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| 07:22 | cait | @later tell wizzyrea could you add Hypernova to list of support companies please? https://www.hypernova.fi/fi/koha/ https://lists.katipo.co.nz/pip[…]ugust/053536.html |
| 07:22 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
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| 08:19 | ashimema | cait about? |
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| 08:19 | cait | yes |
| 08:19 | ashimema | I can probably add Hypernova if you like |
| 08:19 | also... | |
| 08:20 | cait | I think i have access, just don't know how the plugin works |
| 08:20 | if you want to have a look that woudl be nice | |
| 08:20 | ashimema | bug 22744.. I've slighlty lost track of what's going no there.. |
| 08:20 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22744 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , 'Do not notify' is really a 'Clear' option |
| 08:20 | cait | improving usability |
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| 08:20 | ashimema | do you have a preference regarding which patch |
| 08:20 | cait | compare now and the 2 patches, pick what you like best ;) |
| 08:20 | i lost track too and might take a whlie to find it again | |
| 08:20 | ashimema | okies |
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| 08:21 | cait | PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR - someone seen that? |
| 08:22 | cert is fine for me | |
| 08:22 | ashimema | ok.. no idea how the support listing works.. I'll leave it to wizzy ;) |
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| 08:27 | cait | ashimema: i think that#s where i ended up last time too :) |
| 08:27 | but i thoguth since we know lari, we shoudl add them - do you agree? | |
| 08:28 | ashimema | hmm.. this alternative patch only applies to staff side and doesn't have the corrsponding change in the opac template |
| 08:29 | FQA ;) | |
| 08:29 | I find 'Do not notify' and 'Clear' just as confusing as each other. | |
| 08:29 | we don't allow for not sending notices at all do we currently.. | |
| 08:29 | if you de-select all other options we default to 'print' do we not. | |
| 08:31 | cait | maybe "unselect all"? |
| 08:39 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #40: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_U18/40/ |
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| 08:43 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #41: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D9/41/ |
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| 10:20 | huginn | News from kohagit: Bug 23404: (QA follow-up) Minor fix <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d3b36bc97ca7868a4> |
| 10:20 | News from kohagit: Bug 23353: ACQ framework makes fr-CA web installer explode <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3bb62397335b4eeb5> | |
| 10:20 | News from kohagit: Bug 23404: fix Circulation::TooMany error on itemtype when at biblio level <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]855483b8b9c735a9f> | |
| 10:20 | News from kohagit: Bug 23404: add UT to show bug <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2db3bc768b42b445b> | |
| 10:20 | News from kohagit: Bug 23404: Change UT calls <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]12d1c85e4f9fb41d2> | |
| 10:20 | News from kohagit: Bug 22929: Allow SCI/SCO logins independent of GDPR_Policy <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ef53a4c4d7fea76bf> | |
| 10:36 | News from kohagit: Bug 23464: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ce6ba71da1ea296be> | |
| 10:36 | News from kohagit: Bug 23492: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ae7d96a529eff28fe> | |
| 10:36 | News from kohagit: Bug 23512: (follow-up) Markup comments and corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3e739c257f9071995> | |
| 10:36 | News from kohagit: Bug 23512: Reindent notices and slips page (letter.tt) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]61a6cdb5bec42f884> | |
| 10:36 | News from kohagit: Bug 23464: (follow-up) QA fixes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5e9cfeed1b96ea5b7> | |
| 10:36 | News from kohagit: Bug 23492: OPAC search facet header should not be a link at larger browser widths <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0c3315936f5bff9b4> | |
| 10:36 | News from kohagit: Bug 23464: Update the process of quick spine label printing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35483cd3334884820> | |
| 10:36 | News from kohagit: Bug 22627: Rename tab on my summary page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]60cf3ed9e85240a7a> | |
| 10:36 | News from kohagit: Bug 22627: Renames OPAC fines tab to 'your charges' to be more inclusive <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4dba4c0170b27b601> | |
| 10:36 | News from kohagit: Bug 21180: Allow Talking Tech outbound script to limit based on patron home library... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b0bdca8f70132e4f0> | |
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| 10:59 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #344: UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/344/ |
| 11:00 | ashimema | grr |
| 11:03 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #860: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/860/ |
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| 11:28 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D9 build #42: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D9/42/ |
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| 11:29 | oleonard | Hi all |
| 11:38 | calire | hi oleonard |
| 11:38 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 11:39 | oleonard | How are you calire? Long time no see |
| 11:39 | calire | I was on holiday :) |
| 11:39 | I'm good thanks :D | |
| 11:40 | oleonard | My condolences on your return to work |
| 11:40 | calire | thank you |
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| 11:40 | cait | .... it's not THAT bad I hope |
| 11:40 | calire | well it's not a hut in the alps ;) |
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| 11:42 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #41: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_U18/41/ |
| 11:43 | * oleonard | ponders all the things which are not a hut in the alps |
| 11:44 | * magnuse | fears oleonard will be gone a long time |
| 11:45 | * oleonard | ponders all the things which are neither a hut in the alps nor a stunning Norwegian landscape |
| 11:45 | magnuse | narrowing it down, good! |
| 11:46 | oleonard | Those pictures really were amazing magnuse |
| 11:46 | magnuse | huh, i go to /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl, am redirected to /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl?sco_user_login=1 and after 10 attempts get ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS. never saw that before |
| 11:46 | oleonard: thanks, it's a really nice place | |
| 11:48 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_19.05_D8 build #40: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_19.05_D8/40/ |
| 11:54 | cait | magnuse: does your user have the self-check perms? they cause weid things if it's not the self-check user |
| 11:55 | oleonard: you were too optimistig with your margin right | |
| 11:55 | on the new patron detail page - german is too long (again) | |
| 11:56 | oleonard | cait: Sounds like the default breakpoints for the Bootstrap grid are the problem. Could you file a bug? |
| 11:56 | cait | staff this time |
| 11:57 | but it seems to happen ab it more often that we have overlap of labels and content now | |
| 11:57 | starting to fix some with css, but maybe there is another way we could do it | |
| 11:58 | German is just an awkward language... | |
| 11:59 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 11:59 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 11:59 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #345: FIXED in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/345/ |
| 12:00 | cait | bug 23573 |
| 12:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23573 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Labels and content overlapping on patron detail page and others for some languages |
| 12:01 | oleonard | Thanks cait I'll make sure to take a look |
| 12:02 | cait | it would be nice, if you have an idea - but I understand if nto :) |
| 12:02 | oleonard: making screenshots for translated release notes... that's why i am turning up odd translation bugs today | |
| 12:02 | oleonard | cait++ |
| 12:02 | cait | you start to really look at things |
| 12:05 | hm another odd thing - i added a date of birth, gut it doesn't seem to show up | |
| 12:05 | on patrons > details | |
| 12:06 | ah i see the problem userjs | |
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| 12:16 | magnuse | cait: thanks for the tip, will check! |
| 12:20 | cait: the user has "self_checkout_module" rights, adding "circulate" does not change anything | |
| 12:21 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #861: SUCCESS in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/861/ |
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| 13:01 | magnuse | the patron in AutoSelfCheckID was expired, but renewing it did not solve the problem |
| 13:02 | the librarian is sure it worked last week, and maybe this morning. log shows no changes to sysprefs, and no code was updated | |
| 13:09 | *facepalm* it was because i tried to fix some other problem in the code... nm! | |
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| 13:23 | caroline_crazycatlady | hello everyone! |
| 13:23 | oleonard | Hi caroline_crazycatlady |
| 13:23 | Anyone know how to restart mysql in koha-testing-docker? | |
| 13:40 | tuxayo | Hi :) |
| 13:40 | Thanks oleonard I didn't know about koha-testing-docker ^^ | |
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| 13:40 | oleonard | tuxayo: I tried it during KohaCon in Portland but didn't really start using it until last week when my devbox refused to work |
| 13:41 | tuxayo | Funny, I tried the KohaDevBox when my LXD container install refused to work ^^ |
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| 13:42 | tuxayo | > Anyone know how to restart mysql in koha-testing-docker? |
| 13:42 | The overkill solution is to restart the container. It shouldn't be long though. | |
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| 13:45 | tuxayo | oleonard: Do you fell that koha-testing-docker has the same reliability than the DevBox for running the tests? I have a bunch of failures in the DevBox. |
| 13:45 | (testing current master) | |
| 13:45 | oleonard | tuxayo: I don't know, I'm not usually doing work that requires tests |
| 13:46 | I think part of the motivation for using it is that it is better for running tests, but I don't know the details | |
| 13:46 | tuxayo | Ho, I should try |
| 13:47 | oleonard: how about the usage as a dev env to manually see and test the changes. Is it as practical as the DevBox? (with the bonus of using less RAM ^^) | |
| 13:48 | oleonard | tuxayo: You should really be asking ashimema or tcohen. I am but a tiny baby. |
| 13:48 | tcohen | hi everyone |
| 13:48 | tuxayo | ^^ |
| 13:49 | Thanks for the feedback and pointers oleonard | |
| 13:49 | o/ tcohen | |
| 13:49 | tcohen | tuxayo: I moved to koha-testing-docker |
| 13:49 | for all my daily dev/QA work | |
| 13:49 | tuxayo | Great! |
| 13:50 | tcohen | on the README I point to a setup that adds some useful bash aliases |
| 13:50 | tuxayo | Does it means that the DevBox is in limited maintenance mode? |
| 13:50 | tcohen | https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ng-docker#aliases |
| 13:50 | people still use it | |
| 13:51 | I'd say it is in limited maintenance mode | |
| 13:51 | but there's been a PR to add support for Buster | |
| 13:51 | so, it will depend on the users | |
| 13:51 | I have it running on my box | |
| 13:51 | tuxayo | Thanks for the info :) |
| 13:51 | tcohen | just not using it ATM |
| 13:52 | tuxayo | hey fridolin o/ you don't need to be reluctant to use VirtualBox, we should just use koha-testing-docker. See previous messages. |
| 13:53 | fridolin | ok indeed |
| 13:54 | tcohen | @seen marcelr |
| 13:54 | huginn | tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 13 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi cait |
| 14:03 | Eduardo | Pleased to meet you koha people |
| 14:03 | tuxayo | hi Eduardo :) |
| 14:03 | Eduardo | I' like to ask you something concerning OPAC |
| 14:04 | hi tuxayo | |
| 14:04 | Hope this helps | |
| 14:04 | https://snipboard.io/Wcoitz.jpg | |
| 14:04 | is it posible to get something like this using the Koha intranet? | |
| 14:04 | or just I modify some config files? | |
| 14:07 | oleonard | What specifically do you want Eduardo? |
| 14:10 | Eduardo | I'd like to make my catalog work like that |
| 14:11 | all the details are on that page | |
| 14:11 | https://snipboard.io/qX7Vxv.jpg | |
| 14:12 | I'd just like to show that info | |
| 14:14 | and https://snipboard.io/pJPk0Z.jpg | |
| 14:14 | its about the results presentation | |
| 14:16 | caroline_crazycatlady | I have never seen such a presentation. There are probably changes in the .tt file? |
| 14:37 | oleonard | Eduardo: Is that OPAC public? Can you share a link? |
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| 14:51 | Eduardo | of course! |
| 14:52 | this is the lik | |
| 14:52 | http://tubiblioteca.utp.edu.pe/ | |
| 14:55 | oleonard | Eduardo: They have added custom JavaScript which does that |
| 14:57 | Oh, and perhaps a couple of extra perl scripts. So it's not a quick change. | |
| 14:58 | pastebot | "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Eduardo: Custom JavaScript added to OPACUserJS" (64 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/12940 |
| 15:10 | Eduardo | so Sr Oleonard, it is possible to get something like that as long as someone knows Javascript |
| 15:11 | thanks a lot, I'll try it out | |
| 15:11 | oleonard | I think it's probably possible even without the added perl scripts. Someone with some JavaScript experience could probably work something up |
| 15:12 | * oleonard | is trying not to get distracted into trying it himself |
| 15:12 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:19 | tuxayo | oleonard: Eduardo : info: this is a Koha 3.18.05100 |
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| 15:32 | Pit-Work | i have a question, our local internal koha is running a bit slow for my liking. I'm not sure what is causing it. Even loading the initial page takes 4-5 seconds. and i think its odd |
| 15:32 | any suggestions? | |
| 15:35 | actually its more like 6-9 seconds, for any page to load up, weather its a search or just the main page | |
| 15:39 | Eduardo | Koha 3.18? isnt that a little.... outdated? |
| 15:39 | Let see, yes, the current version is 19 | |
| 15:40 | Pit-Work | it was 3.18 untill i updated to current stable last week, on a dev box |
| 15:40 | and am testing it now | |
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| 15:48 | Pit-Work | looks like durring that wait period opac-search.pl is executing |
| 15:49 | but it uses a single thread on the host | |
| 15:49 | at least i think so | |
| 15:56 | caroline_crazycatlady | Pit-Work: just to clarify, the Koha that is slow is the 3.18 or 19.05? |
| 15:58 | Pit-Work | 19.05 |
| 15:58 | the 3.18 is just a tad faster | |
| 15:58 | but not much | |
| 15:59 | caroline_crazycatlady | and the 19.05 is on a devbox? do you know if a devbox can run plack? (I,ve only used a devbox once) |
| 15:59 | Pit-Work | we had koha running for many moons but used sparingly by one person, now that the library is well populated were getting some usage from staff, and thinking of making it accessible to the public, hence my renowed interest in getting this working properly |
| 15:59 | caroline_crazycatlady | After 16 or 17, you have to use plack otherwise it is painfully slow |
| 16:00 | Pit-Work | the devbox is a xen host, which i copied over our 3.18 install on debian 7 and updated to 8, then updated coha, reindexed etc |
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| 16:00 | Pit-Work | so it should run plack with no isues |
| 16:00 | does plack not get enabled on koha update? | |
| 16:01 | renowed=renewed | |
| 16:01 | caroline_crazycatlady | I have no idea, anyone? |
| 16:01 | Pit-Work | i havent touched this koha server for years so im quite rusty when it comes to its inner workings |
| 16:02 | as you can tell by previous version running 3.18 hah | |
| 16:10 | HMM after mild reading it seems that plack does not get pulled nor installed with koha update | |
| 16:10 | i'll try to do so manually | |
| 16:11 | also seems like template caching is not enabled either | |
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| 17:31 | oleonard | You'll never believe how fast item searching actually is. Bug 23575 |
| 17:31 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23575 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Template error causes item search to be submitted multiple times |
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| 18:01 | oleonard | On the plus side for kohadevbox... It never came to a crashing halt following an item search... |
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| 18:14 | oleonard | docker says 5 containers running, but "docker container list" shows none |
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| 18:18 | oleonard | tcohen around? |
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| 18:29 | Pit-Work | ooh i fund out i get 100s of warning errors in opac-error.log |
| 18:30 | all refering to same line in /usr/share/pearl5/MARC/File/XML.pm | |
| 18:31 | might be causing the massive slowdowns | |
| 18:42 | unfortunatelly i have no clue about pearl to figure out whats causing it | |
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| 18:46 | tcohen | hi |
| 18:46 | oleonard: needed me? | |
| 18:48 | oleonard | Yes, docker questions if you have a moment. Is there a recommended procedure for shutting down docker before powering off my computer? |
| 18:52 | Does Ctrl-C put it in a state where it can be restarted later? | |
| 18:52 | If so, is the command for restarting different than setting up a new one? | |
| 18:56 | davidnind | docker commands I usedocker-compose -p koha up // shortcut if aliases setup ku |
| 18:56 | docker-compose -p koha down // shortcut if aliases setup kd (destroys) | |
| 18:56 | docker exec -it koha_koha_1 bash // shortcut if aliases setup kshell | |
| 18:56 | docker ps // see what is running | |
| 18:56 | I normally start fresh - so down destroys the instance you have created | |
| 18:57 | oleonard | I'd rather not start fresh every time... |
| 18:59 | davidnind | haven't needed to keep current state, so not sure what the best way is to stop it it - I think if you do CTRL +C before you shut down your laptop, then you should be fine with the up command |
| 19:01 | ashimema | You can keep the dB oleonard .. there a switch for that |
| 19:01 | davidnind | I normally go CTRL +C, then kd (which is an alias) <-- this destroys everything, then I use ku to start up again next time I need it |
| 19:02 | oleonard | I haven't tried that ashimema, I should |
| 19:02 | * oleonard | has to go... more docker questions tomorrow I'm sure |
| 19:04 | davidnind | Restart mysql container = docker restart koha_db_1 (default container for database) |
| 19:05 | Getting into the mysql container = docker exec -it koha_db_1 bash | |
| 19:06 | To get into the database from the Koha container = koha-mysql kohadev | |
| 19:12 | bdonnahue | hey guys |
| 19:12 | looking to backup koha and found this guide: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Backing_up_Koha | |
| 19:12 | i had two questions... 1) is it up to date, 2) does koha not store documents? | |
| 19:13 | (brand new to koha so sorry if 2 is a dumb question) | |
| 19:15 | davidnind | bdonnahue: there are no dumb questions :) |
| 19:15 | bdonnahue | thanks davidnind :) |
| 19:16 | davidnind | if you have uploaded documents then these are stored on the file system, so you will need to back this up as well |
| 19:18 | bdonnahue | davidnind, i am still playing around with my first koha install. Where yould these docs be stored on the hdd? |
| 19:19 | davidnind | not that I run anything in production, but I think you have to backup 1) the database 2) your instance configurations (if you use packages these would be under /etc/koha/sites 3) any themes and changes to the Koha files (maybe manage these using git?) 4) any uploaded files 5) any customised plugins |
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| 19:23 | davidnind | just trying to find the location... also you would need to backup any local cover images you have uploaded as well |
| 19:24 | if you anyone around with system administration experience, and other GNU/Linux servers running, then adopting whatever backup and image tools they have would be recommended | |
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| 19:30 | davidnind | bdonnahue: looks like uploads are stored in /var/lib/koha/kohadev/uploads (this is the default in an instance's configuration file) - I think that this includes cover images, as well as any other files uploaded |
| 19:31 | bdonnahue | davidnind, the admin is me haha. I am thiking I can mount an nfs share on that dir and the mack regular archives of the dir |
| 19:32 | davidnind | bdonnahue: the path after /var/lib/koha will depend on your instance(s) name(s) |
| 19:32 | bdonnahue | right, thanks! forgot about that |
| 19:35 | davidnind | bdonnahie: lucky you :-D, hopefully someone who runs Koha in real life can share what they do for system backups |
| 19:40 | bdonnahue | would also be curious if anyone has setup a multi master cluster or at least HA |
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| 19:44 | davidnind | bdonnahue: I'm sure some has, particularly the Koha support providers and those running larger systems |
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