:24 | cait | dateformat, timeformat |
| 11:24 | currencyformat | |
| 11:25 | Joubu | that's not a problem, we could deal with that |
| 11:25 | like another yaml to set default depending on locales | |
| 11:25 | cait | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53dc95fd5d831bf7f |
| 11:25 | Joubu | the problem with fr-FR is mainly the frameworks |
| 11:26 | 39 UPDATE systempreferences SET value = 'de-DE,en' WHERE variable = 'language'; | |
| 11:26 | 40 UPDATE systempreferences SET value = 'de-DE,en' WHERE variable = 'opaclanguages'; | |
| 11:26 | that's done | |
| 11:26 | (not pushed yet) | |
| 11:26 | cait | yeah |
| 11:26 | i think borrowerstitles is going away too | |
| 11:26 | moved to an authorised value | |
| 11:26 | Joubu | borrowerRelationship and BorrowersTitles must be translated, if not possible yet (need to check) |
| 11:27 | 22 UPDATE systempreferences SET value = 'FR' WHERE variable = 'CurencyFormat'; | |
| 11:27 | 23 UPDATE systempreferences SET value = 'de' WHERE variable = 'AddressFormat'; | |
| 11:27 | cait | these are localizations |
| 11:27 | Joubu | that must be moved to a separate file, a global file where we list the default per region |
| 11:27 | ashimema | agreed |
| 11:27 | cait | so how would we trigger making the correct settings? |
| 11:27 | ashimema | we've made a great start here.. it would be really good to keep the momentum and see it through |
| 11:27 | Joubu | cait: open a bug report, depends on it for your de-DE removal, and I will try to deal with it |
| 11:28 | cait | hm ok, i will add one like bernardo has for es-eS and depend it |
| 11:28 | ashimema | Joubu++ |
| 11:28 | cait | i am also going to add one for a follow-up on the receive/currnecy/preselect we talked about |
| 11:28 | wahanui | okay, cait. |
| 11:28 | cait | oh wahanui |
| 11:29 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #151: UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/151/ |
| 11:30 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 23355: (RM follow-up) Make DB update idempotent <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]31fa63e8c3a431899> |
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| 11:31 | Joubu | sysprefs' values are not translatable |
| 11:32 | we need bug 20307, for sysprefs | |
| 11:32 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20307 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Language overlay for authorized values |
| 11:32 | cait | yah, but won't solve the on install problem,... does it? |
| 11:32 | Joubu | but I am not sure I will continue to work on that, not enough interest from the community |
| 11:32 | no | |
| 11:32 | * ashimema | keeps poking that one |
| 11:33 | thinks it's back on caits pile at the moment | |
| 11:33 | ashimema | I'm interested.. |
| 11:33 | I keep pushing for people to test it.. | |
| 11:35 | fridolin | Joubu: for 24964 : push @where, 'borrowers.flags = 1 OR borrowers.flags & (1 << ?) OR module_bit=? AND code=?' |
| 11:35 | whe should add parenthesis to have better understanding of boolean relastion no ? | |
| 11:36 | Joubu | fridolin: yes, I added it to one, but not the other |
| 11:36 | * fridolin | (sub)permissions is hell |
| 11:37 | Joubu | fridolin: j'ai modifié le patch |
| 11:37 | fridolin | cool ;) |
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| 11:45 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:46 | cait | hi oleonard |
| 11:46 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 11:50 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 23590: Add notice template for translated installer files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]be993dfec3bcd2491> |
| 11:51 | Joubu | oleonard: Hi Owen, I cannot test bug 24710, reports do not save in the last step (but same behavior on master). |
| 11:51 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24710 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Signed Off , patron-title.inc should have seperate span classes for firstname, othername, surname |
| 11:52 | oleonard | Joubu is that the wrong bug number? I don't understand |
| 12:02 | Did you hear? All the latest virus icons!! https://fontawesome.com/changelog/latest | |
| 12:02 | :| | |
| 12:02 | fridolin | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=24964#c4 |
| 12:02 | huginn | Bug 24964: major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Do not filter patrons AFTER they have been fetched from the DB (when searching with permissions) |
| 12:03 | fridolin | UT is greate but often difficult |
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| 12:04 | oleonard | kidclamp, why Bug 24968 when you have the enticingly low number Bug 7972 |
| 12:04 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add Syspref controls for cronjobs |
| 12:04 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7972 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , GUI for Crons | |
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| 12:11 | ashimema | Hell yes.. grab the low bug numbre! |
| 12:11 | magnuse | gui for crons! yes! |
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| 12:12 | cait | huh? |
| 12:12 | hi Marie-Luce | |
| 12:12 | Marie-Luce | goodmorning |
| 12:13 | Hi cait | |
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| 12:29 | kidclamp | oleonard: well, the lower one wants to set timing too - while I said params could be involved I think we just want an ON/OFF switch to start - these should both probably be about 12 bugs :-) but mark duplicate as you see fit |
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| 12:30 | Joubu | oleonard: sorry, I meant 24886 |
| 12:30 | bug 24886 | |
| 12:30 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24886 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Reindent reports template |
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| 12:33 | oleonard | Joubu: Guided report doesn't save, or SQL report? |
| 12:33 | I don't have that problem | |
| 12:33 | Joubu | guided reports |
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| 12:35 | oleonard | Weird |
| 12:36 | Joubu | oleonard: which DBMS do you have? |
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| 12:37 | kidclamp | strict mode Joubu ? |
| 12:38 | Joubu | I tried both |
| 12:40 | still no luck with latest mariaDB | |
| 12:44 | cait | wasn't it the cache? |
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| 12:45 | Joubu | cait: the cache? |
| 12:45 | cait | the not saving reports |
| 12:45 | Joubu | bug 24614 |
| 12:45 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24614 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Can't edit reports if not using cache |
| 12:45 | Joubu | that? |
| 12:45 | wahanui | somebody said that was what blou added in his patch |
| 12:45 | cait | yes |
| 12:45 | Joubu | I do not think so, I do not see anything in the logs |
| 12:46 | Why is not that pushed already?.. | |
| 12:46 | I have memcached anyway, so should not be that | |
| 12:47 | cait | kidclamp: can you ping jz for me? :) |
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| 12:49 | kidclamp | yes |
| 12:50 | magnuse | kidclamp: i'd say the old bug can be repurposed, since noone ever worked on it, and your idea will be a good start. is it something you plan to work on, btw? |
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| 12:53 | lilipute1h_asu | Joubu: back :) |
| 12:53 | caroline | good morning everyone! |
| 12:54 | there is a documentation hackfest presentation in 5 minutes, if anyone is interested! | |
| 12:54 | Joubu | liliputech_asu: still need me? |
| 12:55 | caroline | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ual_Hackfest_2020 |
| 12:55 | liliputech_asu | Joubu: managed to setup everything for bug15522, won't mind have a quick chat about it =) |
| 12:56 | i can also attend the documentation hackfest | |
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| 12:58 | Joubu | oleonard: can you confirm you are doing that: on master, /cgi-bin/koha/reports/guided_reports.pl?phase=Build new |
| 12:59 | cait | link on the trello and the wiki :) |
| 12:59 | Joubu | next, next, select borrowernumber, next, next, next, finish, save |
| 12:59 | f*** | |
| 12:59 | oleonard: sorry, forget that | |
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| 13:00 | Joubu | there is another step after that actually |
| 13:00 | I was expecting the report to be saved after clicking "Save", but actually there is another screen and I need to click "Save report" to have is saved | |
| 13:00 | silly me, "save" does not save | |
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| 13:02 | liliputech_asu | caroline: on the virtual_hackfest wiki but can't see where the meeting actually takes place (virtually) youtube is just a stream, right? |
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| 13:04 | kidclamp | liliputech_asu: https://zoom.us/j/264179084 |
| 13:05 | oops, maybe that is only for panel | |
| 13:08 | liliputech_asu | kidclamp: ahem... network slowwww... caaaaannn't loooooowaad ppaaaaaggeeees... thanks anyway :) |
| 13:09 | lisettelatah | If anyone wants to view the stream for the documentation hackfest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_T4C6N3qKQ |
| 13:10 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #153: STILL UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/153/ |
| 13:16 | Joubu | It exploded for me |
| 13:16 | cait | caroline: we need you! |
| 13:17 | caroline | sorry! We haven't even started the meeting yet! It's just everyone trying to get their things to work... -_- |
| 13:17 | cait | oh noe :) |
| 13:17 | they asked me where to file documentation bugs | |
| 13:17 | :) | |
| 13:18 | caroline | on bugzilla |
| 13:18 | * ashimema | can't join.. kids are eating all the bandwidth with a youtube lesson of their own |
| 13:18 | cait | so not taiga not gitlab? |
| 13:18 | caroline | no I think bugzilla is fine |
| 13:19 | I'm pretty sure that's what we decided in a meeting | |
| 13:19 | oleonard | ashimema, Lesson, or "lesson?" My son has been studying... mining... ;) |
| 13:19 | Joubu | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]a-manual/-/issues |
| 13:19 | there are opened issues there | |
| 13:19 | ashimema | lol |
| 13:19 | caroline | but those are more for us I think |
| 13:19 | Joubu | so let's say both :D |
| 13:20 | ashimema | I would say issues about how the documentation is produced and the workflows go into gitlab |
| 13:20 | issues with the documentation itself.. i.e. things missing, typo's etc go on bugzilla | |
| 13:20 | caroline | exactly |
| 13:20 | ashimema | but that's just my own feeling and how I've sort of used it |
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| 13:21 | caroline | I agree with you ashimema |
| 13:22 | corilynn | I was a mining engineer for like 30 seconds in college, oleonard ... They gave me money |
| 13:23 | OMG, I just looked out the window, they are putting out Fiber in my neighborhood! | |
| 13:23 | caroline | omg, as things are going I'm going to miss the whole docs thing huhu... |
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| 13:28 | cait | oh no :( |
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| 13:33 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 13:33 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 13:48 | fridolin | liliputech_asu: Bug 21301 i added you in cc |
| 13:48 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21301 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Failed QA , Restriction of the informations given by GetRecords ILS-DI service |
| 13:48 | fridolin | i'd like your opinion on it |
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| 13:51 | liliputech_asu | fridolin: okay =) |
| 13:55 | ashimema | incoming |
| 13:55 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24455: (follow-up) Document function <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bac1da3bc9e1f4eed> |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24886: (follow-up) Add markup comments <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]208ef66b5b12b51e9> | |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24158: Add missing html filters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]776afd819be40b79b> | |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24886: Reindent reports template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4ccfbe26ab2cd3158> | |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24828: Add ability to specify cash register in SIP config <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fdd39431b45e3b398> | |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24455: Add Moment.js to About page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53925aa4b2d21f10a> | |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24455: Add moment-timezone library in staff <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6d084a0b47bff7c54> | |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24455: Add moment library in staff <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c2fbcc2d8d0a5b77c> | |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24455: Add JS functions to format date and datetime strings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3459cdc1a5b7b8637> | |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24455: Add moment-timezone library in opac <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1a5d3d79b61924e06> | |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24455: Add moment library in opac <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]43c2fcabbfc997e27> | |
| 13:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 24158: Convert actual cost in an other currency when receiving <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]181a54ee4c5d15bf0> | |
| 13:57 | ashimema | cait .. did you have any more opinion on bug 22844.. regarding comment 14 |
| 13:57 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Simplify the process of selecting database columns for system preferences |
| 13:57 | ashimema | it's sat in my queue |
| 13:57 | cait | still on the stream |
| 13:59 | liliputech_asu | fridolin: replied :) |
| 14:00 | Joubu | ashimema: bug 24455, so we have a JS lib, but we do not know if we should use it? Neither how to use it. That's it? :D |
| 14:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24455 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Pushed to master , Date formatting from JS |
| 14:01 | fridolin | i have to go, have fun, see u tomoroow |
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| 14:08 | ashimema | oooooh.. |
| 14:08 | bug 24975 | |
| 14:08 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24975 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Refactor database translations |
| 14:08 | Joubu | oleonard: bug 24976 - this is why I got confused |
| 14:08 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24976 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Guided report - "Save" button on last step is misleading |
| 14:08 | oleonard | Yeah jajm is on fire these days |
| 14:09 | Joubu I tried to get Guided Reports to go away but it turns out some people use them! | |
| 14:09 | Joubu | yep, I read the comments :) |
| 14:09 | well, that's good news, we have features that are used :) | |
| 14:10 | oleonard | The bad news is we have to feel responsible for fixing bugs |
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| 14:15 | * ashimema | is making space for some 19.05 builds |
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| 14:17 | ashimema | bugs further down the tree rely upon it |
| 14:18 | Joubu: Bug further down the tree rely upon 24455.. it's pretty self contained so i wanted to let it in and get those one's moving.. if they stall I can remove it again.. trying to be pragmatic and move things along | |
| 14:18 | as for the introduction of moment.js.. the patchset uses it.. | |
| 14:19 | to manage string parsing and formatting along with timezone handling | |
| 14:21 | cait | just finished the zoom |
| 14:22 | Joubu | ashimema: where is it used? |
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| 14:38 | caroline | jzairo: I added a link to my slides in the youtube comments |
| 14:38 | jzairo | Thank you caroline! |
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| 14:39 | davidnind | caroline++ |
| 14:39 | cait | caroline++ |
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| 14:39 | * cait | still feels watched |
| 14:39 | jzairo | Thank you cait davidnind and caroline for speaking at the vh for documentation!! |
| 14:39 | cait++ | |
| 14:39 | caroline++ | |
| 14:40 | davidnind | Apologies for being very late - slept through my alarm .... |
| 14:40 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:40 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 14:43 | davidnind | For those just using GitLab to edit the manual you can keep your fork up-to-date by mirroring (Settings > Repository > Mirroring repositories), will add details to wiki page |
| 14:44 | cait2 | :) |
| 14:45 | jzairo | thanks David I will link to that in the post too |
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| 14:48 | cait2 | we shoudl practice this more often :) |
| 14:52 | jzairo++ | |
| 14:52 | caroline | this? doing live edit that don't work? |
| 14:53 | ashimema | line 29 in the new koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/js-date-format.inc instantiates a moment and then it's used in the subsequent format call for outputting |
| 14:53 | also.. line 30 sets a tz if passed which is where the tz stuff comes in | |
| 14:53 | jzairo | I think people like seeing that, I would love to do it again |
| 14:53 | ashimema | Joubu ^ |
| 14:54 | * ashimema | is dissapointed he missed it |
| 14:54 | Joubu | but this include file is not used |
| 14:54 | ashimema | no.. because this bug just introduces it.. |
| 14:55 | the blocked bugs above it use it. | |
| 14:55 | Joubu | ok, not this patch |
| 14:56 | ashimema: if I want to try it, what should I do? | |
| 14:58 | ashimema | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]attachment=100473 |
| 14:58 | that patch uses it for example | |
| 14:58 | basically.. include the include file | |
| 14:58 | cait2 | caroline: talking while being watched...? |
| 14:59 | ashimema | then for anything that relies on api calls with dates in the response for the display you need `$date(data)` |
| 14:59 | caroline | cait2: ah yes! but don't you already do it during trainings? |
| 14:59 | ashimema | anywhere you can't use [% data | $KohaDates %] because the data if fetch asynchronously via the API |
| 14:59 | does that make more sense? | |
| 14:59 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:59 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 15:00 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #162: FIXED in 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D9/162/ |
| 15:01 | Joubu | trying now |
| 15:03 | ashimema | What I'm less happy about is there's some code duplication.. that's one of the followup bugs I'll be writing up and asking agustin to do |
| 15:03 | davidnind | caroline: you made it look so easy! (Including when things don't work the way they should) |
| 15:03 | ashimema | in short.. one set of code is basically for working with date input fields.. converting from koha format strings to Date for the input picker and back to Koha formatted strings again |
| 15:04 | caroline | thanks davidnind :) I'm used to things not working in trainings when we're working on test installations |
| 15:04 | ashimema | the other is just for the formatting side.. taking a rfc3339 string and converting it to a koha formatter string |
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| 15:10 | Joubu | ashimema: so that does not work :) |
| 15:10 | ashimema | what.. |
| 15:10 | it worked for me | |
| 15:10 | Joubu | 2020-03-25 in DB is displayed 24/03 |
| 15:11 | What I am saying for a week... | |
| 15:11 | either we rebuild everything, or we continue with the current situation | |
| 15:11 | not mixing both | |
| 15:16 | ashimema | what are your sysprefs then? |
| 15:16 | for me it worked consistently | |
| 15:16 | I'll test again now | |
| 15:17 | and.. | |
| 15:17 | how does server time compare to the config timezone | |
| 15:17 | do those differ | |
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| 15:18 | ashimema | for me I have to have the config timezone match the client timezone |
| 15:18 | everything breaks if your browser is different to the config | |
| 15:18 | hmm | |
| 15:18 | tcohen | is amoyano around? |
| 15:18 | ashimema | actually.. let me re-check that too |
| 15:19 | I need to take my girls out for their one hours fresh air shortly | |
| 15:19 | amoyano | hi |
| 15:19 | wahanui | niihau, amoyano |
| 15:20 | tcohen | amoyano, Joubu just found a problem on date representation in the holds history bug |
| 15:21 | * Joubu | query tcohen not "just", have been saying it for days already |
| 15:21 | Joubu | lol |
| 15:22 | tcohen | I just got the notification you failed the bug, I haven't been tracking any discussion about it |
| 15:22 | amoyano | hi joubu, just trying to read the history of the chat.. what is the bug you found, if you could explain it to me, please? |
| 15:22 | Joubu | ashimema: I have nothing in my timezone config |
| 15:22 | amoyano: it's on the bug report | |
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| 15:24 | Joubu | "for me I have to have the config timezone match the client timezone" => How that? |
| 15:24 | that does not make sense | |
| 15:25 | 224 <!-- The timezone setting can let you force the timezone for this | |
| 15:25 | 225 instance to be something other then the local timezone of the | |
| 15:25 | 226 server. e.g. Antarctica/South_Pole --> | |
| 15:25 | there is nothing todo with client's tz | |
| 15:25 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:25 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 15:25 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D10 build #154: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/154/ |
| 15:25 | amoyano | can you tell me how you tested? |
| 15:27 | joubu: I mean, you opened your browser console and typed something? | |
| 15:27 | Joubu | using the UI. Did you see the screenshot? |
| 15:28 | amoyano | sorry, didn't notice there was one |
| 15:29 | cait | bbl |
| 15:30 | Joubu | amoyano: my recommendation is to not deal with the timezone. You should display what is in DB. |
| 15:30 | Otherwise, like I said before, you need to rethink the whole datetime handling (everywhere). | |
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| 15:31 | * ashimema | pops out |
| 15:31 | ashimema | will continue this when I get back |
| 15:34 | * ashimema | can now see Joubu's issue when testing on bug 20936 though |
| 15:34 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20936 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Failed QA , Holds History for patrons in OPAC |
| 15:34 | amoyano | joubu: according to MySQL, the only data type that supports time zone is timestamp |
| 15:34 | ashimema | I'm still open to reverting or fixing.. |
| 15:34 | * ashimema | actually goes for this walk now.. bbiab |
| 15:34 | amoyano | reservedate is not timestamp |
| 15:35 | so you should not use that function to display that column | |
| 15:36 | to me the bug is the lack of documentation to explain when to use it | |
| 15:37 | Joubu | when to use what? |
| 15:37 | amoyano | when column in database is timestamp |
| 15:38 | it's the only one that supports, and understands time zone | |
| 15:38 | sorry when to use $datetime function | |
| 15:39 | Joubu | amoyano: the weird thing is that I see problems with date only value :) There is no time part on the expiration date |
| 15:39 | amoyano | oh.. I confused the bug |
| 15:39 | jeje | |
| 15:39 | give me a second | |
| 15:41 | yes, then we agree on something without knowing it.. I should not have used $date to display that, hehe.. I'll fix that | |
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| 15:51 | amoyano | joubu, can you please try again? |
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| 15:56 | Joubu | did you amend a patch? |
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| 16:04 | amoyano | joubu: yep |
| 16:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:15 | ashimema | erm |
| 16:15 | I dissagree about the whole datetime/date/timestamp conclusion regarding mysql | |
| 16:15 | we shouldn't be using them interchangably the way we do.. | |
| 16:16 | but I don't think we should switch all to timestamp | |
| 16:16 | in reality the 'timezone aware' stuff doesn't mean much.. the 'strings' that get stored and output don't include timezone data for the app anyway | |
| 16:17 | what timestamp means by being timezone aware is that if you change the timezone of the server then the output string will reflect the new timezone.. but it won't include a timezone in it or output UTC | |
| 16:17 | what we want is for consistently storing and retrieving a known fixed timezone.. (the one in our koha config) | |
| 16:18 | for that i'd say we should use datetime everywhere.. it support a larger range of string dates | |
| 16:18 | and does no internal processing so is very slightly more performant apparently. | |
| 16:18 | I'm not sure I understand what you mean by you shouldn't have used $date.. | |
| 16:19 | will take a look at your updated patch shortly. | |
| 16:22 | Joubu | oleonard: did you agree on dropping NoJS support at the OPAC? |
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| 16:33 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 16:33 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 16:53 | cait | back |
| 16:55 | oleonard | cait do you know when a serial claim gets a date associated with it? |
| 16:56 | Only after the notification has been sent? | |
| 16:57 | cait | i tihnk either when you generate the csv or the email |
| 16:58 | ashimema | right.. back again |
| 16:58 | agustin : did you say you're uploaded new patches that remove $date? | |
| 16:59 | ah yes.. please add those as follow-ups.. it's really hard to spot changes if they're just updates of the original patches | |
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| 17:05 | lisettelatah | I'm planning on doing a kohadevbox live(ish) install tomorrow morning, around 8:30 Pacific. I should have a link up on the trello board and wiki after I've tested my stream setup. |
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| 17:21 | cait | lisettelatah++ |
| 17:21 | kathryn | hi cait :) |
| 17:21 | ashimema | agustin around? |
| 17:22 | kathryn | I hope everyone is keeping well |
| 17:23 | cait | hi kathryn! |
| 17:24 | kathryn | it's my first day locked down here, woke up early to enjoy it I guess...how are you? |
| 17:26 | amoyano | ashimema: Here I am |
| 17:26 | Just having lunch | |
| 17:26 | ashimema | I'm commenting on the bug |
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| 17:26 | ashimema | I'll get that done and you can comment in your own time |
| 17:27 | I think i've nailed the issue | |
| 17:27 | cait | kathryn: BSZ has also closed office, we are all working from home - it's still a bit new and strange |
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| 17:27 | amoyano | I'll have to make another bug depending on bug 24455 where it makes it possible to disable timezone |
| 17:27 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24455 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Pushed to master , Date formatting from JS |
| 17:27 | amoyano | and still format date or datetime |
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| 17:31 | ashimema | see my final comment on bug 20396.. hopefully it helps clarify |
| 17:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20396 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Omnibus: Cleanup Koha and fight feature creep |
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| 17:34 | ashimema | amoyano.. I wonder if parseZone may be helpful. |
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| 18:05 | lisettelatah | cait today is day 3 of working from home and I think my cat is going to be very sad when I have to go back in at some point. |
| 18:17 | oleonard | lisettelatah: My cats probably couldn't care less but the dogs definitely are happy with this situation |
| 18:23 | cait | no pets - so it's a little lonely |
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| 18:26 | oleonard | cait: If you would like an approximation of what it's like to have a cat and a dog, do this: Bite your hand and then bring yourself a sock from somewhere in the house |
| 18:29 | cait | oleonard: lol |
| 18:31 | lisettelatah | oloenard: lol |
| 18:31 | Marie-Luce | I see more cat in my life since I'm working from home... everyone has a cat while speaking in a video conference |
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| 18:32 | Marie-Luce | :) |
| 18:32 | * cait | contemplates more video phone calls |
| 18:37 | amoyano | my cat feels "his" home is invaded.. |
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| 18:49 | amoyano | ashimema around? |
| 18:51 | ashimema | Ish |
| 18:52 | amoyano | so, I've seen some endpoints in the api, and see how date-time and timestamp are rendered |
| 18:53 | seems the api brings date-time columns with +00:00 offset | |
| 18:53 | ashimema | Check your Koha instance timezone config |
| 18:53 | I believe that if you set that it adds in an offset for the api | |
| 18:54 | It default to UTC if not set m | |
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| 18:54 | ashimema | Which is probably wrong ... It should probably default to server local time |
| 18:55 | amoyano | I mean.. should date-time columns have offset?.. when you try to save dates to date-time column if it has offset it's ignored, but if you do the same to a timestamp it will be converted to UTC |
| 18:55 | that maybe a problem | |
| 19:00 | ashimema | Sorry |
| 19:01 | Your now talking about dB storage time right.. | |
| 19:01 | I have a bug field which fixes dt_from_string to take offset into account | |
| 19:02 | So yeah, you are sort of right | |
| 19:02 | amoyano | but I shouldn't worry about it right now |
| 19:02 | ashimema | So... In theory all date string in Koha should go through dt_from_string serverside.. |
| 19:04 | It will take a date (without a timezone marker) from the database and set it's timezone to the one you have in your config.. it won't mess with the value as far as I can tell.. rather it'll 'label' the value internally as belonging to that timezone | |
| 19:05 | These when you then call to RFC string or whatever for outputting in the API it should get the offset added in | |
| 19:06 | Viva versa, when an API call included a datetime in RFC format the call to dt_from_string should use it.. then inside that same call it should convert it to the configured timezone internally (this will affect the internal time if the timezones don't match) and then upon storage as we're outputting MySQL time it drops the offset | |
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| 19:06 | ashimema | But.. outputs a string that has had the offset applied to it already. |
| 19:08 | amoyano | great! |
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| 19:24 | rangi | morning |
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| 19:39 | cait | morning rangi |
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| 20:47 | cait | tcohen: around? |
| 20:48 | ashimema | @later tell amoyano I've attached a followup to bug 20936.. could you take a look and see if it makes sense for the timezone handling stuff? |
| 20:48 | huginn | ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:48 | * ashimema | heads to bed |
| 20:48 | cait | good night |
| 20:48 | sleep well :) | |
| 20:48 | ashimema | nighty night |
| 20:48 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 20:48 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 20:50 | aleisha | hello |
| 20:51 | cait | hi aleisha :) |
| 20:51 | the collapse patron form sections feature was a big hit in today's documenation webinar | |
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| 20:52 | cait | we talked about adding 'text for release notes' and Andrew did a quick demo - it's also been recorded |
| 20:52 | aleisha | oh fantastic cait! |
| 20:52 | glad we could get that one over the line, i like how it ended up :) | |
| 20:53 | that reminds me i need to remember to put text in release notes | |
| 20:53 | cait | I need to remember devs to do it :) |
| 20:53 | just looking at another from you - bug 14715 | |
| 20:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Results per page setting for catalog search in staff client and OPAC |
| 20:54 | cait | I found a comment from severine for problems with result sets over 10 000 from elastic, was there another issue that you remember? |
| 20:55 | aleisha | sorry what do you mean by another issue? |
| 20:55 | it's been a while since i looked at that patch but i think we fixed the problem with large resultsets by taking out the 'All' option | |
| 20:55 | cait | there is a comment that it's not supposed to work with elaastic, but jonathan says it does, to i think that's the confusion holding it up right now |
| 20:57 | aleisha | oh okay. i believe i added a note to the syspref about it not working with elasticsearch, and hid the dropdowns if elasticsearch was enabled |
| 20:58 | cait | yeah... i think that was my fault |
| 20:58 | i will do some testing and see what i can find | |
| 20:59 | it didn't work for me - but maybe it owrks now, I will test | |
| 20:59 | aleisha | all good, let me know if there's anything else I need to do to get it through :) |
| 20:59 | cait | will comment on the bug either way - thx! |
| 21:00 | amoyano | ashimema: I created bug 24980 to do just that.. I'll remove that bug and test your patch |
| 21:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24980 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Date formatting from JS - use timezone only with dates with offset |
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| 21:29 | ashimema | 😀 |
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| 21:43 | cait | still unstable makes you happy? :) |
| 21:51 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 21:51 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 22:16 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 22:16 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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