IRC log for #koha, 2020-01-17

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06:57 marcelr hi #koha
06:57 cait hi marcelr :)
06:58 marcelr o/
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07:37 reiveune hello
07:37 wahanui hello, reiveune
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08:20 cait good morning #koha
08:26 ashimema mtj++
08:27 * magnuse waves
08:29 cait news on D10?
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08:40 ashimema indeed.. :)
08:40 all moving in the right direction
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08:53 * kohaputti got the trip booked for Koha hackfest! :)
08:56 cait congrats :)
08:56 still have to :)
08:56 did you hear back from paul_p?
08:58 magnuse kohaputti++
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09:08 eythian hi
09:18 magnuse kia ora eythian
09:18 eythian g'day magnuse
09:32 ashimema is it just me or does this code mean that 'ignore reserves' does the exact oposite of what it says it does: https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]tion.pm#L355-L360
09:33 my brain hurts
09:33 ignore that
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09:45 marcelr ignoring ignore
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09:48 ashimema lol
10:04 kohaputti ashimema, it's all good, it's ignoring the reserve if $ignoreRs
10:04 ashimema yeah.. I think I just hadn't had enough coffee the first 5 reads of it
10:04 but thanks for varifying
10:05 holds and transfers are really scary code..
10:05 we mix up state allot in that subsystem..
10:05 kohaputti the function below that, TooMany(), looks like a function in need of refactoring
10:06 ashimema datesent is used to denote two things depending on what code is looking at it..
10:06 haha.. it all needs refactoring eventually ;)
10:06 we're slowly getting there
10:06 kohaputti the moving to Koha objects has helped
10:07 ashimema if you fancied taking on an area of refactoring feel free.. perhaps make sure you don't overlap with Joubu though as he's got a bunch of them in the works.. and build a tree of small bugs rather than trying to attack a mass piece in one hit..
10:07 kohaputti no time :/
10:07 ashimema the accounts tree is a fairly good example.. lots of small bugs which are manageable for QA
10:07 haha.. no worries..
10:08 kohaputti I'm focusing on us getting to community version
10:08 ashimema :)
10:08 we need a time machine
10:08 then we could fix all the things
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10:46 kohaputti did anybody test koha yet with elasticsearch 6.x?
10:46 does it work even somehow?
10:47 fridolin kohaputti: yep we do at Biblibre, 18.11.x with some patches
10:48 kohaputti fridolin, are the patches required for it to work even suboptimally?
10:48 I would like to do a koha master installation with es 6.x
10:49 there were at least some warnings thrown with 6.x based on the bug reports
10:50 ashimema are those patches submitted fridolin
10:50 I've been trying to keep on top of ES bugs
10:51 fridolin see https://git.biblibre.com/bibli[…]ch/18.11/biblibre
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10:51 fridolin mainly  Bug 18969
10:51 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18969 normal, P3, ---, alex.arnaud, RESOLVED MOVED, _all field is deprecated - should use copy_to to prepare for ES6
10:52 kohaputti ok, so just warnings, thanks a lot fridolin ! :)
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11:11 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 24445: Add z3950 to makefile (bug 13937 follow-up) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f93eefe7a0fd04a6>
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12:25 oleonard Hi all
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12:43 cait hi oleonard
12:43 wahanui hi oleopard
12:43 oleonard Have you finished your historic exploration of Bugzilla, cait?
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12:44 cait i stopped beginning of 2018
12:45 i might do 2018 still sometime... but focusing on fixing and qa'ing now :)
12:45 oleonard: missing your fulll inbox? :)
12:45 oleonard A little :)
12:45 * oleonard wishes he could drum up some signoffs
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12:50 kohaputti tcohen, this needs the object definition part, right: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]tems_endpoint_RFC ?
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13:00 kohaputti tcohen, hmm, what's the preferred method here: /biblios/{biblio_id}/items returning full item objects or just list of item_ids?
13:00 ashimema there's a very new 'embed' header
13:01 this is what tcohen has been working on recently
13:01 kohaputti if it just returns item_ids then some applications rendering biblio + item information needs to do two or more requests to get all the info
13:01 ashimema you should return the id's unless the consumer has specifically asked for the embed
13:01 kohaputti ashimema, bug?
13:01 ashimema there's allot of them
13:02 bug 24228
13:02 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24228 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Pushed to master , Add a parameter to recursively embed objects in Koha::Object(s)->to_api
13:02 ashimema or rather bug 24302
13:02 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24302 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Add a way to specify nested objects to embed in OpenAPI
13:02 ashimema and friends
13:02 kohaputti ok
13:03 now just trying to figure out how to put this info in the rfc
13:03 ashimema I'd touch base with tcohen if you're working there ;)
13:03 he'll be able to advise best on the current state
13:04 kohaputti yeah, then I just have to wait tcohen to notice my msgs
13:05 ashimema :(
13:22 tcohen !bang
13:22 AnnaBoten There is no hunt right now! You can start a hunt with the 'start' command
13:22 tcohen hi kohaputti
13:22 hi ashimema
13:22 kohaputti tcohen, hi!
13:25 tcohen before the x-koha-embed dev, it made sense to have /biblios/:biblio_id/items return the full item objects
13:25 Now I'm not sure
13:26 if we needed the ids for some reason, we could just call it /item_ids or even make it embeddable
13:28 kohaputti tcohen, so you're thinking maybe embedding the item_ids to /biblios/:biblio_id?
13:30 that's by default, and if calls with x-koha-embed then it returns the full item objects?
13:30 and if one calls*
13:34 tcohen kohaputti nothing is done yet
13:35 but we can easily add a Koha::Biblio->item_ids method
13:35 and then set the spec to allow embedding either 'items', or 'item_ids'
13:35 we need to zoom or similar about my recent dev I belive
13:38 kohaputti hmm, somehow I feel /biblios/:biblio_id/items would still be more intuitive if by default it returns item_ids and with the embed header it returns the full items.
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13:45 tcohen kohaputti look my work here
13:45 https://gitlab.com/thekesoluti[…]0212_slowness_acq
13:45 try the /orders/ endpoint with x-koha-embed
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13:46 kohaputti ok, I will read the code after doing some ansible stuff :)
13:46 tcohen not the code
13:46 he
13:47 because it is not ready, but try Postman against the orders endpoint
13:49 !start
13:49 AnnaBoten The hunt starts now!
13:50 \_o< quack!
13:50 wahanui *click*
13:50 oleonard !bang
13:50 AnnaBoten oleonard, you missed the duck!
13:52 corilynn !bang
13:52 AnnaBoten \_x< corilynn: 1 (162.22 seconds)
13:53 \_o< quack!
13:53 wahanui oops, slipped over
13:53 oleonard !bang
13:53 AnnaBoten oleonard, you missed the duck!
13:54 * oleonard shakes his gun and peers down the barrel looking for problems
14:01 oleonard !bang
14:01 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 1 (525.16 seconds)
14:02 \_o< quack!
14:02 wahanui !bang
14:08 corilynn !bang
14:08 AnnaBoten \_x< corilynn: 2 (381.12 seconds)
14:08 [('corilynn', 2), ('oleonard', 1)]
14:08 Best time: corilynn with 162.22 seconds
14:09 \_o< quack!
14:09 wahanui *click*
14:09 corilynn oleonard, if you are still looking for SO, let me know if I can do some...
14:09 !bang
14:09 AnnaBoten corilynn, you missed the duck!
14:09 corilynn !bang
14:09 AnnaBoten \_x< corilynn: 1 (17.17 seconds)
14:10 corilynn I've got to train a cataloger here for a bit, but I'm mostly kicking around until my hours are up
14:10 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
14:10 wahanui *click*
14:11 oleonard corilynn: I've got a big list! https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]y_format=advanced
14:12 corilynn you have a very big list
14:12 oleonard corilynn: I will shower you with imaginary internet points
14:13 corilynn I'll settle for: can you tell me the best way to make CodeMirror show me double spaces like it does extra end of line spaces?
14:13 (I see at least one of these is codemirror)
14:15 oleonard corilynn: Is that a Koha CodeMirror instance or a general question?
14:15 * oleonard isn't sure in what context codemirror shows trailing spaces
14:16 corilynn Advanced Editor for cataloging
14:16 it's actually kinda nice that way
14:21 caroline_catlady good morning!
14:25 oleonard corilynn: Interestingly, the advanced editor uses custom JS to detect trailing spaces even though CodeMirror has an "official" plugin...
14:25 Neither here nor there...
14:26 corilynn maybe they didn't have it "officially" when the original code was written like forever ago
14:26 * oleonard doesn't feel like it was forever ago but is old
14:27 corilynn well, forever in terms of it was a proof of concept that weighted a thousand pounds and was forced off the ground by little pigeon wings
14:30 * caroline_catlady feels bad for the poor little pigeon
14:31 cait is Koha torturing little pigeons? an what else did I miss?
14:31 oleonard Koha has a strange anti-bird bias
14:35 caroline_catlady probably because of all the cat people?
14:37 tcohen !bang
14:37 AnnaBoten \_x< tcohen: 1 (1618.07 seconds)
14:38 cait caroline_catlady: that makes sense
14:38 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
14:38 wahanui *click*
14:38 oleonard !bang
14:38 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 1 (13.27 seconds)
14:38 [('tcohen', 1), ('oleonard', 1), ('corilynn', 1)]
14:38 Best time: oleonard with 13.27 seconds
14:39 \_o< quack!
14:39 wahanui oops, slipped over
14:39 corilynn !bang
14:39 AnnaBoten corilynn, you missed the duck!
14:39 oleonard !bang
14:39 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 1 (13.59 seconds)
14:39 corilynn I think it winged it
14:39 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
14:39 wahanui !bang
14:39 corilynn !bang
14:39 AnnaBoten corilynn, you missed the duck!
14:40 corilynn now I'm wondering what's wrong with my gun?
14:40 !bang
14:40 AnnaBoten \_x< corilynn: 1 (26.48 seconds)
14:40 \_o< quack!
14:40 wahanui *click*
14:40 oleonard !bang
14:40 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 2 (3.70 seconds)
14:40 [('oleonard', 2), ('corilynn', 1)]
14:40 Best time: oleonard with 3.70 seconds (this is your new record in this channel! Your previous record was 3.72)
14:40 oleonard took the lead for the week over ashimema with 33 points.
14:41 \_o< quack!
14:41 wahanui !bang
14:41 corilynn !bang
14:41 AnnaBoten \_x< corilynn: 1 (3.77 seconds)
14:41 * corilynn goes to clean my gun
14:42 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
14:42 wahanui !bang
14:42 eythian !bang
14:42 AnnaBoten \_x< eythian: 1 (15.94 seconds)
14:42 \_o< quack!
14:42 wahanui *click*
14:42 oleonard !bang
14:42 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 1 (5.36 seconds)
14:42 [('oleonard', 1), ('eythian', 1), ('corilynn', 1)]
14:42 Best time: corilynn with 3.77 seconds (this is your new record in this channel! Your previous record was 5.04)
14:42 ashimema took the lead for the week over oleonard with 3 points.
14:42 oleonard took the lead for the week over ashimema with 34 points.
14:43 oleonard Makes perfect sense AnnaBoten!
14:43 corilynn lol
14:43 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
14:43 wahanui oops, slipped over
14:43 corilynn !bang
14:43 AnnaBoten corilynn, you missed the duck!
14:43 oleonard !bang
14:43 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 1 (9.56 seconds)
14:43 \_o< quack!
14:43 wahanui !bang
14:43 oleonard !bang
14:43 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 2 (3.04 seconds)
14:44 oleonard \_o< ack!
14:44 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
14:44 wahanui oops, slipped over
14:45 eythian !bang
14:45 AnnaBoten \_x< eythian: 1 (23.84 seconds)
14:45 [('oleonard', 2), ('eythian', 1)]
14:45 Best time: oleonard with 3.04 seconds (this is your new record in this channel! Your previous record was 3.7)
14:45 ashimema took the lead for the week over oleonard with 3 points.
14:45 oleonard took the lead for the week over ashimema with 36 points.
14:46 \_o< quack!
14:46 wahanui oops, slipped over
14:46 eythian !bang
14:46 AnnaBoten \_x< eythian: 1 (6.92 seconds)
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14:46 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
14:46 wahanui oops, slipped over
14:47 oleonard \_o< Comrades, together we can defeat them!
14:47 cait !bang
14:47 AnnaBoten \_x< cait: 1 (61.77 seconds)
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14:47 cait got it!
14:47 eythian https://twitter.com/SayNo2Ducks here's a very dedicated, related twitter account.
14:48 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
14:48 wahanui *click*
14:48 eythian !bang
14:48 AnnaBoten \_x< eythian: 2 (5.89 seconds)
14:48 [('eythian', 2), ('cait', 1)]
14:48 Best time: eythian with 5.89 seconds (this is your new record in this channel! Your previous record was 7.87)
14:48 ashimema took the lead for the week over oleonard with 3 points.
14:48 oleonard took the lead for the week over ashimema with 36 points.
14:48 \_o< quack!
14:48 wahanui oops, slipped over
14:48 eythian !bang
14:48 AnnaBoten \_x< eythian: 1 (4.79 seconds)
14:49 \_o< quack!
14:49 wahanui !bang
14:50 oleonard corilynn: In detecting double spaces, would having a "global" detection rule in the MARC editor be okay?
14:50 corilynn yeah
14:51 I just don't know where to start?
14:51 * oleonard thinks he's got it
14:51 corilynn like, even if you said, hey, dope, here's the documentation and here's where in the code you need to update it
14:52 oleonard https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15792727428239
14:52 corilynn badass
14:52 can I make it red?
14:53 speaking of red, did everyone see the "7 red lines" skit?
14:54 https://youtu.be/BKorP55Aqvg cause that's the funniest/sad thing I've ever seen
14:56 oleonard corilynn: That is a little too real for me.
14:57 corilynn yeah, me too
14:57 oleonard corilynn: If you file a bug I can submit a patch
14:57 corilynn I've had that meeting, but replace lines with "MARC Records"
14:57 dude, awesome
14:59 Bug 24452 Submitted
14:59 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24452 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Advanced editor - show multiple spaces visually
15:08 caroline_catlady any idea on how to add onloan to the item search?
15:08 I want to be able to search only available items
15:09 I added 952q to the item search
15:09 I can find the ones that are out by searching for %
15:09 But I can't search for NULL
15:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #102: UNSTABLE in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.05_U18/102/
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15:26 oleonard !bang
15:26 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 1 (2207.94 seconds)
15:26 \_o< quack!
15:26 wahanui !bang
15:27 oleonard !bang
15:27 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 2 (14.38 seconds)
15:27 [('oleonard', 2), ('eythian', 1)]
15:27 Best time: eythian with 4.79 seconds (this is your new record in this channel! Your previous record was 5.89)
15:27 ashimema took the lead for the week over oleonard with 3 points.
15:27 oleonard took the lead for the week over ashimema with 38 points.
15:27 \_o< quack!
15:27 wahanui !bang
15:27 oleonard !bang
15:27 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 1 (3.94 seconds)
15:28 \_o< quack!
15:28 wahanui !bang
15:28 eythian !bang
15:28 oleonard !bang
15:28 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 2 (4.55 seconds)
15:28 There was no duck! eythian: -1 (4.69 seconds)
15:28 eythian I was totally first
15:28 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
15:28 wahanui *click*
15:28 oleonard !bang
15:28 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 3 (4.52 seconds)
15:28 eythian !bang
15:28 AnnaBoten \o/ oleonard: 3 ducks out of 3: perfect!!! +5 \o/
15:28 Best time: oleonard with 3.94 seconds
15:28 ashimema took the lead for the week over oleonard with 3 points.
15:28 oleonard took the lead for the week over ashimema with 46 points.
15:28 There was no duck! eythian: -1 (4.97 seconds)
15:28 eythian damn you oleopard!
15:28 * eythian shakes fist
15:28 ashimema wha
15:28 confused
15:29 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
15:29 wahanui *click*
15:29 oleonard !bang
15:29 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 1 (14.90 seconds)
15:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #101: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D9/101/
15:30 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
15:30 wahanui !bang
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15:30 oleonard !hammerthrow
15:30 AnnaBoten Error: "hammerthrow" is not a valid command.
15:31 reiveune bye
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15:31 eythian !bang
15:31 AnnaBoten eythian, you missed the duck!
15:33 eythian !bang
15:33 AnnaBoten \_x< eythian: 0 (198.82 seconds)
15:34 \_o< quack!
15:34 wahanui !bang
15:34 oleonard !bang
15:34 AnnaBoten \_x< oleonard: 2 (8.07 seconds)
15:34 [('oleonard', 2), ('eythian', 0)]
15:34 Best time: oleonard with 8.07 seconds
15:34 ashimema took the lead for the week over oleonard with 3 points.
15:34 oleonard took the lead for the week over ashimema with 48 points.
15:35 ashimema did I somehow break duckhunt
15:35 !stop
15:35 AnnaBoten Not a single duck was shot during this hunt!
15:35 Nothing to stop: there's no hunt right now.
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15:38 caroline_catlady go ducks!
15:39 fly free!
15:40 go pigeons, fly unburdened!
15:41 ashimema lol
15:46 anyone know of anyone outside of ptfs-e customers who use stockrotation yet?
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15:46 ashimema https://nimb.ws/4gizJh is a nice enhancement :)
15:47 transferstosend.. somewhat like holdstopull but for transfers :)
16:09 cait ashimema: we don't right now... but probably because we don't have publics
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16:11 ashimema I'm nearly there for 22569 now.. it'll make so much more sense next time you test it cait ;)
16:12 and I've got kyle walking the tree doing SO beneath it :)
16:12 lisettelatah ashimema, we don't use it yet but we are testing it. Our district is very interested in it. I think now our biggest hurdle is to do a larger-scale test to see how it works in production. We've only tested with very small batches and small times.
16:12 ashimema cool :)
16:13 I have a few edge cases to fix which I've been identifying this week.. but in general our customers are loving it :)
16:16 lisettelatah The other large district in our consortium doesn't like that it puts things in transit instead of just generating a list of what needs to be pulled. Did any of your customers have concerns about that?
16:17 ashimema hahahhahah
16:17 that is precisely what I'm working to fix at the moment
16:17 our branchtransfers system is a mess
16:18 koha generally that is..
16:18 basically.. there is no way to trigger things otherwise as it stands..
16:18 tcohen #koha I've submitted bug 20212 for early review/feedback
16:18 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, ASSIGNED , Slowness in Receiving in Acquisitions
16:19 ashimema bug 23092 aims to fix that
16:19 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Transfers should record 'requested' as well as  'sent' and 'arrived' dates.
16:19 tcohen I kept the current table for comparing it
16:19 but I want opinions on reasons to keep the search on the left, given the fact that there's inline column search on the table
16:19 ashimema nice one tcohen.. I'll stick it at the top of my list for monday :)
16:20 tcohen it is not ready for testing
16:20 it only show it works
16:20 and how we can use the API
16:20 on datatables
16:20 still WIP, but I managed to make it look like the original one
16:22 ashimema lisettelatah: you can also run the cron in test mode I believe which would output the lists but not set the transit
16:23 lisettelatah That is good to know. I'll let her know that I and I think that would work for us as well.
16:25 ashimema hmm
16:26 when you 'cancel' a transfer.. should it really just be deleted forever or should it be marked as cancelled somehow?
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16:26 ashimema feels wrong that it just gets nuked entirely
16:30 lisettelatah Agreed, to me it would make more sense if it got marked as cancelled somewhere.
16:30 caroline_catlady +1
16:30 like holds?
16:32 cait bye all, have a nice weekend!
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16:33 ashimema indeed
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16:51 corilynn philosophical question: why does the basic MARC editor make me feel like an idiot?
16:52 I'm trying to test bug 16683 to SO for oleonard, but I can't get the 590 field to show up in my default framework :(
16:52 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16683 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Help links to fields 59X in cataloguing form are broken
16:54 caroline_catlady corilynn: https://inlibro.com/en/knowled[…]unavailable-tags/ let me know if it helps or not
16:55 corilynn but 590 *is* listed
16:55 I will add it anyway
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16:58 corilynn caroline_catlady still no joy
16:58 I added 590-593
16:58 and those fields aren't listed at the top of the tab for 5
16:59 I'm testing on http://sb1.sandboxes.bywatersolutions.com/ the "helplink" instance
17:02 oleonard corilynn: In the MARC framework configuration you have to have "editor" checked for the subfields you want to display
17:03 Framework -> Tag 590 -> Subfield structure
17:03 corilynn Ermagod, that's umm... ok
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17:11 corilynn No, that's not working for 591
17:17 * oleonard basks in the serotonin rush of a fresh signoff
17:18 corilynn I'm like 90% close to this one, but I can't make those fields show up
17:19 oleonard 591 was set to display in tab 0 instead of 5
17:19 corilynn oh, weird
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17:27 corilynn oh "Managed in tab"
17:28 thank the dear overlord I don't have to use the basic editor
17:28 cait for every user its cataloguing editor... :)
17:35 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:35 wahanui Congratulations!
17:35 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #104: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_19.05_U18/104/
17:38 Yippee, build fixed!
17:38 wahanui Congratulations!
17:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #103: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D8/103/
17:41 corilynn so true, cait!
17:42 cait I borrowed from ranganathan
17:45 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:45 wahanui Congratulations!
17:45 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #103: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_D9/103/
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17:53 corilynn Ok, so one thing I've learned is that the "Text for librarian field" on /cgi-bin/koha/admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl is required otherwise it silently doesn't save
17:54 cait that's true
17:54 i just ran into that as well
17:54 corilynn You want to write the bug, or shall i?
17:55 cait would you? just got home
17:55 corilynn no problem at all
17:55 cait thx :)
17:55 corilynn I'll post it here so you can add words later in case it doesn't make any sense
17:55 cait hm maybe start with a serach, i got a feeling
17:55 corilynn will do
17:56 cait hm not finding one - couldn't resist
17:56 corilynn me either
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18:05 cait corilynn: are you using the standard xslt at the moment?
18:05 corilynn yes
18:05 I'm using a sandbox
18:05 cait i have a couple of fixes on our brnach and was wondering about moving them into Koha properly
18:06 corilynn ok
18:06 cait would it be ok to ask you sometime? bit worried to fall into 'german' MARC traps :)
18:06 corilynn absolutely
18:07 cait thx :)
18:07 corilynn I don't know what a German MARC trap is, but I don't want to fall into one
18:07 cait i mostly work with MARC data from our union catalog - German catalogers usually don't work with MARC
18:07 corilynn oh? what to they use, cait?
18:07 cait it's converted from the internal format to MARC... so it's very consistent
18:08 there used to be a German format called MAB, but it's 'dying'
18:08 for our union catalog we use our own internal format
18:08 corilynn ah
18:09 cait MARC is becoming the standard for data exchange, but not all have switched yet fom MAB
18:09 corilynn cool
18:10 created Bug 24453, cait
18:10 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24453 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Framework configuration, silently fails with no "Text for librarian"
18:10 cait corilynn++
18:13 oleonard corilynn++
18:23 tcohen !bang
18:23 AnnaBoten There is no hunt right now! You can start a hunt with the 'start' command
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19:58 oleonard Hi mng!
19:58 mng Hi oleonard, how r u?
19:58 oleonard I'm doing well thanks, how about you?
19:59 mng Thanks, me too.
19:59 Did I miss developer meeting?
20:01 oleonard There was a dev meeting on Wednesday, and a Koha-US development committee meeting today
20:02 mng I were not able to see meeting logs
20:05 I've found it on https://meetings.koha-community.org/2020/ but not in https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_15_January_2020
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20:09 oleonard ashimema: Is there a post-meeting script that needs to be run for the dev meeting wednesday?
20:12 @later tell ashimema  Is there a post-meeting script that needs to be run for the dev meeting wednesday?
20:12 huginn` oleonard: The operation succeeded.
20:12 oleonard See you all later, have a good weekend!
20:12 corilynn anyone know anything about batch modification templates?
20:14 caroline_catlady what are you trying to do?
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20:20 corilynn I have a cataloger here that wants to run her macro (from advanced editor) on a bunch of records
20:20 and she found the batch modification thingy, but when she wants to create a new field, it just pops into the end
20:21 not where it should be, and there's no way to specify "at the bottom of the 6xx" or something like that
20:21 Do you know of a way to do that, caroline_catlady?
20:23 caroline_catlady no, for some reason it's always put at the end
20:23 corilynn ok
20:23 caroline_catlady In the regular cataloguing form, it's set back to where it's supposed to be because it is constained by the form
20:25 corilynn I guess that makes sense
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