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| 00:03 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #87: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D9/87/ |
| 00:08 | Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #87: UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D8/87/ | |
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| 00:16 | rangi | caroline_catlady: looks good to me |
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| 00:23 | ednalyn | Good Morning i just want to enquire about our Koha account |
| 00:24 | rangi | Hi ednalyn, not sure what you mean about account? |
| 00:24 | ednalyn | about how we can access all the lists of thew names of koha members in our library system |
| 00:26 | hayley | hi ednalyn you can use the Reports module, here are some reports you can copy and paste to get the right information https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]L_Reports_Patrons |
| 00:26 | ednalyn | Because someone before us made the account of Koha and right now were having a problem how can we access fully in Koha system |
| 00:28 | what can we do as a librarian because we cannot fully access on the acount? like ecoding new list of names for Koha members | |
| 00:29 | hayley | to access all functions you need to have a user with superlibrarian permissions, if you have an admin user you may be able to assign permissions to a user to be able to access all functions |
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| 03:59 | edgard | holi |
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| 05:21 | ednalyn | how we can have superlibrarian permissions,because someone before me is not here anymore |
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| 07:03 | fridolin | hi |
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| 07:37 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:37 | * cait | waves |
| 07:39 | magnuse | ~~~ |
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| 07:52 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 07:54 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:54 | wahanui | hello, reiveune |
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| 07:55 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 08:21 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 08:22 | magnuse | hiya cait |
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| 09:28 | eythian | hi |
| 09:28 | wahanui | hey, eythian |
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| 10:10 | cait | tcohen: if you have a second, could you weigh in on bug 15331? |
| 10:10 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15331 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Sort order breaks at offset=1000 (both OPAC and Intranet) |
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| 10:12 | cait | also ashimema[m] maybe? |
| 10:12 | ashimema[m] | ? |
| 10:12 | cait | question about the default sort order limit with zebra |
| 10:12 | ashimema[m] | ok.. will take a look in a moment |
| 10:13 | cait | thx |
| 10:14 | kohaputti | if we refactor something in C4::Reserves.pm to make things faster and easier to understand then that would required a new subroutine... Would it be okay in this case to add new one under C4? |
| 10:15 | there was a sub called IsItemAvailable or something like that and it does way too many things inside one subroutine and it would benefit from splitting it to more easily understandable chunks | |
| 10:21 | ashimema[m] | I have no issue with that as a step towards more managable code.. anything that makes C4 clearer to aid the move to Koha:: isn't a bad idea in my book.. adding entirely new code in C4 without making clear it's a clarification step towards Koha:: isn't harder to justify |
| 10:21 | I personally often do it in two steps like this.. clarify then move | |
| 10:22 | just remember to make sure it's thoroughly tested ;) | |
| 10:26 | davidnind | @later tell caroline_catlady Hoping to wake up before the documentation meeting, if I don't I will have slept through my alarm! :) (also, have made a couple of small changes to the agenda) |
| 10:26 | huginn` | davidnind: The operation succeeded. |
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| 10:29 | kohaputti | ashimema[m], thanks |
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| 10:53 | mtj | kia ora #koha |
| 10:53 | hey ashimema[m], i saw you mention debian 10 problems at the meeting today... | |
| 10:54 | ...is there a brief list about, of what they are? | |
| 10:55 | ashimema[m] | I think that's part of the problem.. we've not really got a clear list as yet |
| 10:55 | let me dig out the email chain.. Mirko and Fridolin were talking about it briefly | |
| 10:59 | mtj | np, i thought i would have a go at building a koha 19.11.01 package on deb 10 |
| 10:59 | ashimema[m] | that would be awesome |
| 10:59 | mtj | ..and see what problems i hit |
| 11:00 | cait | was Unaccent one? |
| 11:00 | ashimema[m] | I expect a bunch of tests to fail once we have a package but I don't expect you to fix those.. my hope is that once we have a package that builds we can start running the tests on Jenkins and clean up the mess between us. |
| 11:00 | Unaccent is certainly one I think | |
| 11:01 | as is Mojo and OpenAPI versions | |
| 11:03 | aha.. | |
| 11:03 | mtj | ^ ah yep.. ive seen those 3 mentioned in various bugs |
| 11:03 | * ashimema[m] | sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]cCQjczVxfUjuCuGfW > |
| 11:04 | ashimema[m] | that was from fridolin to mirko back in september |
| 11:04 | * ashimema[m] | sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]aQqXgyclqkEEzVTqG > |
| 11:04 | ashimema[m] | so.. that's the last I heard from Mirko to be honest |
| 11:05 | fridolin | i have not been on it since |
| 11:05 | ashimema[m] | so.. I think that's some fairly fundamental things that need thinking about.. stuff I've not even pondered yet :( |
| 11:05 | hi frido :) | |
| 11:05 | fridolin | i dont know packaging, i just now the issues ;) |
| 11:06 | ashimema[m] | well.. that's certainly a starting place.. I haven't tried to build Koha on a D10 at all yet myself :( |
| 11:06 | been meaning to fo ages | |
| 11:10 | mtj | i'll make a start on it, and see if i can work thru the problems as i hit them |
| 11:10 | cait | mtj++ |
| 11:10 | ashimema[m] | reach out as needed.. even if all some of us can offer is a rubber duck ;) |
| 11:10 | * ashimema[m] | feels uplifted today.. thanks :) |
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| 11:19 | mtj | my pleasure :0) |
| 11:24 | the current 19.11 package installs ok on deb10 (at least) | |
| 11:25 | ^ the libref-util-perl / perl5.20 problem seems ok too | |
| 11:26 | ashimema[m] | interesting |
| 11:26 | any comment there fridolin#? | |
| 11:26 | * any comment there fridolin? | |
| 11:26 | mtj | ..on deb10, libref-util installs into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.28 (as expected?) |
| 11:28 | fridolin | ashimema[m]: ah but is it OK for Ubuntu Bionic ? |
| 11:29 | it uses perl 5.26.1 | |
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| 11:30 | mtj | pass on ubuntu... yet |
| 11:31 | im really curious why bionic is missing a bunch of packages that exist in releases before *and* after it | |
| 11:34 | i think for bionic - we need to package the few missing bionic packages in the kc.org repo | |
| 11:36 | kohaputti | mtj, are you mirko? |
| 11:36 | ashimema[m] | mirko is drojf kohaputti |
| 11:36 | mtj | no no, im mason |
| 11:37 | ..from new zealand | |
| 11:37 | kohaputti | ok, I was hoping to ping drojf about bug 13193 (there is a request for a new debian package) |
| 11:37 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13193 critical, P3, ---, joonas.kylmala, ASSIGNED , Make Memcached usage fork safe |
| 11:37 | ashimema[m] | mirko and mason have been out diligent package maintainers working as a team for the past few releases.. but mirko has gone awol the last few months and mason is being awesome and stepping up a bit :) |
| 11:38 | yeah.. that's on the list too kohaputti ;) | |
| 11:39 | kohaputti | I have done few debian packages but it's really not something I'm passionate about soo hoping someone else finds it more interesting :) |
| 11:45 | mtj | i'm happy to package it for the kc.org repo (to me, it seems to be the best way forward) |
| 11:46 | ..and then work on getting the package into debian proper | |
| 11:47 | ashimema[m] | :) |
| 11:48 | if we can get the D10 builds running on the nightlies codename to start with.. then we can turn on Jenkins again for D10 and start working through the inevitable bugs :) | |
| 11:48 | to me, that's our first step | |
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| 11:54 | mtj | sounds good, i'll finish off my d10 build |
| 11:57 | ashimema[m] | thanks dude |
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| 12:04 | mtj | hmm, bionic seems to install koha 19.11.01 ok too |
| 12:05 | the missing bionic packages *are* already included in the kc.org repo | |
| 12:05 | ashimema[m] | :) |
| 12:06 | eythian | mtj: aloha |
| 12:07 | ashimema[m] | we already have Bionic testing running on Jenkins.. |
| 12:07 | mtj | hey eythian |
| 12:07 | ashimema[m] | and we're not interested in Disco or Eoan I think (Only LTS Ubuntu's was our agreement way back when) |
| 12:08 | ack.. Focal will be an LTS though.. 20.04... so we'll have this all over again with that | |
| 12:08 | assuming we continue to want to offer that patturn of support | |
| 12:08 | * ashimema[m] | heads out for a quick walk |
| 12:10 | mtj | eythian: giz a ping when youre heading to HZ, im keen to catchup for a bier 🍺 :0) |
| 12:11 | eythian | mtj: sure thing :) |
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| 12:12 | cait | bier? :) |
| 12:18 | mtj | bier/beer |
| 12:19 | cait | just wondered if you wanted german beer specifically :) |
| 12:23 | mtj | hmm, thats a delicious idea cait :p |
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| 12:34 | BR_ | Hi, I was chatting with members yesterday and my computer crashed. Is there an archive where i can check what was the last response from members to my last entry. |
| 12:35 | mtj | ping fridolin: the libref-util-perl/perl-5.20 problem seems to only be on bionic (using the ubuntu package too) |
| 12:36 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:36 | magnuse | BR_: http://irc.koha-community.org/ |
| 12:36 | BR_ | thanks |
| 12:43 | mtj | fridolin: does the perl-5.20 bug stop libref-util-perl from working? - or does it just install the files into an incorrect dir |
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| 12:55 | fridolin | mtj: indeed, its the pb of perl with compiled code |
| 12:55 | can we create libref-util-perl-5.2' ? and koha-perldeps-bionic ? | |
| 12:57 | mtj | hi frido, bug stop libref-util-perl from working? |
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| 13:14 | mtj | fridolin: i think a fix would be to add libref-util-perl (0.204-1) to kc.org repo |
| 13:15 | fridolin | bug is that perl code is not activ since its not in PER5LIB |
| 13:15 | and compiled code is i think bad | |
| 13:16 | libref-util-perl can be in kc.org repo but how do we provide both perl versions ? | |
| 13:18 | mtj | aah hmm, the problem is more complex than i thought.. |
| 13:18 | ..there are more pkgs with files in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20, in bionic | |
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| 13:35 | mtj | fridolin: i think your koha-perldeps-bionic package would work well :0) |
| 13:36 | fridolin | but we may create a package libref-util-perl-dev that launches the compilation |
| 13:36 | i dont know with solution is best | |
| 13:37 | ... or CPAN \o/ | |
| 13:41 | mtj | hmm, yeah.. not sure about that too |
| 13:41 | * mtj | heads to bed - its late! ;) |
| 13:42 | oleonard | I'll say mtj! |
| 13:42 | mtj++ | |
| 13:49 | caroline_catlady | good morning everyone! |
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| 13:52 | oleonard | Hi caroline_catlady |
| 13:56 | cait | morning caroline_catlady, hi oleonard |
| 13:57 | caroline_catlady | davidnind: are you awake? |
| 13:57 | cait | oleonard: from your twitter mood... can I hell? |
| 13:57 | help! | |
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| 13:57 | oleonard | Thanks cait! It's just, y'know.... 2020. |
| 13:57 | * oleonard | gestures to everything |
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| 13:59 | * oleonard | sets his Bugzilla preferences back to that old comfy purple skin |
| 14:00 | cait | oleonard: ah, that.. yeah |
| 14:00 | caroline_catlady | ready for meeting? |
| 14:00 | cait | oh |
| 14:00 | no , but yes? | |
| 14:01 | caroline_catlady | #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020 |
| 14:01 | huginn` | Meeting started Thu Jan 9 14:01:11 2020 UTC. The chair is caroline_catlady. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:01 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
| 14:01 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) | |
| 14:01 | huginn` | The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_9_january_2020' |
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| 14:01 | ashimema[m] | ooh.. meeting :) |
| 14:01 | caroline_catlady | #topic Introductions |
| 14:01 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) | |
| 14:01 | caroline_catlady | please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes |
| 14:01 | ashimema[m] | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 14:01 | caroline_catlady | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inLibro |
| 14:02 | Marie-Luce | #info Marie-Luce Laflamme, inLibro |
| 14:02 | georgew | #George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System |
| 14:02 | cait | #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:02 | caroline_catlady | davidnind says he set his alarm but might not have woken up... :( |
| 14:02 | georgew | #info George Williams, Northeast Kansas Library System |
| 14:03 | davidnind | #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
| 14:03 | caroline_catlady | oh hi! |
| 14:04 | davidnind | morning! |
| 14:04 | wahanui | morning is always someone's afternoon |
| 14:04 | caroline_catlady | #topic Review of action points |
| 14:04 | Topic for #koha is now Review of action points (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) | |
| 14:04 | caroline_catlady | #chair davidnind |
| 14:04 | huginn` | Current chairs: caroline_catlady davidnind |
| 14:04 | caroline_catlady | Ok so action point from last time |
| 14:04 | review of documentation manager role | |
| 14:05 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]tation_management | |
| 14:05 | anybody have comments on what was done? | |
| 14:05 | davidnind | looks good so far |
| 14:05 | * caroline_catlady | realizes she hasn't sent a reminder of the meeting on the list like it's written on that page ... -_- |
| 14:06 | caroline_catlady | will do better next time! |
| 14:06 | Also Review of transition workflow | |
| 14:06 | #link https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]-manual/issues/13 | |
| 14:07 | there has been some more dwork done on this | |
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| 14:07 | caroline_catlady | I branched 19.11 so we are effectively working on the 20.05 manual! |
| 14:07 | hoping to get 19.11 up to date asap before the new features and enhacements start rolling in for 20.05 | |
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| 14:08 | caroline_catlady | davidnind: you had a concern about the branching? |
| 14:09 | davidnind | that's all good |
| 14:09 | thd | #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City - [mild cold] |
| 14:09 | caroline_catlady | ok |
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| 14:09 | * ashimema[m] | should read the latest updates there.. will catch up |
| 14:09 | caroline_catlady | Last action point Managing branches and back porting changes |
| 14:10 | davidnind | got in the swing of back porting changes, so happy to do that if you would like |
| 14:10 | caroline_catlady | Like I said, I branched 19.11, and I have been backporting commits as needed |
| 14:10 | Joubu | #info Jonathan Druart |
| 14:10 | caroline_catlady | rangi said what I did was ok, so I'll try to document what I did for future reference |
| 14:11 | ashimema[m] | ++ |
| 14:11 | cait | caroline_catlady++ |
| 14:12 | caroline_catlady | #topic Project updates |
| 14:12 | Topic for #koha is now Project updates (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) | |
| 14:12 | caroline_catlady | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ists_and_projects |
| 14:12 | anybody have updates on projects they have been working on? | |
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| 14:14 | thd | I am back in New York where I can work on Koha instead of cleaning ceiling's etc. for my mother in California. |
| 14:14 | caroline_catlady | hehe! |
| 14:15 | davidnind | nothing to add from me (did nothing over the xmas break :-() |
| 14:15 | * cait | was lazy too |
| 14:16 | caroline_catlady | alright so we'll see next time |
| 14:16 | #topic What's been done so far | |
| 14:16 | Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) | |
| 14:17 | caroline_catlady | davidnind: has been doing some maintenance work |
| 14:17 | with bernardo | |
| 14:18 | ashimema[m] | :) |
| 14:18 | caroline_catlady | lucyvh has been doing several changes from 18.11, thanks for catching us up! |
| 14:18 | davidnind | lucyvh++ |
| 14:19 | caroline_catlady | ashimema[m] has the trophy for first commit to 19.11 :) add EDI LRP support to stock rotation |
| 14:19 | cait | so happy to see all the updates! |
| 14:19 | caroline_catlady | and AndyBoze has the trophy for first commit to 20.05 and it's his first contribution! |
| 14:20 | We also have another first contributor : Alexander Borkowski (not sure what is the irc handle) | |
| 14:20 | ashimema[m]++ lucyvh++ AndyBoze++ everyone++ :D | |
| 14:20 | ashimema[m] | hehe.. i wrote that submission months ago when i wrote the code :) |
| 14:21 | * ashimema[m] | would encourage devs to try to do the same. |
| 14:21 | ashimema[m] | awesome to see new contributors too :) |
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| 14:21 | ashimema[m] | woop, woop |
| 14:21 | cait | woop! |
| 14:21 | caroline_catlady | yes! yay! |
| 14:22 | awesome everyone! | |
| 14:22 | davidnind | caroline_catlady has been adding all the tasks to taiga, and a bit of a flurry of changes in the last week by Holly |
| 14:22 | lucyvh | Apologies, lost track of time! |
| 14:22 | caroline_catlady | right! I merged them and totally forgot to mention it :) |
| 14:23 | lucyvh | Hi everyone |
| 14:23 | caroline_catlady | hi lucyvh! we were just ++ing you for your great work :) |
| 14:23 | davidnind | hi lucyvh! |
| 14:24 | caroline_catlady | #topic Content development guidelines |
| 14:24 | Topic for #koha is now Content development guidelines (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) | |
| 14:24 | caroline_catlady | davidnind has been working on this |
| 14:24 | New section on commit messages | |
| 14:24 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]n#Commit_messages | |
| 14:25 | (though I don't think we will not refuse commits if they don't have this formar) | |
| 14:25 | also more info on how to write links | |
| 14:25 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_and_Tricks#Links | |
| 14:26 | words to use instead of others | |
| 14:26 | #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Word_usage_-_A-Z | |
| 14:26 | for example use staff clinet instead of intranet, etc... | |
| 14:26 | *client | |
| 14:26 | cait | wow, very cool |
| 14:26 | ashimema[m] | awesome work |
| 14:26 | cait | consistent use of words is helpful for translations as well |
| 14:27 | although one could argue that we don't have a client | |
| 14:27 | in technical terms | |
| 14:27 | lucyvh | Its so useful to have all this written up somewhere - amazing work! |
| 14:27 | caroline_catlady | I agree, but that's in the Koha terminology... |
| 14:28 | cait | oh i see |
| 14:28 | caroline_catlady | Personnaly, I would prefer staff interface |
| 14:28 | cait | same :) |
| 14:28 | we use the literal translation fo that in German | |
| 14:28 | caroline_catlady | #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology |
| 14:28 | davidnind | I've got a few more, but started with a couple (staff client was from the current terminology list at https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Terminology) |
| 14:28 | cait | so maybe we shoudl rethink that there than if we want to change |
| 14:29 | caroline_catlady | is it used a lot in the code of Koha? |
| 14:29 | davidnind | do we want to change it? I prefer staff interface myself |
| 14:29 | caroline_catlady | Ok, so we'll change it for the documentation |
| 14:30 | lucyvh | +1 for staff interface |
| 14:30 | davidnind | I think I've seen all of them used so far in the manual |
| 14:30 | caroline_catlady | ashimema[m]: you can decide what you want to do in Koha's code itself |
| 14:30 | ashimema[m] | code wise we say 'intranet'.. but that all hidden to end users in reality |
| 14:30 | oleonard | My quick search only turns up one use of "staff client" in the templates |
| 14:30 | cait | i think there is everything in the gui now |
| 14:30 | ashimema[m] | terms wise I'm happy with 'staff interface' as the standard |
| 14:30 | thd | Even if "X client" may be technically correct in terms of function. People in the general population at least may relate better to "interface". |
| 14:30 | cait | so not too late to change :) |
| 14:31 | caroline_catlady | ok davidnind can you change the wiki page? |
| 14:31 | ashimema[m] | I think it's most likely to come up allot in the manual but very rarely be a term we use in koha itself |
| 14:31 | cait | i think probably in the prefs most |
| 14:31 | davidnind | I will! |
| 14:31 | oleonard | Switching from "intranet" to "staff client" was an improvement but also an arbitrary decision. |
| 14:31 | cait | but t would be an easy clean-up job |
| 14:31 | ashimema[m] | coolios |
| 14:31 | cait | oleonard: are you ok too with staff interface? |
| 14:31 | caroline_catlady | #action davidnind will change the manual terminology from staff client to staff interface |
| 14:31 | cait | so maybe we should change both pages |
| 14:32 | oleonard | I imagine that support companies might have standardized on "staff client" in their web sites and documentation? |
| 14:32 | Something to check on. | |
| 14:32 | Otherwise I like staff interface. | |
| 14:32 | caroline_catlady | we use intranet or staff interface in our local docs |
| 14:32 | cait | quickly checking bywater for some samples |
| 14:33 | davidnind | as the terminology page is part of the development guide, should we raise at development meeting as well? |
| 14:33 | caroline_catlady | #action caroline will add a task to change the terms in the manual |
| 14:33 | georgew | I hear staff client, staff interface, and intranet from ByWater all the time. It depends on who you're talking to. |
| 14:34 | cait | hm couldn#t turn up an example yet |
| 14:34 | oleonard | ByWater can patch those humans' operating systems in a snap right? |
| 14:34 | lucyvh | We use all those variations times also at PTFS |
| 14:34 | georgew | I'm sure they'd like to |
| 14:34 | It varies in the documentation I've seen from them to | |
| 14:34 | cait | thx georgew |
| 14:34 | georgew | And it changes overtime |
| 14:35 | caroline_catlady | so there isn't a standard, but for the manual, we want it to be consistent |
| 14:35 | I will be an easy task for a newbie to commit | |
| 14:36 | we're also thinking of adding a glossary to the manual to help ppl who are coming from other systems | |
| 14:36 | I started one on a local branch | |
| 14:36 | I will commit it soon, but I'm not sure how to make it show up in the table of contents | |
| 14:36 | is it automatic? | |
| 14:37 | davidnind | the glossary is autogenerated I think |
| 14:37 | caroline_catlady | is it? |
| 14:37 | cait | caroline_catlady: i think it's automatic yes |
| 14:37 | hm would it be top level new file? | |
| 14:37 | caroline_catlady | that's wahat I was thinking |
| 14:38 | so it could go at the end | |
| 14:38 | cait | let me quickly check |
| 14:38 | pastebot | "caroline_catlady" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "here's what an entry looks like in my file" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18771 |
| 14:39 | caroline_catlady | the "see" is "instead of term 1, use term 2 |
| 14:40 | so in my example, loan will refer to checkout | |
| 14:40 | cait | i thought it was source/index.rst |
| 14:41 | davidnind | the terms show up in the index, there is a link to that at the top and bottom of each manual page |
| 14:41 | cait | ah it is: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]/source/index.rst |
| 14:41 | gitlab does some rendering that makes some not show, but you can see it in raw | |
| 14:41 | you just sort your new file in there | |
| 14:42 | caroline_catlady | ok thanks cait |
| 14:42 | davidnind: I found the index list, but it's empty | |
| 14:42 | cait | i thin it just looks like it on gitlab - did you try 'raw'? |
| 14:42 | or edit, if you are logge din | |
| 14:43 | davidnind | that's because there areno entries yet |
| 14:43 | caroline_catlady | https://koha-community.org/man[…]tml/genindex.html |
| 14:43 | ok so when I add my file, it will populate this? | |
| 14:44 | davidnind | should do, I think it did when I tested |
| 14:44 | caroline_catlady | ok cool! |
| 14:45 | #topic Next steps | |
| 14:45 | Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) | |
| 14:45 | caroline_catlady | I wanted to talk about priorities |
| 14:45 | cait | oh, different file! |
| 14:46 | caroline_catlady | I'd really like to catch up 19.11 so that when the devs start to add new stuff to 20.05 we can stay on top |
| 14:46 | ashimema[m] | +1 |
| 14:46 | caroline_catlady | so priority #1 is anything in 19.11 on Taiga |
| 14:46 | cait | should we note versions in commit messages? |
| 14:47 | caroline_catlady | I started adding "new feature", "enhancement" and "screenshot" tags in taiga, and that is the prioriuty order too (new features, then enhancements, then screenshots) |
| 14:47 | ashimema[m] | probably a good idea |
| 14:47 | caroline_catlady | write the version number in the commit message or the commit comment |
| 14:47 | davidnind | I think adding it to the merge request would be better, e.g. this was added in 19.05, etc |
| 14:48 | caroline_catlady | as long as it's written somewhere |
| 14:49 | There are some interesting agenda points still to cover, but I think we on't have enough time | |
| 14:50 | is it ok if we move these to the next meeting? | |
| 14:50 | davidnind | that's fine with me |
| 14:50 | ashimema[m] | me too |
| 14:50 | caroline_catlady | ok good! |
| 14:50 | cait | yes |
| 14:50 | caroline_catlady | #topic Set time of next meeting |
| 14:50 | Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 January 2020) | |
| 14:51 | caroline_catlady | feb 6? 20UTC? |
| 14:51 | davidnind | +1 |
| 14:52 | hope it's not too late for everyone else... | |
| 14:52 | thd | +1 |
| 14:52 | ashimema[m] | 1 |
| 14:52 | lucyvh | +1 |
| 14:53 | caroline_catlady | #info Next meeting: 6 February 2020, 20 UTC |
| 14:53 | #endmeeting | |
| 14:53 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
| 14:53 | huginn` | Meeting ended Thu Jan 9 14:53:25 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:53 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-01-09-14.01.html | |
| 14:53 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]0-01-09-14.01.txt | |
| 14:53 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]09-14.01.log.html | |
| 14:53 | caroline_catlady | thanks everyone! |
| 14:53 | davidnind | caroline_catlady++ |
| 14:54 | lucyvh | Thanks all |
| 14:56 | oleonard | caroline_catlady++ |
| 14:57 | davidnind | (I borrowed the format for the word usage list from the IBM Style Guide https://www.oreilly.com/librar[…]e/9780132118989/) |
| 15:03 | caroline_catlady | ashimema[m]: can you run the script that adds the minutes and things to the meeting wiki page? |
| 15:08 | thd | Putting my cold back to sleep before I have to go to work. |
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| 15:13 | caroline_catlady | I find the email subject "Warning about patron relationship problems" incredibly funny... Like "oh those two aren't together anymore, he never did the dishes" |
| 15:18 | ashimema[m] | lol |
| 15:19 | and I've run the meeting script now | |
| 15:19 | caroline_catlady | thx! |
| 15:19 | oleonard | caroline_catlady: I have a feeling there are library patrons about whom librarians would like to use that message |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | bahaha |
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| 16:14 | caroline_catlady | is there a bug to remane the "news" tool now that it's not only for news? |
| 16:14 | oleonard | Not that I've seen caroline_catlady |
| 16:17 | caroline_catlady | Added Bug 24387 |
| 16:17 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24387 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Rename News tool |
| 16:17 | caroline_catlady | probably easy enuogh to change |
| 16:24 | oleonard | caroline_catlady is drunk with power after renaming the staff client |
| 16:24 | caroline_catlady | lol!! |
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| 16:29 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 18731: (QA follow-up) Spelling and POD corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]52f8da3411d0c1c87> |
| 16:29 | News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Use the stashed koha.embed in objects.search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]abc6fb65a656bd3de> | |
| 16:29 | News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Add API mappings to K::A::{Basket,Invoice} <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d444aec6fe69d9147> | |
| 16:29 | News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Make authenticate_api_request stash the embed structure <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a651f767b71dd0701> | |
| 16:29 | News from kohagit: Bug 18731: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0f022a086ea78432e> | |
| 16:29 | News from kohagit: Bug 18731: OpenAPI definitions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]38ddb587f67c5a617> | |
| 16:29 | News from kohagit: Bug 18731: /acquisitions/orders endpoint <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2af9bb7bac569f87a> | |
| 16:39 | News from kohagit: Bug 24257: Fix close of modal on 'Yes, print slip' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]892dcaa63b7d7a9a5> | |
| 16:39 | News from kohagit: Bug 24255: Add summation methods to Koha::Account::Lines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c6b1dc638aa062768> | |
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| 16:49 | ashimema[m] | funny.. I was going to say can we rename the news tool :) |
| 16:49 | thanks for reporting it caroline_catlady | |
| 16:56 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 21959: Add sponsor details <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cbef242f7beb58d37> |
| 16:57 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:04 | * ashimema[m] | is pleased to see the release note already starting to fill up nicely for 20.05 🙂 https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]notes_19_12_00.md |
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| 17:35 | caroline_catlady | question: the BarcodeSeparators syspref, does it affect the barcode files or the barcodes you enter in the box? |
| 17:36 | it's not clear in the bug description bug 22996 | |
| 17:36 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22996 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Move barcode separators to a preference |
| 17:37 | caroline_catlady | and other related question do we have to espace all the characters we put in there? it only says to escape the hyphen, but shouldn't the dot be escaped too? |
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| 18:45 | oleonard | Anyone know if there is a way to add multiple patrons to a club at once? |
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| 18:47 | oleonard | khall? ^^ |
| 18:48 | khall | oleonard I'm afraid not |
| 18:48 | a batch tool would be nice though | |
| 18:48 | oleonard | Okay I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing it |
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| 19:52 | * oleonard | learns about the UseCashRegisters preference |
| 19:52 | cait | how is it? |
| 19:53 | oleonard | We're still getting to know each other |
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| 20:00 | oleonard | See y'all tomorrow! |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | oh bugger he left 4 mins ago. |
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| 20:31 | caroline_catlady | what does making a cash register "default" do? |
| 20:31 | I added several cash registers to the same library and made one of them default, but when I go to pay a fee, it's the first alphabetically that is selected by default | |
| 20:32 | not sure what else 'Make default' could mean | |
| 20:33 | oh nevermind, I hadn't saved, hehe | |
| 20:40 | ashimema[m] | Hehe |
| 20:40 | Did I not add documentation for cash registers yet..? | |
| 20:42 | Oleonard, there's a team by piece missing from the cash registers stuff.. I'm looking to add a follow-up bug ton over it. It works better if you define a payment_type with the code 'CASH'.. seems it got lost during rebases.. | |
| 20:43 | Just thought I'de give you the heads uo | |
| 20:43 | caroline_catlady | I didn't see it... |
| 20:44 | I hope I didn't just do this in double | |
| 20:45 | ashimema[m] | Not surprised if it's missed it.. |
| 20:45 | I'm behind on my own documentation.. | |
| 20:45 | * ashimema[m] | is bad at following his own rules.. |
| 20:45 | ashimema[m] | Thanks Caroline 😀 |
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| 21:00 | caroline_catlady | Do we have strong opinions about the permissions being all divided up in sub sections? https://koha-community.org/man[…]rmissions-defined |
| 21:01 | Would it make it too long if we did just one long subsection with all the permissions? | |
| 21:01 | cait? | |
| 21:01 | wahanui | i think cait is qa manager |
| 21:01 | caroline_catlady | I think you're right wahanui |
| 21:04 | hayley | hehe |
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| 21:17 | cait | huh? :) |
| 21:17 | no ;) | |
| 21:17 | maybe even a table? | |
| 21:17 | could make it shorter | |
| 21:19 | caroline_catlady | tables are hard to manage in rst i find |
| 21:20 | unless I'm just not doing it right | |
| 21:20 | cait | no you are probably right |
| 21:46 | ashimema[m] | https://thomas-cokelaer.info/t[…]v-table-directive |
| 21:46 | Csv-table looks fairly simple? | |
| 21:50 | caroline_catlady | oh cool! looks much easier! |
| 21:50 | I'm used to the ones that look like sql | |
| 21:50 | if you write something longer, you have to change all the other lines... ugh | |
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| 22:37 | tcohen | hi there |
| 22:42 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 22:42 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
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| 22:45 | * cait | waves |
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