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| 06:31 | cait | mtj hey :) |
| 06:32 | * ashimema | wonders if mtj is still here? |
| 06:32 | cait | good morning :) |
| 06:37 | * ashimema | sleepily waves |
| 06:37 | ashimema | Not feeling very motivated yet this morning. |
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| 06:38 | ashimema | Target number one for 20.05, let's get it running on Debian stable.. the tweet I just had to write is just embarrassing |
| 06:44 | cait | ashimema: waiting for packages? |
| 06:45 | oh | |
| 06:45 | found it | |
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| 06:49 | mtj | hi cait, ashimema |
| 06:49 | cait | hi :) |
| 06:49 | ashimema | How's it going mtj 😀 |
| 06:49 | mtj | pretty good, thanks |
| 06:51 | ashimema | If you do get a chance to take a look at packaging that would be awesome.. there's branches in the security repo for 3 releases.. not sure if wizzyrea got hers finished before Thanksgiving though |
| 06:51 | If not, no worries, I'll stall a little longer... Really struggling to get hold of drojf | |
| 06:53 | mtj | my afternoon got a bit sidetracked with wrist physio stuff today |
| 06:54 | ..but happy to finish packaging stuff off now | |
| 06:57 | will keep you posted ashimema | |
| 07:00 | ashimema | Thanks mtj, very much appreciated. |
| 07:03 | cait | mtj++ |
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| 07:21 | magnuse | mtj++ |
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| 07:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:43 | * ashimema | wonders if lars still lurks here |
| 07:50 | fridolin | black friday or wat ? |
| 07:50 | https://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/ | |
| 07:51 | https://demo.biblibre.com | |
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| 07:52 | alex_a | Bonjour |
| 07:52 | wahanui | bidet, alex_a |
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| 08:22 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 08:37 | ashimema | is it just me or is the wiki very slow today |
| 08:47 | marcelr | hi ashimema today releasing? |
| 08:47 | ashimema | I've been ready for 3 days |
| 08:47 | marcelr | waiting for packaging ? |
| 08:47 | ashimema | it's a security release so I've had to hold off whilst the packages are built... but it's been a challenge getting hold of the packaging people |
| 08:47 | hopfully mtj is on the case now | |
| 08:48 | though it's pretty late in his timezone now :( | |
| 08:48 | marcelr | this is becoming more an issue |
| 08:48 | ashimema | mmm, very much |
| 08:48 | this release has been painful | |
| 08:48 | not just on the packaging front | |
| 08:49 | we're all volunteers.. I just have to remind myself of that.. I'm not angry at anyone, but feel like the holdups are reflecting badly on me :( | |
| 08:49 | marcelr | you shouldnt indeed |
| 08:50 | maybe send a message about why we are waiting | |
| 08:50 | Joubu | marcelr: Hi, did you see bug 19288 when QAing bug 20948? |
| 08:50 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19288 minor, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Holds placed on a specific item after a next available hold will show varied results |
| 08:50 | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20948 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Item-level hold info displayed regardless its priority (detail.pl) | |
| 08:50 | ashimema | I was trying to work out if they're dupes or not but didn't manage to before rolling release |
| 08:50 | marcelr | hi Joubu i may have seen that one before ;) |
| 08:51 | ashimema | it surprised me that one was marked major whilst the other minor. |
| 08:51 | Joubu | marcelr: it's one or the other, if I understood well. So if one is picked, the other one must be closed |
| 08:51 | marcelr | i picked the major |
| 08:52 | lets close the other one yes | |
| 08:53 | Joubu what about the warn bug; still doing something there ? | |
| 08:53 | Joubu | I think kidclamp has a preference for his fix |
| 08:53 | marcelr | anyone has |
| 08:53 | i will change the status | |
| 08:54 | of kidclamps bug | |
| 08:54 | Joubu | I had to test bug 24114 before swithing the status to NSO, but feel free to test if you want! |
| 08:54 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24114 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , modules must not warn |
| 08:55 | * Joubu | is trying to make them believe he tests his patches before submitting them |
| 08:56 | * marcelr | will not explain the benefits of testing again |
| 08:57 | marcelr | bug 24114 |
| 08:57 | no huginn | |
| 08:59 | ashimema | i see huginn.. |
| 08:59 | marcelr | yeah bug 24114 |
| 08:59 | Joubu | it's the last one displayed |
| 08:59 | bug 10000 | |
| 08:59 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Little typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt: sliip |
| 08:59 | marcelr | it even is intelligent |
| 08:59 | :) | |
| 09:00 | eythian | rangi: cait: it's not impossible that I have the keys, but I'm not sure. If they were only ever on my catalyst machine, then no. Though, I remember before I left sending them to a handful of people so it's probable that one or both of you, maybe gmcharlt, etc also have them. |
| 09:00 | I think wizzyrea too | |
| 09:00 | marcelr | hi eythian just give back these keys |
| 09:00 | eythian | marcelr: NEVER! |
| 09:01 | marcelr | heb geen actieve herinnering aan die ... sleutels |
| 09:01 | ashimema | hopefully mtj is on the case for us eythian.. though it's getting late there now so he may have gone to bed |
| 09:01 | eythian | Not while bug 21892 is unfixed, especially! |
| 09:01 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21892 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Robin Sheat is not a typo |
| 09:01 | ashimema | we really need to sort out a few other packaging issue too with high priority :( |
| 09:02 | mtj | hiya ashimema, ive no plans tonite, so ill be up for a while yet |
| 09:02 | ashimema | oh cool :) |
| 09:02 | marcelr | mtj++ |
| 09:02 | eythian | marcelr: ik ook, het was vier jaar geleden. |
| 09:03 | ashimema | does anyone still talk to lars... do we need his help or do we have a handle on D10 packaing (not this time around mtj.. i'm not burdening you with that one 😉 ) |
| 09:03 | eythian | ashimema: well sing out if you need it, better to ping me by non-IRC methods over the weekend though as I don't often see it. |
| 09:03 | Debian is pretty conservative, I can't see too many changes being required. | |
| 09:03 | ashimema | do you guys package stuff up where you work eythian |
| 09:04 | eythian | ashimema: yeah but for centos, and there's a team that does it anyway so I haven't looked at it myself. |
| 09:04 | * ashimema | has a real love/hate relationship with packages at the moment... dependancies accross os versions is proving harder and harder |
| 09:05 | ashimema | we have a pretty major security issue with certain combinations of dependancies at the moment and no real way of pinning to versions we know work and are safe.. that scares me |
| 09:05 | eythian | yeah, it can get tricky. It easier when you control the whole stack of course. |
| 09:05 | ashimema | just wondering how others cope with that |
| 09:05 | eythian | oh, that's a problem |
| 09:06 | ashimema | basically.. the version of Mojolicious changes significantly between deb versions.. and introduces a security hole in the way we use it.. problem is.. when we fix the hole for that version it creates the exact same hole for the other version |
| 09:06 | eythian | You can force versions in dependencies though, or on the system itself, depending on what you're doing. |
| 09:06 | oh | |
| 09:07 | that's a tough one. | |
| 09:07 | ashimema | indeed.. |
| 09:07 | eythian | detect the version in code and use it in the relevant way? It's ugly, but it won't have to last forever. |
| 09:08 | ashimema | yeah.. that's my fallback if we can't get anything else to work.. but it feels so dirty.. haha |
| 09:08 | and this is in the auth code.. so could be evil looking it up with every request | |
| 09:08 | Joubu | we should provide a koha.exe with everything in it. I heard that's how some people do |
| 09:08 | ashimema | we'd have to cache it I reckon |
| 09:08 | eythian | ashimema: yeah, though you know it's never going to change for the life of the process, so caching is OK. |
| 09:08 | ashimema | well.. that's where docker and things are taking us isn't it. ;) |
| 09:08 | eythian | Joubu: itym flatpak/snap |
| 09:09 | ashimema | self contained distributable apps with everything included.. |
| 09:09 | true | |
| 09:09 | * ashimema | needs a :tea: |
| 09:10 | Joubu | eythian: well that was a bad joke and reference to an other OS |
| 09:10 | eythian | Joubu: I know :) |
| 09:11 | besides, you really just need to pass around koha.jar, surely | |
| 09:12 | Joubu | There were already several attemps from people from this channel I think |
| 09:12 | ashimema | lol |
| 09:13 | our about page is getting insane :) | |
| 09:16 | Joubu | it's for librarians getting bored at work |
| 09:16 | ashimema | remind me Joubu.. what do we do with bugzilla spam |
| 09:16 | bug 23881 | |
| 09:16 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23881 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No control! |
| 09:17 | Joubu | marking as spam (title=SPAM) and private the comments |
| 09:17 | usually it's enough | |
| 09:17 | I had to disable the user a couple of time | |
| 09:18 | ashimema | ta |
| 09:18 | Joubu | I also moved out from security when it's there. Yeah, spammers put content in non indexed parts... |
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| 09:23 | ashimema | good to know |
| 09:23 | Joubu | docker container explode with "koha_koha_1 exited with code 1 |
| 09:23 | " | |
| 09:24 | how do I debug that? | |
| 09:25 | ashimema | ah.. I've never gotten to the bottom of that one :( |
| 09:25 | eythian | Can you get logs after the fact in docker? I've only used it in k8s lately, where you can. |
| 09:26 | Maybe have it do logging into a mounted volume so it's persistant. | |
| 09:27 | Joubu | yes, but.. I have disk space issues, so it's good to not have them persistent :) |
| 09:28 | eythian | then logrotate :) |
| 09:28 | also, logs are necessary for diagnosing issues in general, so should be permanent somewhere. | |
| 09:28 | magnuse | @seen liw |
| 09:28 | huginn | magnuse: I have not seen liw. |
| 09:31 | Joubu | the (not so) funny thing is that I get it crashes when trying to create a volume, to have persistent stuffs :D |
| 09:36 | mtj | ashimema: about for a Q? |
| 09:36 | ashimema | sure |
| 09:36 | sort of in a meeting but I can multi-task ;) | |
| 09:36 | eythian | Joubu: ah, that would be a problem |
| 09:36 | though you can mount into part of the local filesystem I think, maybe that works. | |
| 09:37 | Otherwise, I manually run the container with a shell inside, reproduce the issue, and see what's going on. Standard stuff. | |
| 09:42 | Joubu | silly question maybe but, how do I read binary logs? |
| 09:43 | I have a "lastlog" that is not really human friendly | |
| 09:43 | eythian | lastlog is a special thing |
| 09:43 | Joubu | it's for login |
| 09:43 | eythian | it's what "last" reads |
| 09:45 | Joubu | where is syslog?! |
| 09:45 | there is nothing useful in /var/log | |
| 09:46 | eythian | you probably don't have a rsyslog daemon running in the container |
| 09:46 | (that's normal, they should really only run one thing.) | |
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| 09:58 | Joubu | Setting up libapache2-mpm-itk (2.4.7-04-1) ... |
| 09:58 | ERROR: Module mpm_invalid does not exist! | |
| 09:58 | lol.. | |
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| 10:16 | marcelr | Joubu: I can change bug 24114 to signed off or you could still add your sign off ? |
| 10:16 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24114 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , modules must not warn |
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| 12:50 | tcohen | morning |
| 12:57 | * ashimema | sort of hopes mtj has gone to bed.. it's epic late in nz now isn't it |
| 12:57 | ashimema | morning tchoen |
| 12:59 | eythian | ashimema: it's 13 hours ahead of you at the moment. |
| 13:00 | but iirc mtj keeps weird hours | |
| 13:01 | mtj | hi eythian, im still up :) |
| 13:01 | ashimema | crazy person :) |
| 13:01 | in a good way | |
| 13:01 | cait | told ya ,) |
| 13:02 | ashimema | I seriously owe you beers mate |
| 13:04 | cait | mtj: how is it going? |
| 13:05 | mtj | hmm, its going ok.. just testing packages via a testing repo |
| 13:06 | magnuse | mtj++ |
| 13:06 | tcohen | mtj++ |
| 13:07 | mtj | i havent done a 'rollover' release before, and im a bit rusty too |
| 13:08 | tcohen | take more coffee mtj, and you'll be fine |
| 13:08 | haha | |
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| 13:10 | eythian | mtj: I'm not surprised really :) |
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| 13:11 | cait | crossing fingers |
| 13:11 | have a nie weekend all | |
| 13:11 | mtj++ too :) | |
| 13:11 | * magnuse | too |
| 13:11 | magnuse | have fun cait |
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| 13:13 | ashimema | sorry mtj.. I have no idea what's happened to drojf.. he seems to have just dropped off the face of the earth |
| 13:13 | hope he's ok.. he's normally not bad at getting back to me | |
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| 13:54 | mtj | yep, me too |
| 13:55 | i seem to have created the 19.11 distro/pocket incorrectly on my test repo... | |
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| 13:57 | ashimema | it's way too late for you.. I'm happy to call it and just send out a mail saying the release is just waiting on packaging and will be available early december |
| 13:57 | it just would have been nice to get a november release out in november.. haha | |
| 14:15 | caroline_catlady | good morning all! |
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| 14:21 | caroline_catlady | ashimema: did you want me to do anything about bug 24136? |
| 14:21 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24136 minor, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Add libraries (sponsors) to the about page |
| 14:22 | ashimema | er.. |
| 14:22 | nope | |
| 14:22 | caroline_catlady | or it was just to let me know? |
| 14:22 | ashimema | sorry.. I clones a bug to create it.. that probably copied your cc |
| 14:22 | sorry | |
| 14:22 | caroline_catlady | okok no worries! |
| 14:23 | I thought maybe you wanted me to review if we had any libraries in the sponsors | |
| 14:23 | ashimema | well hopefully they've all been caught by now anyway in the release notes ;) |
| 14:23 | tcohen | :-D |
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| 15:29 | Joubu | ashimema: bug 24138, if you want to be ahead for .01 :D |
| 15:29 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24138 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , suspension miscalculated when Suspension charging interval bigger than 1 and Max. suspension duration is defined |
| 15:30 | ashimema | interesting.. |
| 15:30 | there are some other bugs around that area | |
| 15:30 | I'll have a look | |
| 15:32 | Joubu | others are not that obvious |
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| 16:39 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:55 | vfernandes | #koha it's possible on Koha email templates remove the hours from issue/return dates? |
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| 18:47 | tcohen | vfernandes you mean the default ones? |
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| 23:57 | davidnind | LOL - found 'Caroline was here' in the manual source files (acquisitions.rst):) |
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