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| 05:28 | marcelr | hi #koha |
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| 05:44 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 05:45 | cait | hi marcel! |
| 05:59 | trying to figure out how to go about testing bug 20307 | |
| 05:59 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20307 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Language overlay for authorized values |
| 05:59 | cait | but i guess just starting somewhere will be good for the half hour i have right now :) |
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| 08:37 | ashimema | mornin' 'koha |
| 08:37 | sounds scary cait.. I tested it as best I could.. seemed to work | |
| 08:38 | it's probably one to just do a few tests on.. and then throw it in and see if anytihng drops out over the next few months | |
| 08:38 | horrible as it sounds.. | |
| 08:38 | I think it's minimally intrusive as a whole | |
| 08:38 | * ashimema | is currently trying to understand DateTime.. |
| 08:38 | ashimema | always a place that scares me.. :( |
| 08:43 | Why of why is `DateTime->now()->delta_ms(DateTime->now()->add( hours => 4 ) = DateTime::Duration->new( hours => 3, minutes => 59, seconds => 15 );`! | |
| 08:44 | cait | ashimema: which one? |
| 08:44 | wahanui | which one is, like, that |
| 08:44 | cait | sorry, i might be missing the first bit of conversation |
| 08:44 | so it sounds like cait is scary again... | |
| 08:44 | ashimema | huh.. which one what? |
| 08:44 | wahanui | rumour has it which one is that |
| 08:45 | cait | (10:37:52) ashimema: sounds scary cait.. I tested it as best I could.. seemed to work |
| 08:45 | what was before that? :) | |
| 08:45 | ashimema | bug 20307 your testing |
| 08:45 | cait | and I AM NOT SCARY |
| 08:45 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20307 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Language overlay for authorized values |
| 08:45 | cait | oh |
| 08:45 | waiting for Joubu now :) | |
| 08:45 | ashimema | it was a reply to you're `trying to figure out how to go about testing bug 20307 |
| 08:45 | huginn`` | |
| 08:45 | cait | it's probably not as bad as it sounds, apart from the last ponit |
| 08:48 | ashimema | ouch.. good spot on that last one |
| 08:51 | cait | marcelr: commented on bug 23445 |
| 08:51 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23445 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Failed QA , Loan period unit in circulation rules is untranslatable causing problems one editing rules |
| 08:53 | cait | not sure i am best at explainign today |
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| 08:58 | marcelr | ok cait i wont block that |
| 08:59 | cait | sorry for so many words |
| 08:59 | marcelr | :) |
| 08:59 | cait | and thx for QA :) |
| 08:59 | marcelr++ | |
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| 09:02 | cait | marcelr: not sure how strong your date foo is.. but i've been eying bug 15260 and got very confused about it all |
| 09:02 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Option for extended loan with useDaysMode |
| 09:03 | marcelr | date foo ? |
| 09:03 | cait | your skills with date/time calculations |
| 09:03 | marcelr | i love them ;) |
| 09:03 | cait | that makes you a little scary :) |
| 09:03 | marcelr | heh |
| 09:05 | ashimema: i think you are wrong about tracklinks | |
| 09:05 | my $search_crit = { uri => $uri }; | |
| 09:06 | we are searching for uri AND bibllionumber OR uri AND itemnumber | |
| 09:06 | we are definitely not searching for just a biblionumber | |
| 09:10 | cait | hm uris can be on item and record level - need to catch both |
| 09:11 | marcelr | yeah we do |
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| 09:11 | * ashimema | double checks he read the patch right |
| 09:12 | ashimema | poop.. yuo're right.. I missed that you'd assign uri at the beggining |
| 09:13 | marcelr | i remember testing these variations |
| 09:13 | even small changes in uri etc | |
| 09:14 | it is a bit arbitrary if it could lift along as qa follow-up but reverting it on the base of wrong assumption is hard too :) | |
| 09:16 | ashimema | That's why I didn't revert it.. I asked someone else to check I'd read it right ;) |
| 09:16 | * ashimema | is running the tests again |
| 09:16 | marcelr | thx |
| 09:17 | ashimema | surprised Joubu also misread it |
| 09:17 | :( | |
| 09:17 | nobodies perfect though | |
| 09:17 | marcelr | maybe he just followed your advice |
| 09:17 | ashimema | 'tis why we have qa ;) |
| 09:19 | eythian | hi |
| 09:20 | marcelr | hi eythian |
| 09:20 | eythian | hoi marcelr |
| 09:20 | marcelr | long time |
| 09:20 | eythian | no sea: <|-(((((-< (it's supposed to be a fish skeleton) |
| 09:21 | marcelr | still working on regexes? |
| 09:21 | eythian | heh |
| 09:21 | always | |
| 09:25 | ashimema | do you understand the DB rollback issue now marcelr? |
| 09:25 | I'd be really interested if you have any better ideas | |
| 09:26 | or eythian for that matter.. any thoughts on the best way to make an integration test reset the DB to it's original state after the tests have run? | |
| 09:27 | I've gone for a quick and dirty dump at beggining then reload at the end.. (we're on different connections for the integration tests of course so can't just use DB transactions) | |
| 09:28 | marcelr | yeah i was thinking about problems with nested transactions we have in some tests; but this is a selenium like approach |
| 09:28 | ashimema | yup |
| 09:29 | I thought we'd resolved most of the nested transactions stuff.. | |
| 09:29 | tcohen gave it a good go at some point I'm sure. | |
| 09:29 | marcelr | iirc bit of a workaround ? |
| 09:29 | eythian | I've never seen a good solution. Common ways are that the test rolls back its changes as it goes (usually leaves detritus around when the test fails), or having a random element to the data for each test so that leaving bits behind doesn't matter (not always possible.) |
| 09:29 | ashimema | mm. probably |
| 09:29 | eythian | Also mocking the database so it doesn't really exist. |
| 09:29 | that's probably the best one where you can | |
| 09:29 | ashimema | yeah.. I think we've got a mix of all of those now |
| 09:30 | mocking is good but also the most tedious to impliment I find | |
| 09:30 | took me ages to mock everything I needed for he shibboleth tests | |
| 09:30 | thanks for the advice though.. always helpfull to know.. even if it's that everyone else is just in the same boat of pain | |
| 09:31 | marcelr | you know mokken, eythian ;) |
| 09:32 | eythian | met thee? |
| 09:34 | marcelr | yeah thats yet another meaning |
| 09:35 | zit niet zo te mokken met die mok | |
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| 11:23 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 23445: (RM follow-up) Add warning for unexpected lengthunit <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4b1f9e30917325573> |
| 11:23 | News from kohagit: Bug 23455: Patron card printing from Patron lists is broken <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]540aed18b2702b226> | |
| 11:23 | News from kohagit: Bug 23446: Fix display issue in serials navigation <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15f34c851e5c85836> | |
| 11:23 | News from kohagit: Bug 23445: Make loan period unit translatable fixing editing issue <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]97208ba5723922b62> | |
| 11:23 | News from kohagit: Bug 23242: Fix insert of Z3950 servers with strict SQL modes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1d5be35dc2e617840> | |
| 11:23 | News from kohagit: Bug 22830: correct for loop in value_builder/unimarc_field_4XX.pl value_builder <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ffdeb42d7875fd8aa> | |
| 11:23 | News from kohagit: Bug 22799: Avoiding batch item modification case sensitivity when entering barcodes <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2037a203df2347141> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 23324: (QA follow-up) Typo and remove unneeded use statement <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]808e1ece259c5f0b9> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 23324: (QA follow-up) Use existing NormalizeISBN function <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e9f1817685649b224> | |
| 11:33 | News from kohagit: Bug 23324: Add an ISBN normalization routine <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9ee947a3307d39b8f> | |
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| 11:38 | oleonard | Hi folks |
| 11:39 | cait | hi oleonard! |
| 11:39 | wahanui | hi oleopard |
| 11:46 | magnuse | kia ora oleonard |
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| 12:04 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #353: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/353/ |
| 12:05 | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #844: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/844/ | |
| 12:07 | ashimema | Booo |
| 12:07 | cait | boo |
| 12:16 | oleonard | 👻 |
| 12:21 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #330: UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/330/ |
| 12:22 | eythian | g'day oleopard |
| 12:34 | magnuse | trying to run a cronjob on a gitified 18.11.x i get this error: |
| 12:34 | http://paste.koha-community.org/7281 | |
| 12:34 | Can't locate Koha/Exceptions/DuplicateObject.pm | |
| 12:34 | all i try to do is "use C4::Context;" | |
| 12:37 | cait | devbox? |
| 12:37 | wahanui | devbox is probably working fine btw :) |
| 12:37 | oleonard | Hush wahanui |
| 12:38 | magnuse | nope, a gitified production instance |
| 12:39 | ashimema | feels like PERL5LIB doesnt know where lib/Koha is |
| 12:39 | or.. we have a bug where that module is missing.. | |
| 12:39 | version? | |
| 12:39 | wahanui | i guess version is very stable and translation is great |
| 12:39 | ashimema | 18.11.x.. you already said |
| 12:39 | could be a backport error | |
| 12:41 | magnuse | /home/kohaadmin/kohaclone/Koha/Exceptions.pm does mention Koha::Exceptions::DuplicateObject |
| 12:41 | but there is no DuplicateObject.pm in /home/kohaadmin/kohaclone/Koha/Exceptions/ | |
| 12:41 | wahanui | Hmm. No matches for that, magnuse. |
| 12:42 | magnuse | 18.11.04 to be precise |
| 12:43 | oops, the script seems to run ok from the command line, but not from cron | |
| 12:43 | in both cases i run the script with ...PERL5LIB=/home/kohaadmin/kohaclone/ /usr/bin/perl... | |
| 12:44 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #845: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/845/ |
| 12:45 | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #354: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/354/ | |
| 12:48 | magnuse | not running through koha-shell, but setting KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB made the error go away |
| 12:49 | huginn` | News from kohagit: Bug 23445: (RM follow-up) Missing filter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]aa33b6140137c2f01> |
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| 12:52 | ashimema | hmm.. I bet koha-gitify's last change was before koha-shell really got used widely.. bet it doesn't do much to change that at all |
| 12:52 | * ashimema | conjecture |
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| 13:07 | caroline_catlady | good morning! |
| 13:07 | oleonard | Hi caroline_catlady |
| 13:18 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 13:18 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 13:18 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D9 build #846: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/846/ |
| 13:28 | Yippee, build fixed! | |
| 13:28 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 13:28 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_U18 build #331: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/331/ |
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| 13:30 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 13:34 | koha-jenkins | Yippee, build fixed! |
| 13:34 | wahanui | Congratulations! |
| 13:34 | koha-jenkins | Project Koha_Master_D8 build #355: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/355/ |
| 13:39 | magnuse | have fun #koha |
| 13:45 | cait | thx oleonard++! |
| 13:47 | oleonard | 👍 |
| 13:48 | cait | i hope that's a nice square thing :) |
| 13:49 | oleonard | <thumbs-up.png> |
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| 14:02 | cait | :) |
| 14:16 | * oleonard | buys cait emoji support in her IRC client for Christmas |
| 14:17 | * caroline_catlady | wonders if hexchat has an emoji support plugin |
| 14:18 | cait | :) |
| 14:18 | oleonard | Chatzilla doesn't have a tool for inserting them but at least I can paste them in and see them |
| 14:18 | cait | oleonard: maybe i have to check configuration |
| 14:20 | oleonard | It should take precedence over all other tasks |
| 14:33 | cait | pidgin could - but i can't find the folder where i'd have tput it |
| 14:34 | it's not where it was before windows 10... (new os since begining of the week) | |
| 14:34 | so i guess you will have to describe for me for now... | |
| 14:41 | eythian | It's a font thing, it should just work if you have a font with that character. |
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| 14:42 | cait | oleonard: can you emoji me please? |
| 14:42 | oleonard | 🐎 |
| 14:42 | cait | hm no tworking yet |
| 14:42 | :strawberry:? | |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | no |
| 14:43 | :( | |
| 14:43 | hexchat shows them and you can paste them in | |
| 14:43 | cait | i can see yous wizzyrea |
| 14:43 | maybe iam jsu missing some now | |
| 14:43 | you couldn't see the strawberry? | |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | nope |
| 14:43 | hexchat at least doesn't translate those | |
| 14:43 | oleonard | ::invisible strawberry:: |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 14:44 | :horse: | |
| 14:44 | cait | i can see the horse |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | wot |
| 14:44 | hah | |
| 14:44 | my horse? | |
| 14:44 | or oleonard's horse | |
| 14:44 | cait | yours |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | :strawberry: |
| 14:44 | weeeird | |
| 14:44 | oleonard | :sasquatch: |
| 14:45 | cait | that prints as text |
| 14:45 | but i see it shoudl be a sasquatch | |
| 14:45 | i use pidgin there is tons of themes | |
| 14:45 | not sure which woudl be the right one | |
| 14:45 | https://developer.pidgin.im/wi[…]PartySmileyThemes | |
| 14:45 | something to investigate another time | |
| 14:45 | :) | |
| 14:45 | oleonard | (I don't think there is actually a sasquatch emoji) |
| 14:45 | cait | there shoudl be |
| 14:45 | ok, leaving for the weekend | |
| 14:46 | bye all! | |
| 14:46 | caroline_catlady | bye! |
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| 14:47 | wizzyrea | bye cait |
| 14:47 | what do you all think about this problem of items that have no itemtype | |
| 14:47 | for example the hold queue spits them out as warnings | |
| 14:47 | ashimema | hahahaha.. |
| 14:47 | I've been grappling with that issue of late | |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | the holds to pickup gives ISE when it has one |
| 14:48 | ashimema | well.. not specifically the holds queue.. but a general.. wtf.. how can an item not have any effective_itemtype |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | (it also chokes on borrowers with no expiry, or holds with no expiry, but that's a different problem) |
| 14:48 | i was thinking about how to solve this | |
| 14:48 | would it make sense | |
| 14:48 | to have a default item type | |
| 14:48 | oleonard | This issue discriminates against Highlander patrons who have no expiration date |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | say, the one you create with the onboarder |
| 14:49 | with the option to set any others later in the interface | |
| 14:49 | caroline_catlady | We have tons of warning when running rebuild_zebra for some reason |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | that's another place |
| 14:49 | it's super easy to get an item with no item type | |
| 14:49 | it isn't a required field for items | |
| 14:49 | caroline_catlady | blou got tired of it so he changed it so that if the item has no itemtype, it takes the record's itemtype |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | harder to be blank, but it can still happen |
| 14:50 | caroline_catlady | yes, but at least in the default framework, the itemtype is mandatory (942$c) |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | it's definitely harder to mess that up |
| 14:51 | but it can still happen. | |
| 14:51 | maybe fall back to the bib, and then back to a default? | |
| 14:51 | if you don't have both | |
| 14:51 | idk | |
| 14:52 | ashimema, do you have any brilliant ideas about fixing that? | |
| 14:52 | i feel like it's gone on long enough, we need to Do Something | |
| 14:52 | caroline_catlady | I like the capitalization :) |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | of course it's not the most urgent bug but it's confidence eroding when people get internal server errors |
| 14:53 | ashimema | tcohen and I discussed it yesterday |
| 14:53 | wizzyrea | awesome |
| 14:53 | caroline_catlady | I feel like if you have item-level itemtypes syspref set, the item-level itemtype should be mandatory? |
| 14:53 | ashimema | in general it does actually fallback from item level to bib level already.. but you are correct.. you can still have an empty bib level |
| 14:53 | I agree | |
| 14:53 | KotH | might anyone here know, where i could get MARC data to japanese books? I don't really want to create my own entries.... |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | that is a really good q KotH |
| 14:54 | ashimema | the best we came up with so far was a nasty warning in the about page with all the other warnings so we can shame librarians into fixing their catalogues |
| 14:54 | oleonard | caroline_catlady: Unfortunately we don't have checks on imported records to prevent items from being imported without itype |
| 14:54 | caroline_catlady | right, only when you batch import them |
| 14:56 | wizzyrea | wine.wul.waseda.ac.jp port 210 might work? |
| 14:56 | see that's why I think a default one that is always applied, user configurable, would be best | |
| 14:56 | if it doesn't have one, we automatically use the default one | |
| 14:57 | so at least everything has an effective item type | |
| 14:57 | oleonard | Makes sense to me |
| 14:57 | caroline_catlady | I like it |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | but there might be a technical reason not to do that? |
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| 15:00 | ashimema | none that I can think of |
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| 15:03 | oleonard | Is "it's hard work" a technical reason? |
| 15:04 | Bug 14862 | |
| 15:04 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14862 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Upgrade jQuery from 1.7 to 3.4.1 in OPAC |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | hehe yes |
| 15:08 | that's a technical reason | |
| 15:08 | oh boy now that, that's hard work | |
| 15:15 | KotH | YAY! there is an english form where one can apply to access the national diets library's marc data... which you can only find if you navigate through two pages of dense japanese legalese ^^' |
| 15:17 | hmm.. I can apparently apply for Z39.50 or SRU as service... which one is better? | |
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| 15:26 | oleonard | Yay, it's weekend cait! |
| 15:30 | When did we get so many templates in the OPAC | |
| 15:30 | There used to be like... five. | |
| 15:41 | ashimema | SRU generally requires a tad less setup KotH |
| 15:41 | (it sits on standard HTTP ports most of the time.. Z39.50 often doesn't) | |
| 15:41 | KotH | ashimema: thanks |
| 15:42 | for reference, if anyone else ever needs japanese marc data: https://www.ndl.go.jp/form/en/[…]_application.html | |
| 15:47 | oleonard | KotH: You grab it from them, we'll grab it from you ;) |
| 15:57 | KotH | *g* |
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| 16:55 | * cait | sends oleonard cookies |
| 16:55 | is making lasagna | |
| 16:55 | cait | i tihnk the first in 10 years - veggie |
| 16:56 | can someone make sense of bug 23466? | |
| 16:56 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23466 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , In some catalogs it does not show the "holding" |
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| 17:02 | * ashimema | is making apricot and prune chicken tagine... Mmm |
| 17:03 | ashimema | Pass on bug 23466 |
| 17:03 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23466 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , In some catalogs it does not show the "holding" |
| 17:06 | cait | ashimema: top! |
| 17:06 | i love fruity and salty :) | |
| 17:07 | are still school holidays? | |
| 17:08 | ashimema | To |
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| 18:30 | caroline_catlady | For bug 23353, can I take the opportunity to update the default framework with new labels as per www.marc21.ca or should that be a different bug entirely? |
| 18:30 | huginn` | Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23353 major, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, ASSIGNED , ACQ framework makes fr-CA web installer explode |
| 18:30 | caroline_catlady | I would put them in different patches, but in the same bug |
| 18:40 | cait | caroline_catlady: i tihnk if you them in a different bug, you#d have nicer visibility in the release notes |
| 18:41 | or we coudl update the bug title maybe | |
| 18:41 | ... laundry bbl | |
| 18:56 | re | |
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