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12:33 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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12:44 | magnuse | hiya oleonard |
12:45 | oleonard | Hi magnuse |
12:45 | @wunder magnuse | |
12:45 | huginn | oleonard: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information. |
12:46 | magnuse | hehe, not a placename, yet |
12:46 | @wunder bodø, norway | |
12:46 | huginn | magnuse: Error: I could not find a valid location for: bodø, norway |
12:46 | magnuse | @wunder bodo, norway |
12:46 | huginn | magnuse: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information. |
12:46 | magnuse | @wunder Bodø |
12:46 | huginn | magnuse: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Bodø |
12:46 | oleonard | It's broken altogether. |
12:46 | magnuse | -3C, cloudy |
12:47 | 1cm fresh snow earlier today | |
12:47 | oleonard | 7C, rain here |
12:47 | magnuse | wow, big eruption in nz |
12:48 | oleonard | https://www.ohio.edu/webcam |
12:49 | Wow, I hadn't heard that | |
12:50 | magnuse | http://www.xn--bodhavn-s1a.no/webkamera/ |
12:51 | https://images.geonet.org.nz/e[…]-seismic-drum.png | |
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12:57 | tcohen | morning |
12:58 | @wunder cordoba, argentina | |
12:58 | huginn | tcohen: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information. |
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13:14 | magnuse | hiya tcohen |
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13:35 | tcohen | hola magnuse |
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13:50 | eythian | magnuse: really, a fairly small eruption on the scale of such things. It just happened while there were people pretty much in the crater :/ |
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14:25 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24168: (bug 23116 follow-up) AllowHoldPolicyOverride allows a librarian to almost... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0414ee6add0d80c44> |
14:27 | magnuse | eythian: ah, ok |
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14:28 | magnuse | huh,why can i see an ill userflag in the db, but nothing about ill in the permissions ui? |
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14:36 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24136: Update sponsors for 19.11 cycle <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]74d41275701b818f7> |
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14:46 | magnuse | oleonard: do you think this is an acceptable way to use the number_box "widget" to display multiple links from a biblio to connected ILL requests? https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=96102 |
14:46 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 24126: Article requests tab appears twice on patron's checkout screen <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]311ec750d39298167> |
14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 23987: "return to cataloguing" if the record is deleted from bachMod-del <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9e3016f52fdf2d71a> | |
14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 23987: Use src=CATALOGUING for edition/deletion in batch from items table <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3561ddc9108ce138a> | |
14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24056: Capitalization: Cash Register ID on cash register management page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]51895fd42034d8c4c> | |
14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24053: Typo in FinePaymentAutoPopup description <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]015fd2443cbcc3df6> | |
14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24057: Hea is not an acronym <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0bb1156f0aa90c2b6> | |
14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 20948: Only display item-level hold info if first hold <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]597cb977766704e5b> | |
14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 20948: Simplify existing code <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]29c5e7a09a8f91641> | |
14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 24033: Fix column labelling on basket summary page (ecost) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]72ec5b3cabed5ff85> | |
14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 23246: (follow-up) Hardcoding tab position is not enough <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f5cc0c05aa133d879> | |
14:46 | News from kohagit: Bug 23246: Only jump into the 'images' tab HTML5MediaEnabled is set <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0686aabdce43f5e6> | |
14:46 | magnuse | bug 20799 |
14:46 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20799 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Add a link from biblio detail view to ILL request detail view, if a biblio has an ILL request |
14:47 | * oleonard | throws a rope to magnuse to keep him from getting swept away in huginn messages |
14:47 | oleonard | magnuse: I don't understand why there are 2 |
14:49 | Oh they each link to a separate request? | |
14:50 | magnuse | yes! |
14:50 | normally there will only be one, but there could perhaps be more, so i want to take care of that | |
14:50 | @quote get 123 | |
14:50 | huginn | magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
14:50 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
14:50 | oleonard | It would be nice if it could work like the holds link: It shows the count of ILL requests and clicking it shows the list of all ILL requests |
14:51 | magnuse | yeah, but today there is nowhere to link to display the ill requests connected to a biblio |
14:52 | wizzyrea | hi |
14:52 | wahanui | bonjour, wizzyrea |
14:52 | wizzyrea | "OkCupid stopped aging out employee passwords by policy a couple of years before NIST revised SP 800-63B. Instead, regular password audits are performed as a mitigating control. Employee password hashes for critical core resources are collected and thrown into a password cracking rig. Any passwords which are recovered are forced to be changed." |
14:52 | ^ it would be interesting to enforce this kind of a thing on Koha staff passwords | |
14:54 | magnuse | cool! |
14:55 | i think i would prioritize 2 factor auth, if i could, though | |
14:56 | wizzyrea | yeah same |
14:56 | * magnuse | wanders off to make fish soup |
14:56 | wizzyrea | I'm told that "in the real world" (don't get me started here...) library patrons can't deal with 2 factor |
14:56 | and there is at least one fair point there - that not everyone has a phone or a phone number | |
14:57 | or even internet access or an email account. | |
14:57 | magnuse | i was mainly thinking 2fa for staff |
14:57 | we ahould have had that like... yesterday :-) | |
14:57 | wizzyrea | oh hell yeah |
14:57 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 17831: DBRev 19.12.00.001 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]54041d7bd24e0e71e> |
14:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 24128: Add alias for biblionumber search <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f9e4296fab5d99a6f> | |
14:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 17831: Database update - Tidy up frameworks in existing installations <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a3216a554f196c5b9> | |
14:57 | News from kohagit: Bug 17831: Remove non-existig bibliosubject.subject mapping from frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]86ce3488dc9f44b9b> | |
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14:58 | wizzyrea | also fish soup yum |
14:58 | what kind of fish? | |
14:58 | caroline_catlady | hi all! |
14:58 | wizzyrea | hi caroline_catlady |
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14:59 | ashimema | the first few perl advent articles are about password strength checking |
14:59 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I'll bet it's a cool fish we can't get here |
14:59 | wizzyrea | it always is amirite |
14:59 | ashimema | interesitng read.. I was very tempted to throw a koha plugin together following them |
14:59 | wizzyrea | oh oh I have an article |
14:59 | sec | |
14:59 | https://www.google.com/url?q=h[…]2mDMFejy3CDvXLJ9g | |
15:00 | ashimema | as for 2fa.. I've been wanting to add it for staff client for ages.. but no-one has sponsored me to do it yet :( |
15:00 | wizzyrea | :( :( :( |
15:00 | ok does... does it just need to get done? | |
15:00 | ashimema | http://www.perladvent.org/2019/ |
15:00 | articles 1, 2 and 3 | |
15:00 | 1 = password strength, 2 = password pwned checking, 3 = 2fa | |
15:01 | all well worthwhile reads | |
15:01 | wizzyrea | *nod* I wish we had a strength checker but then again they also are kind of... depending on the checker they don't mean much |
15:01 | ashimema | totally |
15:03 | wizzyrea | I was just thinking about the pwnt checking |
15:03 | I think that's an awesome customer service | |
15:03 | that libraries should provide | |
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15:03 | ashimema | totally |
15:03 | wizzyrea | as in, your local library is letting you know that the password you use literally everywhere is on a list |
15:03 | ashimema | well.. i reckon with the plugin hook that magnus added o 19.11 we're not far off being able to add it via plugin |
15:04 | wizzyrea | that's a public service. I am both ashamed and grateful when I get an email from a company where I've forgotten about the account I have there emails me and is like "hey you, your password here is pwnt we disabled your account" |
15:04 | THANKING YOU. | |
15:04 | ashimema | maybe I'll do it as a lunch time project |
15:04 | wizzyrea | i will test it for you :) |
15:04 | ashimema | it's a great idea :) |
15:05 | oleonard | I will cheer everyone on |
15:05 | wizzyrea | :D |
15:05 | ashimema | http://www.perladvent.org/2019/2019-12-03.html makes 2fa look like childs play |
15:05 | maybe I'll do that for the staff client whilst I'm at it.. :) | |
15:06 | wizzyrea | again, I'll test that for you |
15:06 | I will be GLORIOUSLY HAPPY to test that | |
15:07 | ashimema | ohh.. school run |
15:07 | back in a bit. | |
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15:32 | qasim | why do I need to use port 8080 for a IP based installation? Can't I use port 80 directly, so if anyone that is trying to access the domain name (private network), just directly gets directed to the Koha page instead? |
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16:00 | liliputech_asu | qasim: if you use ip-based installation then you still get two different virtualhosts for OPAC and STAFF interface. however they both reply to any hostname requested, hence you got to differentiate the two interfaces by another mean, listening port for example, that is. |
16:00 | qasim | So I can set the user "INTRA" to port 80 and the OPAC to port 8080 and that should be fine? |
16:01 | liliputech_asu | qasim: you could do that :) |
16:01 | qasim | That's nice, thank you :) |
16:01 | liliputech_asu | u'r welkom, good luck with your installation! |
16:02 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1026: UNSTABLE in 54 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1026/ |
16:03 | qasim | One more question, after running `sudo koha-create --create-db library` no apache config files have been created. So when I try to run `sudo a2ensite library` it gives me an error `ERROR: Site library does not exist!`. Even though the db has been created successfully |
16:03 | liliputech_asu | speaking of "user" is a bit confusing in this context, I'd rather speak of "interfaces" (OPAC and STAFF) since some users could have access to both. |
16:03 | qasim | You are correct. |
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16:03 | liliputech_asu | qasim: let me check that script for u |
16:03 | qasim | There is a lot of new terminology for me in the library systems landscape, still trying to wrap my head around it |
16:04 | liliputech_asu | qasim: have some headache medicin ready at hand then :) |
16:04 | qasim | hahaha |
16:09 | liliputech_asu | qasim: I *guess* if you give --create-db option to koha-create, then it only creates the db. |
16:10 | qasim: what you could do to solve your issue : remove "library" instance then recreate with koha-create but without --create-db option | |
16:10 | qasim: since you didn't had access to your instance, I *guess* there is not much data in there yet. | |
16:12 | qasim | I will give this a try |
16:12 | Thank you for your help | |
16:13 | liliputech_asu | qasim: owf, u'r very welkom, I'll hang around for an hour or so if any help needed |
16:14 | qasim | Appreciate it Arthur :) I think I screwed something up. `shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory` I was doing the initial setup using the root user.. I should not have done that. |
16:14 | I was following a tutorial blindly | |
16:14 | I'll reset my VM and try again from scratch | |
16:21 | liliputech_asu | qasim: which tutorial did you followed? |
16:22 | wizzyrea | ooh |
16:22 | yeah don't follow a rando tutorial | |
16:22 | 1s we have a community one, it's the best one | |
16:22 | liliputech_asu | qasim: i'd say if you're using debian this one is reference : https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
16:23 | wizzyrea | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
16:23 | ^ this is the canonical install doc | |
16:23 | a+ liliputech_asu :D | |
16:23 | liliputech_asu | if ubuntu : https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
16:23 | :) | |
16:23 | wizzyrea | and just... just don't on centos |
16:23 | don't intentionally give yourself a headache | |
16:24 | liliputech_asu | wizzyrea: I think... there even used to be some BSD tutorials around here... foolish... :) |
16:24 | wizzyrea | omggggg |
16:25 | that's like taking off your shoe and beating your forehead with it, while it's covered in dog poo | |
16:25 | just why | |
16:25 | liliputech_asu | fun |
16:25 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #5: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]_D9_MDB_Latest/5/ |
16:25 | wizzyrea | you end up covered in poo, and you get it all over your office at the same time! |
16:26 | ashimema | lol |
16:26 | reiveune | bye |
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16:26 | wizzyrea | in 11 years, I've never been fast enough to tell that person by when they leave |
16:26 | bye* | |
16:27 | oleonard | wizzyrea: You'll have to program wahanui to do it for you |
16:32 | qasim | I made a mistaken in following this tutorial https://www.academia.edu/38039[…]l_in_Ubuntu_18.04 for the first time after always using koha-community tutorials which worked for me. Foolish of me |
16:33 | liliputech_asu | qasim -> https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
16:33 | qasim: however, you were still right, it's written in there that you should use --create-db option :) | |
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16:37 | qasim | <3 |
16:39 | liliputech_asu | ❤ |
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17:27 | liliputech_asu | evening koha :) |
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18:04 | tcohen | ashimema: |
18:04 | around? | |
18:04 | !bang | |
18:04 | AnnaBoten | There is no hunt right now! You can start a hunt with the 'start' command |
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19:30 | oleonard | Too many unfinished projects |
19:36 | wizzyrea | oh boy yeah. |
19:37 | oleonard | Doesn't help that I have a touch of the goldfish-brain |
19:57 | See y'all later | |
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21:12 | wizzyrea | @later tell eythian remember when you gave me that zine/comic on strace. I use that knowledge like every day now. |
21:12 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
21:12 | wizzyrea | @later tell eythian so thank you |
21:12 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
21:18 | corilynn | Bug 24196 makes me sad :( |
21:18 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24196 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Advanced editor - Save silently fails on session timeout |
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