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06:40 | reiveune | hello |
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06:55 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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07:45 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 20691: DBRev 19.06.00.026 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fe042d211a10e071d> |
07:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20691: (QA follow-up) API-related fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0048deac196ed80ac> | |
07:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20691: (QA follow-up) Fix atomic update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d2cbd8be1f35dd194> | |
07:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20691: (follow-up) Fix qa fails <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87a572f1278be0a17> | |
07:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20691: Implement fines view <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e4d26bae0ae2630e7> | |
07:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20691: Add ability to turn feature on and off <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]577595a9c8cd60dfb> | |
07:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 20691: Database update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4fb91b663c186294e> | |
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09:50 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
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12:09 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
12:14 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #164: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D8/164/ |
12:18 | magnuse | hi oleonard |
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12:20 | gk | Hi Koha |
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12:22 | gk | Koha 19.05 on Ubuntu 18.04 or 16.04 Package Installation: Errors at Web Installtion. Error 1: The following error occured while importing database structure Install.pl: DBD:mysql:st excecute failed. BLOB, TEXT, GEOMETRY or JSON column ‘changed fields’ can’t have a default value at /usr/share/perl5DBIx/RunSQL.pm line 273. |
12:23 | Error2: DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Table 'koha_test.discharges' doesn't exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Patron/Discharge.pm line 31 | |
12:24 | Instead of 205 tables I find only 160 tables in koha database. | |
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12:28 | oleonard | gk: I see results in my web searches that suggest it may be because MySQL is in "strict" mode |
12:28 | I don't know anything about it... just wanted to pass that on. | |
12:30 | gk | Thanks oleonard. How can I fix it? |
12:31 | oleonard | gk: I suggest searching the web for how to disable strict mode in mysql. Unless there's someone here who can tell you how to do it |
12:31 | gk | Thank you. I will do that. |
12:44 | * oleonard | bbl |
12:52 | caroline_catlady | good morning! |
12:53 | davidnind | hi caroline_catlady! |
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13:04 | caroline_catlady | @davidnind meeting? |
13:04 | huginn | caroline_catlady: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
13:04 | davidnind | Anyone around for the documentation meeting? |
13:04 | caroline_catlady | I'm here! |
13:04 | davidnind | I should read before I hit enter!:) |
13:04 | caroline_catlady | :) |
13:04 | lucyvh | Yes I'm here |
13:04 | caroline_catlady | hi lucyvh! |
13:04 | davidnind | Hi lucyvh! |
13:05 | lucyvh | Hiboth |
13:05 | davidnind | #startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 12 September 2019 |
13:05 | huginn | Meeting started Thu Sep 12 13:05:12 2019 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
13:05 | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | |
13:05 | Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 12 September 2019) | |
13:05 | huginn | The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_12_september_2019' |
13:05 | ashimema | #info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
13:05 | davidnind | #topic Introductions |
13:05 | Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 12 September 2019) | |
13:06 | caroline_catlady | #info Caroline Cyr La Rose, inlibro |
13:06 | davidnind | #info David Nind |
13:06 | lucyvh | #info Lucy Vaux-Harvey PTFS Europe |
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13:07 | davidnind | Looks like it is just us! |
13:07 | #topic Action points | |
13:07 | Topic for #koha is now Action points (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 12 September 2019) | |
13:08 | davidnind | Looks like my list hasn't magically disappeared! |
13:08 | I've been working through installation, but not much to share yet or progress on other tasks | |
13:09 | caroline_catlady | I didn't get much done on the git guide either |
13:09 | davidnind | #inofo Agenda https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]12_September_2019 |
13:09 | #info https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]12_September_2019 | |
13:09 | Starting to feel very bad about lack of any visible progress! | |
13:10 | caroline_catlady | thd has been making good progess on the wiki update |
13:10 | davidnind | yes, that is great - a lot of work to get things working |
13:10 | will be great to have a more up-to-date version of mediawiki | |
13:11 | ashimema | thd++ |
13:11 | davidnind | #info Good progress being made on the wiki update by thd |
13:11 | caroline_catlady | yes thd++ |
13:12 | davidnind | Quite keen to make some progress on an installation guide |
13:12 | caroline_catlady | So davidnind what would be your priorities for you and for us? |
13:13 | work on action points or work on the manual, or something else? | |
13:13 | * ashimema | would also like to point out we now have 70 until the planned release |
13:13 | magnuse | days? |
13:13 | caroline_catlady | or do you want to assign tasks to different ppl? |
13:13 | ashimema | It would be good to have some help chasing authors of 'new features' for this cycle to get corresponding manual submissions in asap. |
13:14 | 70 days..yes.. | |
13:14 | davidnind | Main priority is to get manual up-to-date |
13:14 | ashimema | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]notes_19_06_00.md |
13:14 | caroline_catlady | ok! |
13:14 | davidnind | I was thinking one way would be to pick a section or chapter and review this to see if it is up-to-date |
13:15 | ashimema | good plan davidnind |
13:15 | davidnind | I'm working through the installation page at the moment |
13:15 | caroline_catlady | I started acquisitions, so I might as well continue on that |
13:15 | davidnind | caroline_catlady++ |
13:16 | lucyvh | I haven't been able to do much recently - happy to have a go at Cataloguing |
13:16 | davidnind | excellent, and thanks lucyvh! |
13:17 | That's three areas assigned! | |
13:17 | lucyvh | What is the best way of chasing for the new features? |
13:17 | caroline_catlady | with a golden whip |
13:18 | you lasso them and make them write it down XD | |
13:18 | lucyvh | Haha!! |
13:18 | davidnind | wondering how a virtual whip would work... |
13:18 | ashimema | I would say look at the bug on BZ and see what company (if it's a company) is behind it.. then chase the company.. often it's not the developer who would be in a position to write the docs and they may need to lean on trainers/documentor from within the company.. |
13:19 | davidnind | Would posting on bugzilla asking for docs for the bug work? |
13:20 | for each pushed bug , where required? | |
13:20 | ashimema | I certainly try to add the 'Manual' keyword to such bugs as a start.. and often follow with a comment yes. |
13:20 | davidnind | thanks ashimema! |
13:21 | ashimema | next cycle I'd really like to push harder for docs submissions... just nto entirely sure how to do it. |
13:21 | davidnind | I should look at the search setup for this more often! |
13:21 | ashimema | almost need a policy of pulling features back out if a manual entry isn't submitted in a timely manor |
13:22 | davidnind | wonders how that would go down! |
13:22 | okay, so we have got a bit of plan, we'll see how it works! | |
13:22 | ashimema | other things are a bit more minor and easy to add manual updates as you find issues with them.. for example bug 16284.. likely a small one line update to whatever may already exist in the manual regarding the feature. |
13:22 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=16284 normal, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to master , With CheckPrevCheckout used, check only the item for previous checkout if biblio is serial |
13:24 | davidnind | I'll start looking through the release notes to add any items required to taiga, hopefully I can be as dilligent as caroline_catlady was at this! |
13:25 | #info tasks assigned for reviewing sections of the manual in an effort to get it up to date | |
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13:26 | davidnind | #info davidnind to monitor newly pushed bugs and the release notes and try to encourage doc contributions, and get the minor items incorproated |
13:27 | Will see how we go! | |
13:27 | #topic What's been done so far | |
13:27 | Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 12 September 2019) | |
13:28 | davidnind | In the last month one change was from cait, which removed marc mapping |
13:29 | Anything else anyone is aware of? Occasionally seeing some updates to the week for the training resources, which is great. | |
13:29 | cait++ | |
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13:30 | davidnind | #topic Content development guidelines |
13:30 | caroline_catlady | Marie-Luce and I have been working on a knowledge base. It's mainly for our clients, but it's available on the Web |
13:30 | Topic for #koha is now Content development guidelines (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 12 September 2019) | |
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13:31 | caroline_catlady | #link https://inlibro.com/en/product[…]top-category=koha still has some work to be done, but the articles are available in english and french |
13:32 | davidnind | just found it, it looks excellent! |
13:33 | lucyvh | That looks great |
13:33 | davidnind | #info inlibro working on a knowledge base for their clients |
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13:34 | davidnind | I might have to learn French! :) |
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13:34 | caroline_catlady | everytime we get a support question that looks like it could benefit everyone, we write an article |
13:34 | (trying to find the page in English) | |
13:35 | davidnind | (falls back on using Google Translate...) |
13:35 | would like to do something similar for Koha (from my talk at KohaCon) | |
13:35 | caroline_catlady | if you click on an article, it comes up in English... anyway, like I said, still wip |
13:36 | The only thing that worries me is keeping it up to date | |
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13:36 | caroline_catlady | we already have trouble keeping the manual up to date |
13:37 | davidnind | I think that is the ongoing challenging with any content - documentation and training.... |
13:38 | #topic Content development guidelines | |
13:38 | Topic for #koha is now Content development guidelines (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 12 September 2019) | |
13:39 | davidnind | Does anyone have anything they would like to discuss, or any particular things that annoy them? |
13:40 | caroline_catlady | what do you mean by content development guidelines? |
13:41 | davidnind | Will try and post one or two things for the next meeting, similar to what the development meeting does for the coding guidelines |
13:41 | the more familiar phrase might be style guide | |
13:41 | caroline_catlady | ah ok! :) |
13:43 | davidnind | my minds gone black at the moment... so hopefully it will stare working again soon! |
13:44 | #topic Next steps | |
13:44 | Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 12 September 2019) | |
13:44 | caroline_catlady | davidnind I will send you some things that I think about |
13:45 | davidnind | Excellent! |
13:45 | Right, I think we have discussed next steps, and we all have something to work on over the next couple of weeks | |
13:46 | unless there is anything else you would all like to raise | |
13:46 | lucyvh | If we work through the release notes and document a particular bug where's the best place to record that it's been done? |
13:46 | ashimema | What I've been doing is using the Keywords in BZ.. |
13:47 | so.. add the 'Manual' or/and 'release-notes-needed' keyword to the bug in BZ if it's still needing some input.. | |
13:47 | then remove it once I've done the work.. i.e. filled in the 'Text to go in the release notes' field in BZ or submitted a manual patch and had it merged. | |
13:48 | I can work through the notes adding the keywords for wherever it's missing to date now if people would like. | |
13:48 | does that sound like a reasonable workflow.. I'm aware it doesn't record any form of "I'm working on this" status though. | |
13:48 | lucyvh | OK, so just remove the keywords once we're done? |
13:48 | ashimema | it's either done or not done in that scenario |
13:49 | works for me.. | |
13:49 | lucyvh | Yes see what you mean... |
13:49 | caroline_catlady | also on taiga |
13:49 | davidnind | the other thing is to add that bug to taiga if it is not there already there, and then cose it of |
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13:49 | caroline_catlady | (sorry discussing 490 vs 830 with a colleague, very intense discussion) |
13:49 | ashimema | indeed.. i've never got entirely up to speed on taiga |
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13:49 | davidnind | all the above sound good! |
13:50 | ditto | |
13:50 | whoosh (490 vs 830).... :) | |
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13:50 | davidnind | no trying to work out how to info this! |
13:50 | lucyvh | Sounds fun!! |
13:52 | davidnind | #info if a bug needs documentation add Manual and or release-notes-needed keyword to the bug in Bugzilla |
13:53 | #info if the issue is fixed close of taiga task if t exists (or add and close off if it doesn't) | |
13:54 | #info remove keywords from the bug once patch merged or text to go in release notes field completed | |
13:54 | hope that covers it! | |
13:54 | thanks ashimema! | |
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13:55 | davidnind | #topic Next meeting |
13:55 | Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 12 September 2019) | |
13:56 | davidnind | Is everyone happy for around this time and on the 3rd or 20th October? |
13:56 | ashimema | thankyou guys for all your hard work to date. |
13:56 | works for me. | |
13:56 | caroline_catlady | 20 octobre is a sunday |
13:56 | and 3rd is during hackfest | |
13:57 | davidnind | thanks ashima for encouraging the documentation and release notes contributions! |
13:57 | not sure where I got the 20th from! | |
13:57 | I think I meant the 10th! | |
13:58 | lucyvh | 10th good for me |
13:58 | davidnind | is anyone going to Marseille? |
13:58 | ashimema | I will be there (once I book my flights!) |
13:59 | davidnind | sounds like it is always a great experience! |
13:59 | ashimema | I was just discussing this with lucyvh actually.. the french often have a librarians table where they add allot to their own manual... |
13:59 | be nice to get something going for the community manual too.. I think some of it ends up submitted.. but allot ends up somewhere in french I believe. | |
14:00 | it's a good time to write docs.. as the developers are often on hand to explain the features you may be trying to document. | |
14:01 | davidnind | would welcome suggestions for when they have problems translating from english that could be fixed to make translation easier |
14:02 | is always easier to ask developers to explain what something does | |
14:02 | #info Next meeting 10 October 13:00 UTC | |
14:02 | lucyvh | Need to pop out now, thanks and bye all |
14:02 | davidnind | #endmeeting |
14:02 | Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org | |
14:02 | huginn | Meeting ended Thu Sep 12 14:02:31 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
14:02 | Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-09-12-13.05.html | |
14:02 | Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-09-12-13.05.txt | |
14:02 | Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]12-13.05.log.html | |
14:02 | davidnind | thanks lucyvh! |
14:02 | thanks everyone for attending | |
14:03 | ashimema | thanks all |
14:03 | caroline_catlady | thanks davidnind |
14:03 | davidnind | off to catch some zzzs |
14:03 | caroline_catlady | sleep tight! |
14:03 | ashimema | sleep well davidnind |
14:04 | davidnind | thanks! will be a short one i think - need to back at work in 6 hours! |
14:04 | night/morning everyone! | |
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14:15 | ashimema | calendar meeting script run |
14:15 | caroline_catlady | lol +1 |
14:16 | ashimema | ps.. if you guys wanted to update the meeting agenda structure.. the default template the script uses is available and updatable. |
14:16 | caroline_catlady | is it on the wiki? |
14:17 | ashimema | yup |
14:17 | just trying to find the page | |
14:17 | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_meeting_Template | |
14:18 | caroline_catlady | cool thanks ashimema++ |
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14:18 | ashimema | just don't mess with the `__THING__` placeholders.. |
14:18 | caroline_catlady | can we add some? |
14:18 | ashimema | otherwise change it to what you guys feel is fit :) |
14:18 | caroline_catlady | like if we wanted to add the #action from the minutes |
14:18 | ashimema | placeholders? |
14:19 | ooh.. that's a cool idea.. | |
14:19 | hmmm. | |
14:19 | that would need some enhancements to the scripts at my end too.. but I don't see why not if you think it's a good idea. | |
14:19 | we already read the minutes of the meeting at part of the script | |
14:19 | so pulling out actions shouldn't be too honerous | |
14:19 | caroline_catlady | ok, I'll see with david, I think he does it manually |
14:20 | but it would be a good reminder of who was meant to do what | |
14:20 | ashimema | totally.. I really like the idea |
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14:23 | caroline_catlady | ooh, oleonard got a makeover |
14:23 | oleon | What now? |
14:23 | Oh, new Chatzilla installation | |
14:23 | caroline_catlady | oleon sounds latin :) |
14:35 | tcohen | hi all |
14:36 | caroline_catlady | hi tcohen! |
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15:01 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 23599: Avoid exploding in search_with_library_limits when no library is passed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c36ea2e167c43929b> |
15:01 | News from kohagit: Bug 23599: Regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]db0f8aa9d36133299> | |
15:05 | reiveune | bye |
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15:33 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #864: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/864/ |
15:35 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 15497: DBRev 19.06.00.027 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da78eb13e63e8a227> |
15:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 15497: (QA follow-up) Use the methods from bug 23281 instead <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0cc91be9cd49a1c5f> | |
15:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 15497: Limit itemtypes by branch in additem.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1101db52ddb52da39> | |
15:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 15497: Modify schemas <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f3121988be5332718> | |
15:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 15497: (QA follow-up) Fix call in search_with_localization <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1689ef090ae41ff20> | |
15:35 | News from kohagit: Bug 15497: Add itemtypes_branches table and atomic update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9df7d0144c82ef7c9> | |
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15:42 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #349: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/349/ |
15:42 | oleonard | tcohen: In koha-testing-docker, "warning: failed to exec 'man': No such file or directory" |
15:45 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 23580: Add C4::Context->yaml_preference <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9af24a59bc37a982e> |
15:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 23580: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0d3ef4b3cba269041> | |
15:45 | News from kohagit: Bug 16825: Add API route for getting an item <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]94ff2b463be8c834a> | |
15:45 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #380: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/380/ |
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15:55 | tcohen | oleonard: maybe it is not isntalled? |
15:55 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 21058: Added HTML class to showRDAtag264 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]69b52f4f8b5ad6e5a> |
15:55 | News from kohagit: Bug 21058: Added HTML classes in MARC21slim2_Detail.xsl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]26922f05e9d4f000d> | |
15:55 | oleonard | It isn't! |
15:55 | tcohen | pull request! |
15:55 | oleonard | :) |
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17:38 | Guest2416 | Hi, I'm having trouble creating tags. I don't see the default ones and it doesn't even let me create new ones. any solution? |
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18:17 | caroline_catlady | Guest2416: are you talking about tags in the OPAC? |
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18:55 | * cait1 | waves |
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18:57 | caroline_catlady | hi cait1! |
18:57 | are you cait's evil twin? | |
18:57 | oleonard | Bye all! |
19:14 | cait1 | maybe cait's very tired twin |
19:19 | caroline_catlady: ^:) | |
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19:44 | * andreashm | waves |
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20:17 | Guest2416 | yes, about tags on the opac |
20:18 | Bone of the label maker in the tools module | |
20:19 | the ones that koha brings by default are missing and it doesn't let me make new templates | |
20:19 | sCan they be installed from the terminal? as? | |
20:22 | caroline_catlady | Guest2416: ah ok! you mean labels. If you have access to the database, you can use the sample_creator_data.sql file |
20:23 | it's in installer/data/mysql/en/optional on my computer, not sure if the hierarchy is the same | |
20:35 | Guest2416 | I rephrase my doubt How can I install libraries, user meat templates, tag creator for the items that come with testing along with koha? |
20:41 | caroline_catlady | if you have access to your server, you can do something like ```mysql -u root -p koha_database < installer/data/mysql/en/optional/sample_creator_data.sql |
20:41 | ``` | |
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21:41 | caroline_catlady | good night! |
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