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| 00:06 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #46: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_D9/46/ |
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| 00:15 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 00:15 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 00:15 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #48: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_D8/48/ |
| 00:30 | Project Koha_19.11_U18 build #44: SUCCESS in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.11_U18/44/ | |
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| 07:23 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 07:30 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:30 | wahanui | niihau, reiveune |
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| 07:57 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 09:10 | ashimema[m] | morning #koha |
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| 09:18 | magnuse | kia ora ashimema[m] |
| 09:22 | ere | Uh oh... While fixing REST API tests for bug 22522 (broken tests not actually testing what they're supposed) I found a little gem: The acquisitions/orders query uses budget_id parameter, but the returned orders use fund_id. Is this something that could still be fixed or are the params frozen? |
| 09:22 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22522 is not accessible. |
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| 09:38 | cait | we shoudl fix it |
| 09:39 | i am not sure if there is not even a patch yet | |
| 09:39 | we had discussed the mappings for acq recently | |
| 09:39 | tcohen: around? | |
| 09:46 | ere | cait: ok, good |
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| 10:02 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 13193: (follow-up) Update debian/control file <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6e8b8a5a59e8a172a> |
| 10:02 | News from kohagit: Bug 13193: Make Memcached usage fork safe <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6ec3bc6333a938e50> | |
| 10:02 | paxed | anyone into plugin stuff? comments on bug 24589 ? |
| 10:02 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24589 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Add plugin hook addbiblio_check_record |
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| 10:07 | magnuse | paxed: sounds like a good idea! |
| 10:09 | will the plugins be able to take the record, change it some way and return it? so it can do changes to the record without reporting anything back to the user? | |
| 10:09 | paxed | magnuse: the example plugin does exactly that |
| 10:09 | magnuse | will the plugins be able to take the record, change it some way and return it? so it can do changes to the record an save it without reporting anything back to the user? |
| 10:09 | cool! | |
| 10:10 | paxed | magnuse: we have a "nagging" code that performs format validation, and i want to make it into a plugin |
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| 10:14 | magnuse | sounds good |
| 10:18 | * ashimema[m] | predicts the next Jenkins run will explode |
| 10:18 | crosses fingers he's wrong | |
| 10:20 | ashimema[m] | ere, cait.. now we have some clearer guidlines regarding param/field names I think we should probably go back and make all the existing endpoints consistent with them.. |
| 10:20 | might be time for a version bump of the api | |
| 10:21 | I think so long as such changes are well documented and not backported we're fine to fix things | |
| 10:21 | cait | agreed, - but this one is an obvious error and not in the voted api i think |
| 10:22 | ashimema[m] | we should certianly fix it |
| 10:22 | hmm | |
| 10:22 | Jenkins nodes are all down again :( | |
| 10:25 | cait | oh :( |
| 10:50 | maybe tired from hte week... i can relate :) | |
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| 11:01 | kohaputti | mtj, good job with the packaging!! :) |
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| 11:45 | tcohen | morning |
| 11:45 | hi paxed, interesting | |
| 11:47 | we have 'after_biblio_action' | |
| 11:47 | we could have | |
| 11:47 | 'before_biblio_action' | |
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| 11:48 | tcohen | (more generic than 'check') |
| 11:48 | paxed | tcohen: well, the name doesn't really matter to me, as long as it's able to return text to the user and prevent saving. |
| 11:49 | tcohen: if the patch looks otherwise ok, i can just change the hook name (and redo the example plugin) | |
| 11:49 | * ashimema[m] | thought we had such an action already... |
| 11:51 | paxed | tcohen: although that name might be a bit too generic? |
| 11:52 | "what biblio action?" :) | |
| 11:52 | ashimema[m] | sounds like you want an 'around' hook? |
| 11:52 | tcohen | well, if it is going to change the data, I would add a pre_biblio_save_hook |
| 11:52 | ashimema[m] | rather than a simple 'before' |
| 11:52 | tcohen | hmç |
| 11:55 | I think we should (at least) have 'before' and 'after' hooks | |
| 11:57 | for everything | |
| 11:57 | haha | |
| 11:57 | ashimema[m] what would be the semantics of an around hook? | |
| 11:59 | ere good catch! | |
| 12:00 | ashimema[m] | so before and after at object level in my experience always run the function you're hooking.. around literally wraps the function so you have to allow the original code to run, or not. |
| 12:00 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #113: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/113/ |
| 12:00 | ashimema[m] | https://metacpan.org/pod/Mojolicious#HOOKS |
| 12:00 | ere | tcohen: Thanks, but I really just fixed a test that surfaced it.. |
| 12:01 | tcohen | that's even better, ere. I love it when tests highlight issues :-D |
| 12:01 | ashimema[m] | so 'before' tends to let you see and play with the input.. but not prevent execution of the next step.. |
| 12:01 | after tends to let you see and play with the output.. but not prevent execution of any further steps.. | |
| 12:01 | ere | tcohen: Yeah. And they would have caught the issues early on had they actually worked. :D |
| 12:02 | ashimema[m] | around lets to grab the data before it hits 'next' step and act on it but also optionally call the next step or pass back a failure or whatever.. |
| 12:02 | tcohen | it is difficult when the libraries we use are outdated |
| 12:02 | ashimema[m] | that's my understanding anyway |
| 12:02 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #669: UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/669/ |
| 12:02 | ashimema[m] | brb |
| 12:02 | tcohen | ashimema[m] yeah, I was just reading how it works on Ruuby |
| 12:02 | he | |
| 12:07 | ashimema[m] | :) |
| 12:07 | magnuse | bag around? |
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| 12:12 | tcohen | magnuse too early |
| 12:13 | 4:12 am | |
| 12:13 | ashimema[m] | any qa people fancy making me happy and taking a look at bug 24482 (and possibly bug 23355) |
| 12:13 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24482 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Purchase Items broken by costs containing a comma |
| 12:13 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23355 new feature, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add 'cashup' process to the accounts system | |
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| 12:14 | magnuse | tcohen: oops |
| 12:15 | ashimema[m] | 101 majors in the queue.. |
| 12:15 | * ashimema[m] | quickly looks through to see if there's one or two he can move |
| 12:15 | tcohen | are we calling everything 'major'? |
| 12:15 | he | |
| 12:16 | ashimema[m] | nah.. we just exposed all of them on the dashboard instead of only the most recent. |
| 12:16 | tcohen | oh |
| 12:16 | ashimema[m] | I've been slowly auditing them.. |
| 12:17 | though it's funny.. the moment you de-escalate one that's been sitting there for 5 years someone nearly always pops up and says you're wrong and re-escalates it.. | |
| 12:17 | but they nearly never actually work on fixing it. | |
| 12:18 | tcohen | hahaha |
| 12:18 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #597: STILL UNSTABLE in 59 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/597/ |
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| 12:21 | ashimema[m] | 100! |
| 12:21 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:27 | cait | ashimema[m]: i reescalatd the reelvance thing... but I really not dare to work on that :( |
| 12:27 | we could just remove the autotruncate feature instead? :P | |
| 12:27 | or slap a big warning on it.... | |
| 12:28 | ashimema[m] | I tried and it got shot down ;) |
| 12:28 | cait | removing? |
| 12:28 | i might just really put a warning on the pref text... if this goes on | |
| 12:29 | it's so hard to fiugre out - and it really improves search SO much | |
| 12:29 | ashimema[m] | rebasing the patch and suggesting that ixing relevance was more important than not breaking the other case... though I now can't remember what the breakage was. |
| 12:29 | cait | if you turn it off |
| 12:29 | ashimema[m] | indeed |
| 12:29 | cait | i am not sure there was even a proven breakage case |
| 12:29 | ashimema[m] | Search.pm is such a royal mess |
| 12:29 | cait | just a 'it could break something' |
| 12:29 | ashimema[m] | there is.. but only with some very specific zebra versions I believe |
| 12:41 | tcohen | it broke searching dates if Zebra version wasn't 2.0.62 |
| 12:42 | searching date ranges | |
| 12:42 | we should just pull 2.0.62 into our repo... | |
| 12:42 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #137: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/137/ |
| 12:43 | ashimema[m] | agreed |
| 12:43 | it's kinda crazy that buster still ships such an old version | |
| 12:44 | to be honest.. I've been in the habbit of just adding the zebra repos and using their version for years | |
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| 12:44 | ashimema[m] | we should just recommend that and deprecate support for older zebra's.. it's not exactly hard to add an apt repo is it. ;) |
| 12:45 | ls | |
| 12:48 | tcohen | well, there's a problem with ID's Zebra repo: it pull Zebra 2.1, which should probably be fine, but we need to adjust our zoom perl version, etc |
| 12:48 | cait | tcohen: sounds like a good enough reason to up the minimal version requirement for zebra |
| 12:48 | tcohen | I tried and we explode |
| 12:49 | ashimema[m] | ok.. so we grab a copy of the right version and put it in our repo as the 'quick fix'.. |
| 12:49 | oleonard | https://media.giphy.com/media/[…]kgcwAE/source.gif |
| 12:49 | ashimema[m] | it's only taken us 6 years so far |
| 12:50 | tcohen | the latest 2.0 version is 2.0.62 |
| 12:50 | yeah just grab it | |
| 12:51 | ashimema[m] | @later tell mtj what are the chances of pulling zebra 2.0.62 into our deb repo's? Bug 12431 would get a whole lot easier with it. |
| 12:51 | huginn | ashimema[m]: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:52 | * ashimema[m] | would kinda like to see some progress on cleaning up Search.pm and really I'd love to see zebra bugs still paid attention to and improved.. |
| 12:52 | ashimema[m] | I don't tihnk zebra is as bad as many make out.. we just use it in a terrible way and butcher the queries so much before we let it do it's thing |
| 12:53 | cait | i think include in repo would be really ideal |
| 12:53 | and I agree about not giving up on Zebra totally | |
| 12:53 | kohaputti | I would us to get more to upstreaming things in debian rather than putting things to our repo |
| 12:53 | cait | i think it's not realisitc that we will be able to deprecate it anytime soon - also for the hardware requirements etc on elastic |
| 12:53 | ashimema[m] | ES really isn't suitable for small institutions |
| 12:54 | cait | exactly |
| 12:54 | kohaputti: it's true, we should do both | |
| 12:54 | kohaputti: put in a working fix and correcting it long term | |
| 12:54 | ashimema[m] | as nice as that would be kohaputti it doesn't really offload the burden as we'd still be the one's trying to maintain them.. only for a broader audience possibly.. and it's not trivial getting things upstreamed into debian. |
| 12:54 | cait | not sure that made sense... I emant work on both - put in our repo and work in inclusion in Debian proper |
| 12:55 | hm i thought it had been done with some things... maybe by eythian | |
| 12:55 | ashimema[m] | it's really up to indexdata to get it up to standard for debian packaging.. |
| 12:55 | not us. | |
| 12:56 | * ashimema[m] | goes for lunch |
| 12:58 | kohaputti | the amount of time gets spend everyone doing building their own koha packages would most likely be a lot more than few of these people packaging things in debian. I'm not doing the packaging work yet but when I come to that I have hunch I'm gonna go for the option to maintain packages in debian so in a year or two I don't have to review bunch of code all over again. |
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| 13:01 | kohaputti | I also would like to see koha in debian at some point |
| 13:02 | ashimema[m] | yup.. that's been the aim for the entire time I've worked on Koha ;) |
| 13:02 | tcohen | we don't have the resources to have koha-common in Debian |
| 13:03 | and our release cycles are very different | |
| 13:03 | kohaputti | if things stay the same I could work on that in 3 years but I'm not sure about things being the same in 3 years |
| 13:04 | tcohen | it is cheaper to just containerize Koha and bundle things, be it a Docker image/set of images, LXC/D or Snap |
| 13:04 | * ashimema[m] | hope he's not coming across too negative |
| 13:05 | tcohen | I have installed things on Ubuntu using snap, and it is great (for end users) |
| 13:05 | kohaputti | tcohen, and containers increases the burden for the sysadmins to make sure koha is secure and doesn't work maybe as well during upgrades |
| 13:06 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1125: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1125/ |
| 13:08 | tcohen | kohaputti I agree! but I think fixing that it is the best way to invest our (limited) energy |
| 13:08 | packaging and distros support has become one of our biggest barriers | |
| 13:09 | in many ways | |
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| 13:12 | kohaputti | we could apply for funding for packaging |
| 13:12 | ashimema[m] | from who? |
| 13:12 | and who would take on the work ;) | |
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| 13:14 | tcohen | kohaputti I'm not against working on packaging, I'm just acknowledging it is something we are struggling with a long time ago |
| 13:14 | kohaputti | there are some debian developer for hire (https://www.debian.org/consultants/) and some foundations provide funding for free software projects. |
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| 13:35 | cait | tcohen: pacakges really work well for a lot of people.. maybe hard to do, but makes it easy for the users |
| 13:35 | containerization adds a new layer | |
| 13:36 | tcohen | don't get me wrong, I'm not against packages at all |
| 13:37 | we should actually have 'more ways to run Koha' | |
| 13:37 | ashimema[m] | we have a pretty terrible grasp of dependancy management at the moment.. |
| 13:37 | tcohen | I'm discussing the value of maintaining Debian dependencies vs. bundling things |
| 13:37 | ashimema[m] | I think we need to get that sorted before moving onto better packaging ;) |
| 13:38 | ps.. there is work going on in that area.. for example moving us away from our bespoke C4::Installer::PerlDependancies.pm listing module to the more broadly adopted cpanfile format | |
| 13:38 | tcohen | Mojolicious? outdated. Zebra and friends? outdated, OAuth? outdated library and so on |
| 13:39 | we don't need to nuke down packages, but there's a symptom somethings is not going well, that's all | |
| 13:39 | ashimema[m] | we also need to be able, at the package level, to specify version ranges for our dependancies.. at the moment we only specify minumum versions and then really often break completely when a new version gets installed |
| 13:39 | and.. | |
| 13:39 | we have no formal process to update deps at all.. like tcohen has just highlighted | |
| 13:40 | we should really have something in place to make sure we check and update our dependancies with each cycle in my opinion | |
| 13:40 | we always tell people to update to point releases of Koha because we fix things and running an old version is asking for bugs... | |
| 13:41 | but we don't head our own advice when it comes to all the dependancies we pull in | |
| 13:41 | cait | good points |
| 13:41 | tcohen | also, relying entirely on Debian packages for (say) perl dependencies, doesn't allow us to support other platforms |
| 13:41 | cait | i just don't want to see them gone - the feedback is very good I get from people installing Koha on their own |
| 13:42 | tcohen | cait the opposite, we need to make packaging easier to maintain, and dependency handling simpler as well |
| 13:42 | * ashimema[m] | has been tempted for a while to build an arch package for koha :) |
| 13:43 | ashimema[m] | well.. rather an arch build file.. they don't do packages as such |
| 13:43 | tcohen | right now the packaging manager needs to take care of zilions of perl dependencies versions, probably incompatible between Debian releases |
| 13:44 | ashimema[m] my first contact with Koha was trying to creage ebuild files for all perl deps so I could install Koha on my Gentoo server :-D | |
| 13:45 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1126: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1126/ |
| 13:45 | ashimema[m] | haha.. briliant tcohen |
| 13:46 | grr.. | |
| 13:47 | I really wish I had a better grasp on packaging dependancies and koha-testing-docker and jenkins interactions :( | |
| 13:47 | mtj has packaged and published the memcached dep for us.. and I've not pushed the koha patch and corresponding debian/control file.. | |
| 13:47 | and forced a build of koha-testing-docker via jenkins | |
| 13:48 | should that not mean the dep is now pulled into koha-testing-docker? | |
| 13:49 | tcohen | if the package is built, and koha-testing-docker was rebuilt before the task was launched, then yes |
| 13:50 | I have just approved a merge request from mtj to add the lib | |
| 13:51 | to koha-testing-docker manually | |
| 13:55 | ashimema[m] | oh.. |
| 13:55 | weird | |
| 13:55 | I really don't get why we still have to add them manually so often :( | |
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| 13:58 | mtj | hiya ashimema[m], its coz the nightly job that builds a package from master, isnt running |
| 14:01 | just updating the deb/control file isnt enough for jenkins to succeed | |
| 14:02 | jenkins expects a koha-common package to have been recently built, with the new control file (and its newly added deps.) | |
| 14:04 | the new koha package gets installed at the start of the build, which also installs the newly added deps | |
| 14:05 | ashimema[m] | I see |
| 14:05 | so it's the nightly job not running that's the big issue.. | |
| 14:05 | mtj | afaik, yeah |
| 14:06 | ashimema[m] | and that's dead becuase..? |
| 14:06 | or did we never get to the bottom of tht | |
| 14:06 | mtj | disk was full |
| 14:06 | ashimema[m] | aha |
| 14:06 | that's mirko's server isn't it | |
| 14:07 | which no-one has access to | |
| 14:07 | mtj | yeah |
| 14:07 | i could have a go at replicating the nightly build script... | |
| 14:08 | ashimema[m] | no worries.. knowing the reasoning behind stuff is good enough.. |
| 14:08 | we can work around it with the koha-testing-docker stuff at the moment | |
| 14:08 | mtj | there might be another way to pull the required deps from the control file, at the start of the build |
| 14:09 | ashimema[m] | so.. is D10 basically just waiting on merging the mojo bug at this piont.. |
| 14:09 | making sure I'm on top of that too | |
| 14:09 | mtj | yep |
| 14:10 | control file method would be a bit more reliable.. wouldnt have to wait until the nighly job ran for success | |
| 14:12 | ashimema[m] | not a bad idea.. |
| 14:12 | though it become a chicken & egg situation | |
| 14:13 | i.e I 'think' the nightly script used to create the control file patches | |
| 14:13 | mtj | ah, yes true |
| 14:13 | ashimema[m] | but I think we have a handle on that now |
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| 14:14 | mtj | ill have a go at it after the mojo stuff is sorted hey |
| 14:14 | ashimema[m] | :) |
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| 14:15 | ashimema[m] | no marcelr today ? |
| 14:15 | friday is usually a nice busy QA day :) | |
| 14:15 | not so much today though :( | |
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| 14:27 | vfernandes | hi #koha |
| 14:28 | lukeG | morning all |
| 14:28 | vfernandes | it's possible to block the email sent to Koha admin by overdue_notices cronjob? |
| 14:28 | https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]e_notices.pl#L819 | |
| 14:34 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.11_D10 build #7: STILL FAILING in 7 min 21 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_D10/7/ |
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| 14:35 | ashimema[m] | can we not remove Cache::Memcached::Fast from our PerlDependancies now.. we've replaced it with Cache::Memcached::Fast::Safe (which itself lists Cache::Memcached::Fast as a dependancy so it'll pull that in for itself right?) |
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| 14:48 | kohaputti | it's super nice the cache race condition was finally resolved :) Now big libraries can use koha too |
| 14:48 | though there are some O(n^2) problems left | |
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| 14:58 | ashimema[m] | mtj still around? |
| 15:01 | cait | kohaputti: which one was that? |
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| 15:07 | kohaputti | cait, bug 13193 |
| 15:07 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13193 major, P3, ---, joonas.kylmala, Pushed to master , Make Memcached usage fork safe |
| 15:08 | ashimema[m] | ? |
| 15:08 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #123: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.05_U18/123/ |
| 15:09 | cait | oh cool! |
| 15:10 | ashimema[m] | regarding bug 19735 are we comfortable that we're losing a tiny bit of data about our dependancies in the transition? |
| 15:10 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19735 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Move Perl deps definitions into a cpanfile |
| 15:11 | ashimema[m] | i.e. the 'Usage' bit |
| 15:11 | which i think many people have never really populated in the first place properly | |
| 15:12 | kohaputti | ashimema[m], do you know the original reasoning behind it? It sounds like we can just grep the source code to find where it is used. |
| 15:13 | ashimema[m] | historical as much as anything I reckon |
| 15:13 | no real reason for it.. | |
| 15:13 | perhaps once upon a time we let people install without all the deps | |
| 15:14 | but realistically now we just assume they'll be using everything. | |
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| 15:14 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:14 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 15:15 | ashimema[m] | what might be nice however.. but this can be a new bug down the line.. is if we split out the 'phases'.. |
| 15:15 | that would nicely allow us to only install test dependancies for testing.. | |
| 15:15 | https://metacpan.org/pod/cpanfile | |
| 15:15 | kohaputti | ashimema[m], I see references to the usage in prog/en/modules/installer/step1.tt |
| 15:16 | ashimema[m] | if I'm entirely honest though.. most cpanfiles I've seen in the wild are simply a list and don't bother much with the splitting down.. |
| 15:19 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 13193: (RM follow-up) Remove Cache::Memcached::Fast from PerlDependencies <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d19b74e683d10520f> |
| 15:19 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 15:19 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 15:30 | kohaputti | ashimema[m], it seems to be just empty now since the usage info is removed but ideally I would get rid of that code too |
| 15:30 | ashimema[m] | good catch.. I agree |
| 15:31 | we drop some other details from the return of PerlModules->versions_info too | |
| 15:31 | I'm just looking to see if that's important too | |
| 15:33 | we've dropped the 'upgrade' and 'status' keys as far as I can tell | |
| 15:34 | but I 'think' he's caught those by grouping by status instead.. | |
| 15:34 | but.. I think we could also add in support for reporting on 'max' version here whilst we're at it | |
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| 16:04 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 16:04 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 16:06 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:15 | wizzyrea | objections to adding something to cleanup_database to optionally delete old label batches? |
| 16:34 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I like this productive strategy of asking for objections to something when no one is listening. I could get approval to all sorts of things. |
| 16:36 | Marie-Luce | it's the weekend in NZ |
| 16:37 | Can anyone help me to understand the "no renewal before" circulation rule? | |
| 16:37 | oleonard | And also 5:30AM in NZ :) |
| 16:39 | Marie-Luce | how does Koha calculate the days you have added in this rule? |
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| 17:05 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 17:05 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 17:08 | wizzyrea | are you saying that the nzers are the only ones who would object to such a thing? |
| 17:09 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I think just that it's not surprising you don't have a quorum |
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| 17:29 | cait | wizzyrea: if it's optional, wyh would one object? there is also alreay a bug report for that |
| 17:30 | I wrote one ages ago - because it's potentially relevant in terms of controlling the work fo your staff and such | |
| 17:30 | Marie-Luce: what's the question? i can help | |
| 17:33 | hm maybe later? got to leave now | |
| 17:33 | :) | |
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| 17:37 | Marie-Luce | how does Koha calculate the days you have added in this rule? |
| 17:37 | (from the checkout date or the due date? ) | |
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| 18:37 | wizzyrea | cait you mean https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15563 |
| 18:37 | huginn | Bug 15563: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Cronjob to regularly delete patroncard label batches |
| 18:37 | wizzyrea | ? |
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| 18:38 | wizzyrea | maybe change that to include regular label batches too :D |
| 18:49 | cait | yep |
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| 19:06 | CrispyBran | Anyone have any ideas? Can't populate expirationdate in HOLD_SLIP if patron has more than 1 hold on that bib. Anyone have an idea on work arounds to get that date? |
| 19:08 | Using [% hold.expirationdate %] currently, and it works when the patron has a single hold on the bib. | |
| 19:09 | I'm thinking it is getting information mixed between the two (or more) holds, where the other hold doesn't have an expiration date. Wondering if there is anyway to point it to the correct hold record. | |
| 19:14 | I have confirmed by looking at [% hold.reserve_id %], it is indeed looking at the wrong reserve record. | |
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| 19:16 | andrew | Does it still give you the wrong date if you use <<reserves.expirationdate>> instead? |
| 19:16 | (seems like it probably would, but worth checking) | |
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| 19:25 | caroline_catlady | in the same kind of problems, I'm trying to remove the hours from date_due on the issue slip... I added [%- USE Kohadates -%] and changed <<issues.date_due>> to [% checkout.date_due | $KohaDates %] and it gives me an error... any idea what I did wrong? |
| 19:25 | The error is ERROR PROCESSING TEMPLATE: plugin error - Kohadates: plugin not found at /inlibro/git/koha-v1905-dev-inlibro/C4/Members.pm line 612. | |
| 19:27 | CrispyBran | andrew: very odd behavior. Without changing the variable pointing to [% hold.expirationdate %], if I setup another variable pointing to <<reserves.expirationdate>>, [% hold.expirationdate %] suddenly works. |
| 19:27 | If I remove that variable, it breaks again. | |
| 19:27 | Something very wonky is going on. | |
| 19:28 | andrew | interesting! Not good, but interesting. I know very little about TT, but I wonder if it’s doing something sql-y, finding both reserves and sorta collapsing them, only showing you one |
| 19:29 | these are the things I would poke khall or lukeG for (same with your question, caroline) | |
| 19:35 | lukeG | caroline_catlady: i think you need to add [% USE $KohaDates %] at the top of your notice or it won't work |
| 19:35 | caroline_catlady | I did |
| 19:35 | See my message | |
| 19:35 | lukeG | oohh, yes you wrote that… |
| 19:35 | caroline_catlady | :) |
| 19:36 | lukeG | make sure it is KohaDates, not Kohadates |
| 19:36 | caroline_catlady | ah! |
| 19:37 | I copied it from the wiki... I'll have to change it | |
| 19:37 | thanks lukeG++ :) | |
| 19:37 | Now the date doesn't appear, but at least I don't have an error ^_^;; | |
| 19:41 | lukeG | caroline_catlady: does [% checkout.item.checkout.date_due %] work? |
| 19:41 | khall | CrispyBran are you using "hold" or "holds"? |
| 19:42 | caroline_catlady | lukeG: no... :( |
| 19:42 | lukeG | what notice is it? |
| 19:43 | caroline_catlady | ISSUESLIP |
| 19:46 | lukeG | i think you need to loop through each checkout in borrowers checkouts |
| 19:46 | [% FOREACH checkout IN borrower.checkouts %] | |
| 19:46 | [% checkout.item.checkout.date_due %] | |
| 19:46 | [% END %] | |
| 19:47 | CrispyBran | khall: hold |
| 19:47 | lukeG | caroline_catlady ^^ |
| 19:48 | caroline_catlady | oh thanks! I'll try that |
| 19:50 | khall | CrispyBran I think you could try something similar to what lukeG just wrote: |
| 19:50 | [% FOREACH h IN holds %] | |
| 19:50 | [% h.whatever %] | |
| 19:50 | [% END %] | |
| 19:52 | caroline_catlady | lukeG: do I have to put all the checkout information in the loop? (there's barcode and title just above, but I left those in between the hungry alligators) |
| 19:58 | lukeG | caroline_catlady: I think yes, you'll have to put all the checkout info in the loop |
| 20:01 | caroline_catlady | I'll try this by josef_moravec https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Template_Toolkit_.28ISSUESLIP.29 |
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| 20:16 | cait | you could probably also mix... |
| 20:16 | << ... | dateonly >> | |
| 20:17 | use the old syntax in the TT... ont ideal, but if you don't get it working otherwise | |
| 20:17 | << biblio.timestamp | dateonly >> | |
| 20:18 | caroline_catlady | getting there! I was not looking at the right thing... -_- |
| 20:18 | I mixed and matched from what lukeG1 and josef and Michael and got it working I think | |
| 20:19 | cait | :) |
| 20:20 | caroline_catlady | oh, no, it's not working... it's giving me all the same date |
| 20:20 | cait | you are trying to remove the hours? |
| 20:20 | caroline_catlady | I think it may be the same thing that's happenind as CrispyBran |
| 20:20 | yes | |
| 20:20 | cait | does kohadates give you the date? i think you can add a parameter for hours only there too |
| 20:20 | should i try and find it? | |
| 20:21 | caroline_catlady | kohadate gives me the date only, but it's all the same date |
| 20:21 | cait | hm what do you mean? |
| 20:21 | or can you share what you got so far? | |
| 20:21 | caroline_catlady | yeah one sec... |
| 20:21 | * cait | likes puzzles |
| 20:22 | caroline_catlady | :D |
| 20:22 | So these are the checkouts, one regular and two overdues https://snipboard.io/woiyU7.jpg | |
| 20:22 | cait | ok |
| 20:23 | pastebot | "caroline_catlady" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ISSUESLIP modified with TT" (36 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18834 |
| 20:23 | caroline_catlady | this is the ISSUESLIP content ^ |
| 20:23 | cait | and what are we trying to change? |
| 20:23 | retards are overdues? ;) | |
| 20:24 | [% checkout.date_due | $KohaDates %]</p> [% END %] this shoud be overdue.date_due | |
| 20:24 | because you are looping overdue in overdues | |
| 20:24 | caroline_catlady | lol yes! :) it's the same word as development "retardation" (as in being late) |
| 20:24 | ah, that must be it | |
| 20:24 | cait | are we stlil trying to change the formatting too? |
| 20:25 | caroline_catlady | works!! |
| 20:26 | oleonard | happy weekend everyone |
| 20:26 | cait | he does it on purpose... i swear |
| 20:26 | caroline_catlady | Here's the new slip with overdues corrected https://snipboard.io/C92AWV.jpg |
| 20:26 | cait | not leaving us a chance to say it back :) |
| 20:26 | do we need something else? | |
| 20:27 | caroline_catlady | nope that was it :) I was just trying to go from 02/28/2020 23:59:00 to 02/28/2020 |
| 20:27 | cait | ah :) |
| 20:27 | if you wanted them back, i thin kyou could do $KohaDates with_hours=1 | |
| 20:28 | with_hours => 1 | |
| 20:28 | but we don't want ot... so that's useless | |
| 20:28 | caroline_catlady | I think I will share it on the wiki... |
| 20:28 | cait | c |
| 20:28 | caroline_catlady++ | |
| 20:29 | caroline_catlady | Thanks lukeG1++ and cait++ :) |
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| 20:58 | caroline_catlady | How would I make something appear only if there are overdues with TT? I tried [% IF overdue %] ... [% END %] and [% IF overdues %] ... [% END %] and it doesn't work |
| 21:01 | ah it was [% IF overdues.count %] | |
| 21:01 | ashimema[m] | [% IF overdues.size |
| 21:01 | Haha.. you beat me.. I cant type fast enough on the phone | |
| 21:02 | caroline_catlady | thanks ashimema[m] :) |
| 21:02 | ashimema[m] | Count is better than size too 😀 |
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| 23:48 | caroline_catlady | have a good weekend everyone! |
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