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| 07:39 | fridolin | hi there |
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| 07:52 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 08:01 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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| 08:05 | sophie_m | Hello #koha and happy new year !!! |
| 08:11 | * magnuse | waves |
| 08:11 | magnuse | happy new year sophie_m |
| 08:12 | sophie_m | thanks magnuse, all the best for you and your family :) |
| 08:12 | magnuse | merci boucoup and the same to you! |
| 08:19 | sophie_m | 8-) |
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| 09:11 | dersmon | hi * |
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| 09:24 | dersmon | is it possible to include all authority data in my normal catalogue searches? |
| 09:25 | or do i have to first search name variants in the authorities, and then navigate to bibliographic records from there? | |
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| 10:08 | Bruck | @inlibro Hi, just wanted to check if this chat room is working as i do not see any activities |
| 10:08 | huginn` | Bruck: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 10:08 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn`. |
| 10:13 | eythian | @later tell cait happy new year :) |
| 10:13 | huginn` | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:15 | Bruck | thanks huginn |
| 10:27 | eythian | Bruck: huginn` is a robot, the channel is usually active but Monday morning (my time at least) probably isn't the busiest. |
| 10:28 | Bruck | thanks |
| 10:30 | I have just recently upgraded to 17.05 from 16.05 and when I try to edit items on Koha, it throws the following error "Can't call method "branchname" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1627". I search the archive online saw the advice to update the two fields<https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pub[…]ember/048966.html> (UPDATE items SET homebranch='LIB', holdingbranch='LIB'). I have done that and did the | |
| 10:30 | . But, that does not seem to have helped. Please advise. | |
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| 11:38 | * cait | waves |
| 11:42 | cait | hm I get a mean error trying to access /cgi-bin/koha/reserve/request.pl?biblionumber=1 |
| 11:42 | someone else too? | |
| 11:47 | eythian | how mean? Like, just a bit irritated or properly aggressive? |
| 11:49 | cait | properly 'holds are broken' |
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| 11:49 | cait | bug 24350 |
| 11:49 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24350 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Can't place holds |
| 11:49 | cait | tcohen: ^ |
| 11:53 | eythian: got oyur later, thx :) | |
| 11:53 | are you at work today? public holiday here, but only in 3 states | |
| 11:55 | eythian | I am, not a holiday here. NL is very stingy about holidays |
| 11:57 | cait | hope a quiet day at least |
| 11:58 | eythian | so far, I'm mostly waiting for someone else to show up so I can go over something I want to do with him. |
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| 12:07 | * cait | is time travelling today |
| 12:07 | cait | looking at bugs filed in 2014 on bugzilla |
| 12:15 | eythian | oh bother, you've just reminded me that there was a new Doctor Who episode last night that I forgot to download. |
| 12:15 | cait | heh |
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| 12:29 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:29 | cait | "I would love to see holds updated to act kind of like the Netflix DVD queue system." |
| 12:29 | that was pre-streaming... wasn't it? | |
| 12:29 | hi oleonard :) | |
| 12:29 | sorry to make so much bug noise - did you work saturday? | |
| 12:30 | eythian | cait: yeah, netflix started off doing DVD posting |
| 12:30 | oleonard | cait: No at work, just Koha'ing. |
| 12:30 | eythian | I miss having a service like that, the range of options was so much larger than streaming |
| 12:30 | cait | oleonard: and i thought htat was only me :) |
| 12:31 | eythian: on the plus side... i don't think the dvd posting was ever available in germany :) | |
| 12:32 | oleonard | cait: And I will never complain about bug noise, especially from you! |
| 12:32 | cait | aaw :) |
| 12:32 | eythian | cait: it wasn't in NZ either, but we had a company that did the same thing, I only got rid of it in 2015 when I moved countries. |
| 12:33 | looks like it shut down in 2017 anyway. | |
| 12:33 | cait | interesting, i don't think there is a German equivalent - there used to be 'shops' for renting... but obviously not that many around any more |
| 12:33 | eythian | yeah, we had those too of course. But the postal thing was more convenient. |
| 12:33 | and cheaper | |
| 12:36 | I think wellington might still have a video (as in VHS) rental shop. | |
| 12:38 | ah, no, seems that their website doesn't talk about VHS so much so either that's changed or I remember wrong. | |
| 12:38 | cait | i guess getting a recorder this years is oto hard |
| 12:39 | oleonard | We still have one or two library branches that still carry VHS tapes because their service population hasn't been able to upgrade |
| 12:39 | cait | interesting |
| 12:39 | so maybe you can still easily get old ones cheap? our broke down at some point and that was the end to all the films my mum recorded | |
| 12:40 | oleonard | :( |
| 12:40 | eythian | I imagine they're still readily findable. |
| 12:40 | oleonard | I still have a few VHS tapes that I need to send away to get digitized while I still can |
| 12:40 | cait | possibly |
| 12:41 | eythian | it'd be worth digitising. Then extracting things like adverts and uploading to Internet Archive. |
| 12:43 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:44 | oleonard | Hi tcohen |
| 12:45 | cait | morning tcohen |
| 12:46 | anyone for bug 24351? not sure if bug or installation error | |
| 12:46 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24351 major, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , During Installation, connection to remote mysql server fails |
| 12:48 | oleonard | cait: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15783148764095 |
| 12:48 | cait | ooooh shiny |
| 12:49 | oleonard | What do you think about that link text? It is correct/clear? |
| 12:49 | cait | it would only show if you have used the link from acq, right? |
| 12:49 | oleonard | Yes |
| 12:50 | I was wondering whether it needed more information like basket name and vendor | |
| 12:50 | cait | basket names are often not so helpful i think |
| 12:51 | people never know what to enter there, often just do today#s date | |
| 12:51 | oleonard | I'm glad to hear it's not just me! |
| 12:51 | cait | i was thinking maybe basketnumber, but the short text might just work best |
| 12:51 | i have a jquery snippet somewhere to auto-enter the date | |
| 12:51 | some want that | |
| 12:51 | just so there is... something | |
| 12:59 | oleonard | Thanks for filing But 24350 cait. I hesitated because I thought it might be just me. |
| 12:59 | cait | bug 24350 |
| 12:59 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24350 blocker, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Can't place holds |
| 12:59 | cait | ah, I can no longer be embarassed |
| 13:00 | i have probably filed a ton of invalid bugs over time... but I'd rather see people close it than it being not fixed | |
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| 13:12 | cait | november 2014... ah... |
| 13:15 | oleonard | The good ol' days. |
| 13:25 | cait | heh kind of |
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| 13:26 | cait | hm i wonder how 13390 could happen |
| 13:26 | bug 13390 | |
| 13:26 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13390 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , authority overlay overwrites bib links |
| 13:32 | cait | is bug 13483 a koha or a sysadmin issue? |
| 13:32 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13483 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , If unconfigured nullmailer, huge log size and make host run out of space |
| 13:40 | magnuse | good question |
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| 13:41 | magnuse | i think you have to enable email for that problem to occur, so if you do that without configuring email on the server it is probably a sysadmin issue? |
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| 13:49 | oleonard | cait: Do you think Bug 24347 should eliminate the existing "From an existing record" search in acquisitions? |
| 13:49 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24347 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add a 'search to order' option similar to 'search to hold' |
| 13:50 | cait | hm good question |
| 13:51 | I was thinking the other day that our long link list of options doesn't have a great usability | |
| 13:51 | maybe some formatting already could help there... (line height etc.) | |
| 13:51 | oleonard | Agreed |
| 13:51 | cait | my feeling is it could replace it middle term |
| 13:52 | I lean towards yes | |
| 13:52 | but probably good to get some acq people's opinions | |
| 13:58 | oleonard | cait: Two versions I've tried: Adding it as an 'advanced search' option, and completely replacing the old version. https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15783190632296 |
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| 13:59 | caroline_catlady | happy new year everyone! |
| 13:59 | oleonard | Hi caroline_catlady |
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| 14:02 | cait | caroline_catlady: happy nw year :) |
| 14:02 | caroline_catlady: do you want to be our second acq opinion? | |
| 14:02 | (looking at pretty pictures from owen) | |
| 14:02 | caroline_catlady | hum. sure? |
| 14:03 | oleonard | caroline_catlady: We're talking about Bug 24347 |
| 14:03 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24347 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add a 'search to order' option similar to 'search to hold' |
| 14:03 | cait | and how it should look like in the aquisition module |
| 14:03 | oleonard | https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15783148764095 |
| 14:03 | Two versions I've tried: Adding it as an 'advanced search' option, and completely replacing the old version. https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15783190632296 | |
| 14:04 | cait | oleonard: i am undecided... i think i tend a bit to the second... but wonder if we should not make this all nicer |
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| 14:04 | cait | why do we have the From everywhere... |
| 14:04 | i mean there is an awful lot of text | |
| 14:04 | it could just be "Use existing record" | |
| 14:04 | caroline_catlady | I think it's just to complete the sentence Add order to basket ... |
| 14:04 | cait | or even... Existing record |
| 14:05 | i know | |
| 14:05 | but it feels clunky | |
| 14:05 | it's something you will use often and the amount of text makes it hard to spot what you are looking for | |
| 14:05 | and people never understad "from a new (empty) record" in my training | |
| 14:05 | caroline_catlady | I don't know, my eye just skips the first word |
| 14:05 | cait | create an acq record or similar might be better |
| 14:06 | or just ' New record' | |
| 14:06 | because what's an empty record? | |
| 14:06 | and noone undertands the "external source" either | |
| 14:07 | why do we not say SRU/Z3950 like in cataloguing? | |
| 14:07 | sorry, that's philosophical, but i feel a revamp might be nice at some point :) | |
| 14:07 | scope creeping for this bug for sure | |
| 14:07 | oleonard | Yeah I feel like y'all aren't talking about me anymore and I can't handle it. |
| 14:08 | eythian | oleonard: it's OK, there's still the private #all-about-oleopard channel, it's pretty active |
| 14:08 | caroline_catlady | I agree for the external source... it's really not clear |
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| 14:12 | cait | caroline_catlady: which option do you like better from oleonard's screnshot? |
| 14:13 | caroline_catlady | I've only gotten one option I think? |
| 14:13 | Oh ok, no I get it | |
| 14:14 | I thought it was a comparison between old and new | |
| 14:14 | Where does it go when we click on the link in the second option? | |
| 14:15 | cait | i think advanced search and then https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15783148764095 |
| 14:17 | caroline_catlady | I think I like the second one better... It's one more click, but it's more consistent with the other choices AND with the regular search results |
| 14:18 | cait | hm for the click more |
| 14:18 | i wonder if we could have a simple search form | |
| 14:18 | but instead of going ot the search result list in acq like it does now | |
| 14:18 | it could go ot the normal result list | |
| 14:18 | withthe new add order links | |
| 14:19 | so you'd have bestof both worlds... simple and advanced search | |
| 14:19 | but we get rid of the not so great search result list in acq | |
| 14:19 | and we enable advanced searching | |
| 14:19 | caroline_catlady | it's a good compromise I think |
| 14:20 | cait | so that would be option 1, but with a change to the search field |
| 14:20 | oleonard: would that be doable? | |
| 14:20 | and btw... big thanks for looking into this at all! | |
| 14:21 | caroline_catlady | oleonard++ |
| 14:21 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 14:25 | * cait | hopes my rant didn't scare him off |
| 14:28 | cait | caroline_catlady: still thinking about your scarf - pretty color and pattern :) |
| 14:30 | caroline_catlady | the blue one? |
| 14:31 | Still haven't given it to my mom... :( I hhaven't seen her since christmas | |
| 14:31 | The pattern is https://www.ravelry.com/patter[…]rary/silverleaf-2 | |
| 14:33 | cait | i really need to update my ravelry |
| 14:33 | just frogged my last finished project (didn#t fit) | |
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| 14:39 | oleonard | I was distracted by IRL humans but have not been scared off |
| 14:41 | cait | real humans! |
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| 15:19 | oleonard | Bug 24347 ready to test |
| 15:19 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24347 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add a 'search to order' option similar to 'search to hold' |
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| 15:25 | oleonard | https://bywatersolutions.com/e[…]pac-customization |
| 15:25 | If y'all like that check out Bug 22880! | |
| 15:25 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22880 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert opacheader system preference to news block |
| 15:25 | cait | :) |
| 15:25 | * oleonard | dusts the cobwebs off of it |
| 15:25 | cait | i will finish my time travelling at some point and get back to those... but finding bugs to close is so... satisfying |
| 15:26 | addictive | |
| 15:28 | * oleonard | gets cait a 10-gallon hat and lariat for bug-wrangling |
| 15:30 | cait | i have no idea what that is |
| 15:31 | oh, like a cowgirl? | |
| 15:31 | oleonard | Yes |
| 15:36 | cait | i can live with that |
| 15:36 | although most hats look silly on me :) | |
| 15:38 | oleonard | Most hats look silly on most people |
| 15:39 | cait | true |
| 15:45 | oleonard | tcohen still around? |
| 15:45 | vfernandes | oleonard: which systempreferences will be converted to news block? opaccredits, opacheader, opacmainuserblock? |
| 15:45 | oleonard | vfernandes: Yes, and opacnav, opacnavbottom, any OPAC pref which is designed to accept HTML content |
| 15:50 | vfernandes | that's good because it allows to have different content by language (currently we do the content control with JS) |
| 15:50 | the tool will be renamed? | |
| 15:51 | oleonard | vfernandes: It should be but it hasn't been discussed |
| 15:56 | vfernandes | ok :) maybe the intranetmainuserblock should also be converted to news block |
| 15:57 | oleonard | vfernandes: The goal is to convert anything like that. I'm waiting for Bug 22880 to get tested before I submit more patches (several of which are ready to go) |
| 15:57 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22880 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert opacheader system preference to news block |
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| 16:06 | reiveune | bye |
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| 19:55 | oleonard | Hi aleisha |
| 19:55 | * cait | waves |
| 19:56 | aleisha | hi oleonard |
| 19:56 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 20:00 | oleonard | And bye again |
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| 20:34 | cait | @later tell ashimema we did the post-release email thing |
| 20:34 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:34 | cait | @later tell ashimema i meant the post-release bug cleanup thing |
| 20:34 | huginn` | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 20:40 | cait | hi andreashm - still keeping odd hours? :) |
| 20:40 | andreashm | hey cait |
| 20:40 | always. | |
| 20:40 | =) | |
| 20:41 | don't really start working until tomorrow though, so mostly lurking. | |
| 20:55 | hayley | hi cait, are you able to make accounts on koha.git-community.org? I am trying to post the release notes for the most recent 18.11 release :) |
| 20:55 | rangi | koha-community.org that is ;) |
| 20:55 | hayley | oh shoot thank you rangi :) |
| 20:55 | git on the brain | |
| 20:56 | cait | i can check |
| 20:56 | give me a moment | |
| 20:57 | I've never done it before | |
| 20:58 | hayley | thank you! |
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| 21:10 | caroline_catlady | when using OverduesBlockCirc set at "Block" shouldn't we mask the checkout box? Right now, we can scan the barcode, and only after we've scanned it does it say that the patron is not allowed to checkout |
| 21:11 | cait | it sounds like we should block it |
| 21:11 | caroline_catlady | I think it's masked when we use NoIssuesCharge |
| 21:13 | cait | ifound some bugs about noissuecharge too |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | does anyone know, when elastic is enabled, do we use it's internal highlighting? |
| 21:16 | instead of the JS one that is a little naff? | |
| 21:16 | hayley, YES, I can do that | |
| 21:16 | (rangi can too I think) | |
| 21:17 | hayley | oh thanks wizzyrea, cait has given it a go and I haven't received an email yet, woul;d you mind checking if everything looks right? :) |
| 21:17 | cait | wizzyrea: i used hmapley as a username |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | cool I can check on it. I usually just assign a password and don't worry about the email part |
| 21:17 | cait | dont know for sure about elastic, ut i haven't seen it mentioned |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | ^ if we don't use it, we probably should |
| 21:18 | cait | i didn't see an option for that |
| 21:18 | wizzyrea | it'd be so much better than the JS one I think |
| 21:23 | hayley what's your email address? | |
| 21:23 | hayley | message it to you :) |
| 21:28 | wizzyrea | hayley++ |
| 21:29 | hayley | thanks wizzyrea :) |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | np :) |
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| 21:52 | caroline_catlady | my freshly pulled master has a weird error when trying to view a record, but ONLY if TagsEnabled is on... ?? Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.26/DBI.pm line 2081. |
| 21:52 | anybody else have this problem? eric found the Tags clue in irc logs from last May | |
| 21:53 | cait | I can test it |
| 21:53 | opac or staff? | |
| 21:53 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #82: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D9/82/ |
| 21:53 | caroline_catlady | both |
| 21:54 | cait | looks ok for me |
| 21:54 | caroline_catlady | since it's in /usr/lib/ I thought maybe it was a perl error rather than a Koha error |
| 21:55 | cait | i think it's a perl module used by koha |
| 21:55 | does the record have tags defined? | |
| 21:55 | caroline_catlady | no |
| 21:56 | all my tags tables are empty | |
| 21:56 | cait | hm same here |
| 21:56 | not sure | |
| 21:56 | but holds are actually broken if you run into that next | |
| 21:56 | hope they are going to fix it tomorrow | |
| 21:56 | caroline_catlady | lol ok! good to know! |
| 21:57 | I was just trying to reproduce my OverdueBlocks Circ thing... which I was working on because of a question from a client... rabbit holes | |
| 21:57 | cait | yeah, sometimes everything you touch breaks |
| 21:57 | it's a special skill | |
| 22:00 | caroline_catlady | go to know that I'm "special" hehe! |
| 22:01 | cait | it means you are a good tester :) |
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| 22:16 | cait | good night all |
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| 22:27 | tcohen | hi |
| 22:29 | rangi | hi tcohen |
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| 22:43 | tcohen | night all |
| 22:49 | rangi | cya tcohen |
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