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| 07:47 | * ashimema | giggles after reading last night's scrollback |
| 07:47 | ashimema | Morning all |
| 07:48 | +1 for removing guided reports.. and perhaps pushing for better support in mana reports.. i.e. all the enhancements we suggested last hackfest starting to move | |
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| 07:51 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:55 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 08:10 | magnuse | \o/ |
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| 09:32 | ashimema | anyone know of any documentation on our existing timezone handling? |
| 09:33 | as in.. what level of support we suggest we have.. can a library have branches in multiple timezones for example.. are we consistently supporting the library being in one timezone and their server being in another | |
| 09:33 | the code around it is cryptic | |
| 09:37 | Joubu | ashimema: there is the 'timezone' config |
| 09:37 | ashimema | indeed.. |
| 09:37 | but what is it's intention ;) | |
| 09:37 | eythian | cait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]&feature=youtu.be |
| 09:37 | Joubu | So theorically you can have several instances on the same server |
| 09:37 | ashimema | I'm not seeing any documentation about it. |
| 09:37 | Joubu | with different tz |
| 09:38 | ashimema | we have allot of places where you can type in datetime when only the date resolution is really used.. |
| 09:41 | Joubu | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]one_Configuration |
| 09:41 | https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20123 | |
| 09:41 | huginn | Bug 20123: new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, CLOSED FIXED, Allow multiple instances of Koha to have different timezones on the same server |
| 09:41 | Joubu | that's all we have |
| 09:41 | ashimema | aha.. thanks |
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| 10:16 | ashimema | offline_circ/service.pl seems to be the only place where timezone is sent to dt_from_string |
| 10:17 | feels like we should drop that use and kill off the param to me | |
| 10:19 | interestingly it does the fix I was aiming to put into DateUtils.. | |
| 10:20 | converting from 'client' time (which is always UTC in KOCT) into the configured instance time | |
| 10:32 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 10:32 | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1212: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1212/ | |
| 10:34 | cait | ashimema: sorry, not sure i can contribute anything to that line of thought |
| 10:37 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #756: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/756/ |
| 10:45 | ashimema | now I can't seem to get an hourly loan to work |
| 10:45 | grr | |
| 10:47 | cait | breath |
| 10:47 | what''s the issue? | |
| 10:48 | ashimema | I wasn't specific enough in my circ rule |
| 10:48 | think I've got it now.. just testing | |
| 10:49 | aha.. there we go :) | |
| 10:49 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 10:49 | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #677: FIXED in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/677/ | |
| 10:50 | ashimema | for extenting due dates, bug 24608.. |
| 10:50 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24608 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Allow modification of checkout due date |
| 10:51 | ashimema | should you be able to specify a time due for a daily loan.. |
| 10:51 | that makes no sense to me | |
| 10:51 | cait | i think you should |
| 10:51 | as you can do that when you use specify due date | |
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| 10:57 | ashimema | but when you specify a due date at checkout you don't yet know the circ rule that's going to apply so you don't know if it's an hourly loan or a daily loan yet.. |
| 10:57 | cait | ? |
| 10:58 | ashimema | so you can't limit the due date input picker at checkout.. but you can at renewal and update because you already know the loan time.. hourly or daily |
| 10:58 | cait | i might be misunderstnading the bug you work on... but specify due date allows you to set a date before checkout and this allows you to modify after |
| 10:58 | in both cases we don't check circ rules, don't we? | |
| 10:58 | why would you want to limit? | |
| 10:58 | ashimema | do we just pass in whatevr time they put in then... |
| 10:58 | wow | |
| 10:59 | cait | well it has to be a valid date/time |
| 10:59 | and it can be in the past, which is intentional and gerat for testing | |
| 10:59 | ashimema | mmm |
| 10:59 | except for a 'daily' loan anything except 23:59 should be invalid ;) | |
| 11:00 | interesting... | |
| 11:00 | this bug doesn't allow you to set a date before the original due date.. and I think that's right for this bug | |
| 11:00 | but that's another thing entirely | |
| 11:01 | what I'm trying to fix is Joubu's comment regarding having his timezone differnt in the client compared to the server.. | |
| 11:01 | but actually.. what I've found is that for API use we always destroy timezone data which is weird | |
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| 11:06 | cait | timezones? |
| 11:06 | oh wahanui, you disappoint | |
| 11:06 | ... because you are nothere | |
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| 12:30 | tcohen | hola |
| 12:33 | cait | hola |
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| 12:47 | magnuse | wizzyrea! |
| 12:47 | oleonard | Hello |
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| 13:00 | oleonard | If I were to change the way report groups and subgroups were selected, what would be a reasonable amount of subgroups to expect to accommodate? Anyone know of any extreme examples? |
| 13:01 | cait | not for us |
| 13:01 | we only got a handful, maybe you need someone consortia | |
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| 13:54 | magnuse | oleonard: i have never seen anyone use subgroups |
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| 13:58 | oleonard | Ha. Maybe I can make them more usable |
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| 14:00 | oleonard | Thinking about (roughly) something like this: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15844535677735 |
| 14:03 | magnuse | yeah, that looks good! |
| 14:04 | ashimema: after doing "git pull" for the first time in a while i got complaints about a missing libemail-messageid-perl and had to install it myself. is that to be expected? | |
| 14:06 | ashimema | what apt repo are you tracking? |
| 14:06 | unstable or nightly? | |
| 14:06 | the nightlies are broken.. mirko's server is out of space so they've not been building properly in many months | |
| 14:06 | and how do you manage your dependancies when you do a git pull | |
| 14:06 | do you apt install koha-perldeps? | |
| 14:07 | or koha-common or anything.. | |
| 14:07 | only using those to update packages will pull all the listed dependancies | |
| 14:07 | cait | oleonard: i like it :) |
| 14:07 | maybe ... if more than x | |
| 14:07 | ? | |
| 14:07 | but could be a lot more | |
| 14:08 | ashimema | nice |
| 14:12 | cait | oleonard: it would be nice to test with a bit longer 'group names' |
| 14:12 | the english ones tend to be all very short, but our gemran ones can get longer | |
| 14:12 | Serials = Zeitschriftenverwaltung (worst case) | |
| 14:18 | oleonard | https://www.thoughtco.com/long[…]the-world-4061494 |
| 14:22 | magnuse | Krankenhaus! |
| 14:23 | ashimema: sorry, guess i didn't do apt-get upgrade. nm | |
| 14:29 | ashimema | no worries |
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| 15:10 | ashimema | is anyone qaing bug 24846 |
| 15:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24846 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a tool to bulk edit due dates |
| 15:13 | andrew__ | I can't QA it, @ashimema, but I saw it and it's great! nice thinking, very timely |
| 15:16 | ashimema | indeed.. |
| 15:16 | I'll QA it quickly as I'd love to see it in the next release | |
| 15:17 | but only if no-one else can take a look.. I like to keep the qa step in there as much as I can.. | |
| 15:17 | else we're removing checks.. and I know I'm not perfect.. the more eyes on these things the better | |
| 15:18 | * ashimema | runs to get kids from school |
| 15:18 | ashimema | oops |
| 15:19 | Joubu | I'd like someone that had to deal with that in a real-life situation |
| 15:19 | to make sure it deals with the different cases | |
| 15:26 | caroline | for real life situation, maybe ask vfernandes. they asked for that last week because all libraries in portugal are closed for two weeks |
| 15:35 | cait | we update issues.date_due and items.on_loan |
| 15:36 | 2 questions we had were about renewal notices (some want to send, others don't) and incrementing the renewal counter (we don't, but didn't get asked) | |
| 15:37 | also people only want to get updates on due dates between x and y (nto the real old ones with fines and not the super future ones ) | |
| 15:37 | i think when renewing items with fines, you need to do more things, we have avoided that (only updating iissues due today or in the future) | |
| 15:38 | but it hink your feature probably uses internal functions? | |
| 15:38 | ashimema: / Joubu - ^ hope that's helpful | |
| 15:41 | all librareis closing now here i think | |
| 15:42 | Joubu | cait: the feature only update the due date in the DB, without dealing with fines or anything else |
| 15:43 | cait | i am not sure of the consequences if you have an verdue item with an fu fine |
| 15:43 | then change the due date ... it gets overdue again | |
| 15:43 | but it might keep updating the fu fine instead of the f fine? | |
| 15:43 | hm | |
| 15:43 | that was not quite right | |
| 15:43 | i mean we are missing what usually happens on rnew - fu > f (or wahtever they are called now in master) | |
| 15:44 | to avoid issues we have asked the libraries to update already overdue manually | |
| 15:44 | got to go now - will be back from home tomorrow | |
| 15:45 | or later :) | |
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| 15:46 | oleonard | hash tag nofines |
| 15:49 | caroline | +1 ^ |
| 15:50 | ashimema | I'll take a look.. we have also been doing this already in real life and that's where our original description of the bug came from ;) |
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| 16:18 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:50 | ashimema | bug 24722 |
| 16:50 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24722 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , reserves.priority must be NOT NULL |
| 16:50 | ashimema | do we not need to catch and update existing NULLs before it'll allow us to conver to NOT NULL |
| 16:50 | Joubu ^ | |
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| 18:28 | Joubu | ashimema: we could, but that should not exist |
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| 18:31 | ashimema | shouldn't.. but iy bet it does ;) |
| 18:31 | * shouldn't.. but it bet it does ;) | |
| 18:32 | I'm sure there was a SIP bug recently that put reserves in with NULLs | |
| 18:32 | maybe I'm mis-remembering | |
| 18:32 | cait | hm no i seem to remember that too |
| 18:34 | lisettelatah | Was that bug 24680 |
| 18:34 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24680 minor, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Pushed to master , Hold modification endpoints don't always work properly |
| 18:35 | ashimema | bug 24705 perhaps |
| 18:35 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24705 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Holds placed via SIP will be given first priority |
| 18:36 | ashimema | Prior to that patch SIP called AddReserve without a priority at all |
| 18:38 | yup.. looking at AddReserve it looks like we could have ended up with NULLs in there before now. | |
| 18:38 | so we should deal with them | |
| 18:38 | fancy doing a followup or I can have a go later this evening once I've walked the dog and got the girls to bed | |
| 18:39 | thanks team | |
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| 19:59 | corilynn | oleonard, are you here? |
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| 20:01 | corilynn | or, anyone that can help me with kohadevbox ? |
| 20:02 | I'm getting a failure message on this step: kohadevbox : Install Koha | Add official Koha repository (repo) | |
| 20:12 | cait | hm it looks like the https on git.koha-community.org might not be ok right now |
| 20:12 | maybe that could cause it? | |
| 20:12 | hm ok, that might be a wrong lead | |
| 20:12 | my link was odd | |
| 20:12 | doe sit just hang or is there some error? | |
| 20:13 | oleonard | corilynn, I'm here now |
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| 20:13 | * cait | will leave it to oleonard |
| 20:13 | * oleonard | has had good luck with koha-testing-docker lately after kohadevbox started failing again |
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| 20:39 | mja | Hey everyone, I got this report from the SQL reports library: it's supposed to find records with a specific MARC field. Is there a way to change it so it grabs bib records WITHOUT a specific MARC field? Even better, without several given MARC fields? |
| 20:39 | SELECT biblionumber, CONCAT('<a href=\"/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=', biblionumber, '\">', biblionumber, '</a>' ) AS link FROM biblio_metadata WHERE ExtractValue(metadata,'//datafield/@tag') REGEXP <<MARC field>> | |
| 20:44 | cait | mja: i usually use something like ="" |
| 20:44 | ExtractValue(metadata,'//datafield/@tag' = "" | |
| 20:45 | that is 'not exists' as it will come back with an empty string | |
| 20:45 | ExtractValue(metadata,'//datafield/@tag' is not quite right, you need to fix that | |
| 20:45 | examples are in the library | |
| 20:45 | mja | Thanks. I did pull this directly from the library, though.. maybe it's an older one? |
| 20:46 | cait | maybe it's meant as an example |
| 20:46 | so you are supposed to change the extractvalue bit | |
| 20:48 | corilynn | sorry, oleonard, boss lady called |
| 20:48 | is there anyway to get kohadevbox working? something about ansible? | |
| 20:48 | oleonard | Sounds like a hilarious Dilbert scenario if I ever heard one |
| 20:49 | corilynn | I could go on... |
| 20:49 | oleonard | corilynn: Paste the output that shows the failure? http://paste.koha-community.org/ |
| 20:49 | corilynn | I'm getting an error for vagrant up at kohadevbox : Install Koha | Add official |
| 20:49 | yes | |
| 20:51 | did that work? | |
| 20:51 | http://paste.koha-community.org/19076 | |
| 20:53 | oleonard | corilynn are you on Windows? |
| 20:53 | corilynn | no, ubuntu |
| 20:53 | with no UI (don't ask, it's a long story) | |
| 20:54 | oleonard | Sorry corilynn I've dealt with a number of kohadevbox issues before but this one doesn't look familiar |
| 20:55 | corilynn | where would "apt cache update" be? |
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| 22:15 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #269: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/269/ |
| 22:22 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 22:22 | Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #268: FIXED in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D8/268/ | |
| 22:25 | Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #258: STILL UNSTABLE in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.11_U18/258/ | |
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