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01:20 | bdonnahue | hey all, i just installed koha following this guide: https://openschoolsolutions.or[…]r-schools-part-1/ |
01:20 | unfortunately when i curl 127.0.0.1 i am getting the default paache page | |
01:21 | apache* | |
01:21 | I am not sure what I need to do to make koha accessable | |
01:21 | can anyone help me out? | |
01:40 | mtj | bdonnahue: you probably have a default apache profile, thats overriding your koha profile |
01:40 | bdonnahue | mtj, yes you are right. i disabled that. |
01:41 | the article was missing steps | |
01:41 | I am now looking at https://libtechbwn.blogspot.co[…]ntu-1804-lts.html | |
01:41 | i am on step 20 | |
01:41 | trying to understand what is happening | |
01:41 | mtj | https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian |
01:42 | ^ the kc.org guides are the best | |
01:42 | bdonnahue | mtj, i was following the one for ubuntu but it was also missing steps i think |
01:43 | mtj | the debian/ubuntu steps are basically identical |
01:49 | bdonnahue: step 20... try the koha-passwd command instead | |
01:50 | bdonnahue | i dont see the step to disable the defaul site on those instructions also |
01:55 | mtj | i think its generally a step that not required |
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03:13 | bdonnahue | hey all, i am seeing this error: Access denied for user 'koha_library'@'localhost' |
03:13 | when i rebuild the zebra index or connect to the page | |
03:13 | any idea how to troubleshoot | |
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06:10 | carlos_ | Hey bdonnahue - I don't know if anyone's answered you yet but any time I see an error citing 'user' @ 'localhost' it's generally something to do with mysql/mariadb (does the user 'koha_library' exist in your mysql? Does it have the right permissions?) |
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06:42 | fridolin | hi |
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07:03 | alex_a | Bonjour |
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12:07 | cait | ashimema: around? |
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13:00 | cait | oh no oleonard :( |
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13:06 | caroline_catlady | good morning! |
13:07 | cait | good morning caroline_catlady :) |
13:07 | thd | Is there a meeting soon? |
13:08 | cait | i think now, but it seems no ashimema |
13:08 | and i am honestly too busy to chair :( | |
13:09 | kidclamp: ? | |
13:09 | the issue was it's not in the calendar | |
13:09 | the script to add it was nt run, so probably a lot missed it | |
13:13 | caroline_catlady | Is there a way to search ALL release notes to see when something was added to Koha (if we don't know which version) |
13:15 | kidclamp | Ah, apologies, I checked calendar but should have checked wiki |
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13:27 | thd | caroline_catlady: A feature based index of release notes content would be very useful. |
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13:32 | thd | caroline_catlady: I suggest sequentially concating or appending all release notes or anything similar from all Koha releases in a single sequential text file. You could then query the resulting file for some feature. |
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13:36 | thd | caroline_catlady: There may also be a way to construct a query of the git repository for release notes and similar files. |
13:39 | cait | caroline_crazycatlady: search in bugzilla - the version shoudl be listed in the ticket |
13:39 | because it will be multiple verisons... appending all the notes might still be quite confusing | |
13:40 | but the maints leave notes usualyl when they push and to which version | |
13:43 | tcohen | hi |
13:43 | thd | caroline_crazycatlady: The efficient means would be to write a script to sequentially change a clone of the Git repository to different release tags and automatically copy release notes and similar files and automatically append them to a single text file with the origin of the file automatically inserted as a separator between files. |
13:44 | Hello tcohen | |
13:44 | tcohen | next meeting? |
13:44 | wahanui | next meeting is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings |
13:44 | tcohen | bummer |
13:45 | thd | tcohen: People were reporting that the script to populate the calendar and send an announcement had not been run. |
13:47 | tcohen: Would you have some time to help me find some missing quotation or comma instead of the non-meeting? | |
13:50 | tcohen | I'm sorry, I'm on the waiting room at the doctor's |
13:53 | thd | tcohen: Stay in good health and keep away from all those sick people :) |
13:55 | * thd | should probably go back to sleep to avoid becoming sick. I also had some great solutions to problems while dreaming. |
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14:04 | bdonnahue | hey all, I have koha installed and it seems like both the internal and external sites are running on the same port and that the webserver is routing requests based on the dns names |
14:04 | is there a way to have them operate on separate ports? | |
14:05 | cait | yes |
14:05 | it#s actually quite common to have intranet on 8080 | |
14:05 | but it's also common to use different sub.domains | |
14:05 | depends a bit, we use ports for firewall rules | |
14:06 | bdonnahue: have a look at the httpd.conf of your site - but you can also put it in the config before creating an instance to make it happen at the beginning | |
14:07 | bdonnahue | hey cait thanks, will give that a look |
14:08 | also, i have an install script and a docker container for ubuntu that hosts koha | |
14:08 | was wondering if i could submit them to the project? | |
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14:08 | bdonnahue | will be working on a kubernetes manifest at some point but keeping it simple for now |
14:09 | tcohen | security by hiding on a different port is quite innefective |
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14:13 | * oleonard | waves |
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14:16 | csmith | hi all |
14:16 | could get some help again please? | |
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14:17 | oleonard | Guest1713: You'll have to ask a question for us to know whether we can help :) |
14:18 | Guest1713 | trying to set up koha that it can use the file path to our server |
14:18 | its a bit hard to explain | |
14:18 | essentially, instead of using the 856 field to link to some website like amazon. would want it to pick up the file from local server | |
14:19 | oleonard | What aspect of that isn't working? |
14:19 | Guest1713 | this is to make it so that only when on the company's network, is when a particular file can be accessed |
14:20 | when put in the file path, it throws an error, #blank | |
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14:22 | Guest1713 | "about:blank#blocked" |
14:22 | oleonard | Guest1713: This isn't my area of expertise but I would think checking Koha and web server logs would give some clues |
14:23 | Enabling access only on the local network sounds like a server configuration issue separate from Koha, so you may have better luck researching it as such | |
14:25 | Guest1713 | thanks, i will try going through the server configuration again |
14:29 | cait | tcohen: not hiding, blocking access in the firewall |
14:30 | Guest1713 | @tcohen, as in the server firewall? |
14:30 | huginn | Guest1713: downloading the Perl source |
14:30 | Guest1713 | is that to me? |
14:31 | cait | that's a bot - he picks up stuff sometimes, ignore |
14:31 | Guest1713 | oh okay |
14:46 | wizzyrea | i'm losing my mind, we have a command line importer that imports batches that were staged don't we |
14:46 | why can I not find it | |
14:59 | oleonard | Any luck wizzyrea? |
15:05 | wizzyrea | no :( |
15:06 | I can't imagine I would have written such a thing but maybe I did? | |
15:06 | and now it's lost to the ages. I guess. | |
15:09 | oleonard | Like the mighty Excalibur |
15:10 | caroline_crazycatlady | wizzyrea: I found commit_file.pl in my misc, maybe that's the one you're thinking of? |
15:12 | oleonard | I've been re-using the same testing data for so long all my child accounts are aging out |
15:16 | caroline_crazycatlady | oleonard: you have to make more babies |
15:17 | oleonard | So what you're saying is my Koha system should be running a civilization simulation to add continuous new data |
15:18 | * oleonard | accidentally creates artificial intelligence while trying to get better test records |
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15:32 | wizzyrea | caroline_crazycatlady++ yes that's probably |
15:32 | the one | |
15:33 | cait | wizzyrea: yes we have |
15:33 | wizzyrea | omg thank you I thought I was losing my mind |
15:33 | cait | stage and commit |
15:33 | they are just named badly | |
15:33 | wizzyrea | >.< |
15:34 | cait | the commit_file is the second step one |
15:34 | but caroline_crazycatlady already found it :) (slow in reading back today... chaos) | |
15:35 | stage_file.pl is uploading and commit_file is importing into the catalog | |
15:35 | we use them all the time | |
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15:44 | csmith | Hi again, my irc timedout |
15:45 | Guest1722 | so far, all the failing has led to trying to get a local web server running |
15:45 | so that I place links to files on local storage server as http in the 856$u | |
15:46 | trying it on personal workstation before attempting changes on test server storage area | |
15:47 | there must be an easier way to access local files via 856 field, but they I guess each successive failed attempt, draws me closer to success | |
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15:53 | caroline_crazycatlady | Guest1722: the way I usually do it is described here http://kohageek.blogspot.com/2[…]alog-records.html but not sure how that method could limit access to a file |
15:54 | Are some files going to be restricted and some files publicly accessible? Or will all files be restricted? | |
15:55 | If all files are to be restricted, I guess you could use a restricted directory in your <upload_path> | |
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15:56 | Guest1722 | hi caroline :) |
15:57 | it would be in some weird sense, automatically restricted to users on the local network | |
15:57 | so persons not on the network (that is, accessing it from some external ip), would not be able to access it | |
15:58 | unless we made some vpn tunnel or something =/ | |
15:58 | caroline_crazycatlady | is the objective to make them public? |
15:59 | Guest1722 | yes |
15:59 | so users/staff would just need to be on our network to access them | |
15:59 | if they were to try at home, it would not be able | |
16:00 | caroline_crazycatlady | ok so if you use the method decribed above, can you access them? They are put on the same server as Koha, so they would be as restricted or unrestricted as the OPAC |
16:00 | Guest1722 | would like to store the files on a pre-determined folder on our SAN, with permissions set for anyone to view |
16:00 | can the path be some other folder? or has to be the upload.pl? | |
16:01 | caroline_crazycatlady | I think the upload_path can be anything, I'd have to ask someone more versed in Apache config |
16:02 | Guest1722 | I will attempt that option caroline, thanks |
16:02 | caroline_crazycatlady | the upload.pl is the plugin you use in your MARCf framework to be able to use uploaded files in 856$u |
16:02 | Guest1722 | oh i see, thank you |
16:02 | caroline_crazycatlady | Good luck! |
16:02 | Guest1722 | i have another question about that solution first though |
16:02 | caroline_crazycatlady | ok |
16:03 | Guest1722 | it it shows having to upload the file, is it that if i populated the folder with a bunch of files, can i just determine the link address, or do i have to re-upload them |
16:03 | each time? | |
16:04 | caroline_crazycatlady | I think you would have to reupload them in order to have the hashvalue which is used in the link |
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16:06 | caroline_crazycatlady | maybe you can upload many at a time, I'm not sure |
16:08 | Guest1722 | i see |
16:09 | i found out from team, that before I joined, we have a server that is set up to do it | |
16:09 | but no documentation was done >_< | |
16:09 | i checked it for the option you gave, but its not there | |
16:09 | so somehow they got it to work without going that route lol | |
16:09 | sigh, the power of documentation needs to be emphasized | |
16:10 | caroline_crazycatlady | uh uh, no documentation sucks |
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16:13 | Guest1722 | yeah :( |
16:14 | caroline_crazycatlady | So what I'm understanding is that it worked before, but now it doesn't? |
16:16 | Guest1722 | it works with one instance of koha and does not with another |
16:17 | but their koha-conf files are pretty much the same | |
16:17 | no edits | |
16:19 | definitely will make a youtube video once this is figured out lol | |
16:20 | "how to set up 856 file link to work with local server" XD | |
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16:21 | oleonard | I was just doing a quick fix for Bug 23536 and realized it may not even be necessary. |
16:21 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23536 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Use use a template block to output patron categories |
16:22 | oleonard | Can someone give me a sanity check? |
16:22 | https://gitlab.com/snippets/1892142 | |
16:22 | I think this markup may be a relic of a time when you could just use Koha's built-in patron categories and not define your own | |
16:22 | * oleonard | may be misremembering |
16:24 | bdonnahue | hey all. I am running the koha-create --create-db |
16:24 | it is failing because the mysql user already exists | |
16:24 | I am wondering if there is a way to change this behavior? | |
16:24 | I am working on creating a repeatable install script and rerunning multiple times is not working | |
16:25 | would also be open to "wiping" the systems but i am not sure what I would need to do | |
16:29 | Guest1722 | @carolyn, attempting process now. had to take a quick break lol |
16:29 | huginn | Guest1722: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
16:30 | Guest1722 | @bdonnahue, I am not certain, sorry :( |
16:30 | huginn | Guest1722: downloading the Perl source |
16:43 | wizzyrea | oleonard, that certainly looks like a relic bit to me |
16:43 | I can't think of a time when i've seen those categories | |
16:43 | in the actual interface | |
16:44 | oleonard | Today keeps coming up with more and more ways to make me feel old |
16:46 | wizzyrea | *sigh* |
16:46 | cait | oleonard: this looks like the "types" |
16:47 | i think these are also named something like category (which makes it all the more confusing) | |
16:47 | wizzyrea | have you ever seen the memberentry page show them? |
16:47 | i don't think I have | |
16:47 | cait | hm |
16:47 | i think as subheadings in the patron category pull down | |
16:47 | and they show as abbr in the patron search i think | |
16:47 | or used to | |
16:48 | but maybe doesn't apply to this bit of code - might be a mix up of ideas or just really relic | |
16:48 | wizzyrea | that isn't what's happening here tho, if there isn't a category, show these - yeah that's what I was thinking |
16:48 | I mean they do things | |
16:48 | these types of patrons | |
16:48 | but you don't ever assign one except by proxy of a borrower category, that i'm aware of | |
16:49 | cait | yes |
16:50 | it could well be someone confused things or leftover, waht you said earlier | |
16:50 | i am not having my best thinking day today | |
16:50 | oleonard | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]77f4dfffd91483995 |
16:51 | That at least shows that I'm not misremembering that you used to be able to add by hard-coded category. I'm going to go with: it's obsolete markup | |
16:53 | caroline_crazycatlady | oleonard, wizzyrea, cait : trying to read back, are we talking about these types? https://snipboard.io/ft3zwO.jpg |
16:54 | oleonard | caroline_crazycatlady: Yes, it used to be an option to create a patron with one of those built-in "super-categories" without having to define your own patron category |
16:54 | caroline_crazycatlady | Ah! Do they still serve these meta categories? |
16:55 | cait | i think the category still influences how the form looks like - like no surname/firstname for organisations but a single field |
16:55 | thinking about other things they do | |
16:56 | caroline_crazycatlady | only childre can be guarantee? I know we have a patch that undoes this |
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17:00 | oleonard | caroline_crazycatlady: Yes, bug 12446 |
17:00 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12446 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, charles.farmer, Patch doesn't apply , Enable an adult to have a guarantor |
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17:09 | tcohen | there shouldn't be such contraint for guarantors/guarantees |
17:09 | or it should be something libraries should be able to properly configure | |
17:10 | * oleonard | thinks tcohen just volunteered to rebase that patch?? |
17:10 | tcohen | oleonard: will you SO 23517 and work on top of it in exchange? |
17:11 | oleonard | I'll do it for free :) Is it ready for signoff? (still ASSIGNED) |
17:12 | tcohen | It is :-D |
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17:24 | csmith | hey caroline, you there? |
17:25 | caroline_crazycatlady | yes |
17:26 | I have a phone call in a couple of minutes though | |
17:26 | Guest1727 | oh just wanted to give quick update |
17:26 | caroline_crazycatlady | go! what happened? |
17:26 | Guest1727 | i tried to turn my local laptop into local web server |
17:26 | and placed the link | |
17:26 | it worked | |
17:26 | :D | |
17:27 | caroline_crazycatlady | did you use the upload method or just a godd ol' regular link? |
17:27 | Guest1727 | regular link of the format "http://myworkstationIP/file_name |
17:28 | I also set opacbaseurl to "http://myworkstationIP" | |
17:28 | this is all after turning on Internet Information Services | |
17:29 | i shall make a youtube video :D | |
17:29 | caroline_crazycatlady | Cool! Spread the knowledge! |
17:29 | Guest1727 | where do i put it for koha community though? =/ |
17:30 | caroline_crazycatlady | oh right, I am admin of the youtube channel, I forgot |
17:30 | Let me check how it works | |
17:31 | Guest1727 | so i make a channel, make a video, upload it on my channel then send you link? |
17:31 | oh okay | |
17:31 | caroline_crazycatlady | yes, twhat you just described |
17:31 | Guest1727 | if webchat disconnects me again |
17:31 | oh okay, will do | |
17:31 | so the channel's name is what again xD | |
17:31 | ? | |
17:32 | caroline_crazycatlady | the Koha community channel is just Koha |
17:32 | You can send me the link to your video by email and I will add you in the Tutorials playlist | |
17:32 | caroline.cyr-la-roseinlibro.com | |
17:33 | Guest1727 | okay, thank you |
17:33 | caroline_crazycatlady | thank YOU! :) |
17:33 | Guest1727 | will have it sent to you, before the end of the week, lol you know the whole vibe XD |
17:34 | and thank you too for your help :) | |
17:36 | caroline_crazycatlady | Here's the link if you ever want to browse the videos https://www.youtube.com/channe[…]iew_as=subscriber |
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17:37 | caroline_crazycatlady | we just started using it again, davidnind worked on getting playlists set up |
17:44 | Guest1727 | cool |
17:44 | thanks :) | |
17:53 | oleonard | alexbuckley mentioned Bug 22880 in this article so I was forced to rebase it today XD https://catalyst.net.nz/news/release-koha-1905 |
17:53 | huginn | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22880 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Convert opacheader system preference to news block |
17:56 | oleonard | @later tell alexbuckley It turns out it's pretty good incentive to rebase a patch when you read it mentioned in an article :D |
17:56 | huginn | oleonard: The operation succeeded. |
17:56 | cait | :) |
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18:27 | caroline_crazycatlady | does anyone know where on the wiki it says how to separate the different elements of a patch |
18:27 | like tests in a saparate patch, etc. | |
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18:43 | tcohen | oleonard: around? |
18:44 | oleonard | For 17 minutes :) |
18:46 | tcohen | so, how are you planning to draw the holds for a biblio |
18:46 | I mean, how do you plan to fetch the data | |
18:46 | I've written (on my dev branch) GET /biblios/:biblio_id/holds | |
18:47 | and was wondering if you need to embed some more info | |
18:47 | https://snipboard.io/QPobtp.jpg | |
18:48 | I've added the _links area for related things | |
18:49 | oleonard | tcohen: I don't know yet. I haven't had a chance to test the combination of sortable + DataTables, so I'm not sure what's possible. |
18:50 | tcohen | looking at the page |
18:50 | it looks like you will need patron info? | |
18:50 | https://snipboard.io/e8ZLXk.jpg | |
18:51 | the _link{ self: /api… } thing | |
18:51 | oleonard | name, cardnumber, borrowernumber |
18:51 | tcohen | is so you can use it for |
18:51 | PUT res->_links->self priority | |
18:52 | PUT res->_links->self + '/priority' | |
18:52 | I mean | |
18:52 | we could then embed the patron object | |
18:58 | oleonard | Sorry tcohen, I'll be better able to discuss it after I try an implementation |
18:59 | * oleonard | back tomorrow |
19:08 | tcohen | @later tell oleonard ok! |
19:08 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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22:14 | jstallings | I am running version 17.11.01.000 that has suddenly stopped displaying search results in OPAC and intranet. Search (Zebra...) still runs, since I have page navigation buttons and facets, but the results do not show. |
22:15 | Any idea where I might start looking? I attempted to upgrade, since it is about that time, but got stuck on a number of (Perl!) dependencies that are not installable or "not going to be installed." | |
22:16 | wizzyrea | do you have a custom xslt? |
22:17 | ^ if you do, you should disable it | |
22:17 | caroline_crazycatlady | are all the records missing or only some? |
22:17 | jstallings | I doubt it, only because I'm the one who installed it a few years ago and I'm not sure what an xslt is. |
22:18 | caroline_crazycatlady | We ran into a similar problem with titles that had -- in them |
22:18 | for xslt, check the system preferences and make sure they are at default or nothing | |
22:19 | jstallings | All three are "default" |
22:20 | caroline_crazycatlady | can you try with nothing? just to test |
22:20 | jstallings | Sure. Checking now. |
22:22 | Nothing. I have them all cleared out, but the result is the same. | |
22:22 | wizzyrea | well, your logs might tell you something, either /var/log/koha/<instance>/opac-error.log or /var/log/koha/<instance>/plack.log |
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22:23 | wizzyrea | (i'd look in the plack one first and if nothing interesting, go to the opac-error.log) |
22:23 | sorry plack-error.log | |
22:23 | caroline_crazycatlady, you really had trouble with titles with -- in them?! | |
22:23 | that breaks my brain. | |
22:24 | recently?! | |
22:24 | caroline_crazycatlady | yes, apparently a recent version of xslt uses -- as comment |
22:25 | so as soon as a title had --, the whole record was commented | |
22:25 | jstallings | Is it a clue that I have no plack-error.log? |
22:25 | wizzyrea | https://66.media.tumblr.com/82[…]4lj5o1_r2_250.gif |
22:26 | hm, not really | |
22:26 | it just means you aren't running plack | |
22:26 | this just suddenly started? | |
22:27 | caroline_crazycatlady | I have to go, good night! |
22:27 | wizzyrea | byee |
22:28 | jstallings | Two days ago. error-log clip: https://pastebin.com/cQyY7WGf |
22:35 | wizzyrea | well, that's all very odd I haven't seen it fail in that particular way before |
22:35 | error decoding record seems kinda telling tho | |
22:36 | for funsies, have you restarted the server at all? you're not out of disk space or something like that are you? | |
22:36 | and you have good backups? | |
22:36 | plz tell me you have good backups | |
22:40 | jstallings | Ha, I have good backups! I have done all the Zebra resetting (after the issue began) b/c that's the usual search issue. I haven't restarted the server. I'm on an aws instance and haven't seen any downtime/space issues. |
22:42 | Here's a look at the intranet search if an image helps: https://pasteboard.co/IvUAC17.png | |
22:44 | If I search for a specific title, it fails to add the bibnumber to the URL, leading to "The record you requested does not exist ()." If I enter a bibnumber manually, the item page loads normally. | |
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23:06 | wizzyrea | yeah hm, I'd restart (and test) in this order: Zebra, Mysql and then |
23:06 | if neither of those thing | |
23:06 | reindex zebra | |
23:06 | and if not that | |
23:06 | then not sure exactly where to go | |
23:06 | sorry I was afk :) | |
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23:22 | jstallings | Thanks for your help! Zebra restarted, mysql restarted, Zebra reindexed, still same errors. |
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