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| 09:51 | cait | hello #koha |
| 09:57 | magnuse | kia ora cait |
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| 10:10 | kohaputti | ere, are there any plans for completing the elasticsearch index mappings and weights? |
| 10:12 | I'm adding some new fields there to cover our library needs but would be better to coordinate this together (so that I don't name the fields in some weird way and have to redo the work) | |
| 10:13 | cait | having a good standard config to ship with... would be nice :) |
| 10:14 | magnuse | +1 |
| 10:15 | kohaputti | there is one bug report for adding weights for the unimarc fields but no bug for adding new search fields. |
| 10:15 | ere | kohaputti: Not that I know of. The effort so far really has been to provide feature-parity with Zebra. Weights are particularly difficult. Getting relevance right for a large number of different databases is not an easy task, but we could certainly use a basic setup one could use and be happy or start tweaking from. |
| 10:16 | In any case getting weighing right is a time-consuming process... | |
| 10:17 | cait | true, but i htink something that works 'reasonably well' for up to 50.000 record |
| 10:17 | kohaputti | we have the weights defined for zebra so that could give us some hints |
| 10:17 | cait | s |
| 10:17 | might be something we coudl aim for | |
| 10:17 | kohaputti | I'm going to create a bug report for adding new fields for the mappings.yaml |
| 10:25 | ere | agreed |
| 10:33 | kohaputti | the bug is bug 24678 |
| 10:33 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add missing search fields to Elasticsearch mappings |
| 10:34 | kohaputti | ere, what sort of strategy we should use here? It is quite a big project. We could maybe just go through the zebra index mapping file and add missing fields from there? |
| 10:35 | ere | kohaputti: Are we still missing fields from Zebra? I thought we had them all... |
| 10:35 | But sure, that should be the first priority. | |
| 10:36 | kohaputti | well, check for example that 264, we have it in ES but it is not indexed by subfields, only the whole thing. |
| 10:36 | so we cannot do exact searches on subfields because of that | |
| 10:36 | ere | oh, well, that obviously needs to be fixed.. |
| 10:38 | cait | ew yep |
| 10:38 | 260/264 is such a nightmare :( | |
| 10:38 | kohaputti | ere, I notice the 264 field I just put there as an example was added quite recently (June, 2019) so maybe the other fields are there? |
| 10:38 | cait | i am still cleaning up things because union catalog data switched |
| 10:39 | ere | kohaputti: I thought they were, but who knows.. |
| 10:40 | kohaputti | ok, I will try to find if there are other subfields missing. |
| 10:41 | cait | Joubu++ thx |
| 10:43 | kohaputti | 022y is missing at least so there are other differences from zebra too |
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| 11:24 | Joubu | @later tell rangi Hi Chris, 2 things: 1. there is a PR for the dashboard, then 2. there is a need to have a permanent link to the latest version of the manual (https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]manual/issues/19). I think that would be great to have that, what do you think? Are you the one that can create such symlink? |
| 11:24 | huginn | Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:37 | kubiz | hi |
| 11:37 | wahanui | hello, kubiz |
| 11:37 | kubiz | anybody home |
| 11:38 | i have question | |
| 11:42 | i have a biblio record that no item but the status show 1 available item | |
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| 12:10 | cait | Joubu++ :) |
| 12:10 | 022$y is also a more recent one - maybe tracking the last changes to zebra files will uncover the missing ones easier | |
| 12:15 | kubiz | Found the culprit that causes the problem for the status for no item available. There is a call number in the biblio in the item but actually there are no item, no barcode and so on. Delete it and the available status is gone |
| 12:16 | but i have another problem. different situation but still regarding the status available. we have 1 item been checkout but the status is still available | |
| 12:17 | cait | is it bothavailable on the detail page and results or only on one of them? |
| 12:20 | kubiz | only 1 item in the biblio. It bring to the details page. So it is in the detail page |
| 12:21 | ah i can search using the name of the author in search page ya both display and result show the available status | |
| 12:22 | both display in detail and result page | |
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| 12:29 | paul | hello |
| 12:30 | Guest16730 | seems like I have found a bug in Koha search |
| 12:40 | kubiz | you need to wait a long time before your question be answered guest16730 |
| 12:40 | Guest16730 | i have set up a koha instance and filled it with books with titles in Russian. but when I try to search in Russian, it displays all results |
| 12:40 | all entries | |
| 12:41 | this is reproducible even on a demo site | |
| 12:42 | this is a search in Russian https://demo.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-[…]_by=relevance_dsc | |
| 12:43 | that particular library doesn't have any books in Russian, however it does return 26 completely irrelevant results | |
| 12:45 | probably because of Japanese somewhere in the book title | |
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| 13:13 | paul2020 | I also tried to connect to zebra as explained here |
| 13:13 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]bleshooting_Zebra | |
| 13:13 | and told it to explain why does it return those irrelevant results. | |
| 13:13 | it shows what words it considered relevant, but they are completely irrelevant to the search word in Russian | |
| 13:14 | so the problem is in zebra, not in koha | |
| 13:18 | cait | are you searching with cyrillic? |
| 13:19 | paul2020: | |
| 13:19 | paul2020 | yes! |
| 13:19 | cait | have you configured ICU? |
| 13:19 | paul2020 | no |
| 13:19 | cait | there you go :) |
| 13:19 | for search with non-latin scripts to work correctly, you want ICU | |
| 13:19 | sec | |
| 13:19 | ICU? | |
| 13:19 | wahanui | ICU is on |
| 13:19 | cait | no wahanui... i wanted the documentation |
| 13:19 | (wahnui is a bot) | |
| 13:20 | this shoudl help you: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ins_configuration | |
| 13:20 | wahanui forget ICU | |
| 13:20 | wahanui | cait: I forgot icu |
| 13:20 | cait | ICU is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ins_configuration |
| 13:20 | ICU? | |
| 13:20 | wahanui | ICU is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ins_configuration |
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| 13:31 | cait | hi khall :) |
| 13:31 | khall | hi cait! |
| 13:31 | cait | I have to admit... I want something |
| 13:31 | khall: would you mind taking a look at bug 15377? | |
| 13:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, rogan.hamby, Signed Off , Remove 'checked out' items from course reserves |
| 13:31 | khall | can do! |
| 13:36 | cait: it occurs to me that it would be really nice if we had lists of 'stakeholders' for particular features ( course reserves, branch transfer limits, rotating collections, etc ) so we could ping a set of libraries that are heavy users of a particular feature to know if a given change would adversely affect their workflow. | |
| 13:36 | cait | true |
| 13:36 | i do that to some extend where i know | |
| 13:36 | khall | I'll try to dig some up course reserves users to get an opinion on this |
| 13:36 | cait | but it's not written down somewhere |
| 13:36 | thanks! | |
| 13:38 | paul2020 | thanks, cait! installing ICU helps! |
| 13:39 | cait | np, we have a lot of librareis using icu |
| 13:42 | paul2020 | installing ICU seems to be an important step for those who install koha for use with non-latin alphabets. but there is no mention of that in the installation documentation |
| 13:43 | can anyone add a note and a link to ICU installation page here | |
| 13:43 | https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian | |
| 13:44 | there is a Translations sub-section, it should include a link to ICU installation page | |
| 13:44 | saying this is a requirement if you want to search in other alphabets! | |
| 13:46 | I would also like to share my experience with installing koha on ubuntu server 18.04. There is a problem with installing it on Mysql that comes from ubuntu repositories. | |
| 13:47 | some database tables are not created, this results in errors | |
| 13:47 | I install from packages | |
| 13:48 | there are no problems with MariaDB. this should also be mentioned in the docimentation | |
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| 13:49 | paul2020 | so, if you want to install from packaged on ubuntu server 18.04 use MariaDB, NOT mysql! |
| 13:57 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 7611: (follow-up) Adjust tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64248451078fffedc> |
| 13:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 24002: (follow-up) Incorrect DATE value: '00-00-0000' in C4/Serials.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8f647e1379907a03b> | |
| 13:59 | Joubu | paul2020: which error do you get with MySQL? |
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| 14:00 | paul2020 | this was several months ago. I cannot remember exactly what errors there were, it showed errors both at the installation stage and when the site was started |
| 14:00 | Joubu | it should be fixed now |
| 14:01 | paul2020 | seems like it couldn't execute sql scripts or some statements in them |
| 14:01 | I had an installation on ubuntu server 16.04 and this was on ubuntu server 18.04 | |
| 14:01 | Joubu | yes, because of MySQL 8, we fixed lot of bugs related to this version in the last months |
| 14:02 | paul2020 | OK, I did this installation several months ago, maybe in summer |
| 14:05 | cait | paul2020: if you request a wiki account, you could add the bit about icu yourself if youwant? |
| 14:05 | i can moderate the request | |
| 14:07 | paul2020 | cait, If you already have access to wiki, can you just add one line to https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]bian#Translations that says that those who use another languages should also install ICU as per this page https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ins_configuration . That would be less effort for all. |
| 14:09 | Joubu | ashimema[m]: I moved the patch from 24002 to its own bug report, as it was pushed to stable already :-/ |
| 14:09 | I should have obsoleted it | |
| 14:10 | paul2020 | this page https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ins_configuration also says sudo koha-restart-zebra {yourinstance} - this command seems to work, but says "Deprecated script used (koha-restart-zebra)". That should be "sudo koha-zebra --restart {yourinstance}" |
| 14:11 | Joubu | paul2020: certainly better if you edit by yourself then :) |
| 14:12 | ashimema[m] | oops |
| 14:12 | I'm on kids dity today.. hense not being here much | |
| 14:23 | ere | Is there still something being done with circulation rules? Latest master, edit a rule and set "Holds allowed (total)" to empty, save it, edit again and save. Results in "Unlimited" being stored in database and subsequently "Argument "Unlimited" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=) at /home/ere/kohaclone/C4/Reserves.pm line 460" |
| 14:25 | Joubu | ere: bug 24669 |
| 14:25 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24669 major, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Signed Off , Editing circulation rule breaks holds when total holds unlimited |
| 14:25 | ere | Joubu: thanks! |
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| 14:32 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 14:32 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 14:50 | kidclamp | . |
| 14:51 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 14:51 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 15:17 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:17 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 15:51 | cait | Joubu++ again heh (QA of my patches) |
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| 16:53 | did | hi, |
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| 20:14 | rangi | morning |
| 20:26 | @later tell joubu yes I can do the symlink, if you tell me what you want the path to be | |
| 20:26 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:28 | ashimema[m] | hi rangi |
| 20:29 | rangi | hi ashimema[m] |
| 20:31 | ashimema[m] | is that the symlink for the manual you were talking about there rangi? |
| 20:31 | * ashimema[m] | ears pricked up |
| 20:31 | rangi | yep |
| 20:31 | ashimema[m] | aha.. coolios |
| 20:31 | * ashimema[m] | hasn't read todays irc logs yet.. been on kids duty today.. |
| 20:32 | ashimema[m] | lots of fun science experiments instead of coding.. has been a nice break |
| 20:40 | rangi | :)\ |
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| 21:05 | lisettelatah | Question, I tested bug 15522 today. It all worked swimmingly except for an API test. Should I fail QA for that? |
| 21:05 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
| 21:06 | cait | lisettelatah: maybe leave anote |
| 21:06 | as a first step | |
| 21:06 | also curious what you think about the new interface :) | |
| 21:06 | lisettelatah | cait, I did leave a note, including the messages about the failure. |
| 21:07 | I liked it, though I only have a few circ rules set up. I might put in our circ and fine rules and reapply the patches and see how it looks with Valnet's circ and fine rules (or a subset of them) | |
| 21:07 | cait | that would be a great test I tihnk |
| 21:07 | I don't really have thedata to do that I think | |
| 21:08 | lisettelatah: would you do mea little favor? looking for opinions on bug 15352 | |
| 21:08 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to master , Use URLLinkText instead of URL for item links |
| 21:08 | cait | should the linktext for item urls be a separatepref to record linktext or not? |
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| 21:10 | cait | hi Margaret! |
| 21:10 | Margaret | Hi Cait! |
| 21:10 | cait | can you remind me of your ravelry nick? |
| 21:10 | waned to ask forever | |
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| 21:12 | Margaret | Sure! https://www.ravelry.com/people/margaretserpent |
| 21:12 | And I need to add you as a friend. | |
| 21:13 | cait | just added you |
| 21:13 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 21:13 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 21:13 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #618: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/618/ |
| 21:13 | cait | :) |
| 21:14 | Margaret | Sweet! Friends added - Check |
| 21:14 | cait | :) |
| 21:14 | now you just need to start uploading photos :) | |
| 21:14 | because i am curious! | |
| 21:15 | Margaret | He, yeah, I need to take those photos. |
| 21:15 | But you've catalyzed an idea for me... There's a boutique yarn shop in town that's asked me to do crochet courses for them. | |
| 21:16 | they have spinning, loom, knitting classes, heck they have a 'socks' study hall. | |
| 21:16 | cait | sounds cool |
| 21:16 | my next thing is to figure out how ot add cat ears to a hat i knitted | |
| 21:17 | Margaret | But a "Ravelry" class is something I haven't seen |
| 21:20 | lisettelatah | cait if you find a pattern you like for ears, you should be able to make them and use a mattress stitch to attach them on top. |
| 21:20 | cait | lisettelatah: it's harde than you would think, i thave one that might work, but still kind of scared :) |
| 21:21 | I don't reocmment loking for 'cat' on ravelry | |
| 21:21 | recommend even | |
| 21:21 | lisettelatah: are you on there as well? | |
| 21:21 | lisettelatah | Yep, though I haven't done anything in a while. |
| 21:22 | https://www.ravelry.com/people/lizziemeg | |
| 21:22 | cait | nice photo :) |
| 21:22 | lisettelatah | Thanks :) |
| 21:24 | cait | befriended - I think you should see my nick then |
| 21:25 | lisettelatah | nice! |
| 21:25 | Margaret | I've done crochet cat ears a few times and its quite easy. |
| 21:26 | You could look up some simple amigurumi then sew them on. | |
| 21:26 | https://www.allaboutami.com/am[…]rumiforbeginners/ | |
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| 21:27 | cait | oh cute bunnies |
| 21:29 | Margaret | Hi paul_p! |
| 21:29 | cait | he might be confused if we turned #koha into a knitting chat |
| 21:30 | Margaret | They both start with a "k" so it's fine. |
| 21:31 | cait | I start with a k too! |
| 21:32 | Margaret | That's how you know you are in the right place! |
| 21:33 | But you are quite right about those pictures. Sigh. | |
| 21:41 | * cait | sends cookies |
| 21:45 | Margaret | Speaking of cookies ... I sense another ample opportunity for a channel tangent! |
| 21:51 | cait | heh |
| 21:57 | lisettelatah | cait, I've started building more complicated circ rules into my test server to test with 15522 and I'll try and test it tomorrow after the US Education meeting. |
| 21:58 | cait | great, thx lisettelatah! |
| 21:58 | lisettelatah++ | |
| 21:58 | lisettelatah | Have a good day everyone! |
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| 22:51 | wizzycray | ...how is it possible that it is an impossibility to delete a patron list |
| 22:57 | cait | wizzycray: i can delete them from the summary page |
| 22:57 | or do you mean a patron's list? | |
| 22:57 | wizzycray | why can you not do it from the list of the lists though >:( |
| 22:57 | a patron's list | |
| 22:57 | no no a list of patrons | |
| 22:57 | cait | that was easy to misundertand |
| 22:57 | wizzycray | yes it was :) |
| 22:58 | for both of us | |
| 22:58 | cait | hm can do that too |
| 22:58 | in the opac? | |
| 22:58 | in staff an dopac | |
| 22:58 | wizzycray | /cgi-bin/koha/patron_lists/lists.pl these ones |
| 22:58 | you can't delete a list from here | |
| 22:59 | you have to load it | |
| 22:59 | cait | so patron lists |
| 22:59 | wizzycray | in this case, someone accidentionpurpose put 3849 patrons in a list |
| 22:59 | cait | now you really ocnsued me |
| 22:59 | do you see it? because it's hared? | |
| 22:59 | i think only the creator might be able to delete | |
| 23:00 | shared... | |
| 23:00 | wizzycray | it's not a list of books |
| 23:00 | it's a list of patrons | |
| 23:00 | cait | i know |
| 23:00 | they got a shard checkboxn now | |
| 23:00 | wizzycray | ok :D |
| 23:00 | cait | if not checked you only see your own |
| 23:00 | shard... ignore the typos | |
| 23:00 | wizzycray | hehe I speak typ |
| 23:00 | typo even < see | |
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| 23:02 | wizzycray | right so I should set the shared bit in the db |
| 23:02 | and THEN delete it | |
| 23:04 | cait | i think if you can see it in the summary i tmust already be shared |
| 23:04 | you probably need to take ownership | |
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| 23:35 | wizzycray | it wasn't shared, setting it so didn't make it deletable |
| 23:35 | I gave up and deleted it from the db | |
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