IRC log for #koha, 2019-12-20

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00:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #217: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/217/
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00:26 oleonard Anyone around who knows API stuff?
00:27 rangi sorta
00:27 oleonard Hi rangi
00:28 I'm confused because I was working with the patrons API earlier today and it was working, moved to a different computer and checked out the same branch...not working
00:28 I'm submitting a request like /api/v1/patrons/55763
00:28 rangi right
00:28 a get one eh?
00:28 oleonard And getting an error, "Expected string - got null"
00:28 Yes, get
00:29 rangi hmmm
00:29 that is odd
00:29 you get same message whatever patron number you use?
00:29 oleonard I thought maybe the error message would ring a bell with someone
00:29 Yes
00:30 rangi and nothing in the plack-error.log ?
00:31 oleonard OpenAPI >>> GET api/v1/patrons/5636 [{"message":"Expected string - got null.","path":"\/updated_on"}]
00:33 rangi my hunch is it is a db thing
00:34 since that could be the thing different between computers
00:34 when branch the same
00:34 can you check your borrowers table
00:36 updated_on
00:36 is what we are looking for, maybe it isnt there?
00:39 oleonard Hm... column is there, and it does contain a null value for the patron I'm testing with. But why should that matter?
00:39 rangi i dont think it should
00:39 oleonard Ha, but updating the patron record makes the error go away
00:39 rangi i was just going on the error message (cos it said updated_on)
00:39 yeah
00:39 that seems a bug
00:40 the api should handle a null updated_on
00:40 oleonard I'm getting called away, so I'll have to pick it up later. Thanks rangi!
00:40 rangi no worries
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01:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #218: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/218/
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01:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #216: SUCCESS in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D8/216/
01:07 hayley https://translate.koha-community.org/ is down...
01:08 rangi ah yep
01:15 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #208: SUCCESS in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.11_U18/208/
01:37 Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #217: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D8/217/
01:40 Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #219: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/219/
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01:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #209: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.11_U18/209/
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02:21 hayley alexbuckley they just did the irc config thing
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07:29 magnuse \o/
07:29 🎅
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07:44 reiveune hello
07:45 fridolin Bug 24282
07:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24282 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , SCSS conversion broke style in search results item status
07:45 fridolin i whant my CSS back \o/
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07:57 alex_a Bonjour
08:05 magnuse oops https://translate.koha-community.org/ is down, at least for me
08:11 paxed yup, 503
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08:53 ashimema[m] anyone here played much with the pootle software?
08:53 * ashimema[m] is trying to work out how to restart it
08:55 cait sorry, never on server side
08:57 ashimema[m] right..
08:57 does that look better
08:57 I just restarted apache and preyed
08:58 seems to have done the trick
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09:06 magnuse works for me
09:06 ashimema++
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09:24 cait ashimema[m]++
09:24 ashimema++
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10:32 kidclamp marcelr++
10:34 cait marcelr
10:34 marcelr++
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10:36 * kohaputti wishes there would be shadow elasticsearch index
10:36 cait hm wondering if i have seen a bgu for that
10:37 shadow = switch one reindexing is done?
10:38 kidclamp https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=18948
10:38 huginn Bug 18948: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Reindexing should use aliases to avoid down time
10:39 kidclamp it needs some work, should be optional - also would be nice to have mapping chnges not apply until one beings a reindex
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10:40 ashimema[m] +1
10:41 cait kidclamp: might hinder testing...?
10:42 dersmon hi
10:42 wahanui hey, dersmon
10:42 cait hi dersmon
10:44 dersmon i got another perl question :D
10:44 ashimema[m] fire away
10:45 dersmon so i am trying to parse the xml in "more_subfields_xml" for items, in order to export subfield (uppercase!) $D
10:45 so i adjusted the detail.pl
10:45 my $dom = XML::LibXML->load_xml(string => $item->{more_subfields_xml});
10:45 ashimema[m] mm
10:46 dersmon $item->{parsed_more_subfields_xml} = scalar $dom->findnodes('//subfield[code="D"]/text()');
10:46 kidclamp hmm cait?
10:46 wahanui hmmm... cait is really good at running into things
10:46 dersmon ah wait, the scalar part was just for testing right now
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10:48 dersmon $item->{parsed_more_subfields_xml} = $dom->findnodes('//subfield[@code="D"]/text()');
10:49 with this code i get no error, but also no output in my tt file:
10:49 <td><pre>[% item.parsed_more_subfields_xml | html %]</pre></td>
10:50 cait wahanui: the blue spots on my legs can vrify that...
10:50 wahanui cait: sorry...
10:51 cait thx, wahanui
10:51 wahanui cait: sorry...
10:51 ashimema[m] rmaints?
10:51 wahanui rmaints is talljoy, lucas, hayley
10:51 ashimema[m] rm?
10:51 cait kidclamp: hm?
10:51 kidclamp you said "might hinder testing"
10:51 ashimema[m] ashimema?
10:51 wahanui you are literally just writing up the release anouncement ;)
10:52 dersmon is the general idea of parsing the xml correct? what am i missing?
10:53 cait ah, if you need to reindex, depending on how long it takes... sometims you might just want to update one recod snd see if your change was good before you do that (was the thought)
10:54 ashimema[m] I think findnodes returns an arrayref dersmon, so you'll need to iterate through it for display I think
10:55 kidclamp that would be another enh probably - you can index a single record, but not while preserving your old index - if the indexer let you optionall speciy the index you  could index into a new one and then inspect it
10:55 * kidclamp stop
10:55 kidclamp yes, cait, that would eb cool
10:55 :-)
10:55 cait kidclamp: are we mixing the shadow and other topic now?
10:56 or I just got confused :)
10:56 right now ... change zebra index... resave a record - check it#s findable... reindex for me
10:58 kidclamp change zebra index? I may not be undestanding the shadow bit
10:58 wahanui kidclamp: that doesn't look right
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10:59 cait kidclamp: ok, i think we are talking different things :)
11:00 kidclamp I haven't had coffee yet, just ignore me
11:00 cait++
11:00 ashimema[m] lol
11:00 cait nah, i am almost falling asleep here too - already had coffee and now black tea
11:00 dersmon iterating does not yield output either
11:00 cait was referring to that bit: " also would be nice to have mapping chnges not apply until one beings a reindex"
11:00 dersmon changed to this:
11:00 cait buti might be misunderstanding your intention
11:00 dersmon <td>   [% FOREACH subfield IN item.parsed_more_subfields_xml %]    <pre>[% subfield | html %]</pre>  [% END %]   </td>
11:02 ashimema[m] hmm
11:05 dersmon [% IF item.parsed_more_subfields_xml %] also evaluates to false
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11:11 dersmon ah, maybe this has to do with namespaces
11:13 cait have you checked there is a parsed_more_subfields_xml
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11:16 cait dersmon: I think you can use Dumper in comination to see the structure of your variables
11:17 dersmon for testing, i set parsed_more_subfields_xml to a static string, which worked
11:17 cait foudn this in my notees:
11:17 [% USE Dumper %] <!- [% Dumper.dump(item) %] -->
11:18 i know you can dump all variables by pref... but it#s easy to get lost there
11:23 dersmon it was the namespace
11:23 so
11:24 this is my perl code now:
11:24 ashimema[m] well done :)
11:24 dersmon my $dom = XML::LibXML->load_xml(string => $item->{more_subfields_xml});
11:24 my $xpc = XML::LibXML::XPathContext->new($dom);
11:24 $xpc->registerNs('marc', 'http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim');
11:24 $item->{parsed_more_subfields_xml} = $xpc->find('//marc:subfield[@code="D"]/text()');
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11:34 ashimema[m] koha sites aren't having a good day today
11:34 translate this morning
11:35 and now the wiki seems to be down
11:35 gmcharlt: any chance you could poke the wiki.. seems to be offline
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11:42 paul_p hello all. Where did I saw a discussion about replacing IRC ? was it previous general meeting ?
11:43 ashimema[m] it was indeed
11:43 though it wasn't so much replaceing IRC as trying out rocket.chat and briding IRC so we don't loose what infrastrcuture we have here
11:44 I've got a rocket.chat server up and running but need to work out the bridging
11:46 ooh.. wiki is back :)
11:47 paul_p ashimema[m] have you seen https://discourse.mozilla.org/[…]he-decision/50620 ? can it be an option for us ?
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11:54 ashimema[m] Riot and Matric
11:54 * Riot and Matrix
11:54 well, I've been using Riot for ages as my IRC client
11:55 and my feeling recently has been that it's reliability has been getting worse and worse
11:55 ByWater also tried it and ended up with Slack because of reliability and feature issues too..
11:55 it's PM handling with IRC isn't great either
11:56 don't get me wrong.. I'd love to see it suceed but I'm not sure if really wins us a great deal in terms of usability
11:57 having said that.. I've never used it as a replacement for IRC.. more a gateway to it
11:57 so I'm likely not getting most of the features it offers as I'm stuck at the lowest common denominator of IRC
11:58 tuxayo uses matrix/riot to connect to irc btw.. he might be able to help inform a decision there
11:58 though he's not at biblibre for much longer is he
11:59 also.. modular.im isn't cheap.. we'd be looking at the $73.50USD hosting at the very least I reckon
12:10 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24169: Add a comment to clarify the use of the dataTable class <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86ce10aee9eb6256d>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24268: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9dc40f37fcf875416>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24268: Break assignment and warn into separate actions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1a363f231704304ed>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24232: Hide the "Delete biblio" if permission edit_catalogue not set <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f2ff2f8d9c17fa60b>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24215: Do not always display an empty entry <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a5e548363eaea009b>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24232: Fix required permissions in DELETE /biblios/:biblio_id <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4334cf9f6de616f02>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24232: Regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]65a7f87051778e0a0>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24169: Advanced editor: icons/buttons for sorting the search results are missing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2e33c415d00560c59>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24137: Same fixes for *_local.sql files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1afa70f64669f48fb>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24215: Correct display of guarantor relationship errors <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d92de3a6fcdf61c00>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24137: Manual replacement for hidden <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6ec95f208c5dc0e43>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24137: Fix biblio frameworks install for ru-Ru and uk-UA (repeatable) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9dee5875b75b1b872>
12:10 News from kohagit: Bug 24137: Fix biblio frameworks install for ru-Ru and uk-UA (mandatory) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb581a6b2b8f70675>
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12:38 magnuse ashimema[m]: my rocket client has a warning that irc bridging/federation should not be used in production yet...
12:46 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #566: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/566/
12:48 cait caroline_catlady: is bug 24284 a thing in french as well?
12:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24284 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Canelling of holds and order should allow for different translation then cancel as options in dialogs
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12:51 tuxayo[m] > tuxayo uses matrix/riot to connect to irc btw.. he might be able to help inform a decision there
12:51 And to receive email notifications when mentioned ;)
12:51 ashimema[m] indeed magnuse.. I'm looking in to using matterbridge
12:51 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #14: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]D9_MDB_Latest/14/
13:01 magnuse ashimema[m]: ah, gotcha
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13:10 tuxayo[m] ashimema:
13:10 > well, I've been using Riot for ages as my IRC client
13:10 > and my feeling recently has been that it's reliability has been getting worse and worse
13:10 It seems that most of the problems are due to matrix.org being too popular compared to it's resources. I began to try another instance (which doesn't have guest login so it's unfit for us) and there was a noticeable difference.
13:10 Same for a friend that has a self hosted instance.
13:11 > it's PM handling with IRC isn't great either
13:11 Do you mean the the bridge was blocking PMs from unauthenticated users?
13:12 ashimema[m] I find that it often looses track of who I've PM'd in the past and starts up a new PM for it
13:12 and as such the history is really hard to follow
13:17 tuxayo[m] <ashimema[m] "I find that it often looses trac"> Oh right, that's weird. I happens to me also with PM from IRC
13:17 ashimema[m] yeah.. it's certainly an IRC bridge thing
13:19 tuxayo[m] About performance, I just redid some test and the official instance matrix.org has 3 times more latency than the two other instances that I mentioned.
13:19 https://maubot.xyz/_matrix/mau[…]maunium.net/stats
13:19 (see the median for matrix, tedomum.net and aime.lesmatric.es)
13:19 ashimema[m] I've not taken the leap to another home server yet...
13:20 any recommendations.. i've not spotted a public one with oftc bridged
13:20 tuxayo[m] > yeah.. it's certainly an IRC bridge thing
13:20 Which I have also with pure IRC when people change their nick or have issue that cause them having trailing underscore in their nick ^^"
13:22 ashimema: I haven't yet continued my investigation for a public server with guest login.
13:22 i'll ask in the room that talks about bridges if there is another one that bridges OFTC
13:25 ashimema[m] thanks :)
13:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1035: SUCCESS in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1035/
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13:38 eythian ashimema[m]: you may find this interesting: https://discourse.mozilla.org/[…]he-decision/50620
13:44 ashimema[m] lol.. you are the third person to point me at that article today eythian ;)
13:47 eythian ashimema[m]: cool cool, but have you seen https://discourse.mozilla.org/[…]he-decision/50620 ?
13:49 magnuse https://discourse.mozilla.org/[…]he-decision/50620 might be worth a look, though
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14:00 magnuse looking at the log entries for renewals. would automated renewals stand out there, or would they look the same as other renewals done from the OPAC?
14:01 ah yes, at least the time sets them apart
14:02 caroline_catlady good morning!
14:04 cait re bug 24284, do you mean if the verb is different in french too?
14:04 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24284 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Cancelling of holds and orders should allow for different translation than cancel as options in dialogs
14:04 caroline_catlady I don't think so, I'd have to see an example
14:04 But now you can add context, so you can have different translations
14:05 can you add the pages where the verb cancel shows up?
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14:18 rkrimme1 Hi, any Shibboleth users here? In my current configuration Koha loses its shibboleth cookies directly after the SAML POST and the redirect to <instancename>.koha.tld/index.html
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14:24 cait caroline_catlady: not right now, but might tackle it later - using your bug as an example
14:24 caroline_catlady: it's a recurring renaming request in our tickets
14:25 caroline_catlady I can imagine, the "order" bugged me so much, so glad it's done
14:25 I used it as a joke in my training sessions :)
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14:36 magnuse have fun #koha, see you in 2020!
14:43 ashimema[m] have a good xmas magnuse
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15:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D8 build #10: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_D8/10/
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15:39 rkrimme1 found it, had to use domain cookies for our setup
15:39 and i learned alot about kohas shib implementation
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16:02 reiveune bye
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16:06 ashimema[m] hope it didn't put you off too much learning about Koha's shib rkrimme1
16:06 that area is due somewhat of a rework/overhaul
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16:20 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
16:20 wahanui Congratulations!
16:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.11_D9 build #11: FIXED in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.11_D9/11/
16:20 talljoy 19.11 chugging right along!
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16:37 caroline_catlady ashimema[m]: do you prefer that the devs write the release notes or can I do it if I'm documenting the feature in the manual?
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16:39 caroline_catlady actually, my example isn't a good one since I was going to do bug 15497 which is part of 19.11
16:39 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15497 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, RESOLVED FIXED, Limit item types by library
16:44 ashimema[m] feel free caroline_catlady
16:44 I don't mind wo writes them
16:45 caroline_catlady is it relevant to write release notes for past releases?
16:48 ashimema[m] hmm
16:48 depends
16:48 for a feature release we add all bugs between since the last feature release into the release notes
16:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #74: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D8/74/
16:49 ashimema[m] so.. anytihng that's in .01, 0.2, .03, .04, .05 and .06 of maint releases will also be listed in .00 of the next major release
16:49 so..
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16:49 ashimema[m] in those cases.. probably still worthwhile if you feel it was worthwhile in the first place
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17:15 Yippee, build fixed!
17:15 wahanui Congratulations!
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19:07 tcohen hi
19:09 caroline_catlady hi tcochen!
19:09 hi tcohen (sorry!)
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19:22 oleonard tcohen around?
19:23 tcohen I am
19:23 hi there
19:23 wahanui hola, tcohen
19:23 oleonard I had a weird thing happen yesterday when working on Bug 23501
19:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23501 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Drag-and-drop hold reordering in the staff client
19:24 oleonard Started getting an error when I checked it out on a different machine.
19:24 OpenAPI >>> GET api/v1/patrons/5636 [{"message":"Expected string - got null.","path":"\/updated_on"}]
19:25 Why would the API choke on a null value?
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19:33 oleonard tcohen: I'm also curious if you have any solutions for displaying dates correctly when they come from API data
19:34 tcohen oleonard: let me check the spec and if the updated_on field is nullable
19:34 about the dates, I haven't tried, but we need to do it in JS, generically
19:34 I'm sure JS date handling routines deal with the format correctly
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20:04 oleonard tcohen: I wonder if I didn't run into my API issue at work simply because my data had no null updated_on values??
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20:29 ashimema[m] Anyone got a nice, fairly simple, bug they'd like doing?  The eldest daughter has asked if I she can do another bug over the Xmas break and who am I to argue. 😀
20:29 Be nice to get the mentors tag back in use again
20:29 caroline_catlady I have a string one  bug 24291
20:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Explanation next to limit item types by library is confusing
20:30 caroline_catlady but maybe that's not what you're looking for
20:34 ashimema[m] That's a good one to get her started again. 😀
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